Why wasnt Sheldon Bissessar nomiated by TTASA for FCB sports

[Alpha_2nr]

^neither does shooting (roger daniel)

True.

I think the comment should be that autosport isn't really considered as "highly" as other sports in Trinidad

Most likely due to the bad stigma "drags" get from the media.

[AutoSport]

“this is allyuh fellas play ground, allyuh have to try to get in and take it over, and make it respectable. infiltrate the ranks, then influence them to be fair, and eliminate who ever not being honorable.”

Obviously you have just landed from Mars.

Tried that years ago, and still cannot get around “the built-in safety net” in the constitution.

So throwing off the kids gloves treatment, and stating the facts as they are, we now have to get around the lies, deceit and disgraceful fabrications that they are trying to perpetrate on the SUSPECTING motorsport public.

If one could have taped the many and contradicting responses given by this very “creative group”, they would make the story-line of a Harry Potter script read like triple fiction.

Best of all is the confession of their selected nominee, who is so disdainful of his 2010 performance, not even a podium finish, that “he prefers not to even talk about it”; but we will, at some time, see what was submitted on his behalf by the very proud NSO.

And then the World will be able to compare this nominee’s performance to what Sheldon actually did.

He should be able to hold his head high and proud when he attends the Awards function in the full glare of the media and viewing public.

[Aaron 2NR]

does sheldon bissessar spend most of his time here or in 'merica?
next ting he turn to be the vidya naipaul of autosport.

daniel doesnt race in trinidad either....

This action by TTASA proves why motorsport in trinidad is where it is today....Sheldon again congrats on your many accomplishments in 2010! Sad to see when they needed help with prep for camen,since they had no money, PSTL came forward....
Sheldon continue to fly the Trini Flag high...a little award won't take away anything from your team and talent.....

I will reserve my other comments but SR i gave you the run down on my recent run in with TTASA....

[swag]

Agreed Aaron and autosport, you beat me to it as I have also heard the exact regarding the nominee and the excuses.

What truly is incredible is that no one from TTASA has attempted to give any sort of explanation to this and satisfy everyone by answering the questions asked. What is just as amazing is that in times like this when the desire to find a way to make everyone happy and work together for the love of motorsport and solve the issue of getting/building a home for all motorsports, TTASA continues to function the same way they always have, self serving and not in the best interest of the sport.

How in the world do they ever, ever expect to gain the trust by anyone!

[Saleem786]

what makes u think they care about your trust? They have government recognition.
Sheldon is not their "best friend" so he doesnt qualify for nomination end of story.

[swag]

Saleem786, it really doesnt matter if they care about my trust rather the trust of the people they are supposed to serve and as far as I am aware, that is all of us. Sheldon not being there "best friend" has absolutely nothing to do with his success for 2010 and the subject matter.

Actually, if the reason they have not nominated Sheldon is because he is not their "best friend", and I dont know if that is actually so as I know he has guided them in the best interest of the sport many, many times, then, how and why should they be the recognized body for Motorsport?

[AutoSport]

Did we not see that snowmobile, on the front page of today's Express running at the SFGP?

[SR]

wait

yuh serious


who is the owner

[swag]

Amazing how not one associate of TTASA has posted a singe comment or maybe its not, its just same old, same old. No wonder motorsport in our country is where it is.

[Saleem786]

the lack of a response blatently says that the TTASA officials know that they have no good reasons for their actions and they cannot in any way defend what they did or did not do and u can say what u want but you wud never get any response from them.
When someone else who is sensible and actually cares about motorsport in TT comes along and starts off something they will slowly show that they can bring motorsport forward and TTASA wud be a thing of the past... Its all a matter of time. There are many ppl who are capable of doing such, they just need a little motivation... As i said its jsut a matter of time.

[SR]

anybody see todays's express pg 67

[SR]

Page 55 in todays express for the TTASA officials who may have eye problems

entire page this time

yet no comments from the ttasa boys who browse this forum hidden

[NarendZORCE]

So here are a few facts regarding the drivers:

Sheldon Bissessar:
– reset the IHRA World Record for Top Dragster 1/4 mile run 3 times: 5.80, 5.79, 5.78
– ran his personal best at an NHRA-certified track 5.73, faster than the IHRA WR but this run was not at an IHRA meet.
- The NHRA is now in charge of FIA's Drag Racing Arm and works with the FIA in this way.
– Entered 6 events, won the Elite 8 Category in 5, qualified number 1 in ALL for Top Dragster entries.
- Is sponsored by METHANEX, TOTAL LUBRICANTS, VP RACING FUELS, IRONMAN CHASSIS, PSTL and others

Daniel Ramoutarsingh:
– Entered 4 or 5 events
– Was close to the podium with several good finishes
– Had problems all year with his car which cost him podium finishes, resulting in him leaving Rocket Sports Racing (RSR) and going to a new team since.
– Will return in 2011 with a refreshed car and a new racing team
- Is sponsored by TRINRICO

Ravi Singh:
- Entered Three Championship events for 2010
– Champion Driver Grp 3 2009/2010 Guyana
– Champion Driver of the Day for Int'l meet in November 2010 Guyana
- Is looking for sponsorship

[NarendZORCE]

Here are a few facts regarding the Sportsman of the Year Award, currently title sponsored by First Citizens Bank, FCB, previously sponsored by WITCO.

