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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby Picasso » May 7th, 2016, 2:44 pm

All this Kyack talk.... Just buy a jammer and done!!I already ordered mine.. Will be doing some testing in a couple days when it's here.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby kamakazi » May 7th, 2016, 3:02 pm

Please let me know how it worked when you get charged for possession of said device

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby drchaos » May 7th, 2016, 3:20 pm

Picasso wrote:All this Kyack talk.... Just buy a jammer and done!!I already ordered mine.. Will be doing some testing in a couple days when it's here.


Check the spec's of the Trucam ... It can detect when its being jammed. So you wont only get a ticket for speeding you will be charged for the jammer as well.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby wagonrunner » May 7th, 2016, 3:22 pm

leff d kyacker nah.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby redmanjp » May 7th, 2016, 4:39 pm

Picasso wrote:All this Kyack talk.... Just buy a jammer and done!!I already ordered mine.. Will be doing some testing in a couple days when it's here.


Sure. The fine for doing this is only 10 times the fine for speeding - assuming customs don't seize it first

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby EmilioA » May 7th, 2016, 5:42 pm

ingalook wrote:
The slowing down and speeding up is reduced, hence there is a flow - if you will get a ticket @81km you won't overtake even if someone is doing 70km on the left lane because during the act of overtaking you will cross 80 and get a ticket.

Coming back to the carrying capacity of the road, if your journey would take you about 30 mins and now it takes 45 mins CERTAINLY there is a reduction in the amount of vehicles that can use the highway in any given time period.


This would be true if everyone was moving at the same speed previously. Say everyone was moving at 120kph.

But obviously they werent- some were at 120, 100,80 60 etc. And becuase of these varying speeds people would have been changing lanes to overtake. However as stated previously when you change lanes in traffic, you cause all the cars in your new lane to slow down slightly to accommodate you. And each car slows down slightly more than the car before it until one has to stop and then all behind it have to stop.

So while a single driver might reach his destination quickly , his changing lanes might have caused dozens or even hundreds of other cars behind him to arrive later becuase of thier need for braking.

Now with everyone moving at one speed whether 79 or 70kph while the few faster drivers will now arrive later, all the other drivers that no longer have to slow down to accommodate lane changes may now arrive faster. And thus increase carrying capacity.

In other words you cant just take one fast car and extrapolate from that. You have to see how that fast car affected other cars. Maybe that fast car caused others cars to slow down so as to accommodate his speed.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby adnj » May 7th, 2016, 5:55 pm

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby adnj » May 7th, 2016, 6:09 pm

Traffic theory is a very complicated topic but traffic always moves as a compressible liquid.
Any Interruption in the flow causes turbulence which means that everyone behind the Interruption is delayed. The delay will propagate to a point where further back, the delay is generally 6 to 7 times the original delay.
Traffic flow at high speed can be less than flow at a lower speed because the vehicles require less space on the road and less time to stop.


ingalook wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
ingalook wrote:
EmilioA wrote:
ingalook wrote:So the government very effectively reduced the average speed motorist drive on the highway from 110km to 80km overnight - good job there...

They also reduced the carrying capacity of the highway by over 27% overnight as well...

Why don't they barricade the 3rd Lane while they at it - since it seems like they are intent on moving backward



You cant actually say that. Traffic moves like a wave not a fluid. I recall reading studies showing that slower speeds actually increase capacity since most traffic jams are caused by fast cars having to drastically change speeds when another car moves from lane to lane.

If you moving into a lane, a car in that lane has to decrease his speed to give you a chance. leading to the car behind him having to slow down slightly more and on and on until somebody about 15 cars behind has to actually stop. And of course everybody behind him has to stop too even if only for a few seconds. But that stopping continues to ripple backwards as a wave.

Now if the right lane isnt moving fast to begin with , that allows a smoother transition with less need for braking. hence fewer traffic jams.


Traffic moves like a wave when people are not terrified of being charged for being 5km over the speed limit - if they are, then it moves like a fluid.

Expect the average speed to fall to 70-75 after people stop trusting their speedos


Traffic moves like a wave when people are not terrified of being charged for being 5km over the speed limit - if they are, then it moves like a fluid.

Elaborate on this please . I trying to understand the physics of it.


The slowing down and speeding up is reduced, hence there is a flow - if you will get a ticket @81km you won't overtake even if someone is doing 70km on the left lane because during the act of overtaking you will cross 80 and get a ticket.

