The GOOGLE | ANDROID Thread

[Trini Hookah]

N7000 folk we got an S5 rom on a 4.1.2 base



Very stable, very fast. And battery life is highly praised.

Check out "S5 Rom" in the n7000 xda forum.

[RASC]

Random Rant:
I love how the tech press love to gang up on Samsung... especially during the S4 they loved to blast the company.

This year they were of course ready to unleash the hate once more-but no matter how much they trying, they really can't help but give the S5 the championship. The phone is mega beast. It's topping all reviews and it's nearing icon status even before the official April 11th launch.

[rodfarva]

People always hate on the market leader. Thats just how it goes. Samsung just makes it a little easier to hate on them.
They pack a lot of great hardware into their device, then bundle it up with a bunch of gimmicky features and a bloated OS that makes their bleeding fast phone run like a budget phone.
Use a stock S4 then try out a play edition S4. Samsung neutered a great phone.

Ive been converted too. For a long time I hated the plastic phones....I always wanted aluminum, until the 4.7" screens came...plastic builds at that size are just easier to handle and feel less fragile

[RASC]

People always hate on the market leader. Thats just how it goes. Samsung just makes it a little easier to hate on them.
They pack a lot of great hardware into their device, then bundle it up with a bunch of gimmicky features and a bloated OS that makes their bleeding fast phone run like a budget phone.
Use a stock S4 then try out a play edition S4. Samsung neutered a great phone.

Ive been converted too. For a long time I hated the plastic phones....I always wanted aluminum, until the 4.7" screens came...plastic builds at that size are just easier to handle and feel less fragile

I think after all this time they've finally figured out how to optimize touchwiz. TheS5 seems to be blazing by all accounts.

Aluminium phones up in size past 4.5inches are nerve wrecking to hold. You always feel like they're about to slip out your hand and kiss the concrete.

I don't mind the plastic in the least.

[ZeroOne]

yeah GPE S5 FTW

[metalgear2095]

People always hate on the market leader. Thats just how it goes. Samsung just makes it a little easier to hate on them.
They pack a lot of great hardware into their device, then bundle it up with a bunch of gimmicky features and a bloated OS that makes their bleeding fast phone run like a budget phone.
Use a stock S4 then try out a play edition S4. Samsung neutered a great phone.

Ive been converted too. For a long time I hated the plastic phones....I always wanted aluminum, until the 4.7" screens came...plastic builds at that size are just easier to handle and feel less fragile

I think after all this time they've finally figured out how to optimize touchwiz. TheS5 seems to be blazing by all accounts.

Aluminium phones up in size past 4.5inches are nerve wrecking to hold. You always feel like they're about to slip out your hand and kiss the concrete.

I don't mind the plastic in the least.

Try a glass phone. I used to hold mine with both hands at all times till I got a case.

[BrandoHD]

I've been reading a common theme in this thread with regards to displays, especially the colours on the Nexus 5, I always see people saying "the Nexus 5 display seems washed out" I just want to jump in to say that this is due to people using poorly calibrated and over-saturated displays that Samsung and now LG has been pushing on consumers over the past few years

The Nexus 5 display is probably the only display on any Android device that is correctly calibrated and after reading the review of the Samsung Galaxy S5 today, it seems that the N5 is still the only Android device with a properly calibrated display

So when making comments or giving reviews to others about devices, take into consideration that what you might think is washed out is actually correct, and what you consider to be a "good display" is actually a marketing trick.

I attached the display section of a couple reviews for reference, so those who are truly interested can go ahead and read: Samsung Galaxy S 5 Display Review and Google Nexus 5 Display Review

This is an excerpt from the Nexus 5 review and I think it describes exactly what is happening:
It’s interesting to hear some Nexus 5 users complain that the display seems undersaturated, since that kind of end user feedback reflects subjective comparison. It also suggests to me that a large percentage of the population doesn’t know what some colors or system elements actually should be. Even for me, looking at the green elements inside the Google Play store on the Note 3 in movie mode or Nexus 5 initially seemed slightly more muted than normal. The reality is that this is what they actually should look like. We’ve just become accustomed to their oversaturated appearance on virtually every other device.

This kind of expectation about what looks right and what doesn’t is rather telling for the state of display calibration in Android handsets, and how OEMs have used oversaturated colors to increase retail shelf appeal. Unfortunately the reality is that oversaturated colors do seem to win taste tests among shoppers, the same way that TVs in most big boxes do. We’ve been looking at them for so long that well calibrated displays like Nexus 5 initially do look noticeably different.

The end result is easy to sum up, however – Nexus 5 has the best calibrated display I’ve seen so far in any Android handset. It’s also leaps and bounds more accurate and controlled than its predecessor display in the Nexus 4.

