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Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby The_Honourable » June 27th, 2014, 10:56 pm

Rumor has it that Neal & Massy would be re-branding itself and some of its subsidiaries.

Anybody got word about this and could shed some light?

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby ruffrider27 » June 27th, 2014, 11:06 pm

hi-lo going to be re named , hi lo is owned by Neal and Massy

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby Pantos » June 27th, 2014, 11:26 pm

Illuminat is going to be renamed as well. An employee told me the new name last week but I can't remember what was said.

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby Dizzy28 » June 27th, 2014, 11:29 pm

Definitely HiLo cuz ah saw the St Augustine one changing their colour scheme and have taken down the old signage a few weeks now. El Dorado Hi Lo closed down for seven weeks for renovations which would possibly include the rebrand.

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby tr1ad » June 27th, 2014, 11:33 pm

Not a rumour, the change over to the name "Massy" takes effect on Monday for all of NM

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby The_Honourable » June 27th, 2014, 11:40 pm

The talk is Hi-lo is going to be renamed "Massy Foods" meh? brrr? :|

So they decided to drop "Neal"?

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby tr1ad » June 27th, 2014, 11:42 pm

Yes that's correct, Massy Foods, Massy Automotive, Massy Technologies, Massy Wood Group etc

The new logo still reflects "NM" but they have dropped the Neal

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby mars » June 27th, 2014, 11:44 pm

Bad move IMHO - the "Hi Lo" name is a VERY strong brand...

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Postby tr1ad » June 27th, 2014, 11:45 pm

And it's not a talk, the brand was launched in Barbados about a month or two ago

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby cinco » June 27th, 2014, 11:48 pm

So anybody get bad service from any subsidiary dey go bawl massey is chit

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby The_Honourable » June 27th, 2014, 11:48 pm

tr1ad wrote:Yes that's correct, Massy Foods, Massy Automotive, Massy Technologies, Massy Wood Group etc

The new logo still reflects "NM" but they have dropped the Neal



Thank you for the info tr1ad. Wonder what prompted the name change across the board. Don't see why they are dropping the word "Hi-Lo" to "Massy Foods" unless Hi-lo stays and operates under Massy Foods but as Dizzy28 said, they taking down the sign... unless Hi-Lo having a new logo?

Guess we have to wait till Monday.

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby tr1ad » June 27th, 2014, 11:50 pm

Hi-Lo was always under Massy, the past 30+ years, all companies will en corporate the new colours.

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I'm not with tech, but another company

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby The_Honourable » June 28th, 2014, 12:15 am

tr1ad wrote:Hi-Lo was always under Massy, the past 30+ years, all companies will en corporate the new colours.

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I'm not with tech, but another company


Yeah i know Hi Lo was always under N&M. I mean if they would actually drop the word "Hi Lo"

Not a bad logo on the pic there.

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby sbocus » June 28th, 2014, 5:41 am

All Motorist outlets re-branding as well

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Postby pete » June 28th, 2014, 5:51 am

What tracmac going to be called?

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby nismoid » June 28th, 2014, 6:07 am

The_Honourable wrote:
tr1ad wrote:Yes that's correct, Massy Foods, Massy Automotive, Massy Technologies, Massy Wood Group etc

The new logo still reflects "NM" but they have dropped the Neal



Thank you for the info tr1ad. Wonder what prompted the name change across the board. Don't see why they are dropping the word "Hi-Lo" to "Massy Foods" unless Hi-lo stays and operates under Massy Foods but as Dizzy28 said, they taking down the sign... unless Hi-Lo having a new logo?

Guess we have to wait till Monday.

Here ya go:-
http://www.vim-group.com/231-the-top-te ... rebranding

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Postby *$kїđž!™ » June 28th, 2014, 8:10 am

Summary of Neal & Massy's History and Development

Our History 1In 1932, two companies – Neal Engineering, led by Harry Neal, and Massy Limited, led by Charles Massy – merged to create Neal & Massy Engineering Company Limited. Two wholly-owned subsidiaries were then established: Neal & Massy Limited and Tractors and Machinery (Trinidad) Limited (TRACMAC). In the late 1920’s, Charles Massy had secured the dealership for the Caterpillar brand and the Chevrolet brand in Trinidad and Tobago and these became the first in a long list of exclusive brands for which Neal & Massy became agents, in Trinidad and Tobago and later in other Caribbean islands. TRACMAC still holds the Caterpillar dealership today.

Through the strategies of cautious, debt-free expansion and reinvestment of profits locally, Neal & Massy maintained a presence in Trinidad and Tobago. The innovation of the two entrepreneurs and the transformation of their merged company – Neal & Massy Engineering Company Limited – saw them through the economic trials of the Great Depression of the 1930s.

Essentially, Neal & Massy started with two business units: transportation and industrial & engineering equipment. During the time of WWII (1939-1945) the company adapted to ensure its continued existence by shifting primarily from sales into parts and service. By the early 1950s, Neal & Massy was involved mainly in importing machinery and engineering services. By this time, the well-established tractor department offered industrial equipment like cranes and compressors, while the electrical and engineering departments supplied service and smaller items.

In 1958, the company went public. In the years from 1923 to 1945, the number of cumulative total shares grew to only 66,250, with a massive increase of almost 200% in the war years 1942-1945. After the war, share allotments continued to grow significantly. The bold move of its public offer significantly increased the operating capital of Neal & Massy, with cumulative total shares moving from 200,000 in 1957 to 363,150 in 1959 to 450,000 in 1965.

