Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?

[MD Marketers]

Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?
For the sake of simplicity "I" or "my" refers to the author(s) of this post.

My life Cycle as a thought aware being starts after my brain developed and I am able to process this physical world's interaction with my senses. I do not know for a certainty what exists before I became thought aware. Reality before thought awareness is therefore infinitely unknowable based on individual perspective. It is just as likely to believe that there is no reality before thought awareness as it is to believe that there is one. Any statement I make which claims absolute truth requires foreknowledge of reality before thought awareness, except one.
I know reality exists because thoughts exist. Thoughts being simply "the process of thinking". Thoughts are the only known true reality.
I think therefore I am.

By the above Logic the following statements are dishonest for me to say:
I am absolutely certain God(s) exist(s)
I am absolutely certain God(s) do/does not exist.

My honest answer to "Does my reality exists regardless of how I perceive it?"
No. Without "my" thoughts "my" reality cannot exist.

[MaxPower]

Anybody went Soaka?

[bluesclues]

no, didnt go soaka but i thought about being there therefore i was really there.. hahaha j/k

MD Marketers. i get what ur saying. and let me be the first one to say.. you are right. every perspective you percieve is a true perspective. in fact, it is just one of many perspectives which others would perceive that you may or may not be able to also perceive.

though thought is the only proof that reality exists, making u inadvertently admitting through logic that "thought created reality".. admitting that before men even existed.. thought existed. your individual thought, or say individual perspective is both a result of and the reason for how you presently see your own reality. in a sense, everyone lives in their own little bubble of reality. some people are able to share their bubble with others. some people emphatically resist merging their bubble with another person's. but at the end of the day.. the median line is a line which can be drawn straight down the middle of EVERYONE'S reality. that is the true reality. complete, accounting for all perspectives and presenting.. THE UNIVERSAL PERSPECTIVE.


the universal perspective is the one noone can really disagree with because in some way it agrees with them. and to disagree with that perspective they would be disagreeing in part with their own belief and philosophy of life.

that is pretty much the position i put u in the religion thread. i gave u the opportunity to stress test your perspective. something i do to mine every single day. we must do these things. never assume our view is perfect. always seek for our own flaws in perspective. and very importantly.. admit the possibility of another's perspective even though we ourselves cannot see it.

in other words. your world view will always have a true attributation in one category or another, whether literal or metaphorical. but so does everyone else's. there is a logic to your presentation. but there is also a logic to the other person's presentation. the truth would then clearly be a compromise between the 2 where they contradict eachother and ultimately the real world. because ur little bubble does not encompass the entire world. it is local to you and your person.

[eurotuner]

Anybody went Soaka?

Could not pay dat inflated price. So on tuner

[desifemlove]

No.

reality is subjective. how you or anybody else perceives is relative.

what we perceive to be reality could just be a simulation.

[John_Doe]

No.

reality is subjective. how you or anybody else perceives is relative.

what we perceive to be reality could just be a simulation.

Same thing i saying... Does the police officers in GTA who are hunting u down think their real? They perceive everything u the main character does...

[daas]

Okay bluefete

[walopelia]

Also, you have to ask yourself the question : Would 'reality' exist if there was no one alive to perceive it?

Reality as you said is quite subjective: a schizophrenic person who may hear/see things; their reality is also real to them. The same can be said of animals who have no internal verbal thought monologue as we do.

[wetfowl]

Eating too many white eggs might cause one to rethink their ablity to think for them selves
Dont worry have another drink of what ever you should be smoking

Get a $ 20. Digecl top card and call a few random numbers ,
Any nice sounding girls , women try to chat with them

And by the end of the week you wot be studying, if I is you of you is an I or what ever necessary thoughts that might pervade your mind brother ,

Also go to port of spain and any street dwelling individual you come across ask them " what is the meaning of life "

They have all the answers my brother

[wetfowl]

Also befor I forget. A pass girl from my life used to tell me when I ask she thoes questions you are seeki g thoes answer for
Her advice was to " go and learn a new language, it appears you have mastered the english version that is why you are asking these questions, "
Respectfully and rest in peace ●Gillian Quan●

[streetbeastINC.]

Shcrodinger's cat , paid you a visit i c.

[bluesclues]

No.

reality is subjective. how you or anybody else perceives is relative.

what we perceive to be reality could just be a simulation.

Same thing i saying... Does the police officers in GTA who are hunting u down think their real? They perceive everything u the main character does...

precisely, for all you know, they might feel dey doing all them ting for theyself. they wont even know when you pause the game or shut off the nintendo for a while. to them, time is linear. hahahaha

[desifemlove]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave

op, read this.

[BoxEater]

OP watching too much matrix

[mark2.0]

OP take the blue pill

[MD Marketers]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave

op, read this.

Socrates concludes that the prisoners, if they were able, would therefore reach out and kill anyone who attempted to drag them out of the cave

I can relate

[bluesclues]

watch a good movie boy op boy
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v20117009ZHQ9KDpg

[MD Marketers]

watch a good movie boy op boy
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v20117009ZHQ9KDpg

I would rather not watch a movie based on the recommendation of an illiterate, attention seeking, scheming, dishonest person.
Here's what
Show me how you were able to divide by Zero & not get Zero & maybe I might go watch the movie.

