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Deportees and Illegal immigrants

Postby mark2.0 » November 15th, 2016, 7:32 am

what can we do to accommodate the deportees that will be arriving soon...

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Postby vaiostation69 » November 15th, 2016, 7:56 am

Provide food cards and HDC housing...

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Re: Deportees and Illegal immigrants

Postby pugboy » November 15th, 2016, 8:03 am

i dont understand the issue,
arent illegal immigrants deported after serving time anyways ?

it is usually a few a month according to a bwia padna

what is different now that trump is in power ?
is he gonna deport immediately instead of making them serve time ?

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Postby pj15 » November 15th, 2016, 8:42 am

pugboy wrote:i dont understand the issue,
arent illegal immigrants deported after serving time anyways ?

it is usually a few a month according to a bwia padna

what is different now that trump is in power ?
is he gonna deport immediately instead of making them serve time ?



Exactly! The Obama administration deported over 2.5 million illegal immigrants so far ( both criminal and non criminal) - more than all other administrations combined since the beginning of the 20th century. So I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.....
Some interesting stats here:

https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics#wcm-survey-target-id

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Re: Deportees and Illegal immigrants

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » November 15th, 2016, 8:47 am

^ the difference is that Trump makes a media circus out of it.

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Postby *$kїđž!™ » November 15th, 2016, 9:00 am

This would contribute to our unemployment rate and already high crime rate.

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Postby nervewrecker » November 15th, 2016, 10:31 am

Penal and debe baytees gears up to get husband's. Men saw Murcia, they have accents, they saw snow. They will be mined and housed.

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Postby Cooloh » November 15th, 2016, 10:46 am

Illegal immigrants have already been making their way back to Trinidad from the United States on chartered planes and, given President-elect Donald Trump's immigration policy, the rate will increase and this country is not ready for this.

This was stated yesterday by head of Vision on Mission, Wayne Chance, who added that, as it stands now, the needs to house and rehabilitate deportees are not being met and adding more to the system will result in more pressures.

“We already have a high number of people being deported. There are chartered flights coming here every three to four months. I would have had to make several trips to the airport to pick up persons, sometimes six, nine, ten, up to 15,” he said.

Vision on Mission is a non-governmental organisation (NGO) set up since 1995 and incorporated in August 2001 under the Trinidad and Tobago Companies (1995) Act.

Vision on Mission is non-denominational with responsibility for the reintegration and rehabilitation of deportees/returning nationals, prisoners, ex-prisoners, delinquent youth and socially displaced persons.

Chance said that the Vision on Mission facility in St Clair has a capacity for 30 persons. He said, for this year, 32 “direct deportees” came straight from the airport to the programme.

He said there were some 62 walk-in deportees for the year. Chance said there are programme cycles from three to six months to one year to assist the deportees with acquiring skills and knowledge in order to reintegrate into society.

Deportees homeless

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Chance said two weeks ago, six persons were deported, three for murder and another three for aggravated felonies.

He said two of these persons spent 35 and 38 years in the US prison system before being deported.

He said he anticipates that there will be an “uncontrollable demand for space” as many deportees are abandoned by their families when they return to Trinidad.

He noted a number of deportees are homeless on the streets.

Chance said the person who left Trinidad at the age of eight and then returns home as a deportee at ages 34, 50 and older is not the same person their family would remember them as.

He said a lot of these deportees suffer with mental illness, bi-polar disorders and alcoholism, while some are HIV-positive and possess no skills to allow them to be easily reintegrated into society. He said a number of serious social ills develop, posing a threat to this small island.

“Presently the need that we have is not properly met, if that practice continues, we are definitely not ready,” said Chance.

He added that if this issue is not taken seriously then it will impact on the crime situation.

Chance said Vision on Mission is responsible for every aspect of the deportees' care, from providing psychological help, training, accommodation, food, etc.

He lamented that there are some people at the facility who are over the age of 60, which was challenging. Chance said there is another facility at Riverside Plaza, Port of Spain, which is also used to house deportees.

He said Vision on Mission receives a government subvention of $1.3 million annually but this was insufficient to cover all expenses.

Chance said the Government can consider utilising the Vision on Mission facility in Wallerfield, which can house 100 people as a measure to deal with mass deportations from the US.

He said the NGO does not have the money to meet recurrent expenditure to keep this facility open and functioning.

Chance said there is also another facility in Claxton Bay, which will be completed in December this year and can house some 65 female deportees.

He said the facility at Wallerfield was constructed on State lands which were leased for 100 years and the one at Claxton Bay is on private lands.

Chance said the facilities were constructed with monies from grants and from assistance from the corporate and private sector.

He said the majority of the deportees return home with convictions for serious crimes such as murder, aggravated assault, drug trafficking and gang-related crimes.