– TTASA is allowed two nominations.
– TTRC is allowed two nominations.
- TTKA was allowed in the past to nominate but currently are not.

The two nominations are usually one for male, one for female entrants.

FCB is in the business of banking. They depend on a committee/team/panel to run the awards who in turn depend on each National Sporting Organisation or recognised group to nominate their entrants/competitors who have performed at the highest level for the year.

[noshownogo]

This may have been brought up before, but what does it take to establish a second Motor Sport body, one recognized by the government, participants and fans alike? Can said body oust the current if recognition, support and funding follows?

[NarendZORCE]

Here are a few other facts to consider:

According to TTASA to nominate they need entry forms filled and supporting documents on time. They also need proof of performance or verification.

TTASA nominated Ravi Singh for the FIA/NACAM Race of the Americas Award.

TTASA submitted two entries for the FCB Awards:
Daniel Ramoutarsingh - Circuit Racing
Sheldon Bissessar - Drag Racing

TTASA is in the process of convincing the FCB committee that Drag Racing should be recognised as an additional category. It was not agreed on at the time of nomination.

[sMASH]

like dey got choc'late alleyne to nominate people,

[NarendZORCE]

Responses by TTASA given so far regarding each driver:

Ravi Singh
"Ravi was nominated for the FIA NACAM Regional Race of the Americas Award, so we felt it fair to give Daniel a chance at the smaller award, FCB Sportsman of the Year."
"We contacted Ravi for him to submit information on time for the FCB Award but by the time he came back to Trinidad it was too late."

Daniel Ramoutarsingh
"We were under the impression that Daniel performed well, that he won plenty races. We will have to consult with him to verify his actual performance and re-check his information"

Sheldon Bissessar
"Sheldon did not submit all his information on time"
"Sheldon did not inform us of his last racing trip so that we could have the representatives from ACCUS verify that the track is actually a quarter-mile long and verify that the timing system is working properly"
"Sheldon did not conform to all the FIA regulations, please contact Bunny Persad for further clarification on how exactly Sheldon is not in compliance"
"Sheldon really deserves the award based on his performance but if his information is not in order he will not be recognised"
"We are working towards FCB recognising our nomination of Sheldon Bissessar as the sportsman for Drag Racing"

[out of control]

we need to talk to Ian on crime watch to find out how we could stop them sports bandit from destroying motor sport in Trinidad & Tobago

[sMASH]

if they used to read chunna news, they would have known what was goin on in the autosport world.
but dem fellas eh interested, dey jus not interested.

[out of control]

last night meeting TTASA panty man try to explain the FCB AWARD to d........ he read out sheldon profile and wins which was about 5 pages when ask to read d..... one they left it home now d had no wins for 2010 ravi had 6 and he was not pick , they never answer and that there explanation

[NarendZORCE]

Here's some opinion now:
• TTASA should have had Ravi's information in order to nominate him for the Race of the Americas Award
• Daniel had a tough year and despite his tremendous efforts, Ravi has more to show in the field of circuit racing for 2010.
• Sheldon was the top performer for Drag Racing and evidently for Motorsport overall with the largest share of achievements
• TTASA's best option at this time is to have Drag Racing recognised by the FCB committee
• The FCB Sportsman of the year award is a national award given to our top performers. Performance should be the main criteria.
• If a nominee is under consideration, all efforts should be made to acquire and submit the relevant information given that fact that the nominees have performed and achieved.
• Nominees need to be informed in good time and also keep communication active to secure their nomination.

And a few facts to do with Sheldon and Drag Racing:
• Bunny Persad, FIA representative for the Caribbean has extended an invitation to Sheldon for talks on FIA certification/compliance and Sheldon has indicated that he is willing to meet.
• IHRA's regulations were formulated using NHRA's regulations.
• In the Top Dragster category, IHRA allows the car to run all-out once they meet safety regulations
• NHRA restricts the Top Dragster class to a fastest time of 6.00 seconds
• The Bradenton Motorsports Park, where Sheldon ran his 5.73 time is an NHRA recognised/certified track.
• TTASA indicated to Sheldon that he was under consideration and Sheldon called repeatedly to follow up and was assured that all documents were in order.