[fallen_angel]

if we pull off that top piece, u feel d melons would drop or they would stand up?

[Les Bain]

Wait, Mandingo had play mas?

[bluesclues]

watch a good movie boy op boy
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v20117009ZHQ9KDpg

I would rather not watch a movie based on the recommendation of an illiterate, attention seeking, scheming, dishonest person.
Here's what
Show me how you were able to divide by Zero & not get Zero & maybe I might go watch the movie.

call me all the names u want. but it is clear that u dont know the english language well enough to read and comprehend and then reason based on your comprehension.

case in point, u call me illiterate yet im on a forum.. reading and writing.

but since we are labelling ppl based on their discussion abilities. allow me then to label you ignorant. in this case u should apply the dictionary meaning of the word ignorant and not the one u may be inclined to attribute to it.

and well if i was attention seeking id be out on a corner showing my face and preaching. yet i prefer to preach anonymously on the internet.

scheming- please inform me what is my scheme because im not aware of it.

dishonest... this implies that i lie? please demonstrate where i have done this.

[cracker]

A few years ago the city council of Monza, Italy, barred pet owners from keeping goldfish in curved bowls. The measure's sponsor explained the measure in part by saying that it is cruel to keep a fish in a bowl with curved sides because, gazing out, the fish would have a distorted view of reality. But how do we know we have the true, undistorted picture of reality?

The goldfish view is not the same as our own, but goldfish could still formulate scientific laws governing the motion of the objects they observe outside their bowl. For example, due to the distortion, a freely moving object would be observed by the goldfish to move along a curved path. Nevertheless, the goldfish could formulate laws from their distorted frame of reference that would always hold true. Their laws would be more complicated than the laws in our frame, but simplicity is a matter of taste.
(See "Mankind's Greatest Explorations and Adventures.")

A famous example of different pictures of reality is the model introduced around A.D. 150 by Ptolemy (ca. 85–ca. 165) to describe the motion of the celestial bodies. Ptolemy published his work in a treatise explaining reasons for thinking that the earth is spherical, motionless, positioned at the center of the universe, and negligibly small in comparison to the distance of the heavens.

This model seemed natural because we don't feel the earth under our feet moving (except in earthquakes or moments of passion). Ptolemy's model of the cosmos was adopted by the Catholic Church and held as official doctrine for fourteen hundred years. It was not until 1543 that an alternative model was put forward by Copernicus. So which is real? Although it is not uncommon for people to say Copernicus proved Ptolemy wrong, that is not true. As in the case of the goldfish, one can use either picture as a model of the universe. The real advantage of the Copernican system is that the mathematics is much simpler in the frame of reference in which the sun is at rest.
(Watch TIME's video "Herschel: The Telescope for Invisible Stars.")

These examples bring us to a conclusion: There is no picture- or theory-independent concept of reality. Instead we adopt a view that we call model-dependent realism: the idea that a physical theory or world picture is a model (generally of a mathematical nature) and a set of rules that connect the elements of the model to observations. This provides a framework with which to interpret modern science.

Though realism may be a tempting viewpoint, what we know about modern physics makes it a difficult one to defend. For example, according to the principles of quantum physics, which is an accurate description of nature, a particle has neither a definite position nor a definite velocity unless and until those quantities are measured by an observer. In fact, in some cases individual objects don't even have an independent existence but rather exist only as part of an ensemble of many.- STEPHEN HAWKING.

[RBphoto]

OP take the blue pill

As a suppository?

[Mr. Red Sleeper]

No.

reality is subjective. how you or anybody else perceives is relative.

what we perceive to be reality could just be a sTimulation.

[rspann]

Op, you care to explain the question ?I try to understand it all how ,until I realize it not making sense. Same thing I was saying in the Religion thread.

[bluesclues]

the paradox of life. is the question on every man's mind. whether he actively seeks the answer or only retires to it when life beats him down a little, or whether he drinks or medicates the thoughts away. that is what op is asking.

the superpositioning of quantum elements.. allowing them to hold 2 states or positions at one time and only to supply each position based on demand. its baffling scientists. the tao, the zoroastrian, the egyptian the greek the roman and sumerian already explicated this through mystical language. the language of the ancients.

is perspective. everything have at least 2 perspectives. and that there is the double edged sword itself. perception. because there are 3 types of people. the people who can see position A, the people that can only see position B. and finally, the people who can see and hold both positions without contradiction, just like the universe and nature does it because it is inherent in man. basically, every position and perspective is true. but just not always applicable or represented by reality.

its just that it seems, the ones that can see both perspectives are considered mad or hypocrits when seen through the eye of position A or B. but that dual perspective, that upholding of the paradox, that central fulcrum point, sees them as hypocrits of eachother. because they deny eachother. but what is there to deny when truth is both of them and not one or the other.

[gencon]

your "reality" is dependent on how you "perceive" it. your question i believe is improperly phrased.

[MD Marketers]

Op, you care to explain the question ?I try to understand it all how ,until I realize it not making sense. Same thing I was saying in the Religion thread.

[MD Marketers]

your "reality" is dependent on how you "perceive" it. your question i believe is improperly phrased.

Ok.
Let me rephrase it.
Does reality exist regardless of your awareness of it?

[INHUMAN]

Wait nevermind...u jus a notch abovr those.guys