However, Chance pointed out that when they come home many of them embrace the Vision on Mission programme as they see it as a new chapter in their life.

He said their convictions are not registered here and therefore they can obtain a clean certificate of police clearance, which can help them reintegrate into society and the job market.


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Re: Deportees and Illegal immigrants

Postby MaxPower » November 15th, 2016, 11:59 am

Execute them...let others know to get their sheit in order

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Postby Spitfir3 » November 15th, 2016, 1:07 pm

standing at the airport with my "Welcome Back" sign as we speak

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Re: Deportees and Illegal immigrants

Postby SMc » November 15th, 2016, 1:22 pm

How many people we expecting on an annual basis...one hundred, one thousand, tens of thousands?

If people complaining about a couple 100 deportees, immigrants,asylum seekers, baddies (however you want to see them)per year then so be it... some countries receive that amount on a daily basis and still cope with it I dunno why we hadda cry foul every-time something happens that may not please all

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Postby Turbo » November 15th, 2016, 2:17 pm

What about the ones residing here?



Are we not a patriotic country as well? :|

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 15th, 2016, 2:22 pm

Half them PoS vagrants have American accents. This is their future when they come back here.

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Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » November 15th, 2016, 4:16 pm

Isn't it funny how Obama has deported nearly the same amount of immigrants that Trump plans on doing and you never hear a word about it?

Trump was right, the Media, these are the most dishonest people.

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Re: Deportees and Illegal immigrants

Postby Cooloh » November 15th, 2016, 4:26 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:Isn't it funny how Obama has deported nearly the same amount of immigrants that Trump plans on doing and you never hear a word about it?

Trump was right, the Media, these are the most dishonest people.

Their aim is to increase viewership. End of story. I'm not saying I'm for or against Trump, but if he sneeze too loud, it will make news. The name Trump is a very hot seller at the moment.

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Postby desifemlove » November 16th, 2016, 6:36 am

not all illegal immigrants are criminals or convicts. a man overstaying his green card working picking fruit may never have gone to jail, but this is what Trump would pick up. or next person working under the table doing construction or as a waiter or shop assistant.

i don't see the issue to be honest, since Trinidad authorities too slack to stop people hiring them, or absorbing them.

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Re: Deportees and Illegal immigrants

Postby DTAC » November 16th, 2016, 9:30 am

Cooloh wrote:Chance said the person who left Trinidad at the age of eight and then returns home as a deportee at ages 34, 50 and older is not the same person their family would remember them as.


As a response to families not taking them in....

Cooloh wrote:He said a lot of these deportees suffer with mental illness, bi-polar disorders and alcoholism, while some are HIV-positive and possess no skills to allow them to be easily reintegrated into society. He said a number of serious social ills develop, posing a threat to this small island.

Haven't you just contradicted yourself massively? What mad person going to take in a virtual stranger who just happens to share a bloodline, who's been deported for some crime or other to come and sit down in their house???

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Re: Deportees and Illegal immigrants

Postby Cooloh » November 16th, 2016, 9:36 am

DTAC wrote:
Cooloh wrote:Chance said the person who left Trinidad at the age of eight and then returns home as a deportee at ages 34, 50 and older is not the same person their family would remember them as.


As a response to families not taking them in....

Cooloh wrote:He said a lot of these deportees suffer with mental illness, bi-polar disorders and alcoholism, while some are HIV-positive and possess no skills to allow them to be easily reintegrated into society. He said a number of serious social ills develop, posing a threat to this small island.

Haven't you just contradicted yourself massively? What mad person going to take in a virtual stranger who just happens to share a bloodline, who's been deported for some crime or other to come and sit down in their house???

I didn't write the story pal... Just thought it would be good reading concerning the topic

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Re: Deportees and Illegal immigrants

Postby S_2NR » November 21st, 2016, 1:00 am

nervewrecker wrote:Penal and debe baytees gears up to get husband's. Men saw Murcia, they have accents, they saw snow. They will be mined and housed.


:lol: :lol:
seeing cold ass snow is an accomplishment now?

i wouldnt mind a good looking, roti making beti to put in house tho.

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Re: Deportees and Illegal immigrants

Postby coltspeed » November 21st, 2016, 7:18 am

Well i guess the first batch has arrived. Got one staying at my neighbors, he still believes he is abroad and that he would show us how to "do it real" down here.
Says he going to settle in for a few months and then attempt to look for a job. He just needs to get a 50something inch tv and a ps4 for the meanwhile.

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Postby nervewrecker » November 21st, 2016, 8:12 am

S_2NR wrote:
nervewrecker wrote:Penal and debe baytees gears up to get husband's. Men saw Murcia, they have accents, they saw snow. They will be mined and housed.



seeing cold ass snow is an accomplishment now?

i wouldnt mind a good looking, roti making beti to put in house tho.

I'd tell you where to get them but you might not like it.

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