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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby baby hulk » May 7th, 2017, 9:04 am

That info might be accurate because i noticed the accord battery charge reminds between that range, it never discharges to under aproximately 30%

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby PariaMan » May 8th, 2017, 8:00 am

That's what I read too

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby pete » May 8th, 2017, 9:09 am

I think the manufacturers would design the charge system to keep the batteries in the optimum charge state for long life.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby drchaos » May 8th, 2017, 11:43 am

Tesla also default charges to 70% and stops unless you set the car to charge to 100%.

They also don't advise deep discharge.

This couple with liquid cooling of the battery pack has allowed Tesla to maintain more than 91% of the batteries original capacity after 4 years of ownership.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby kamakazi » May 11th, 2017, 7:17 pm

Aftermarket tuner project car



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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby nick639v2 » May 11th, 2017, 7:25 pm

Is the battery under the hood a normal car battery?? I jus hadda ask, I could hook up a lil music ???

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 11th, 2017, 7:44 pm

nick639v2 wrote:Is the battery under the hood a normal car battery?? I jus hadda ask, I could hook up a lil music ???

The Ioniq hybrid also has a regular 12v car battery in it

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby drchaos » May 11th, 2017, 7:53 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
nick639v2 wrote:Is the battery under the hood a normal car battery?? I jus hadda ask, I could hook up a lil music ???

The Ioniq hybrid also has a regular 12v car battery in it


It has a 12v but its not a regular battery. Its a modular 12v Li-ion battery and I think its located with the main battery pack.

So no regular lead acid battery under the hood.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby orgazmatron » May 11th, 2017, 8:10 pm

Currently driving the Hyundai Ioniq Hybrid, runs beautiful and a full tank gives you over 1000km. Amazing technology.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby PariaMan » May 11th, 2017, 8:34 pm

Price to fill up?

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby pugboy » May 11th, 2017, 8:36 pm

Nice, can I ask some questions,

are there cases where the engine is off whilst the motor propels the car only ?
Is there option to charge battery at home like a true ev ?
If the battery happens to be low, does the gas engine provide adequate power ?

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby drchaos » May 11th, 2017, 8:48 pm

pugboy wrote:Nice, can I ask some questions,

are there cases where the engine is off whilst the motor propels the car only ?
Is there option to charge battery at home like a true ev ?
If the battery happens to be low, does the gas engine provide adequate power ?


Test drove it at their event.

Yes, engine propels the car at low speeds but you see the engine coming on and off at times to keep the battery from draining too low.

No as the battery is charged from engine and regen breaking. You hardly even feel the regen breaking,

The power management unit does not allow the battery to go below around 30% will switch on and charge it back up to around half then cut off again.

You can charge the battery by putting the car in park and depressing the accelerator. Engines revs up and charges the battery. Otherwise its all handled by the power management system. Car seems a bit sluggish, guess im accustomed to turbo cars and don't really know the feel of the lower displacement NA engines. So don't know how it compares to elantra's or corollas.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby pugboy » May 11th, 2017, 9:01 pm

So this means that at low battery an alternator of some sort will b switched on and powered by the gas engine to charge the battery.

Wonder how long it would take to charge the battery using the standstill revving method.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby drchaos » May 11th, 2017, 9:18 pm

pugboy wrote:So this means that at low battery an alternator of some sort will b switched on and powered by the gas engine to charge the battery.

Wonder how long it would take to charge the battery using the standstill revving method.


No alternator. The dual clutch transmission has a electric motor built in and this electric motor is used as a generator and a motor. So when the engine is moving it moves the clutches and the motor/generator.

In park the clutches are disengaged and the engine and motor/generator is spinning once you depress the accelerator and thus charging the battery. Battery is also very small capacity so after like a min of reving i think I got around 15 to 20 % (just averaging tho cant be exactly sure)

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 11th, 2017, 10:09 pm

drchaos wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
nick639v2 wrote:Is the battery under the hood a normal car battery?? I jus hadda ask, I could hook up a lil music ???

The Ioniq hybrid also has a regular 12v car battery in it


It has a 12v but its not a regular battery. Its a modular 12v Li-ion battery and I think its located with the main battery pack.

So no regular lead acid battery under the hood.

no I remember seeing a regular car battery in the trunk

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 11th, 2017, 10:11 pm

pugboy wrote:Nice, can I ask some questions,

are there cases where the engine is off whilst the motor propels the car only ?
Is there option to charge battery at home like a true ev ?
If the battery happens to be low, does the gas engine provide adequate power ?

the battery is charged via regeneration.
There is no plug in the hybrid model sold locally. Only the plug-in hybrid has the plug which is currently not sold here.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby orgazmatron » May 11th, 2017, 10:14 pm

PariaMan wrote:Price to fill up?

