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will they ever look outside the box??

Postby UML » December 12th, 2009, 9:48 am

Cox launches war on cellphones in prison
by Ria Taitt Political Editor

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161569165

Saturday, December 12th 2009


Between January 2008 and November 2009, a total of 1,143 cellphones were confiscated in 417 searches in the nation’s prisons, Minister in the Ministry of National Security Donna Cox said yesterday.

’This clearly shows that there is a serious security risk related to cellphones in the nation’s prisons,’ she said as she piloted a motion aimed at amending the prison rules to include ’cellphones and electronic devices’ among the prohibited items.

Government also moved to clamp down on rogue prison officers who ’are playing a major role in facilitating the trafficking of cellphones among the prison population, thereby endangering their colleagues and abdicating their duty to the State and the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago’, she said.

The prison rules- which currently only allow prisons superintendents and other officers of a higher rank to do searches-were also amended to give the power of search to a larger body of officers-some 37 more. Under the current rules, only 14 officers currently have the authority to conduct such searches.

Cox said these measures would certainly ’go a long way in curbing the trafficking of prohibited and unauthorised articles in prison as a wider net will be spread for those who are engaged in such nefarious activities’.

She added: ’More officers being allowed to conduct such searches will undoubtedly mean a greater chance for detecting contraband items and identifying corrupt officers within the service.’

With the amendment the rule, it will now read as follows: ’Every officer or servant of the prison shall submit himself to be searched in prison if called upon to do so by a prison supervisor or any other officer of a higher rank.’

Cox noted there have been occasions where prisons officers have been caught while reporting for duty, attempting to smuggle in cellphones, cellphone charges and other items of contraband. She also stated that gang leaders continue to run their organisations from within the prison walls, utilising cellphones to manage their empires, to execute their rivals, to control and engage in money laundering and to orchestrate the commission of other reprehensible crimes such as kidnappings, extortion, coordination of smuggling, contraband, planning escapes and witness intimidation.

’Cellphones and other electronic devices present a legitimate danger to the lives of officers and members of staff, as well as the public, as threats have been allegedly made and carried out-sometimes with fatal consequences,’ Cox stated, adding that this criminal activity also serves to undermine national security.


use technology...it dey.....its there for us to make use of it.......stop being backward!!!!


why do searches when u can do this instead?!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_jammer

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Postby - Rovin's car audio - » December 12th, 2009, 9:56 am

how d hell all dem phones reach inside - like bmobile & digicel open up a branch in dey or wa !? .... :shock:



brilliant idea on d phone jammer but how dem guards go call dey wife & gyul when they bored at work - they will have to use d land line phone .... :lol:

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Postby UML » December 12th, 2009, 9:58 am

same ting ah now saying.........

Moonilal: Inmates going high-tech in 'VIP offices'
...knocks staff shortages, $m prison transport contract

by Ria Taitt Political Editor

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl ... =161569163

Saturday, December 12th 2009



While criminal gang leaders have secluded themselves ’in VIP offices’ in jail, making cell calls and using internet devices, police officers without weapons are the subject of contract killing, Oropouche MP Roodal Moonilal stated yesterday.

Speaking on a motion to amend the Prison Rules which would, among other things, make cellphones and other devices prohibited items, Moonilal said Government should obtain equipment to block all frequencies.

’That is better than searching everybody pocket...because you can’t search enough, especially when these phones are $100,’ he said.

Moonilal’s contribution was interrupted by the thunderous table-thumping which greeted the entry of his colleague, Kelvin Ramnath.

Ramnath, who had major surgery, had been away from Parliament for several months. Prime Minister Patrick Manning was the first hand to hit the desk when Ramnath walked in.

Ramnath lost no time in giving picong, causing Manning to remark that he had now reached and was giving trouble already.

Continuing his contribution, Moonilal said the technology had moved far beyond cellphones.

’There were devices that operated almost the same like pocket PCs...which have internet capability, and you can be sending internet messages outside without the use of a phone, through a wireless process linked to no local provider but an overseas one,’ he said.

’There is a point at which these devices are so sophisticated that unless you get equipment to trap their frequency level and short-circuit them there, they would continue to be in use (in the prisons).’

Moonilal stated while amending the rules was one positive step, there was a deeper issue of management, which appeared to be the key problem. He said it was not just an issue of searching for cellphones.

