The Religion Discussion

[Habit7]

Went to a friends pray meeting yesterday, so time for food, the pastor say that have to bless the food before they eat...after that I said I wasnt eating cause its bless food.....alot was offended, lmao....I knw Christians dont eat bless food from other religions, why be offended if someone does this to them?

^^^ tell that to muslims who won;t eat food prepared by hindus for divali or hindu prayers

Eating food offered up by other religions is not restricted in Christianity. What is restricted is the tacit approval that might be seen by younger weaker Christians that Christians can partake in other religious services nonchalantly. To be blunt, other gods dont exist, so whatever spiritual thing you do to it, does take away its yummy goodness.

Now concerning things sacrificed to idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge makes arrogant, but love edifies. If anyone supposes that he knows anything, he has not yet known as he ought to know; but if anyone loves God, he is known by Him.

Therefore concerning the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that there is no such thing as an idol in the world, and that there is no God but one. For even if there are so-called gods whether in heaven or on earth, as indeed there are many gods and many lords, yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

However not all men have this knowledge; but some, being accustomed to the idol until now, eat food as if it were sacrificed to an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. But food will not commend us to God; we are neither the worse if we do not eat, nor the better if we do eat. But take care that this liberty of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak. For if someone sees you, who have knowledge, dining in an idol’s temple, will not his conscience, if he is weak, be strengthened to eat things sacrificed to idols? For through your knowledge he who is weak is ruined, the brother for whose sake Christ died. And so, by sinning against the brethren and wounding their conscience when it is weak, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if food causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause my brother to stumble.

[meccalli]

As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. Cor 8;4
Most likely the blessing you refer to is giving thanks to God for providing food and that it may be beneficial to the body...amiright?

[York]

is there anything that IS restricted in Christianity?

[Slartibartfast]

Why does the entire bible read like the writer was padding it to hit the minimum word limit?

[meccalli]

The transgression of God's instructions. aka sin.

[megadoc1]

As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. Cor 8;4
Most likely the blessing you refer to is giving thanks to God for providing food and that it may be beneficial to the body...amiright?

strange that you pretend to understand this but yet think that Christians are practicing paganism by celebrating Christmas! selective much?

[York]

Commandment 1 of Moses : " thou shalt have no other gods besides me," The One True God knows there are no other, but yet He refers to those non-existent gods! Sacrifice / slaughtering is a form of worship...

[meccalli]

pretend to understand this

selective much?

Please keep your delusions of worshipping God in pagan feasts to yourself. All I support is scripture. If you prefer to align yourself with the methods that catholics used of, if you can't lick em, join em. That's your decision. I've prayed and asked for guidance on things that I should/should not observe. You can ask him how he feels about things, he answers and leads us.
The Puritans banned it and felt no need for it just as the apostles of Christ saw no need for a celebration of his birth. God doesn't need us to remind the world that a baby came but rather that our saviour is now a strong king ready for his people and ready to execute judgement. The image of a sweet fragile baby doesn't save people nor instil the respect needed for a glorious and fearful leader that is the king of kings. That is the image that's needed, a capable saviour, no longer in the hay, but risen to glory.

[York]

All you guys have proven, is that you have nullified the saviour drama. You don't know who God is, He is not a man, not a baby. Certainly didn't kill himself to resurrect himself to save the sins of mankind. Foolish non-sensical drama!

[meccalli]

thou shalt have no other gods besides me

before my face is the hebrew idiom that equates to to besides me and is found in some translations.

Thou shalt have no other gods before my face.
Literally in his sight, like for megadoc, churches put christmas trees in the forefront of the church. The very same thing he instructed his people to destroy at the high places when they occupied the land. The God that always changes?
I wonder what would happen if the high priests ever placed an evergreen in the temple court.

[megadoc1]

thou shalt have no other gods besides me

before my face is the hebrew idiom that equates to to besides me and is found in some translations.

Thou shalt have no other gods before my face.
Literally in his sight, like for megadoc, churches put christmas trees in the forefront of the church. The very same thing he instructed his people to destroy at the high places when they occupied the land. The God that always changes?
I wonder what would happen if the high priests ever placed an evergreen in the temple court.

thats a whole lot of ignorance you just spew there ...hope you mature up soon enough

[meccalli]

Lets just point fingers and leave us all in ignorance. You seem to revel in it.

[RBphoto]

Don't see what the beatup with food is. Muslim women make love to uncircumcised men normal normal. Actually I think they prefer it.

[Habit7]

Commandment 1 of Moses : " thou shalt have no other gods besides me," The One True God knows there are no other, but yet He refers to those non-existent gods! Sacrifice / slaughtering is a form of worship...

What do you mean by this?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Don't see what the beatup with food is. Muslim women make love to uncircumcised men normal normal. Actually I think they prefer it.

always wondered why god made man with foreskin and then commanded us to cut it off. What's the reason for that?

[Habit7]

Don't see what the beatup with food is. Muslim women make love to uncircumcised men normal normal. Actually I think they prefer it.

always wondered why god made man with foreskin and then commanded us to cut it off. What's the reason for that?

God said further to Abraham, “Now as for you, you shall keep My covenant, you and your descendants after you throughout their generations. This is My covenant, which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: every male among you shall be circumcised. And you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be the sign of the covenant between Me and you.

It was a sign of the covenant between God and the descendants of Abraham of corporate salvation, they eventually broke that covenant. God now offers a new covenant of individual salvation (atonement for sin and relation with God) to anyone with a sign of circumcision of the heart.