With 61km left in the tank $140 Super Unleaded to fill right up.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby drchaos » May 11th, 2017, 10:38 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
drchaos wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
nick639v2 wrote:Is the battery under the hood a normal car battery?? I jus hadda ask, I could hook up a lil music ???

The Ioniq hybrid also has a regular 12v car battery in it


It has a 12v but its not a regular battery. Its a modular 12v Li-ion battery and I think its located with the main battery pack.

So no regular lead acid battery under the hood.

no I remember seeing a regular car battery in the trunk


Could we be getting an inferior model to the US and Europe? As everyone else reports no lead acid battery.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 11th, 2017, 11:24 pm

drchaos wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
drchaos wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
nick639v2 wrote:Is the battery under the hood a normal car battery?? I jus hadda ask, I could hook up a lil music ???

The Ioniq hybrid also has a regular 12v car battery in it


It has a 12v but its not a regular battery. Its a modular 12v Li-ion battery and I think its located with the main battery pack.

So no regular lead acid battery under the hood.

no I remember seeing a regular car battery in the trunk


Could we be getting an inferior model to the US and Europe? As everyone else reports no lead acid battery.

Unless I'm confusing it with another car in my memory. I'll have to go back to the showroom to check it.

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Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 12th, 2017, 12:27 pm

Just checked the Ioniq Hybrid at Massy and there is a regular 12v lead acid battery in the trunk. The Li-Ion hybrid electric battery to run the electric motors is under the back seat, so it takes up no space in the trunk.

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Thanks to salesman Ryan Ramskerrit at Hyundai for facilitating us to take the pics.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby eliteauto » May 12th, 2017, 1:35 pm

trunk space eh looking bad for it's size at all

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby drchaos » May 12th, 2017, 1:41 pm

Interesting so it's not the same model that the first world is getting! I wonder what else Hyundai skimped on?


Thanks for the confirmation!

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 12th, 2017, 1:45 pm

drchaos wrote:Interesting so it's not the same model that the first world is getting! I wonder what else Hyundai skimped on?


Thanks for the confirmation!

lol what?

This is the hybrid model, perhaps the plugin hybrid or the EV models are the ones without the regular car battery in the trunk.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby drchaos » May 12th, 2017, 2:01 pm

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/244 ... as-engines

And

http://www.hybridcars.com/2017-hyundai- ... rst-drive/

Both these websites and numerous online forums confirm that the model in the first world (hybrid) gets a 12V li-ion battery that is housed with the larger li-ion battery pack. First world markets also report that they get standard on all models the larger infotainment system with android auto and car play. Leaving me to wonder what else is dumbed down for us here in T&T.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby Kronik » May 13th, 2017, 6:35 am

It not that surprising. Look at the optima, it comes with a engine that you not seeing anywhere else in the world markets and some features that other markets don't have. Maybe Hyundai local decided to go lead acid in the event the battery goes it can be easily replaced (this is later down the line after warranty done), cuz you not gonna get a replacement li-ion battery, and if the firm alone was selling it and bussing price, ppl would complain about that.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby Darky » May 13th, 2017, 7:50 am

can someone tell me if these hybrid vehicles are VAT and Duty free when importing . ??
i keeping hearing but i want some source of valid verification.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby Remark » May 13th, 2017, 8:29 am

Darky wrote:can someone tell me if these hybrid vehicles are VAT and Duty free when importing . ??
i keeping hearing but i want some source of valid verification.

Confirmed ... no vat, duty or mvt. You just pay the cif value, customs cleaeance and registration.

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby eliteauto » May 13th, 2017, 8:41 am

^^^ provided the vehicle engine size is 2,l and under and I think no older than 3 years

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby pugboy » May 13th, 2017, 10:07 am

so the "market" price that the dealers are keeping these cars at is around $200k ?

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Re: Importing a hybrid vehicle in Trinidad

Postby Darky » May 13th, 2017, 9:41 pm

eliteauto wrote:^^^ provided the vehicle engine size is 2,l and under and I think no older than 3 years


So i asked SBT japan since have a dealer down here and they said yes we still have to pay the VAT and Duty and MVT however i know last year sometime on papers ,,i saw we didnt have to pay.
calling Ministry is like a waste as well cause them never know anything

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