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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 10th, 2014, 11:16 pm

pioneer wrote:According to CNC3 the mother threatened or insinuated she would go to the doctor's home and buss open his head and commit murder?

Police ought to check up on that serious statement in the times we live in.


Go fcuk yuhself.

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 10th, 2014, 11:17 pm

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"Health officials responsible for death of baby"

Something definitely went wrong and health officials were responsible for the death of baby Simeon whose head was cut open during a Caesarean section on Carnival Saturday.

An internal report by the North Central Regional Health Authority (NCRHA) has found that there were serious questions surrounding the baby’s death.

This report looked at the administrative aspect of the case on whether procedure was followed.

An independent investigative team is yet to be appointed to do a clinical probe on the baby’s death.

On March 1, a C-section was performed on Quelly Ann Cottle, 38, at the Mt Hope Women’s Hospital during which her baby died.

The baby’s father, Emil Millington has pleaded for answers surrounding his son’s death and called on the authorities for action, claiming there was an attempt to cover up the incident by cremating his baby’s body the very day he died.

A report, compiled by the NCRHA quality coordinator, looked at whether process was followed when the surgery was conducted, in particular, whether there were any breaches in the policy with respect to obstetrics.

This 15-page report was hand delivered to Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan yesterday.

Sources told the Express that the report raised concerns over the doctor’s competence to perform the surgery and the fact that contrary to hospital policy no senior consultant was present during the operation.

The report further looked at the entire care of the patient prior and post surgery and again raised questions on both the doctor’s and consultants failure to deliver quality care.

The doctor who performed the surgery had only recently obtained his specialisation in obstetrics and lacked experience in performing C-sections, sources said. He was suspended last Friday with basic pay.

There has been contention on whether two consultants who were supposed to be on duty but were not present should also be held culpable as they allowed a junior specialist to conduct surgery without supervision.

A preliminary autopsy report found that the baby’s head was sliced open during the surgery and the brain tissue was penetrated.

Khan has defended the consultants, saying that they did not have to be present at the hospital as the case was not high risk and they could have been called in if needed.

Sources told the Express that the mere fact that the baby was premature at seven months and the mother was hypertensive made the pregnancy a high risk one and a C-section should not have been done on Carnival Saturday.

Millington told the Express yesterday that he was disappointed with the Minister’s comments and felt that he (Khan) has already gone in defensive mode even before an investigation has started.

“I was watching Dr Khan on TV and he is in defence mode, that bothers me terribly. Doctors always cover for doctors, this just contribute more to my anger,” said Millington.

He said the investigative team should be headed by a foreigner and who has no medical ties to this country.

Millington said he wants to have a funeral for his son but was awaiting the final autopsy result which should be made available today after which a date will be decided.

“I want to get my child buried, his body has been roaming around on this earth for too long and it is taking a toll on the mother. I really want to see the healing process begin,” said Millington.

He said he has retained the services of attorney Colin Selvon to represent his wife and himself in the matter.

Millington, Cottle and Selvon yesterday met with NCRHA Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Kumar Boodram.

Millington said the NCRHA has offered to stand the expenses of the baby’s funeral which was accepted.

He said he was advised that a report should be made to the police and he will also seek his lawyer’s guidance on this.

Selvon, speaking to the Express by phone, said he has asked Boodram to expedite the probe into the baby’s death.

He said the matter was “straightforward” and he will look at whether the hospital would be willing to discuss a settlement in terms of compensation for the family or whether they would have to head to court to seek justice.

Selvon said there was no need to wait for the final outcome of the independent investigation and he expects that discussions and mediation would take place early.





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The death of baby Simeon at the Mt Hope Women's hospital during a Caesarian section has re-opened the wounds of grief for Lorne Ramsoomair whose wife died two years ago during a C-section.

"It brings back a lot of bad memories, a lot of bad feelings, a lot of pain," Ramsoomair told the Express by phone yesterday.

Crystal Boodoo-Ramsoomair, 29, died from postpartum haemorrhage at the San Fernando General Hospital after a C-section surgery on Carnival Friday, March 4, 2011. The baby, Danielle, was saved.

The matter is currently before the courts.

Ramsoomair said Danielle turned three on March 4.

He said the death of seven-month-old baby Simeon tells that the health system has not improved.

"I think very much more needs to be done, this shouldn't be happening, this process is still third world," said Ramsoomair.

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby rfari » March 10th, 2014, 11:25 pm

Premature baby and not high risk? Khan Srs? Wey kamla does find dese fellas jed?