’When you find prisons officers with ganja, cellphone and razor blade, it is not just an issue of search but an issue of discipline, of policy, of putting in place systems to monitor rogue elements in the prisons,’ he said.

He quoted a report of the US State Department, Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labour, a report on the National Security sector, dated March 2007.

’The report noted that there was overcrowding, staff shortages and, therefore, the airing out time had to be severely limited.’

He said Government had to address the shortage of staff and should also provide prisons officers with firearms when they leave the prison.

Noting that staff shortages had led to the contracting out of transporting of prisoners, Moonilal said that $98 million to Amalgamated Security for transporting prisoners was ’a very expensive taxi service’. He said Government could use that money to construct a magistrates’ court on the prison compound.

He said while Government was ’stumbling in the right direction, it needed to go many, many steps forward’.

guess d obvious..not so obvious
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Postby ronsin1 » December 12th, 2009, 9:59 am

UML for the next leader of the UNC

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Postby UML » December 12th, 2009, 10:00 am

(...Rovin...) wrote:how d hell all dem phones reach inside - like bmobile & digicel open up a branch in dey or wa !? .... :shock:



brilliant idea on d phone jammer but how dem guards go call dey wife & gyul when they bored at work - they will have to use d land line phone .... :lol:


and dat idea about jamming d signal was mentioned by a SUPPLIER in a letter to the editor of one of the daily newspaper.....yearssssssssssssssss ago eh!!!

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Postby - Rovin's car audio - » December 12th, 2009, 10:04 am

yes i caught d news last night where moonilal was saying something about building a magistrate court on d prison compound so that it wud save millions $ on transport costs & inconvenience to d public who have to suddenly pull out of d way when d prison vans passing & lessen d traffic too ...i never though of that so ITS A BRILLIANT SUGGESTION


will d govt do it ? - i doubt since d person who getting that big contract to transport wont allow it .... :|

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Postby buzz » December 12th, 2009, 10:42 am

man the one eye snake should never look outside the box for too long :|

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Postby kurpal_v2 » December 12th, 2009, 12:02 pm

ronsin1 wrote:UML for the next leader of the UNC



Things ent bad enough?

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Postby UML » May 7th, 2013, 6:25 am

Crackdown on illegal cellphones in prisons coming
By Anna Ramdass

Story Created: May 6, 2013 at 10:23 PM ECT

Story Updated: May 6, 2013 at 11:32 PM ECT
A crackdown is imminent on illegal cellphones in prisons as equipment to block cell signals will be installed at the nation’s jails, Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar disclosed last night.

Persad-Bissessar, speaking at the UNC Monday night forum at Gasparillo said that the National Security Council which she leads, will implement mobile phone signal jammers—a technology which can find phones and block calls as well as text messages from unapproved numbers within the prisons.

The Prime Minister said a young man told her that he received a phone call and after ten minutes into the conversation he realised he was speaking with a man who was in Golden Grove Prison on a gun possession charge. The man told him to send him a $20 phone card.

“It was not the first time I heard such a story but I told myself then, that enough is enough,” she said adding that the matter was immediately researched.

She reminded the crowd that in 2008, former national security minister Martin Joseph had told the Senate that there was an unprecedented amount of illegal cellphones being smuggled into the prisons—with some 1184 cellphones smuggled over a six year period.

Joseph, she said, blamed prison officers for the PNM inaction.

“These criminals are continuing to run their organisations from inside the jail by obstructing police investigations, and ‘calling shots on witnesses’, as the criminals like to say,” she said.

Persad-Bissessar said the solution to this problem was being implemented and gave the assurance it would soon end.

This measure, she said, was one of many in her Government’s war against crime.

Crime, she said, remains a high priority and the results were evident.
Persad-Bissessar said there has been a 36 per cent reduction in serious crimes in the first four months of 2013, compared to last year.

She said that in the first four months 2012 there were over 6000 cases of serious crimes in Trinidad and Tobago.

This figure, she said, has so far fallen to under 4000 in 2013 according to the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service report to the National Security Council, 1 May 2013.

She said that burglaries and break-ins, robberies and general larceny constitute 68 per cent of these serious crimes.


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Re: will they ever look outside the box??

Postby pugboy » May 7th, 2013, 6:29 am

who getting the contract to supply this equipment ?

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Postby pete » May 7th, 2013, 7:22 am

4 years later?

Geez

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Re: will they ever look outside the box??

