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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby zoom rader » September 5th, 2012, 11:09 am

Hook wrote:^^^ wrong thread, genius

Seems you dont understand the humor

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby Hook » September 5th, 2012, 11:10 am

relevance, zoom rader...relevance

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby Sky » September 5th, 2012, 1:11 pm

Hook, low him nah? His posts excluded "PNM". Thas a ray of sunshine right there.

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby shogun » September 5th, 2012, 4:51 pm

^^
Heh...

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby redmanjp » July 30th, 2013, 5:27 pm

GUILTY! but d fine is only $5000

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Collin-Partap-Guilty---5000-or-nine-months-prison-217604581.html
Collin Partap Guilty - $5000 or nine months prison
By JENSEN LAVENDE jensen.lavende@trinidadexpress.com

Story Created: Jul 30, 2013 at 12:02 PM ECT

Story Updated: Jul 30, 2013 at 12:19 PM ECT
Former Minister in National Security Ministry, and Member of Parliament for Cumuto/Manzanilla, Collin Partap was today found guilty on the charge of failing to submit himself to a Breathalyser test outside the Zen nightclub in Port of Spain last August.

Chief Magistrate Marcia Ayres-Caesar ordered that Partap pay a $5000 fine. Partap was given one week to pay, or spend nine months in prison.

On July 9, the magistrate rejected a no-case submission made by Partap's attorney Israel Khan. She ruled that that the State, represented by attorneys George Busby and Simone Jaggernauth, had made out a prima facie case, and she was satisfied that a conviction might be the result based on the evidence.

Today, the magistrate said that police officers had cause to suspect that Partap had exceeded the limit, and she was satisfied that the State witnesses were credible, reliable and compelling.

She said that the insistence by Partap that his attorney to be present before he gave a breath sample, was not a reasonable excuse for causing the delay.

She said this refusal was equal to failure, and Partap's failure was without reasonable excuse.

Magistrate Ayres-Caesar also mentioned an address in Parliament where the road carnage linked to driving under the influence was discussed.

She said that Partap, being a lawyer, MP and minister, had taken an oath to uphold the law and "to whom much is given, much is expected".

She said that on the night in question, Partap was called upon to display a higher standard than was displayed, according to the State's evidence.

Partap's Ministerial portfolio was taken away by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar within 24 hours of being charged with the offence on August 26 last year.

 
Following the magistrate's over-ruling of the no-case submission on July 9, Khan suggested that Ayres-Caesar train her mind to review the evidence and find beyond reasonable doubt that the evidence is cogent enough to find Partap guilty.

He added that now the task is more difficult since the Chief Magistrate would now have to be morally convinced that the evidence put forward warrants a guilty verdict.

Khan submitted that his client should be freed since the charge he is facing does not exist according to the law, given that the words "for a breath test" was left out. He added that to date no amendment has been made.

Khan re-submitted that if any charges had to be laid against his client the one he is charged with was the wrong one since he delayed taking the test and did not refuse to take the test.

Khan said if his client is found guilty he would want to know the reason for this, adding that the State would also want reasons if the Chief Magistrate was likely to rule in Partap's favour.

Busby said that Partap as an attorney and as a minister knew what he was doing. He added that there are cases which state that
a delay amounts to a refusal in any event so the charge is a proper one.

Busby told Ayers-Ceasar that the wrong message would be sent to the public if Partap is found not guilty since Partap "clearly, willfully and obviously" refused to take the test.

He added that Partap's mind set at the time was that of the local parlance of "going down dying".

"The police could stop anyone, me, you, a minister. You are not allowed to refuse and drive off and go home and kill yourself or someone else," said Busby.

Following the ruling, Khan, who is one of seven prominent attorneys
representing Partap, informed the Chief Magistrate that his client would not be entering the witness box and he would not be calling any witnesses in his defence.

He added that his client would rely on the submissions put forward during the no case submission which she overruled.

Partap is the United National Congress' policy and strategy officer, and the son of former UNC MP Harry Partap, a former Express editor who is now Trinidad and Tobago's High Commissioner to South Africa.

(From the Multimedia Desk)

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby pioneer » July 30th, 2013, 7:42 pm

That's the standard fine...

Some people especially PNM abroad ought to read up the laws of the land.