[rodfarva]

I've been reading a common theme in this thread with regards to displays, especially the colours on the Nexus 5, I always see people saying "the Nexus 5 display seems washed out" I just want to jump in to say that this is due to people using poorly calibrated and over-saturated displays that Samsung and now LG has been pushing on consumers over the past few years

Ive heard/read this before. But at the end of the day, its subjective. I'm not a huge fan of oversaturated displays, but I still find the Nexus 5 to have a bit of a washed out look to it. Whether or not this is accurate, its still how I feel. I havent had that feeling about any other phone really - iphone, n4, htc phones.
Also, the viewing angles on the N5's display are not so great. Again, most of these things are a matter of opinion, but after using quite a few (non samsung, non amoled) phones, I still find the N5 Screen to be washed out.

So when making comments or giving reviews to others about devices, take into consideration that what you might think is washed out is actually correct, and what you consider to be a "good display" is actually a marketing trick.

Have to disagree here. I like what I like.

[RASC]

Boo Hoo
No one cares.
If the people want it over saturated, then the people rule.
"Marketing Trick"... how about serving the public and reaping the rewards.
This isn't a 55 inch. Its a phone... I want my colours vibrant, rich and popping!

Suck Salt otherwise.

[BrandoHD]

To the people that replied, this is exactly what the writer said in the excerpt I made sure to include, the unfortunate reality is that consumers want the over saturated displays, I'm not arguing against that at all, it is just as he wrote..... unfortunate.....

[RASC]

Why Is it unfortunate.
It's unfortunate that the display snobs/ tech crowd don't understand that the will of the people is the will of the people.

I can't stand when they get all uppity.
We do it too with cars... but geez at least car guys don't crucify the masses for buying a Camry over a Supra. Tech ppl want to crucify Susie-Joe from bumfuck nowhere because she like her colours "bright and pretty" on her $199 after 2 year contract phone. Come on man.

[BrandoHD]

Why Is it unfortunate.
It's unfortunate that the display snobs/ tech crowd don't understand that the will of the people is the will of the people.

I can't stand when they get all uppity.
We do it too with cars... but geez at least car guys don't crucify the masses for buying a Camry over a Supra. Tech ppl want to crucify Susie-Joe from bumfuck nowhere because she like her colours "bright and pretty" on her $199 after 2 year contract phone. Come on man.

It is unfortunate, now while I didn't make the post to get into a posting war, as everyone is entitled to their opinion, one cannot pick and choose where a a manufacturer must do right, and where a manufacturer can slack off and do wrong, if we want a better device, then the goal should be get improvements all around, not in bits and pieces, some want better batteries, some want better cameras, some want better build quality etc, how can it make sense to ask for all of that and then say, it's okay to have a poorly calibrated display, it is hypocritical.

An over saturated display is and will always be an over saturated display and it is WRONG, if you like it that way, then there are devices that are on the shelves like that, have at it, no problem, I mainly wanted to address the fact that the theme in this thread is that the Nexus 5's display is "washed out" that is an erroneous statement through and through, no one is crucifying anyone, if I did that somewhere, point that out to me, but I think it benefits all when the correct information is disseminated every once in a while, don't you think so?

There is absolutely no reason for you to feel hurt, the mistake you guys make is attaching your egos to what you like and don't like, other than that, I don't even know what you're trying to prove, and why are you even arguing this, are you going to, at some point prove something contrary to what I already posted???

[rodfarva]

RASC agreed.. why unfortunate?
Whats unfortunate is that an 'authority on phone screen accuracy' (lol) decided to TELL people that their opinion is wrong.

I switched from iphone 5 to nexus 5. From minute one, I noticed the screen was less vibrant. But I was so happy with my new purchase that I ignored it. I even got used to it. But everytime I used some other Device - ipad, friends' phones, I would notice the difference.

The 'display authorities' can go on and on forever if they want. Theyre wrong.

Im not a fan of overblown AMOLEDS, but I dont mind a little extra color either.

[rodfarva]

I mainly wanted to address the fact that the theme in this thread is that the Nexus 5's display is "washed out" that is an erroneous statement through and through

That statement is erroneous.

I'm not trying to prove anything or have an argument. Im simply stating that I dont agree. I dont care what charts, graphs and experts say. The screen is a bit washed out.

[BrandoHD]

I mainly wanted to address the fact that the theme in this thread is that the Nexus 5's display is "washed out" that is an erroneous statement through and through

This statement is erroneous.
I'm not trying to prove anything. Im simply stating that I dont agree. I dont care what charts, graphs and experts say. The screen is a bit washed out.

And how does one determine something is washed out, what is your reference point, washed out in comparison to ______?

[BrandoHD]

RASC agreed.. why unfortunate?
Whats unfortunate is that an 'authority on phone screen accuracy' (lol) decided to TELL people that their opinion is wrong.

