Concrete floor re-surfacing options

[Tile Expression Ltd.]

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[Duane 3NE 2NR]

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Nice!!!

can you post some photos here of the wood grain tiles you have in stock?

I have an open 12'x27' concrete patio that I'd like to do in wood grain tile plank (perhaps 10"x30")

[nervewrecker]

Posting here so it will be easy to find

[Tile Expression Ltd.]

http://www.pamesa.com.br/site/catalogo-online/

View pages 22 & 23

Will post actual pics later

[Slartibartfast]

Good info in here

[AdamB]

that tile flooring looks nice, but i am wondering if it will hold up.....

tile warehouse just quoted me for 24x24 porcelain non skid tile with all material is $8500
so that is an option, providing the floor is good enough to put tile as is..
at 900 sq. ft 5$ a sq. ft for labour will bring the total to 13k which is ok

if i have to re-plaster the floor then its over budget for sure


the concrete grinding/polishing and even self epoxy coating might be the way to go for now

Porcelain tiles may be the way to go. It depends on what you use the floor for. Porcelain will always be a better longer lasting finish compared to the epoxy. Might want to stay away from polished tiles, go with matte finish. Polished ones leave streaks when mopping with normal method. Steam mopping are required for those.

The thin long tiles tend to be more expensive than square tiles per square inch/foot. However, when they are running low on stock, you can get reduced prices on good quality tiles. Just make sure you have enough to do the whole floor...or you can choose another tile to border.

You can use normal thinset ($40/bag) with PolyV instead of expensive one ($100/bag). would save you a couple of thou.

Lastly, most porcelain tiles have squared edges unlike ceramic tiles which are beveled, so tileman has to be very good. Better quality tiling costs $6-8/sq.ft generally. Trust me, if you choose squared edge one, you need a good tileman.

[M_2NR]

They did this porcelain "wood grain" tiles where I work and it seems they plan on putting it everywhere... Once you've got a good tile person the finish is superb! Last price I saw was $70 a tile and i believe they were 24"x24". I think this was at hosein's? in marabella.

http://www.pamesa.com.br/site/catalogo-online/

View pages 22 & 23

Will post actual pics later

those white tiles in that office looks awesome!

[NR8]

You can use normal thinset ($40/bag) with PolyV instead of expensive one ($100/bag). would save you a couple of thou.

Would like to hear others' views on this. As far as I know, the heavy duty thinset must be used with porcelain tile.

[X_Factor]

imo, you already spending 10k plus for a job...buy whats recommended for the tile and use it yes
you dont want 2yrs down the road and tiles popping

but this project is just to have an area for my son to walk/play etc

[pugboy]

How can the scratch resistance be tested ?

[mitsutt]

Interesting

[aidan]

een for info

[AdamB]

imo, you already spending 10k plus for a job...buy whats recommended for the tile and use it yes
you dont want 2yrs down the road and tiles popping

but this project is just to have an area for my son to walk/play etc

Pal those are heavy ass tiles plus the difference in the thinset is for it to stick to the bottom of the tile. The PolyV does that saving you a tonne of $$$. I have done 2 houses including garage like that. Not a problem.

Your floor has to be plastered properly to save on thin set but that costs money too.

The bottom line is what you can afford. Nothing beats bare concrete to run and play on with bicycles etc for slip resistance.

[AdamB]

Terrazzo is too expensive due to labor. I suspect the grinding and floor coatings would be similar except maybe if you apply yourself. I think Sherwin Williams has a reasonably priced product. Ramlagan hardware has floor coatings in the paint shop.

[NR8]

Pal those are heavy ass tiles plus the difference in the thinset is for it to stick to the bottom of the tile. The PolyV does that saving you a tonne of $$$. I have done 2 houses including garage like that. Not a problem.

What proportion you mixing the Poly V to a bag of thinset?

[ModMania]

imo, you already spending 10k plus for a job...buy whats recommended for the tile and use it yes
you dont want 2yrs down the road and tiles popping

but this project is just to have an area for my son to walk/play etc

Pal those are heavy ass tiles plus the difference in the thinset is for it to stick to the bottom of the tile. The PolyV does that saving you a tonne of $$$. I have done 2 houses including garage like that. Not a problem.

Your floor has to be plastered properly to save on thin set but that costs money too.

The bottom line is what you can afford. Nothing beats bare concrete to run and play on with bicycles etc for slip resistance.