Postby Habit7 » May 7th, 2013, 7:41 am

I thought this was in place already? I used to live in Arouca near the prison and it is widely known that cellphone reception is poor because of jammers in the prison. AFAIK :?

Noting that staff shortages had led to the contracting out of transporting of prisoners, Moonilal said that $98 million to Amalgamated Security for transporting prisoners was ’a very expensive taxi service’. He said Government could use that money to construct a magistrates’ court on the prison compound.

I wonder how much it is now....

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Postby DFC » May 7th, 2013, 7:58 am

some of them prisoners have SIV with unlimited 4g dan.

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Postby hustla_ambition101 » May 7th, 2013, 8:15 am

Jammers in the jail long time, Kamla taking anally as usual to appeal to the illiterate masses

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Postby Trini Hookah » May 7th, 2013, 8:46 am

hustla_ambition101 wrote:Jammers in the jail long time, Kamla taking anally as usual to appeal to the illiterate masses

Orly?

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Postby hustla_ambition101 » May 7th, 2013, 8:52 am

Trini Hookah wrote:
hustla_ambition101 wrote:Jammers in the jail long time, Kamla taking anally as usual to appeal to the illiterate masses

Orly?


Yes

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Postby DrunkenMaster16 » May 7th, 2013, 9:01 am

Guess only some prison's... got 2 calls and heard of many more from someone who spent a short time in there this year.

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Postby hustla_ambition101 » May 7th, 2013, 9:08 am

You people do know electronic equipment can be turned on and off right. The same way cameras on the highway stop working is the same way the jammers stop working

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Postby ADONI » May 7th, 2013, 9:13 am

Them prisoners real skilled, heard they does hide the phone in the mop and thing.

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Postby toybago » May 7th, 2013, 1:16 pm

hustla_ambition101 wrote:You people do know electronic equipment can be turned on and off right. The same way cameras on the highway stop working is the same way the jammers stop working



nah dan dem ting wukkin on flux capacitors so they'll be on for ever and ever...trust in the government of the day to end all crime....

same way how all metal detectors and cctv cams in t&t working right?....

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Postby shufflin' » May 7th, 2013, 3:20 pm

ronsin1 wrote:UML for the next leader of the UNC



brb UML head just got bigger :|

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Postby hustla_ambition101 » May 7th, 2013, 3:46 pm

shufflin' wrote:
ronsin1 wrote:UML for the next leader of the UNC



brb UML head just got bigger :|


same tiny brain though

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Postby Country_Bookie » May 7th, 2013, 3:53 pm

Habit7 wrote:I thought this was in place already? I used to live in Arouca near the prison and it is widely known that cellphone reception is poor because of jammers in the prison. AFAIK :?

Noting that staff shortages had led to the contracting out of transporting of prisoners, Moonilal said that $98 million to Amalgamated Security for transporting prisoners was ’a very expensive taxi service’. He said Government could use that money to construct a magistrates’ court on the prison compound.

I wonder how much it is now....



As we've seen from a couple recent accidents, they sometimes use an armoured truck with 2 police vehicles to transport 1 or 2 prisoners. Unless the prisoner is a supervillian, isn't this overkill?

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Postby shogun » May 7th, 2013, 4:03 pm

hustla_ambition101 wrote:
shufflin' wrote:
ronsin1 wrote:UML for the next leader of the UNC



brb UML head just got bigger :|


same tiny brain though


:lol:

Cold blooded yo

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Postby rfari » May 7th, 2013, 4:04 pm

hustla_ambition101 wrote:
shufflin' wrote:
ronsin1 wrote:UML for the next leader of the UNC



brb UML head just got bigger :|


same tiny brain though

*DEDZ*

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Postby pioneer » May 7th, 2013, 6:44 pm

wha bout a jammer to jam the jammer?

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Postby Trini Hookah » May 7th, 2013, 6:51 pm

pioneer wrote:wha bout a jammer to jam the jammer?

What about a jammer to jam that one

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Postby ar05ant » May 7th, 2013, 9:15 pm

Trini Hookah wrote:
pioneer wrote:wha bout a jammer to jam the jammer?

What about a jammer to jam that one
then at any given point on time a Jammer will be functional:roll:

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Postby pioneer » May 7th, 2013, 11:44 pm

No, put a jammer to jam the jammer that jammin the jammer.

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Postby toybago » May 8th, 2013, 1:36 am

plenty jammin going on thurrrr....

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