[out of control]

they even say that in one month they will be the only NSO boy i laugh they still sleeping yes

[rcadiz]

After reading the facts from Narend i can't help but ask TTASA to respond to the following questions:
1 - Sheldon's efforts have been well publicized for 2010 after each meet - surely TTASA would have known way in advance that the credibility of his records would have been an issue for them when coming to this award (FIA compliant etc). Why wait until the eve of the award and after the nomination to 'seek clarification' on the legitimacy of the racing. Its not like he was racing in Alaska - the facts concerning the tracks and the awards are very easy to research. TTASA should have been doing their homework all along, furthermore why ask Sheldon to submit his information if this would have been an issue?

2 - Is the FIA 1/4 mile a different length to the IHRA 1/4 mile - The facts are that Sheldon raced in the US and he won fair and square against top competition. I wonder if we had racing locally in Wallerfield or otherwise (i.e. on an old airstrip - NOT FIA anything) that a nominee for top dragster would make it to the FCB awards. It appears that the FIA sanctioning of racing is a convenient excuse. The thing is that every event TTASA has done seems to be under this 'FIA compliant umbrella' - surely if our local drag racing or circuit racing was good enough in the past to be considered for the FCB nomination then

3 - From TTASA's response with Daniel it seems someone assumed he did a whole lot more than he did. No offense to Daniel but clearly 2010 was not his best year. Not taking anything away from Daniel as a driver - he has done very well for himself in previous years but its obvious Sheldon has more to show in 2010. Surely if TTASA submitted 2 names they would have told FCB that if there was only going to be one name taken at the end then the priority is Sheldon over Daniel. This is simply common sense. And its not like they didn't have time to reverse the name.

4 - Ravi went up to the FIA awards for Circuit - how come Daniel didn''t go? - Well i was told by a high ranking TTASA official that the nominees for the FIA awards in Panama were taken from the winners of the San Fernando Gran Prix - an exhibition event. Hence why Ansel Ali was the nomination for Rally (and not any other Rally winner based on ACTUAL rallying). We have one of the top Rally Drivers in the Region in our country - John Powell - who was not considered for the Rally Award because he did not take part in an exhibition Circuit Race. If that was the criteria for the FIA regional award nomination then Gerrard Carrington should have been the Circuit award for the FIA Regional Awards. Daniel did not compete at the SFGP, and it seems like Ravi had more podiums than Daniel so if the award is based on excellence then it seems like the vote for FCB nominee should have gone in the following priority:
First - Sheldon
Second - Ravi
Third - Daniel

At the end of the day it seems like everywhere you turn there is a different answer from a different official for the same issue. I certainly don't understand why certain things aren't done in a fair and transparent way. If the mass public can see the errors then why is so hard for TTASA to do things the right way.

TTASA i can honestly say to you that you have not instilled any confidence in the greater motorsporting community with these decisions based on a lot of contradictory reasoning. Hopefully there will be some official response from soon to come clean on all of this.

Does anyone know if Link's computer is not working or if he has not seen this forum. I do wonder has he his usually very vocal on these types of issues. Not to mention i am sure he has first hand knowledge of the FCB awards being a TTASA VP.

[SR]

i am sure the ttasa officials are browsing and printing the comments made for thier records
but they will not respond


as for link.....................hopefully he has gotten smater now and realised what ttasa really stands for

[AutoSport]

Mr. Cadiz, The only problem I have with all of your explanations… they are too straight-forward, too factual, too much to the point, that is why we are getting nowhere for the dumb and the dumber to understand.

And this seems to be the problem we are having. Everyone is asking simple straightforward questions and they are getting a multitude of irrelevant responses.

It is sad that the year when Motor Sport could have been the ones shouting to the high heavens about the successes of our performers, everybody will get lick up.

Look at this…..

I understand the Bridget Singh of karting was selected by TTASA as the female nominee, and then dropped, Ravi can confirm, (so that they could select two MALE nominees) – so Bridget loses out.

Daniel is chosen, poor fella, this is possibly a big embarrassment to him, especially when others have spoken to him and he admits that he does not care to speak about his 2010 performances.

Sheldon should have been the automatic choice, and possibly been the outright winner – he got blanked.

MOTORSPORT LOSES ALL AROUND. WHY?

How long will the MSYA permit this nonsense to continue?

[swag]

Does anyone know if MYSA had anything to say? Surely they cant sit and just watch this and not act as TTASA must be held accountable

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ would be interesting to get their input

[Rallypeong]

Geh dem out!!

[16 cycles]

FCB is in the business of banking. They depend on a committee/team/panel to run the awards who in turn depend on each National Sporting Organisation or recognised group to nominate their entrants/competitors who have performed at the highest level for the year.

the "their" refers to members belonging to the respective organizations or anyone deserving of the award???

asking cause how it worded....could imply that the body is obligated to nominate from their member list rather than from a wider spectrum of candidates in the same genre of racing...