This is correct, I did a house with 24x24 porcelain, the foundation was cracked so we cut it and filled it. We used normal thin set with poly v added, that was about 8 yrs ago, all the tiles still good, no cracks or pops. Premium thin set is essentially normal thin set with the glue already added, and if the floor uneven just add more thin set to level out the tike where necessary

[Tile Expression Ltd.]

For laying porcelain tiles you can use the regular thinset + poly V, but the better way to you is obviously using the Porcelain thinset.. I've gone to a lot of tile expo where they recommend the premium thinset etc..
but in Trinidad, I do not tell customers what to use because they always think 'd tile man' knows everything..
people even bring their tile man to choose their tiles too...
some tile men like to mix d thinset with red sand also..comes out even cheaper..

[NR8]

I know someone who bought clay tiles recently. It was for a large covered patio area and the factory they bought it from advised them that they could use mortar (just cement, sand and some poly v added) instead of thinset to lower costs. It's only been a few months but it's holding up so far.
To Tile Expression Ltd especially, is this advisable to do? The mortar was used as grout too, out of convenience.

[AdamB]

Pal those are heavy ass tiles plus the difference in the thinset is for it to stick to the bottom of the tile. The PolyV does that saving you a tonne of $$$. I have done 2 houses including garage like that. Not a problem.

What proportion you mixing the Poly V to a bag of thinset?

about 200l to 1 bag, 20 bags to 1 gallon polyV (or less)

[dgobo]

Whatever price you got anywhere...bring a quote and I will beat the price...
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Hey dude, I need to tile my front yard. I was actually going to classic tiles to purchase a slate tile. But after seeing this post I'll drop by your store. Would you be there today ? Im going to be there about 11:30 - 12:00.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Quality control on porcelain thinset is better than the QC on poly-v I'm sure.

[AdamB]

Quality control on porcelain thinset is better than the QC on poly-v I'm sure.

To each his own, big $hot$ u$ually $ay that. But do you even investigate what is contained in premium thinset?

[Tile Expression Ltd.]

Whatever price you got anywhere...bring a quote and I will beat the price...
For the same quality
693-0015
223-TILE

Hey dude, I need to tile my front yard. I was actually going to classic tiles to purchase a slate tile. But after seeing this post I'll drop by your store. Would you be there today ? Im going to be there about 11:30 - 12:00.

I'm not in office usually...but you can still visit our showroom and send me a msg on tuner and let me know if you got tru

[pugboy]

to test abrasive resistance, walk with some good quality sharp sand,
sprinkle and stand over it and rub with your foot

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Quality control on porcelain thinset is better than the QC on poly-v I'm sure.

To each his own, big $hot$ u$ually $ay that. But do you even investigate what is contained in premium thinset?

im no big shot, I just like doing thing properly the first time. It's usually cheaper in the long run.

Do you know what is in the premium thinset?

[qashqai]

http://www.micromillingtt.com/premium_thin_set.cfm

poly V is a bonding agent formulated from polymers. So adding poly V to cheap thinset gives it premium thinset bonding properties.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

http://www.micromillingtt.com/premium_thin_set.cfm

poly V is a bonding agent formulated from polymers. So adding poly V to cheap thinset gives it premium thinset bonding properties.

because all polymers are the same?

[qashqai]

http://www.micromillingtt.com/premium_thin_set.cfm

poly V is a bonding agent formulated from polymers. So adding poly V to cheap thinset gives it premium thinset bonding properties.

because all polymers are the same?

it's proven / known to work. even normal thinset sticks real good to porcelain tiles. companies have to make money, so do as you wish...i will buy d Poly V for just over $100 to treat 20 bags, saving ($50 x 20)-$100 = $900 / 20 = $45/bag.

[qashqai]

http://www.micromillingtt.com/premium_thin_set.cfm

poly V is a bonding agent formulated from polymers. So adding poly V to cheap thinset gives it premium thinset bonding properties.

because all polymers are the same?

do you take paracetamol, panadol, tylenol or acetaminophen, etc...

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

http://www.micromillingtt.com/premium_thin_set.cfm

poly V is a bonding agent formulated from polymers. So adding poly V to cheap thinset gives it premium thinset bonding properties.

because all polymers are the same?

do you take paracetamol, panadol, tylenol or acetaminophen, etc...

paracetamol and acetaminophen are two names for the exact same drug "N-acetyl-p-aminophenol". Are all bonding agents that are formulated from polymers exactly the same? and made to the same quality?
Also is that the only thing the more expensive thinset has that the cheaper thinset doesnt have?