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby 88sins » March 11th, 2014, 12:57 am

rfari wrote:Premature baby and not high risk? Khan Srs? Wey kamla does find dese fellas jed?


i don't believe even she could answer that

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby spanish » March 11th, 2014, 5:27 am

A premature baby...mother hypertensive, and that's not a high risk delivery? Fuad Khan under de influence or what?

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Postby RBphoto » March 11th, 2014, 5:54 am

pioneer wrote:According to CNC3 the mother threatened or insinuated she would go to the doctor's home and buss open his head and commit murder?

Police ought to check up on that serious statement in the times we live in.


Agreed. People are too liberal with their orifices at times.

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby nemisis » March 11th, 2014, 6:32 am

I thought she said supposed she did the same to the doctor would she too get suspended with pay while the investigation goes on, stupid yes but didn't sound like a threat

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby 88sins » March 11th, 2014, 7:22 am

can't blame the parents for venting. let somebody kill your preemie baby,most likely by negligent means, & lets see how well you keep quiet/undisturbed.

this aint gonna stop till ppl start penalizing the individual dr's involved. when they personally have to feel the penalty for negligence coming out of their own pocket or face the threat of jail time or loss of license to practice, you'd see how fast the picture would change for the better.

but since is a setta dr's running the country, guess what'll never happen

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Postby rfari » March 11th, 2014, 7:56 am

88sins wrote:can't blame the parents for venting. let somebody kill your preemie baby,most likely by negligent means, & lets see how well you keep quiet/undisturbed.

this aint gonna stop till ppl start penalizing the individual dr's involved. when they personally have to feel the penalty for negligence coming out of their own pocket or face the threat of jail time or loss of license to practice, you'd see how fast the picture would change for the better.

but since is a setta dr's running the country, guess what'll never happen

well said. in the meantime, poor ppl cyar geh justice in dis country

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby javishm » March 11th, 2014, 8:25 am

spanish wrote:A premature baby...mother hypertensive, and that's not a high risk delivery? Fuad Khan under de influence or what?


Khan only know to feel up man balls.....wha he know again

Sabriel wrote:I'm sure there is a good reason why these things don't occur in St.Clair, Westshore, Stanley's, St.Augustine private hospital...


who says sheit like this never happens there....it just may be covered up properly

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Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 11th, 2014, 8:48 am

Sabriel wrote:I'm sure there is a good reason why these things don't occur in St.Clair, Westshore, Stanley's, St.Augustine private hospital...


Things like this do happen at private institutes. In fact when sheit hits the fan in some cases they quick to send you public institutions after so you don't die on their watch.

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Postby Trini Hookah » March 11th, 2014, 9:12 am

Sabriel wrote:I'm sure there is a good reason why these things don't make headlines in St.Clair, Westshore, Stanley's, St.Augustine private hospital...

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby teems1 » March 11th, 2014, 9:48 am

spanish wrote:A premature baby...mother hypertensive, and that's not a high risk delivery? Fuad Khan under de influence or what?


Mother is 38 years.

So it's a geriatric pregnancy, hypertensive mother and premature. To a layman that seems higher than usual risk.

Either way, how come no doctor in here could confirm is an ear to ear cut is a standard risk associated with a C-section?

It's not like they nicked the baby's finger or something, it's an entire cut across the baby's head.

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Postby DFC » March 11th, 2014, 10:10 am

cringed so hard when i read details of the incident.

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Postby Dizzy28 » March 11th, 2014, 10:41 am

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:
Sabriel wrote:I'm sure there is a good reason why these things don't occur in St.Clair, Westshore, Stanley's, St.Augustine private hospital...


Things like this do happen at private institutes. In fact when sheit hits the fan in some cases they quick to send you public institutions after so you don't die on their watch.


In most cases isn't it the same doctors at the private facilities as the public ones?

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Postby Arcmanov » March 11th, 2014, 3:58 pm

spanish wrote:A premature baby...mother hypertensive, and that's not a high risk delivery? Fraud Khan under de influence or what?



There...fixed it for you.

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Postby saxman642 » March 11th, 2014, 6:42 pm

Was watching Ian show and took a couple shots off the cut to baby head off the TV. Be warned, it graphic:

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby Richard Marshall » March 11th, 2014, 7:16 pm

Na man. That's not right. Looking at that, doctor's fault. Justice must be served. I'm really sorry for the couple's loss. It's really saddening. :cry:

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby spanish » March 11th, 2014, 8:40 pm

Jeez...doc feel he was making chow or what? Steups!