For indeed circumcision is of value if you practice the Law; but if you are a transgressor of the Law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. So if the uncircumcised man keeps the requirements of the Law, will not his uncircumcision be regarded as circumcision? And he who is physically uncircumcised, if he keeps the Law, will he not judge you who though having the letter of the Law and circumcision are a transgressor of the Law? For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

It was a sign of the covenant between God and the descendants of Abraham of corporate salvation, they eventually broke that covenant. God now offers a new covenant of individual salvation (atonement for sin and relation with God) to anyone with a sign of circumcision of the heart.

incredibly apologetic, but ok thanks

[York]

Circumcision of the heart, what hogwash! Any argument to get away from individual responsibility and more importantly the obedience of God.

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

Why do people still believe in a god? I couldn't see the need to do it quite honestly. Atleast to me it does not make sense otherwise god would have mentioned some kind of amazing formula in the bible that would be related to something today.

some kind of fouriersum equation that man back then could not have understood and then we today would know he was real

[Slartibartfast]

God created Fourier tho.

"If your creation creates something are you still the creator" - Jayden Smith

[bluesclues]

can anyone recommend someone who can pray and heal a person under spiritual attack. No obeah or rituals

pm me please

i wonder. how do you know they are under spiritual attack? and please dont say 'jumbie does be shaking their bed in the night'.

[bluesclues]

is there anything that IS restricted in Christianity?

the conscience given to our heart tells us what is wrong before we do it. we either listen to that conscience or we do it anyway. this is the life of a christian. God has said that rejecting the conscience is a sure ticket to hellfire. of course this does not mean that if u dodge your conscience once u are doomed. God is forgiving, and observes your progress. so u have sinned, but are u aspiring to reduce that sin? do u care, feel bad and repent your actions or thoughts? this is what earns God's grace under christian doctrine. we accept that none are perfect except for christ.

the one who does not feel bad about performing injustice, who regularly rejects the advice of his conscience, which is indeed the Holy Spirit, the spirit of inspiration and intution. they will surely die as this is considered searing the conscience. none can enter heaven without knowing the way and intent of the conscience having been obedient to it. so if u have none, your physical death will truly be followed by a spiritual death as well.

[meccalli]

The conscience is not the spirit of God. Our mind and conscience is renewed into spiritual understanding when we accept the messiah and the spirit of truth and thus becomes a godly instrument of correction.

[York]

Don't see what the beatup with food is. Unchaste Muslim women make love to uncircumcised men normal normal. Actually I think they prefer it.

As i said before eating non-halal meat is not a major sin unless it is pork.

How do you know they prefer it? If your wife told you so, then she is a gem. Hold on to her with your molar teeth. If you have slept around, then you are a saint. You should boast about it to your kid. In both cases, you dont know and dont fear God. Carry on, time will confirm if He exists and we shall see if His promise is true.

[York]

The conscience is not the spirit of God. Our mind and conscience is renewed into spiritual understanding when we accept the messiah and the spirit of truth and thus becomes a godly instrument of correction.

I tell ppl, it is easier to convince a mad man that he is sane than he is mad / psychotic.

Those instruments dont seem to be working to guide the christian to doing good deeds, only "you can do wrong, just make sure to feel bad so you will be forgiven, as jesus already died for your sins, you are now under grace. You have a get out of hell free card! Halleluyah, praise d lord!!"

[Habit7]

The conscience is not the spirit of God. Our mind and conscience is renewed into spiritual understanding when we accept the messiah and the spirit of truth and thus becomes a godly instrument of correction.

I tell ppl, it is easier to convince a mad man that he is sane than he is mad / psychotic.

Those instruments dont seem to be working to guide the christian to doing good deeds, only "you can do wrong, just make sure to feel bad so you will be forgiven, as jesus already died for your sins, you are now under grace. You have a get out of hell free card! Halleluyah, praise d lord!!"

Are you going to Paradise?

[meccalli]

you can do wrong, just make sure to feel bad so you will be forgiven, as jesus already died for your sins, you are now under grace. You have a get out of hell free card! Halleluyah, praise d l

I see that you either understand nothing about the gospel, misinformed or don't care to understand.
Grace is the freedom we have from God to NOT sin. It is licence to overcome through the works done on the cross. As for the get out free, not a single person on earth is saved until he makes it into the Kingdom of God, Christians live in faith and the assurance of hope in Christ that we will be saved ultimately as long as we abide by God's commandments and guidance.
Romans 6 is just a nugget of Godly inspiration on matters like these.
I can't completely blame you when there are christians who walk around with his mentality and the preachers that teach it.

[megadoc1]

not a single person on earth is saved until he makes it into the Kingdom of God, Christians live in faith and the assurance of hope in Christ that we will be saved ultimately as long as we abide by God's commandments and guidance. .

what do u mean by this?

[metalgear2095]

Wtf is freedom to not sin? Never got that freedom in Christ thing. There isn't any freedom at all

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[York]

you can do wrong, just make sure to feel bad so you will be forgiven, as jesus already died for your sins, you are now under grace. You have a get out of hell free card! Halleluyah, praise d l

I see that you either understand nothing about the gospel, misinformed or don't care to understand.because it is not authentic / tampered with.
Grace is the freedom we have from God to NOT sin. It is licence to overcome through the works done on the cross. Jesus didn't die on the cross. Every single person on the face of the Earth had/has/will have the freedom to sin or not to sin. We do not need a piece of God in us or for anyone to die drama.As for the get out free, not a single person on earth is saved until he makes it into the Kingdom of God, Christians live in faith and the assurance of hope in Christ that we will be saved ultimately as long as we abide by God's commandments and guidance.
Romans 6 is just a nugget of Godly inspiration written by whom? approved by God or jesus?on matters like these.
I can't completely blame you when there are christians who walk around with his mentality and the preachers that teach it.

Yes, the apple does not fall far from the tree.

"Christians" have been deceived in their religion, the one/s they now follow. It is not the true religion of God given to Jesus. God does not dwell in anyone. He is not in need.