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Re: No more credit card payment at gas stations.... Cash only!

Postby Redman » November 2nd, 2016, 9:32 pm

tr1ad wrote:
ADONI wrote:We think the government reason to remove subsidy bad. However, if the Petroleum Association was given the chance to set their own rates on fuel, we would have to go back to donkey and bison carts.


don't understand what is the issue with the PA now, linx and credit card has been accepted for quite some time now


The PA has been lobbying for a solution to the fact that the increases to the BL and GF...push some of the stations into a loss making scenario.

At least 8 years at this point.

It's a regulated industry.

There are limitations as to what the dealers can do.

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Postby sMASH » November 2nd, 2016, 11:27 pm

*pays for most things with cash, cause screw bank fees*

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Postby ADONI » November 3rd, 2016, 9:34 am

Redman wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
ADONI wrote:We think the government reason to remove subsidy bad. However, if the Petroleum Association was given the chance to set their own rates on fuel, we would have to go back to donkey and bison carts.


don't understand what is the issue with the PA now, linx and credit card has been accepted for quite some time now


The PA has been lobbying for a solution to the fact that the increases to the BL and GF...push some of the stations into a loss making scenario.

At least 8 years at this point.

It's a regulated industry.

There are limitations as to what the dealers can do.


Yup, PA lobbying for removal of regulations, so they would be the ones controlling fuel prices where they go dig out people eye, making Imbutt fuel increases look like nothing.

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Postby bluesclues » November 3rd, 2016, 11:36 am

ADONI wrote:
Redman wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
ADONI wrote:We think the government reason to remove subsidy bad. However, if the Petroleum Association was given the chance to set their own rates on fuel, we would have to go back to donkey and bison carts.


don't understand what is the issue with the PA now, linx and credit card has been accepted for quite some time now


The PA has been lobbying for a solution to the fact that the increases to the BL and GF...push some of the stations into a loss making scenario.

At least 8 years at this point.

It's a regulated industry.

There are limitations as to what the dealers can do.


Yup, PA lobbying for removal of regulations, so they would be the ones controlling fuel prices where they go dig out people eye, making Imbutt fuel increases look like nothing.



Trinidad, the only country that can own a pitch lake and have such horrible roads. So why not, the only country that produces oil and gas that have locals paying more than ppl in countries that import from us. It wont work tho. We in bubble territory here. Raising prices will hurt government revenues more in the long term. Setting up themselves to permanently lose market share.

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Postby Redman » November 3rd, 2016, 2:57 pm

ADONI wrote:
Redman wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
ADONI wrote:We think the government reason to remove subsidy bad. However, if the Petroleum Association was given the chance to set their own rates on fuel, we would have to go back to donkey and bison carts.


don't understand what is the issue with the PA now, linx and credit card has been accepted for quite some time now


The PA has been lobbying for a solution to the fact that the increases to the BL and GF...push some of the stations into a loss making scenario.

At least 8 years at this point.

It's a regulated industry.

There are limitations as to what the dealers can do.


Yup, PA lobbying for removal of regulations, so they would be the ones controlling fuel prices where they go dig out people eye, making Imbutt fuel increases look like nothing.



You really are poorly informed.

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Postby Redman » November 3rd, 2016, 3:01 pm

bluesclues wrote:
ADONI wrote:
Redman wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
ADONI wrote:We think the government reason to remove subsidy bad. However, if the Petroleum Association was given the chance to set their own rates on fuel, we would have to go back to donkey and bison carts.


don't understand what is the issue with the PA now, linx and credit card has been accepted for quite some time now


The PA has been lobbying for a solution to the fact that the increases to the BL and GF...push some of the stations into a loss making scenario.

At least 8 years at this point.

It's a regulated industry.

There are limitations as to what the dealers can do.


Yup, PA lobbying for removal of regulations, so they would be the ones controlling fuel prices where they go dig out people eye, making Imbutt fuel increases look like nothing.