RIP Baby Simeon

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Postby rfari » March 11th, 2014, 10:06 pm

Sabriel wrote:Oh well ...how else would an inexperienced obstetrician gain experience..4sigh...I guess baby Simeon paid the price...poor fella.. :(

If it happen to u, u will still think the same way?

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby nervewrecker » March 11th, 2014, 10:44 pm

rfari wrote:
pioneer wrote:According to CNC3 the mother threatened or insinuated she would go to the doctor's home and buss open his head and commit murder?

Police ought to check up on that serious statement in the times we live in.

What wrong wid dat?


If I was that father all now I in jail.

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby rfari » March 12th, 2014, 8:18 am

Sabriel wrote:
rfari wrote:
Sabriel wrote:Oh well ...how else would an inexperienced obstetrician gain experience..4sigh...I guess baby Simeon paid the price...poor fella.. :(

If it happen to u, u will still think the same way?
.. well..at the end of the ordeal..I'd hope the baby didn't die in vain...and that the obstetrician has learnt from his mistake and not have a repeat ever again...


btw, what's the obstetrician's name again?

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Postby RIPEBREDFRUIT » March 12th, 2014, 8:57 am

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Health-officials-responsible-for-death-of-baby-249369131.html?m=y&smobile=y&clmob=y&c=n


"Health officials responsible for death of baby"

Something definitely went wrong and health officials were responsible for the death of baby Simeon whose head was cut open during a Caesarean section on Carnival Saturday.

An internal report by the North Central Regional Health Authority (NCRHA) has found that there were serious questions surrounding the baby’s death.

This report looked at the administrative aspect of the case on whether procedure was followed.

An independent investigative team is yet to be appointed to do a clinical probe on the baby’s death.

On March 1, a C-section was performed on Quelly Ann Cottle, 38, at the Mt Hope Women’s Hospital during which her baby died.

The baby’s father, Emil Millington has pleaded for answers surrounding his son’s death and called on the authorities for action, claiming there was an attempt to cover up the incident by cremating his baby’s body the very day he died.

A report, compiled by the NCRHA quality coordinator, looked at whether process was followed when the surgery was conducted, in particular, whether there were any breaches in the policy with respect to obstetrics.

This 15-page report was hand delivered to Health Minister Dr Fuad Khan yesterday.

Sources told the Express that the report raised concerns over the doctor’s competence to perform the surgery and the fact that contrary to hospital policy no senior consultant was present during the operation.

The report further looked at the entire care of the patient prior and post surgery and again raised questions on both the doctor’s and consultants failure to deliver quality care.

The doctor who performed the surgery had only recently obtained his specialisation in obstetrics and lacked experience in performing C-sections, sources said. He was suspended last Friday with basic pay.

There has been contention on whether two consultants who were supposed to be on duty but were not present should also be held culpable as they allowed a junior specialist to conduct surgery without supervision.

A preliminary autopsy report found that the baby’s head was sliced open during the surgery and the brain tissue was penetrated.


Crystal Boodoo-Ramsoomair, 29, died from postpartum haemorrhage at the San Fernando General Hospital after a C-section surgery on Carnival Friday, March 4, 2011. The baby, Danielle, was saved.

The matter is currently before the courts.

Ramsoomair said Danielle turned three on March 4.

He said the death of seven-month-old baby Simeon tells that the health system has not improved.

"I think very much more needs to be done, this shouldn't be happening, this process is still third world," said Ramsoomair.

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and what of the consultants? im sure they wil bot say they told the doctor to wait they ould never admit if they had told him to go ahead whil they may have been carnivaling down the place.

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Postby ~*Pãñdorą*~ » March 12th, 2014, 9:02 am

You know what's hard to understand?

Why common sense don't prevail in times like these?

The Woman's C-section was necessary- yes.. But not an emergency case. She was high risk.. But not life or death. So they scheduled the c section for Carnival Saturday when there would be a skeleton crew on staff.

Why didn't the Junior Dr. decided to wait on the second consultant (the one that wasn't in Tobago.. ) or why didn't he reschedule her for the next day or when he knew he'd have a consultant on hand?

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Postby Hyperion » March 12th, 2014, 2:17 pm

You know what's interesting? the fact that the minister of health sees it fit to send the file to the AG for advice? if this is a criminal matter shouldn't the file be sent to the DPP? What are they trying to hide? who is the doctor and to whom is he/she connected or related?

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Postby spanish » March 12th, 2014, 2:45 pm

Hyperion wrote:You know what's interesting? the fact that the minister of health sees it fit to send the file to the AG for advice? if this is a criminal matter shouldn't the file be sent to the DPP? What are they trying to hide? who is the doctor and to whom is he/she connected or related?