Coming back to the carrying capacity of the road, if your journey would take you about 30 mins and now it takes 45 mins CERTAINLY there is a reduction in the amount of vehicles that can use the highway in any given time period.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby BRZ » May 7th, 2016, 6:17 pm

^^^actually in Trinidad ALOT of the traffic is caused by ignorant dotish drivers who speed up the shoulder and stick in, as well as those who create additional lames in between actual lanes at the merger points.
Carenage traffic would be much easier if those stupid weekend assh0(Es did not drive on the wrong side and use the shoulders.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby scotty_buttons » May 7th, 2016, 6:27 pm

^ Nah. Most of the traffic is ppl who driving slow in the right and not overtaking anybody and refuse to move to the left

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby BRZ » May 7th, 2016, 6:28 pm

If they blew up all the Tiidas on our roads traffic would really be much less.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby Jon_One » May 7th, 2016, 6:33 pm

What i will like to know is if a radar detector is illegal or detectable by this laser/ radar gun ..
i already know the jammers are illegal...

i dont want to jam there signal . i just want to know if they are there before i get in there sights so i can get my self in check ..

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby drchaos » May 7th, 2016, 6:52 pm

Jon_One wrote:What i will like to know is if a radar detector is illegal or detectable by this laser/ radar gun ..
i already know the jammers are illegal...

i dont want to jam there signal . i just want to know if they are there before i get in there sights so i can get my self in check ..


Allu fellars doh get it?

By the time your detector picks up a signal your speed has already been clocked ....
It is also illegal to have a detector.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby Jon_One » May 7th, 2016, 6:53 pm

ok so i just learnt that a detector wont make much sense with the laser technology because the detector will not pick up the signal fast enough .. if it was radar tech and not laser that wouldve been a different story

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby DVSTT » May 7th, 2016, 8:08 pm

3rd world to the bone.
Imagine what a laughing stock we are, the maximum legal speed limit is 50mph, in 2016.
People probably feel we still riding bullcart.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby pugboy » May 7th, 2016, 8:42 pm

Does anyone know if there was a reduction in cable barrier accidents on ubh this week ?
If so then there certainly is justification

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby Morpheus » May 7th, 2016, 9:02 pm

Nice to see they out at night too lol. El Socorro is a nice spot

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby novastar1 » May 7th, 2016, 9:12 pm

Will this also mean increased waze users to spot cop locations?

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby Chiney » May 7th, 2016, 9:45 pm

Jon_One wrote:ok so i just learnt that a detector wont make much sense with the laser technology because the detector will not pick up the signal fast enough .. if it was radar tech and not laser that wouldve been a different story



my brother in law bought one for around $400 USD..

it actually senses the "device" way before hand, at least 10 secs. gives you plenty time to slow down. but that would be the really expensive detectors.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby Tigs » May 7th, 2016, 9:52 pm

Anyone heard anything about T vehicles' speed limit being 65km/h?

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby *$kїđž!™ » May 7th, 2016, 10:24 pm

Pass them heading north just now ....el Socorro walk over area....hiding in the dark.....with the tripod......a few cops further down the road ready to stop cars.....

Driving at 80 was very sickening....and risky spending so much more time on the roads....

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby greggle71 » May 8th, 2016, 1:11 am

Tigs wrote:Anyone heard anything about T vehicles' speed limit being 65km/h?


Regulations here
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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby hong kong phooey » May 8th, 2016, 3:27 am

I drove of the highway today for the first time. After ten mins I realised it alot easier paying the fine if caught
i driving my normal speed.
I normally drive my pick up at about 90 but 65 is way to slow unless the road wet or it loaded.

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Re: RE: Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby Morpheus » May 8th, 2016, 3:58 am

*$kїđž![TRADE MARK SIGN] wrote:Pass them heading north just now ....el Socorro walk over area....hiding in the dark.....with the tripod......a few cops further down the road ready to stop cars.....

Driving at 80 was very sickening....and risky spending so much more time on the roads....

Saw the there too, around 8:30......in the dark. I was like, cops outside after 8?? Wow lol. I was at about 76-77kph though. New toys, renewed energy.

Had some people in my car Saturday morning and the discussion was the speed limit of course. "50kph is fine". When I hit dem 50kph on Trincity Central Road they start to bawl yes

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby ruffrider27 » May 8th, 2016, 4:28 am

Give it 2 months before another hype comes around ,knowing TTPS do they take care of equipments ?

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby sentraman » May 8th, 2016, 9:05 am

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby lostboys crew » May 8th, 2016, 9:36 am

I believe that's for loaded vehicles not vehicles without load.

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby *$kїđž!™ » May 8th, 2016, 9:42 am

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sentraman wrote:Image
http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=667521

Already discussed....it's 80km....except for rangers

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Re: Speed guns in effect from Monday

Postby drchaos » May 8th, 2016, 10:19 am

*$kїđž!™ wrote::bday:
sentraman wrote:Image
http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=667521

Already discussed....it's 80km....except for rangers


From reading what was posted on the forum you posted,

The law for speed limits say nothing about class 3 and 4. it clear states that goods vehicle over MGW of 2540 is subject to a maximum of 65 KPH. Class 3's like Navara's and Hilux'es benefit from lower duty when landed because they are considered commercial/goods vehicles.

Therefore once it's a commercial/goods vehicle and MGW is above 2540kg then is 65 KPH in yuh tail.

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