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When did Tobago become a country?

Postby TriniAutoMart » September 1st, 2013, 9:20 am

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2013-09- ... o%E2%80%99

The country of “Tobago” was represented at the recent 11th Caribbean Festival of Arts (Carifesta) in Suriname, leading to confusion among Carifesta officials and the official T&T contingent, the Sunday Guardian has found out. The Sunday Guardian was told the Tobago House of Assembly (THA) sent its own contingent to Carifesta, which was held between August 16 and 25, and an announcement was made onstage that the group was from “the country of Tobago.”


Minister of the Arts and Multiculturalism Dr Lincoln Douglas, who was part of the official T&T contingent, confirmed reports. Saying it was a very “sad” thing, Douglas said, “A contingent did represent Tobago and it was not the first time something like that happened.” Douglas said it was a habit of the THA to send separate contingents to events. Saying the situation created some discrepancies, he said, “Both the Carifesta people and the official contingent were confused.”

He said his ministry frequently received complaints that Tobago was not well-represented in official T&T contingents to cultural events. However, he said, at this year’s Carifesta, Tobagonians made up an important part of the official T&T group. “We tried to include all at the forefront. There were cooks and performers from Tobago in the official T&T contingent.”

Douglas said he intended to speak to Chief Secretary Orville London and Secretary of Culture Dr Denise Tsoiafatt-Angus about the issue. “It is unfortunate that those kinds of things happen, but we have to work through them,” he said.


Ingrid Ryan-Ruben, director of culture at the Ministry of the Arts and Multiculturalism, also attended this year’s festival. She said it was common for countries to be represented by an official contingent, as well as unofficial groups. Usually, unofficial groups participated in “fringe” festivals that were not part of the official programme, Ryan-Ruben said. She said, “Carifesta wants to deal with the official contingent.”

However, this year, because of a delay in finalising the programme for the fringe festivals, the official T&T contingent allowed unofficial groups, which included a contingent from the THA, to participate in the official programme. Ryan-Ruben said she was not present on the night when an announcement was allegedly made that a group was from the “country of Tobago.”

“At the end of the day, everybody was included. When we are abroad, everybody represents T&T and we don’t want it to seem as though we are divided.” Efforts to contact London and Tsoiafatt-Angus were unsuccessful.

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby ~Vēġó~ » September 1st, 2013, 9:43 am

no scene dey....keep trying, when it happens would you really want it?

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby eliteauto » September 1st, 2013, 10:11 am

well if at a national level they feel unrepresented, yet they can send a contingent good enough to make the main stage then it sucks to be the ministry, good move by the THA in seeking Tobago's interest

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby sMASH » September 1st, 2013, 10:16 am

^^agreed

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby zoom rader » September 1st, 2013, 10:28 am

Rowley will make a good Prime Minster for Tobago but not Trinidad

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby ~Vēġó~ » September 1st, 2013, 10:30 am

agreed also there elite.....

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby aspsounds » September 1st, 2013, 2:57 pm

Tobago iz a country..... thought it was part of grenada

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby Habit7 » September 1st, 2013, 7:51 pm

Grenada willing to take Tobago's place if they want out.
Trust me. :|

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby De Dragon » September 1st, 2013, 9:38 pm

Dr Denise bettah prep she angus..............

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby Gem_in_i » September 1st, 2013, 11:35 pm

They not a country?

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby zoom rader » September 2nd, 2013, 3:27 am

Habit7 wrote:Grenada willing to take Tobago's place if they want out.
Trust me. :|


But Half of Grenada lives in Trini

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby MG Man » September 2nd, 2013, 10:56 am

eliteauto wrote:well if at a national level they feel unrepresented, yet they can send a contingent good enough to make the main stage then it sucks to be the ministry, good move by the THA in seeking Tobago's interest


why not collaborate, or at least let the trini side know what they planning?

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby Habit7 » September 2nd, 2013, 11:02 am

zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Grenada willing to take Tobago's place if they want out.
Trust me. :|

But Half of Grenada lives in Trini

Yip, CARICOM Single Market and Economy, they could come and live aand work here as much as we could go there and sell Chubby, Sunshine Snacks and Holiday Foods.

