Gunman kills 50 in an Orlando nightclub...

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Gunman kills 50 in a Orlando night club b.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Orlando, Florida (CNN)A gay nightclub here was the scene early Sunday of the worst terror attack in U.S. history since 9/11.

* 50 people were killed inside the Pulse club and at least 53 people were injured, police say.
* The gunman was Omar Mateen of Ft. Pierce, Florida, a law enforcement source told CNN.
* Orlando police shot and killed Mateen
* Mateen called 911 around the time of the attack to pledge allegiance to ISIS and mention the Boston bombers, according to a U.S. official.
"It appears he was organized and well-prepared," Orlando Police Chief John Mina said early Sunday. The shooter had an assault-type weapon, a handgun and "some type of (other) device on him."

There has been no claim of responsibility for the attack on jihadi forums, but ISIS sympathizers have reacted by praising the attack on pro-Islamic State forums.
Officials, aided by the FBI, warned that a lengthy investigation was ahead given the number of victims and the scope of the violence.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

http://heavy.com/news/2016/06/omar-mate ... terrorism/

Omar Mir Seddique Mateen has been named as the gunman who killed 50 people and wounded 53 others at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, CBS News reports.

The gunman was later killed by police after taking hostages at the LGBT club. The shooting, carried out with an AR-15 rifle and a handgun, is the deadliest in American history.

He pledged allegiance to ISIS, the so-called Islamic State, before the shooting, according to Congressman Adam Schiff, D-California.

Mateen, 29, is a U.S. citizen of Afghani descent from Port St. Lucie, Florida, according to CBS News. He has ties to radical Islamic ideology, CBS reports. His name was confirmed by Congressman Alan Grayson at a press conference.

Port St. Lucie is about 125 miles away from Orlando.

Police have not yet said why Mateen attacked the Pulse club. His father told MSNBC that the shooting was not about his son’s religion, but that his son became very angry after seeing two men kissing in Miami months ago. He said “we are apologizing for the whole incident.”

“We are saying we are apologizing for the whole incident. We weren’t aware of any action he is taking. We are in shock like the whole country,” Mir Seddique, his father, told NBC News.

Mateen worked as a security guard and drove to Orlando to carry out the attack, CNN’s Evan Perez reports.

Mateen has no known criminal history, according to CBS News.

But The Daily Beast, citing a senior law enforcement source, said Mateen was a person of interest in law enforcement investigations in 2013 and 2014. The news website reports the FBI opened an investigation into Mateen at some point, but closed it “when it produced nothing that appeared to warrant further investigation.”

[SMc]

Horrible thing to happen, them people never had a chance.

Anyway, ill wait for jaglal et al to appear and voice their approval to what the gunman did & reevaluate my thoughts then.

[Les Bain]

So going by the father story, the gunman was so upset by the sight of 2 men kissing that he shot up a gay nightclub in allegiance to ISIS?

NSA better take the entire family in for eternal questioning.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

the gunman was so upset by the sight of 2 men kissing that he shot up a gay nightclub

they should have put him in a mental institution right then and there

[baigan]

Sad :/
People are just having fun in a club and suffer such a fate ? :/ sad
Rip to those who passed

[Ronaldo95163]

my hate for gays strong as well but waaaays this man on another level

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

my hate for gays strong as well but waaaays this man on another level

Man gone Super Contra on dem people oui.

[Redman]

Another good case to modernize the fire arm laws in TnT.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Another good case to modernize the fire arm laws in TnT.

In what way?

[shogun]

Is this the worst mass shooting in America's history, so far?

RIP to the victims.

[Redman]

@Allergic
Well in the context of the Orlando shooting....the only hope is to have some one kill the shooter ASAP.

No Police force in the world can react fact enough to stop what happened last night.
If one of the patrons was carrying and shot the guy the result would be different.

If you were in the crowd last night would prefer to have a fire arm or not??

So a logical sensible approach is what we need...not reactive emotive hyperbolic dispositions

[Morpheus]

Hellz no. Not ignorant Trinis sir

[shogun]

Stiffer regulations on assault rifles is what the US needs.

[Redman]

Hellz no. Not ignorant Trinis sir

Ok
Explain why....and using actual numbers show what the history here in TnT is of crimes being committed with legally issued fire arms.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

@Allergic
Well in the context of the Orlando shooting....the only hope is to have some one kill the shooter ASAP.

No Police force in the world can react fact enough to stop what happened last night.
If one of the patrons was carrying and shot the guy the result would be different.

If you were in the crowd last night would prefer to have a fire arm or not??

So a logical sensible approach is what we need...not reactive emotive hyperbolic dispositions

But over there anyone can own a gun...and yet it didn't stop what happened last night. I don't see the changing of the laws to make it easier for persons to hold a weapon easing anything up.

[Morpheus]

Hellz no. Not ignorant Trinis sir

Ok
Explain why....and using actual numbers show what the history here in TnT is of crimes being committed with legally issued fire arms.