Among its initiatives, the mergers/acquisitions with Cannings and Company in 1975 is noted as one of the boldest moves in the history of the Group. This was a major success story for the Group with the Hi Lo Supermarket chain, which started in the 1950s as part of the Cannings Group, gaining dominance as the major food supplier in the nation.

From 1982-1988 the oil price collapsed and as a result, the economy in Trinidad & Tobago caved in. Coming on the heels of a major growth spurt, companies were caught with high inventory levels and lofty operating costs and as the effects were felt nationwide, many of the receivables became difficult to collect and Neal & Massy reacted by quickly moving to rationalize and consolidate within the Group. Neal & Massy’s head count fell from 9,000 in 1981 to less than 4700 by the late 1990s.

The organization faced mixed fortunes from the expansionist programme embarked upon during the boom years. After a decline in sales of 17% in 1985, Group sales to third parties rose 7%. CARICOM trade conditions eased somewhat in 1986, and the devaluation of the TT dollar boosted non-traditional exports to CARICOM, particularly Jamaica and Barbados. Although Jamaica’s economy faced several challenges due to its friction with the IMF, Neal & Massy’s companies in Guyana continued to perform, despite a 67% devaluation of their local currency in January 1987. The financial year which ended in August 31, 1987 proved to be extremely difficult. The Group shared a net loss of $8.1 million after tax, compared with a profit of $8 million in the previous year.

Between 1986 and 1996, the national economy was slowly on the mend. In 1992, the Group acquired T. Geddes Grant (another major conglomerate at the time) and one of the foundation subsidiaries upon which Marketing & Distribution was created. By the sheer size of the acquisition, Geddes Grant reinforced Neal & Massy as a trading company. This rapid expansion put a strain on the company’s capital structure and the company divested parts of the Geddes Grant Grou

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby VexXx Dogg » June 28th, 2014, 8:37 am

:twisted:
quietdevil wrote:
pete wrote:What tracmac going to be called?


Massy-cat

Well yes, lol

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Postby tr1ad » June 28th, 2014, 8:57 am

quietdevil wrote:
pete wrote:What tracmac going to be called?


Massy-cat



makes you wonder if they thought every group sub properly

what part of Massy Foods doesn't the OP understand, changing the name means they are dropping the Hi-Lo name

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Postby bignog » June 28th, 2014, 9:11 am

neal an massey is aligned with a foreign based engineering company called WOODGROUP......they are merging to control the energy sector ....oil/gas/methanol/ammonia etc......they are also building a new energy plant in pt fortin maybe all this name changing is to avoid tax an stuff .........wimpey(tarmac/carillion ) did too ............the analogy is a single snake with 10 heads

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Postby tr1ad » June 28th, 2014, 9:22 am

bignog wrote:neal an massey is aligned with a foreign based engineering company called WOODGROUP......they are merging to control the energy sector ....oil/gas/methanol/ammonia etc......they are also building a new energy plant in pt fortin maybe all this name changing is to avoid tax an stuff .........wimpey(tarmac/carillion ) did too ............the analogy is a single snake with 10 heads



umm FYI it has been 50/50 with WG PSN since 2004 NMWG functions as EPCM, they do not own or operate facilities, engineering, maintenance, procurement & construction management
massy along with MHI, NGC, government has formed CGCL - Caribbean Gas Chemicals Ltd which is supposed to have MHI design and construct the Di-Methanol facility in La Brea

NMWG is a service provider to the operators within T&T
so how exactly are they merging to control the energy sector?

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby bignog » June 28th, 2014, 10:28 am

dey looking to buy weldfab or part there off........tryin to get sis and others some selling others not ........so therefore if you control all energy providers wont you lock the market?

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby tr1ad » June 28th, 2014, 10:35 am

it's called acquisition, business 101
they tried to buy weldfab in the past, well how can i put this.......... if you provide construction management maybe it's strategic to have in house fabrication? NMWG is considering another fabrication company

no neither NM or NMWG have tried to purchase SIS (why buy a waste of time company?)

SIS/Weldfab etc are not energy providers, they are service providers, NMWG and NM Energy are service providers as well
you seem to have your "classifications" wrong
NGC, Methanex, ALNG, PowerGen are energy providers

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Postby Xplode » June 28th, 2014, 10:36 am

good time to buy shares.

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Postby tr1ad » June 28th, 2014, 10:38 am

Xplode wrote:good time to buy shares.



smart man

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby Bizzare » June 28th, 2014, 10:58 am

Hi-lo Food Stores would be renamed to Massy Supermarket

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Re: Neal & Massy re-branding exercise?

Postby The_Honourable » June 28th, 2014, 11:13 am

tr1ad wrote:
quietdevil wrote:
pete wrote:What tracmac going to be called?


Massy-cat


what part of Massy Foods doesn't the OP understand, changing the name means they are dropping the Hi-Lo name


I don't think they should drop "Hi-Lo" because it is a household name and to my knowledge the general populace doesn't associate anything negative towards the name. Then again, it's their decision. You never know, "Massy Supermarket" or maybe "Massy" might catch on to the public. We'll see.

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Postby GixxerMan » June 28th, 2014, 11:37 am

so what are they going to call masterserv ?

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Postby Team Loco » June 28th, 2014, 12:10 pm

GixxerMan wrote:so what are they going to call masterserv ?


poor serve

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