Smells like a lawsuit against the State (NWRHA), not the doctor personally.

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Postby Shannon » March 12th, 2014, 8:05 pm

UWIs statement regarding incident at Mt Hope Maternity Hospital

For Release Upon Receipt - MARCH 12, 2014
ST. AUGUSTINE

ST. AUGUSTINE, Trinidad and Tobago – The University of the West Indies (The UWI) is saddened at the loss of baby Simeon’s life and at the time of this unfortunate event, wishes to extend sincere condolences to the family. Given the recent media reports emerging on this matter, it has become necessary for The UWI to intervene and clarify the standard operating procedures relative to its Consultants operating in Obstetrics & Gynaecology at the Mt. Hope Maternity Hospital, Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex.

At the above-named hospital, the North-Central Regional Health Authority (RHA) has four teams (or Units) in Obstetrics & Gynaecology (O&G); of the four Units, three are led by RHA Consultants and one (Unit A) is led by UWI Consultants. The UWI-led team is the only Unit within O&G that has two Consultants - both of whom are UWI staff and who also do clinics, ward rounds and teach surgeries in addition to being on-call on a rotational basis. UWI’s Consultants operating at the RHA are Honorary Consultants to the RHA and supervise junior medical staff who are employed by the RHA.

In this particular case, one of The UWI’s Consultants from Unit A was on pre-approved leave (of which the RHA was duly notified) while the other was on call. Standard operating procedures set by the Ministry of Health provide that Caesarean sections in all high risk cases should have a Registrar or Consultant in attendance. At the Mt Hope Maternity Hospital, it is the established practice that an experienced Specialist Registrar would conduct the C-Section but would have access to advice and support and, if needed, intervention by the Consultant. Standard practice under the Trinidad & Tobago health care system does not require an on-call Consultant to be present at the time of a C-Section being conducted, unless there is a special need to do so.

In the case of Mrs. Quelly Ann Cottle, the Specialist Registrar (employed by the RHA, with no conditions or restrictions to functioning in this capacity) who undertook the procedure, is an experienced Specialist Registrar in O&G who holds the MRCOG - Membership of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists Certificate (London). The records will indicate that he has also performed, within the last two years alone, over 100 unsupervised and successful C-Sections at the Mt. Hope Maternity Hospital, including those for high-risk pregnancies. It is within this context that when Mrs. Cottle’s C-Section was scheduled, the UWI Consultant who was on call, and was accessible, was not requested to be in attendance.

Medical practitioners from The UWI’s Faculty of Medical Sciences at the St Augustine Campus have been serving the people of this country, the region and internationally with distinction since 1967 and they will continue to perform their duties diligently in the interest of the health and well-being of all. The UWI as a responsible institution providing critical academic and clinical support services to the RHAs in the discharge of their functions within the public health care system will continue to strengthen its processes and systems to ensure that its role and functions in such environments remain relevant and cutting-edge.

For further information, please contact the Dean's Office, Faculty of Medical Sciences, at (868) 645-2640 ext.5025

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About The UWI

Since its inception in 1948, The University of the West Indies (UWI) has evolved from a fledgling college in Jamaica with 33 students to a full-fledged, regional University with well over 48,000 students. Today, UWI is the largest, most longstanding Higher Education Institute (HEI) in the Commonwealth Caribbean, with four campuses in Barbados, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, and the Open Campus. The UWI has faculty and students from more than 40 countries and collaborative links with 160 universities globally; it offers undergraduate and postgraduate degree options in Food & Agriculture, Engineering, Humanities & Education, Law, Medical Sciences, Science and Technology and Social Sciences. UWI’s seven priority focal areas are linked closely to the priorities identified by CARICOM and take into account such over-arching areas of concern to the region as environmental issues, health and wellness, gender equity and the critical importance of innovation.

(Please note that the proper name of the university is The University of the West Indies, inclusive of the “The”, hence The UWI.)


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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby Arcmanov » March 12th, 2014, 8:20 pm

All dat to say 'doh blame we cornsultant dem'?

Everybody trying to dodge them bullets like The Matrix boy.

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Re: Baby dies after head cut during C-section

Postby SmokeyGTi » March 12th, 2014, 9:10 pm

Its obvious that a mistake was made here, one that resulted in death. The question is what kind of disciplinary action should be taken? Should a doctor lose their job for this?

Is a doctor expected to have a flawless record simply because lives are at stake?

And can that argument be extended to other professionals such as firemen, life guards and the police?

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