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby redmanjp » July 30th, 2013, 9:15 pm

^ yeah i know its the law but i just sayin.. is nuttin for him to pay

anyway at least he didn't kill nobody

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby pioneer » July 30th, 2013, 9:46 pm

Why do I get the feeling in T&T the perception of the public is that if you're rich the fine must be higher than that of a "poor" man?

RE: Machel Montano

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » July 31st, 2013, 9:08 am

Partap is one waste ah time,he doh do sheit fuh cumuto manzan....absolutely nothing.

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby pioneer » July 31st, 2013, 9:11 am

It seems the only MP who work is Jack.

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby ronsin1 » July 31st, 2013, 10:13 am

so he was found guilty of an offence is the PM is he going to the do the honorable thing and step down as MP and have another By election

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby pioneer » July 31st, 2013, 10:17 am

ronsin1 wrote:so he was found guilty of an offence is the PM is he going to the do the honorable thing and step down as MP and have another By election


eh?

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby ronsin1 » July 31st, 2013, 10:18 am

^^^ hey I just had to mention it

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby pioneer » July 31st, 2013, 10:23 am

I think you put an extra "is he" after PM, PM should read MP?

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby redmanjp » July 31st, 2013, 10:43 am

pioneer wrote:Why do I get the feeling in T&T the perception of the public is that if you're rich the fine must be higher than that of a "poor" man?

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in machel case he shoulda geh jail not fine- any ordinary man would have gotten that

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby pioneer » July 31st, 2013, 11:10 am

Wha make you say that?

Based on what previous cases/rulings/judgements?

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby hustla_ambition101 » July 31st, 2013, 1:37 pm

pioneer wrote:Wha make you say that?

Based on what previous cases/rulings/judgements?


based on cyaks, people jelly because Machel making money, everyone has the right to defend himself if a wild snorlax appears and throws a drink on them

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby pioneer » July 31st, 2013, 1:40 pm

Thing is Machel offered to settle it outside the court, the idiots refused thinking they would get a bigger settlement via the court

Court ordered a much less payment in damages than what Machel was offering to pay...

How do they feel now?

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby pugboy » July 31st, 2013, 1:47 pm

The victim spent a couple weeks in st Clair which is sure more than what was awarded.
The judge should at least take that into consideration when awarding damages(not penalty)

Auto insurance adjusters not half as bad

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby pioneer » July 31st, 2013, 1:49 pm

They could have gotten free care in the govt hospitals


Nobody force dem to go premium

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby pugboy » July 31st, 2013, 2:22 pm

True and same docs, lol

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby zoom rader » August 1st, 2013, 2:30 am

Seems people forgot that PNM Arnord Piggot was arrested for drunk driving in canada as T&T High Commissioner. After that he was then promoted by the PNM as Foreign Affairs Minister.

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby Richard Marshall » August 1st, 2013, 3:57 am

Politics. Never will vote. To much corruption. No hope for Trinidad and Tobago. So sad to see how it has changed from my childhood.

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby sMASH » August 1st, 2013, 4:09 am

pioneer wrote:They could have gotten free care in the govt hospitals


Nobody force dem to go premium
persons in the government don't even wantvto use public health system even though they are the ones responsible for it...

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby nemisis » August 1st, 2013, 1:27 pm

sMASH wrote:
pioneer wrote:They could have gotten free care in the govt hospitals


Nobody force dem to go premium
persons in the government don't even wantvto use public health system even though they are the ones responsible for it...
This is a scary thing. Would be nice if there was a way to force the minister of health and staff to use public facilities only

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby rspann » August 1st, 2013, 1:36 pm

Does the Min of Health have a vested interest in the health system not working, seeing that he is part owner of a private hospital?

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby MonsterPower » August 1st, 2013, 2:04 pm

dais like telling dem doubles ppple to eat thier own doubles.

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby nemisis » August 1st, 2013, 2:14 pm

MonsterPower wrote:dais like telling dem doubles ppple to eat thier own doubles.
nah more like telling Chinese to eat the menu Chinese food

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Re: Minister Colin Partap Fired with Immediate Effect.

Postby gt4tified » August 19th, 2013, 12:46 pm

redmanjp wrote:
pioneer wrote:Why do I get the feeling in T&T the perception of the public is that if you're rich the fine must be higher than that of a "poor" man?

RE: Machel Montano


in machel case he shoulda geh jail not fine- any ordinary man would have gotten that


Which ordinary man does hire Dana Seetahal, SC as their attorney?

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