Trinidad, the only country that can own a pitch lake and have such horrible roads. So why not, the only country that produces oil and gas that have locals paying more than ppl in countries that import from us. It wont work tho. We in bubble territory here. Raising prices will hurt government revenues more in the long term. Setting up themselves to permanently lose market share.


Explain that ...

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 3rd, 2016, 3:21 pm

Norway produces lots of oil and gas and their locals pay almost the most expensive rates int he world for gasoline.....jus saying ah Blues

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Postby Numb3r4 » November 4th, 2016, 1:46 am

Norway has a highly educated population that understands the principles and finer points of progressive long term planning and the value of deferred gratification.

The same can't be said for our population, not to say we shouldn't be aspiring to such ideals but.....

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Postby Rudman » November 4th, 2016, 7:19 am

^Is there a like button for this comment?

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Postby nervewrecker » November 4th, 2016, 8:18 am

tr1ad wrote:
desifemlove wrote:Most likely ah Hindu man who did this at the Petroleum Association. only some move (like most of them) to push some conspiratorial Hindu agenda onto the country. His agenda look like it crumbling since the government and Unipet have seen through this already.


this really slipped me, while personal opinions are welcomed.... racist ones are not.

take a lil vacation from the forums to reflect

Bless you kind sir, bless your soul.

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Postby nervewrecker » November 4th, 2016, 8:20 am

To me I see like a guy pay with a card for fuel at the unipet station in fyzabad.
Like ramamtally wise up and realise it have no other gas stations around here. If he take payment via card all the sales are his. At least I hope so.

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Postby Dizzy28 » November 4th, 2016, 8:29 am

nervewrecker wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
desifemlove wrote:Most likely ah Hindu man who did this at the Petroleum Association. only some move (like most of them) to push some conspiratorial Hindu agenda onto the country. His agenda look like it crumbling since the government and Unipet have seen through this already.


this really slipped me, while personal opinions are welcomed.... racist ones are not.

take a lil vacation from the forums to reflect

Bless you kind sir, bless your soul.

When Desi is back he will accuse Triad of being a brahmin.

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Postby 4a70 » November 4th, 2016, 8:34 am

Marabella unipet taking cards again... attendant said they lost a lota sales and the owner realise was a bad move so firetruck the pa.

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Postby pete » November 4th, 2016, 8:38 am

The market solved.

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Postby bluesclues » November 4th, 2016, 8:50 am

Redman wrote:
bluesclues wrote:
ADONI wrote:
Redman wrote:
tr1ad wrote:
ADONI wrote:We think the government reason to remove subsidy bad. However, if the Petroleum Association was given the chance to set their own rates on fuel, we would have to go back to donkey and bison carts.


don't understand what is the issue with the PA now, linx and credit card has been accepted for quite some time now


The PA has been lobbying for a solution to the fact that the increases to the BL and GF...push some of the stations into a loss making scenario.

At least 8 years at this point.

It's a regulated industry.

There are limitations as to what the dealers can do.


Yup, PA lobbying for removal of regulations, so they would be the ones controlling fuel prices where they go dig out people eye, making Imbutt fuel increases look like nothing.



Trinidad, the only country that can own a pitch lake and have such horrible roads. So why not, the only country that produces oil and gas that have locals paying more than ppl in countries that import from us. It wont work tho. We in bubble territory here. Raising prices will hurt government revenues more in the long term. Setting up themselves to permanently lose market share.


Explain that ...



Dont worry i will explain it. By which time it will be self explanatory.

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Postby Redman » November 4th, 2016, 10:53 am

So you can only explain something that already explained.

kk

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Postby Slartibartfast » November 4th, 2016, 11:11 am

He also claimed to be able to predict past events so...

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Postby sleepertercel » November 4th, 2016, 11:33 am

How about using high fuel prices as the impetus to switch to more sustainable fuels, or modes of transportation?

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Postby sMASH » November 4th, 2016, 11:58 am

Well, when trying to steer people into other alternatives, the common sense approach is to make the alternatives readily available.
But this is the same set of people who wanted to have a sugar tax, not to guide public health as its intention in other countries, but as a source of revenue... with the health guidance as a side effect.

