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How are speed limits determined?

Postby wagonrunner » December 8th, 2018, 2:00 am

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The Eastern Main Road is 80km/h from the Valenica Bypass to Turure Road.
Drivers can stop to turn off / on anywhere along it. Including right turns across traffic without traffic signals.

The Rivulet road is 50km/h.
Does not have as many places to turn off.
Has Traffic signals for all right turns.

The Southern Main Road from Caroni Savannah Road to Caroni Bank Road is 50km/h
It is a dual carriageway.
It has less places to turn off than the Eastern Main Road
There are no right turns. Has roundabouts and Traffic Signals.

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby sMASH » December 8th, 2018, 6:54 am

me, i always thought was using system callled Vie Ki Vie

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby Eagle View Enterprises » December 8th, 2018, 4:51 pm

Shirvan road in Tobago is 80kph...go figure

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby 88sins » December 8th, 2018, 9:32 pm

you wanna kno how speed limits are set?
by people that have no clue wtf they doing or what it should be when taking traffic flows, road conditions & an area's population density into account

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby dux » December 9th, 2018, 12:12 am

Story posted on Nov5,2015.
Speed cameras are not for safety but to make money. UK Police admit to "CASH COW" on citizens.

GOOGLE IT.
CHECK IF IT'S A TRUE STORY. (PLEASE!)
UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS IF THE NUMBER ONE POLICE FORCE IN THE WORLD ADMITS THIS.

Answer to OP's question = It's what the "deliberately miseducated public accepts"

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby ProtonPowder » December 9th, 2018, 12:55 am

Isnt Waze owned by google? That editor looks nearly identical to the OpenStreetMap editor.

But on topic though, is a pack of assness. The south trunk road after the sando bypass interchange is 50kmph in front of sting/gulf view, but the rienzi kirton 'highway' in front of skinner park and SAPA is 80kmph.

Too arbitrary

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby ek4ever » December 10th, 2018, 10:30 am

dux wrote:Story posted on Nov5,2015.
Speed cameras are not for safety but to make money. UK Police admit to "CASH COW" on citizens.

GOOGLE IT.
CHECK IF IT'S A TRUE STORY. (PLEASE!)
UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS IF THE NUMBER ONE POLICE FORCE IN THE WORLD ADMITS THIS.

Answer to OP's question = It's what the "deliberately miseducated public accepts"


Also, stop light cameras have been shown to increase the incidence of crashes, but of course no one here looked into this

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/unint ... ents-19125

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby Slartibartfast » December 10th, 2018, 5:08 pm

That remains a mystery. I know for certain that it is not based on the design of the road; at least for the vast majority of roads. I'm tired of hearing people say our road only designed for the speed limits posted. This is completely false in almost all cases. In almost all cases there is no correlation between roadway design and speed limit in Trinidad and Tobago.

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby redmanjp » December 10th, 2018, 5:17 pm

ek4ever wrote:
dux wrote:Story posted on Nov5,2015.
Speed cameras are not for safety but to make money. UK Police admit to "CASH COW" on citizens.

GOOGLE IT.
CHECK IF IT'S A TRUE STORY. (PLEASE!)
UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS MEANS IF THE NUMBER ONE POLICE FORCE IN THE WORLD ADMITS THIS.

Answer to OP's question = It's what the "deliberately miseducated public accepts"


Also, stop light cameras have been shown to increase the incidence of crashes, but of course no one here looked into this

https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/unint ... ents-19125


if they set an adequate yellow time this shouldn't be a problem as drivers would have time to make a decision to stop or go through- though i read somewhere that the total time for yellow lights in a certain city was deliberately reduced so as to ketch drivers.

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How are speed limits determined?

Postby redmanjp » December 10th, 2018, 5:20 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:That remains a mystery. I know for certain that it is not based on the design of the road; at least for the vast majority of roads. I'm tired of hearing people say our road only designed for the speed limits posted. This is completely false in almost all cases. In almost all cases there is no correlation between roadway design and speed limit in Trinidad and Tobago.


when they were considering the increase in the highway speed limits it was said that the major highways are currently designed for 120kph, but they went with 100.