Me eh going into all that. I just pulled that outta my arse.....

[supremacy_007]

@Allergic
Well in the context of the Orlando shooting....the only hope is to have some one kill the shooter ASAP.

No Police force in the world can react fact enough to stop what happened last night.
If one of the patrons was carrying and shot the guy the result would be different.

If you were in the crowd last night would prefer to have a fire arm or not??

So a logical sensible approach is what we need...not reactive emotive hyperbolic dispositions

bro while i understand where yuh coming from, you could imagine a club full of drunk trinis with fire arms and this happen? casualty rate may be higher.... further to that it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon in fl under the influence, and most club goers drink...

what has to happen is at an organisational level, companies, especially those with public usage ie malls, restaurants, cinemas, clubs, need to beef up there security to more reliably trained personnel, and include armed terrorists attacks to their risk mitigation and implement the phoqing additional security measures, which even after the batman cinema shooting, there is no kinda screening or armed security presence in most US cinemas... so this sheit going to keep happening....

[Les Bain]

When I saw the news alert this morning I thought it was related to the Christina Grimmie shooting, which prompted them to declare the state of emergency.

Fag haters shouldn't rejoice about this; those ISIS degenerates don't hold anyone's life in regard.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

@Allergic
Well in the context of the Orlando shooting....the only hope is to have some one kill the shooter ASAP.

No Police force in the world can react fact enough to stop what happened last night.
If one of the patrons was carrying and shot the guy the result would be different.

If you were in the crowd last night would prefer to have a fire arm or not??

So a logical sensible approach is what we need...not reactive emotive hyperbolic dispositions

in the 2012 US elections, of voters who identified as LGBT, 77% of them voted for the Democrats and against the NRA and gun ownership. Only 5% of LGBT voted republican, the biggest supporters of the NRA and gun ownership. Most people who identify as LGBT don't want to walk around the place with guns.

There were 64 school shootings in the US in 2015 alone. How'd gun ownership work there? Arm the teachers? You want armed teachers or guards with your kids?

Some 13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015, according to the Gun Violence Archive, and 26,819 people were injured [those figures exclude suicide]

Source: BBC

We have bandits in Trinidad and instead of dealing with the problem, we as citizens spend hundreds of millions each year on burglar proofing and inconveniencing oursleves. Criminals are the problem, not our laws.

The logical sensible approach is to deal with the root cause.
IMO wanting to arm yourself to shoot back is a reactive emotive hyperbolic disposition.

[meccalli]

If Trinis are too volatile to own arms, I suggest we also disarm the police force. *Dealing* with the root cause that is criminals can be done with guns or rope. Traditionally it has been done so, when police draw weapons in a hostile environment or soldiers enter combat, they are immersed in an environment surrounded by elements seeking their lives in a conflict of interest. When an entire nation is subject to this environment with a crippled judicial and enforcement system that encourages the criminal element to proceed unpunished, it would be foolish to not see the necessity for any means of self preservation and elimination of such threats.



http://crimeresearch.org/2013/12/murder ... -gun-bans/

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

What happened in the UK in 2003 to cause that decline after a rapid increase?

[meccalli]

"The homicide and firearm homicide rates only began falling when there was a large increase in the number of police officers during 2003 and 2004. Despite the huge increase in the number of police, the murder rate still remained slightly higher than the immediate pre-ban rate."

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

So enforcement and directly dealing with the problem worked as long as they enforced it

[Miktay]

No solution iz perfect but am with the Israelis on thiz one...

[hong kong phooey]

Horrible thing to happen, them people never had a chance.

Anyway, ill wait for jaglal et al to appear and voice their approval to what the gunman did & reevaluate my thoughts then.

Condolences to the family of the victims

How did the people did not have a chance . i know it difficult to say or do but if a few of them had fought back the numbers might have been different ( speculation on my path)
This guy would had to of stop and reload a few times to do so much damage.
this is not a simple robbery where they held he came in and held them up he open fire people.

[bluesclues]

Horrible thing to happen, them people never had a chance.

Anyway, ill wait for jaglal et al to appear and voice their approval to what the gunman did & reevaluate my thoughts then.

I don't think they had to state that the nightclub was filled with gay ppl. One gunman and 1000 ppl and they all run away like bytches instead of pounce and dismantle that fker. Speaks for itself.

[shogun]

^^You NEED a clue

Horrible thing to happen, them people never had a chance.

Anyway, ill wait for jaglal et al to appear and voice their approval to what the gunman did & reevaluate my thoughts then.

Condolences to the family of the victims

How did the people did not have a chance . i know it difficult to say or do but if a few of them had fought back the numbers might have been different ( speculation on my path)
This guy would had to of stop and reload a few times to do so much damage
this is not a simple robbery where they held he came in and held them up he open fire people.

Not when the assailant has an assault rifle with a high capacity magazine. A trained person might have taken out many more partygoers. Real talk

[Wolfstein]

Just a shame