Deal with it.

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby nemisis » September 2nd, 2013, 11:03 am

MG Man wrote:
eliteauto wrote:well if at a national level they feel unrepresented, yet they can send a contingent good enough to make the main stage then it sucks to be the ministry, good move by the THA in seeking Tobago's interest


why not collaborate, or at least let the trini side know what they planning?
it's a two way street, does it happen that way with mainland events?

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby RASC » September 2nd, 2013, 11:18 am

Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Grenada willing to take Tobago's place if they want out.
Trust me. :|

But Half of Grenada lives in Trini

Yip, CARICOM Single Market and Economy, they could come and live aand work here as much as we could go there and sell Chubby, Sunshine Snacks and Holiday Foods.

Deal with it.


Ask zoom Rader if he knows the % of local industry exports to there islands.

We benefit a lot from this free travel. Let them come here and get a taste and liking for our products.

Right now ppl even smuggling Kiss Cake into Jamaica. Cause they can't get it there and love it over their locally made alternative.

What about the hundreds of local business men who can easily open business up the islands? You think zr studying that? All he studying is "too many black ppl allowed to enter the county".

Is racism trumps business sense and all.

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby zoom rader » September 2nd, 2013, 3:03 pm

RASC wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Grenada willing to take Tobago's place if they want out.
Trust me. :|

But Half of Grenada lives in Trini

Yip, CARICOM Single Market and Economy, they could come and live aand work here as much as we could go there and sell Chubby, Sunshine Snacks and Holiday Foods.

Deal with it.


Ask zoom Rader if he knows the % of local industry exports to there islands.

We benefit a lot from this free travel. Let them come here and get a taste and liking for our products.

Right now ppl even smuggling Kiss Cake into Jamaica. Cause they can't get it there and love it over their locally made alternative.

What about the hundreds of local business men who can easily open business up the islands? You think zr studying that? All he studying is "too many black ppl allowed to enter the county".

Is racism trumps business sense and all.

How is that racist, we tying to save Trini and you want to bring in more pest.

1. Try getting a job in Barbados as a trini nah
1a. Try telling Bardados to let in Jamacians and Guyanese nah
2. If you paid attention to my other post you would I see I diss de guyanese and immigrants.
3. With all these trini exports how many are trini afro owned?
4. Must trini allow every tom, dick and harrylal to abuse our health care system to put down a chile in trini for a passport.
5. Trini dont need anymore dregs coming in, we already Laventille and Beetham to tame, After 50yrs they cant adjust.
6. All these small island ppl can even pronounce indo names.
They find is very hard to intergrate with Indos, same as you.
7. Are these ppl productive?
8.The only reason you want these ppl here is too vote PNM.
9. These ppl dont understand trini culture, thats is what left of it.
10. When these ppl come here they end up staying because of freeness and easy life .while giving very little back .
11. We must let these ppl in because they buy kiss cake
12. Try telling Bardados to let in Jamacians and Guyanese nah
13. Trini is not ready for immigrantion, trinis cant even get housing
14. If trini want immigrants then they should be financially off. Try migrating to the cayman Island or BVI nah.
15. Its not about letting in black ppl , its about letting in the right ppl that can fit in.
16. American Indians tolerated immigrations now they live in reservations, same as in trini that lives in gated communities.

The UK is a mess bacause of euro trash immigrants. Its easy pickings for them to abuse the UK social care. Its all the same for the small islanders to abuse trini freeness.

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby Habit7 » September 3rd, 2013, 9:04 am

^^^dont you work in the UK as an immigrant worker?

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby zoom rader » September 3rd, 2013, 10:55 am

Habit7 wrote:^^^dont you work in the UK as an immigrant worker?


If you read my pass posts you have known that in live in trini and work in the UK and pay trini taxes under a double tax treaty with the UK and trini . I am not a UK immigrant, I am classed as an skilled overseas worker under a special working visa as do many other offshore UK workers.

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby Habit7 » September 3rd, 2013, 11:01 am

^^as do skilled workers within the CARICOM Single Market and Economy, the only difference is we keep their tax dollars.