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby aaron17 » January 4th, 2019, 6:37 am

Am I dreaming? The signs on the rivulet road all saying 80kmph.

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby carluva » January 4th, 2019, 7:29 am

aaron17 wrote:Am I dreaming? The signs on the rivulet road all saying 80kmph.

The posted speed limit on the rivulet road is 50 km/h.

I did a defensive driving course with those folks in Camden, can't recall their names. In that course, the instructor told us that speed limits were set based on the three "S"... Size of road, Surface of road and Shoulder.

So, the example they used was the Valencia Stretch.... the speed limit there is 80km/h, but according to them, that is because the road is a wide road, with a good surface and a big shoulder area that affords motorists the ability to maneuver their vehicle in an incident. Compared to the Rivulet Road which is also a wide road, with a good surface but a small shoulder close to cane patches that don't give motorists a road buffer per se.

It seems like a plausible explanation, though I cannot corroborate on the legitimacy of those facts.

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby computercentral » January 4th, 2019, 7:55 am

New speed limit posted yesterday at 80 kph on rivulet and by caroni license office

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby aaron17 » January 4th, 2019, 8:09 am

They need to cut those grasses covering the shoulders.

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby carluva » January 4th, 2019, 8:57 am

computercentral wrote:New speed limit posted yesterday at 80 kph on rivulet and by caroni license office


Yes... I only just saw them this morning. So yeah speed limit on Rivulet is 80 km/h.

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby rebound » January 4th, 2019, 4:01 pm

Finally a sensible speed..

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby MG Man » January 4th, 2019, 4:11 pm

hopefully now they drop tickets like rain on anybody doing over 80 on Rivulet

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby wagonrunner » January 4th, 2019, 8:45 pm

aaron17 wrote:Am I dreaming? The signs on the rivulet road all saying 80kmph.

WHOAGAAARRRRRRRRRRDDDDDD!!!!!!!!

Any news on sando bypass, or is that still at 40km/h?

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby De Dragon » January 5th, 2019, 2:33 pm

carluva wrote:
computercentral wrote:New speed limit posted yesterday at 80 kph on rivulet and by caroni license office


Yes... I only just saw them this morning. So yeah speed limit on Rivulet is 80 km/h.

Hardly any one drove less than that anyway, hence the nickname of Couva Highway.

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby sMASH » January 5th, 2019, 7:43 pm

MG Man wrote:hopefully now they drop tickets like rain on anybody doing over 80 on Rivulet
Now it's justified.

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby rebound » January 5th, 2019, 8:27 pm

Yup 50 was ridiculous....80 is fine

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby MG Man » January 7th, 2019, 8:16 am

rebound wrote:Yup 50 was ridiculous....80 is fine


did 80 on Rivulet yesterday and was still assaulted by speeding jackasses in both directions

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby wagonrunner » January 7th, 2019, 6:31 pm

MG Man wrote:
rebound wrote:Yup 50 was ridiculous....80 is fine

did 80 on Rivulet yesterday and was still assaulted by speeding jackasses in both directions

stop advertising that you go both ways, and try driving at 80km/h instead of "doing 80". is that like "audi 500"?
you young people.

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby MG Man » January 7th, 2019, 6:49 pm

wagonrunner wrote:
MG Man wrote:
rebound wrote:Yup 50 was ridiculous....80 is fine

did 80 on Rivulet yesterday and was still assaulted by speeding jackasses in both directions

stop advertising that you go both ways, and try driving at 80km/h instead of "doing 80". is that like "audi 500"?
you young people.


So because you jam both my pedals one time, you feel issa free for all?

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby wagonrunner » January 7th, 2019, 6:51 pm

MG Man wrote:So because you jam both my pedals one time, you feel issa free for all?

it stop?
send me the voice note of you singing this chorus again.


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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby MG Man » January 7th, 2019, 6:54 pm

So much for do but don’t say :|

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby wagonrunner » January 7th, 2019, 7:08 pm

MG Man wrote:So much for do but don’t say :|

you the one saying. i confirming. lol

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Re: How are speed limits determined?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » January 15th, 2019, 9:28 am

computercentral wrote:New speed limit posted yesterday at 80 kph on rivulet and by caroni license office

Confirmed. It was needed too.

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