I switched from iphone 5 to nexus 5. From minute one, I noticed the screen was less vibrant. But I was so happy with my new purchase that I ignored it. I even got used to it. But everytime I used some other Device - ipad, friends' phones, I would notice the difference.

The 'display authorities' can go on and on forever if they want. Theyre wrong.

Im not a fan of overblown AMOLEDS, but I dont mind a little extra color either.

It will look less vibrant than the iPhone because the Apple has the best calibrated displays in the mobile space

[RASC]

"Phone Experts"LOL

Consumers not Experts decide what is Right or Wrong.

$$$ = Right
NO $$$ = Wrong

[rodfarva]

I mainly wanted to address the fact that the theme in this thread is that the Nexus 5's display is "washed out" that is an erroneous statement through and through

It will look less vibrant than the iPhone because the Apple has the best calibrated displays in the mobile space

So then, Apple's calibration > Nexus 5 calibration
by that logic
Apple's display is more vibrant than that on the Nexus 5
and
because Apple's calibration is better, it means that its more 'right'
and
the Nexus appears washed out because its less vibrant than the iPhone
so...we agree.

[RASC]

Experts don't keep your company afloat. Therefore their opinion is irrelevant if it doesn't align with the will of the people and their wallets.

[BrandoHD]

I mainly wanted to address the fact that the theme in this thread is that the Nexus 5's display is "washed out" that is an erroneous statement through and through

It will look less vibrant than the iPhone because the Apple has the best calibrated displays in the mobile space

So then, Apple's calibration > Nexus 5 calibration
by that logic
Apple's display is more vibrant than that on the Nexus 5
and
because Apple's calibration is better, it means that its more 'right'
and
the Nexus appears washed out because its less vibrant than the iPhone
so...we agree.

Now compare the iPhone to an LG G2 or S4, you may find that you will soon disagree with yourself

[BrandoHD]

Experts don't keep your company afloat. Therefore their opinion is irrelevant if it doesn't align with the will of the people and their wallets.

Are you saying that if Samsung starts to properly calibrate their displays that they won't sell as much???

If "nobody cares" and customers want the colours to "pop" as this is a 5 inch screen, not a 55 inch, can you give the reason for Samsung making this enormous effort to improve the calibration of the display on the S5? and effort so great, that the display experts have said that the display is miles better than the Note 3?

Were they listening to customers, like you?

Do yourself a favour and read the review, it is not about bashing, it is about improvement all around

[GoS]

fellas i still running 4.2.2 on my s4 active how do i get the upgrade step by step or should i wait tell it come out for the active

[S_2NR]

This brandohd fella could beat up boy...lawd

[metalgear2095]

I'm satisfied with my display. That's all that matters. I could care less what the experts say. Media looks great on my phone.

[Trini Hookah]

N7000 folk we got an S5 rom on a 4.1.2 base



Very stable, very fast. And battery life is highly praised.

Check out "S5 Rom" in the n7000 xda forum.

Update:

[M_2NR]

haha @ screen size bug...Well it's probably my phone only lol..takes a MILLION years to open facebook and start browsing compared to my Nexus 5 which does it instantly, bluetooth pairing issues with headsets/car decks etc, Tethering glitches alot and while I don't have a 5S, alot of people report TouchID glitches out right after the update to 7.1. These bugs were found while communicating with people who watch my channel on YouTube via Twitter/forums/Facebook etc. And I experienced the GIANT FB lag as well as the bluetooth and tethering issues first hand. Its probly just a batch feel like not working properly whereas some work good. But overall you can't really compare iOS vs Android...its not the same category.

What i used to do with FB is delete and reinstall it. The reason being is that the cache for it gets exceedingly large and lags the entire app. It's the easiest thing to do to fix it. Read about it in the apple thread.
I used to experience auto-pairing issues in the past but this was due to the bluetooth device.

M_2NR...why not wipe everything and OTG Flash your ROM?

laziness really The latest PA and FKU working alright though

Granted the htc camera is not up to scratch ...but better build quality and audio quality ... Plus lg's nexus cameras haven't been anything to shout about anyway

I'm all for the better build quality with HTC but I was far from impressed by their cameras. Although the camera module on the n5 does not detect a wide range of colors in all circumstances (unless you use HDR+), with some editing you can get really good pictures and there is a lot of detail in the photos for the amount we pay for it.

TH, that rom looking nice. Like I hadda coax my coworkers to get it yes.

[zahc]

Guys, check this video on the S5! Nice surprise at the end

[streetlifestyle]

^^^^^^what video tho bro???? ^^^^^

[jhonnieblue]

Got a nexus 5. S4 fell down and LCD went thru.. Must say the nexus is miles faster and smoother.. Missing some of the short cuts and features of the s4 but the stability of the nexus 5 more than make up for it
Any recommendations of apps or mods to do?

[Swisha]

$6850 for a prepaid S5 from bmobile