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Postby Redman » November 4th, 2016, 12:29 pm

sleepertercel wrote:How about using high fuel prices as the impetus to switch to more sustainable fuels, or modes of transportation?



The supply chain needs to be in place.
then incentives to switch

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Postby silent_riot » November 4th, 2016, 3:08 pm

LOL @ loss of sales.
I thought CC only accounted for 12-15% of all sales.
Good to see good sense prevail.

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Postby adnj » November 5th, 2016, 9:06 pm

sleepertercel wrote:How about using high fuel prices as the impetus to switch to more sustainable fuels, or modes of transportation?

Phased elimination of the subsidies will likely lead to the switch to newer, smaller, safer, more energy efficient vehicles. It may also lead to switching from diesel to CNG heavy transport vehicles. The best way to force a switch to public transportation is to limit the availability of public parking and raise the cost. (Think parking enforcement - fines and wreckers)
sMASH wrote:Well, when trying to steer people into other alternatives, the common sense approach is to make the alternatives readily available.
But this is the same set of people who wanted to have a sugar tax, not to guide public health as its intention in other countries, but as a source of revenue... with the health guidance as a side effect.
I believe that you're right but it does go both ways:

"Sin taxes" have successfully been used alongside public education for many years in many places. Taxes on tobacco to offset the cost of public health care, vehicle taxes to offset road repair, even high hunting permit costs to offset the cost of conservation.

The United States paid for the debt caused by the Revolutionary War by taxing rum. I don't believe that they were trying to cut down on alcoholism.

Redman wrote:The supply chain needs to be in place.
then incentives to switch


Incentivize the early adopters and then use the demand to help provide funding and prove out the infrastructure. This is what happened with radio, television, cell phones, diesel engine trucks, ethanol flex fuel vehicles, and electric vehicles when first introduced. All of those were sold below cost early on.

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Postby dude2014 » November 5th, 2016, 10:18 pm

sleepertercel wrote:How about using high fuel prices as the impetus to switch to more sustainable fuels, or modes of transportation?


I agree to switching to more sustainable fuels. Universtity of TT has a fully electric powered bus on the road.
Also those expensive lighting towers on grounds can be outfitted with a hybrid solar/wind generators to conserve our consumption of fossil fuels.

PTSC has some CNG, Other State agency has a few. Destroy your deisel Maxi, we give you a CNG one, at a cost, of course (check SWMCOL). It is not enough.

What I am more concerned about is the value of the reduction in the fuel subsidy. It was reputed to be around $5B. What is it now? Critical is what the Government is doing with it. They will say there is a budget deficit so there is really no money to save/spend.

Can someone help with this?

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Postby bluesclues » November 5th, 2016, 11:12 pm

Fssil fuel conservation means lower revenues for trinidad.

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Postby dude2014 » November 5th, 2016, 11:22 pm

Should we use less, will we have more to export? Hence more revenues.
Still need some help on the figures with the gas subsidy

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Postby adnj » November 6th, 2016, 2:56 am

The shift to CNG is because the equivalent cost of CNG is usually less than half that of gasoline /diesel and is currently about the same as gasoline /diesel while crude prices are low.

Conservation also means longer lasting fuel reserves, decreased air pollution, increased GDP, and decreased inflation.
bluesclues wrote:Fssil fuel conservation means lower revenues for trinidad.

dude2014 wrote:Should we use less, will we have more to export? Hence more revenues.

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Postby Redman » November 6th, 2016, 5:33 am

dude2014 wrote:Should we use less, will we have more to export? Hence more revenues.
Still need some help on the figures with the gas subsidy


No you don't need help.
You have it there...there is demand for all fuels produced.

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Postby dude2014 » November 9th, 2016, 10:46 am

Reddest, Thanks.

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Postby simplicity16 » November 9th, 2016, 11:00 am

Yesterday Medford Chaguanas started back taking Credit Cards at the pump.

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