Deal with it.

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby zoom rader » September 3rd, 2013, 11:05 am

Habit7 wrote:^^as do skilled workers within the CARICOM Single Market and Economy, the only difference is we keep their tax dollars.

Deal with it.

Having skilled workers is a plus that can look after themselfs, the problem is you have illegal immigrants coming in the back door that pay no taxes but want the best of trini social system.

Trini health care system is that any guyanese can walk in and put down a baby, no questions ask for free.
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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby nemisis » September 3rd, 2013, 11:14 am

zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:^^as do skilled workers within the CARICOM Single Market and Economy, the only difference is we keep their tax dollars.

Deal with it.

I dont mind skilled workers coming in, the problem is you have illegal immigrants coming in the back door that pay no taxes but want the best of trini social system.
where in the world this does not happen?

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby Habit7 » September 3rd, 2013, 11:18 am

And that is a problem for countries with stable to booming economies like ours, but can you look at an immigrant and tell if they are illegal or not? I know I can't.

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby zoom rader » September 3rd, 2013, 11:18 am

nemisis wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Habit7 wrote:^^as do skilled workers within the CARICOM Single Market and Economy, the only difference is we keep their tax dollars.

Deal with it.

I dont mind skilled workers coming in, the problem is you have illegal immigrants coming in the back door that pay no taxes but want the best of trini social system.
where in the world this does not happen?


Cuba and North Korea

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby Habit7 » September 3rd, 2013, 11:26 am

Communist countries dont have taxes :roll:

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby zoom rader » September 3rd, 2013, 11:28 am

Habit7 wrote:Communist countries dont have taxes :roll:


But dont you think that trini needs the right ppl in and not free loaders?

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby Habit7 » September 3rd, 2013, 11:43 am

Yes I do. But I also think we need less xenophobes like yourself who perceives every CARICOM national as a freeloader.

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby zoom rader » September 4th, 2013, 2:49 am

Habit7 wrote:Yes I do. But I also think we need less xenophobes like yourself who perceives every CARICOM national as a freeloader.


Caricom nationals are freeloaders and it wont be to long before trini falls into immigration paradise with little in return.
Caricom is a failure sure selling kiss cakes and cement is a positive. You need to travel around the other caricom nations and get feel as to what they think of Trinis. I can tell you it is going tobe negative espeacially Barbados and Lately St lucia.
Sure these small islands need support from trini and thats ok but immigration wise there need to be more control as to who comes in. Trinidad is yet to evolve and to futher add new "unskilled imigrants" will put the nation one step behind. As you can see after 50 yrs of laventille and beetham and these ppl cant settle down what you think going to happen when the next wave of unskilled ppl come in.
I dont and many other trinis buy into the free movement of Caricom.

Margaret Thatcher aslo did not buy into freemovent of the euros, and time has proven her right.
Take a look and see what mess the UK is in with immigration which they cant control. Every other Euro nation flocks to the UK and puts a huge strain on it social system and crime. The real British ppl are not happy about this, even the West Indians that migrated in the 1960s are not happy with the Euro nations.
Trinidad is going to be in the same mess as the UK.
To save this nation we need to caricom behind and and stop this immigration madness. Trini is too small for this mess.

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby altec » September 4th, 2013, 5:08 am

somebody in Tobago feels they are indeed another country; saw a few road signs in German. Thought that we had signs in english and spanish only. Next thing would be Hindi and chinese.

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby eliteauto » September 4th, 2013, 8:19 am

altec wrote:somebody in Tobago feels they are indeed another country; saw a few road signs in German. Thought that we had signs in english and spanish only. Next thing would be Hindi and chinese.



Tobago is dealing with the demographic it has in terms of tourism, the signs are an excellent forward thinking idea. With the amt of Indian flea markets and Chinese restaurants and groceries we have here maybe there should be Hindi and Chinese signs in Trinidad

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Re: When did Tobago become a country?

Postby zoom rader » September 4th, 2013, 8:50 am

^^^ Indians ready for bago,
but is bago ready for indians

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