Proposal to Cut Down Traffic Accidents

[aidan]

If you think about it, say you going 130-140 km...and a police car start to give chase.....you might as well try to lose them, (since is the same fine for 125km/h and over) and get away and go home, then call in and report the car was stolen and you were tied up and now got free.

rofl.

[Sky]

Bluefete. 170+ pages in your thread and this is by far the dumbest thing you ever said. I'm Sorry.

Bribery will skyrocket. If those laws ever come to past I gonna be a police. With my subjects I could be 2 police. Cjruckus said it best there. Bluefete where you getting 25k in a day? are you a Pastor?

[Chimera]

Bluefete where you getting 25k in a day?

[brams112]

nice blue,,,but we have fine's for driving under the influence still we have a lot of car's by bars on a daily basis,some people are not afraid of the laws in this land because it is barely inforced

[Xplode]

What about the sholder driver's

[bluefete]

Bluefete. 170+ pages in your thread and this is by far the dumbest thing you ever said. I'm Sorry.

Bribery will skyrocket. If those laws ever come to past I gonna be a police. With my subjects I could be 2 police. Cjruckus said it best there. Bluefete where you getting 25k in a day? are you a Pastor?

I will not be driving that fast to incur a $25K fine.

We must put systems in place to also deal with the bribery and offer straight jail time for the people involved (police included).

So typical of someone to think about the bribery aspect. Sad because it speaks to something that is so inbred/endemic in our society.

[bluefete]

nice blue,,,but we have fine's for driving under the influence still we have a lot of car's by bars on a daily basis,some people are not afraid of the laws in this land because it is barely inforced

People have to do their jobs.

We can hire temporary officers (on contract) to police major fetes / bars and so on. just saying

The fines we currently have are not strong enough to deter prople from drinking & driving because they feel that there is a slim chance of getting caught.

That is why the fines must be stiff enough so that people will think twice or three times before breaking the laws.

Enforcement is a must.

[buzz]

bluefete you live in a bubble

to think after getting an epic catholicking in that god thread of yours you have the balls to come with another stupid ideal to get flamed again

you really are a glutton for punishment

[bluefete]

What about the shoulder driver's

$50,000.00 fine payable within one day. Immediate suspension of dp for 5 years and 5 years jail if caught driving during the period.

[buzz]

nice blue,,,but we have fine's for driving under the influence still we have a lot of car's by bars on a daily basis,some people are not afraid of the laws in this land because it is barely inforced

People have to do their jobs.

We can hire temporary officers (on contract) to police major fetes / bars and so on. just saying

The fines we currently have are not strong enough to deter prople from drinking & driving because they feel that there is a slim chance of getting caught.

That is why the fines must be stiff enough so that people will think twice or three times before breaking the laws.

Enforcement is a must.

confirmed

[bluefete]

bluefete you live in a bubble

to think after getting an epic catholicking in that god thread of yours you have the balls to come with another stupid ideal to get flamed again

you really are a glutton for punishment

You see Buzz, all we need is a gov't with the cojones to enforce these draconian measures then we will see who is living in a bubble.

BTW - Which is more precious? The life of your child (if you have any) or the life or the nitwit behind the wheel doing 170 km/h coming at you over the median from the opposite lane?

[bluefete]

nice blue,,,but we have fine's for driving under the influence still we have a lot of car's by bars on a daily basis,some people are not afraid of the laws in this land because it is barely inforced

People have to do their jobs.

We can hire temporary officers (on contract) to police major fetes / bars and so on. just saying

The fines we currently have are not strong enough to deter prople from drinking & driving because they feel that there is a slim chance of getting caught.

That is why the fines must be stiff enough so that people will think twice or three times before breaking the laws.

Enforcement is a must.

confirmed

I forgive you. I am the child of a King who is NOT a dumbass; therefore that does not make me a dumb-ass. Neither does that make you one. Even though you may think you are one.

[M_2NR]

You can put a million dollar fines but unless you change the attitude of the people AND ensure proper policing of the laws we have, nothing will be accomplished.

[buzz]

You can put a million dollar fines but unless you change the attitude of the people AND ensure proper policing of the laws we have, nothing will be accomplished.

common sense is not allowed here

you should ban yourself forthwith

[Rory Phoulorie]

bluefete, while your intent may be good, your proposed execution is not since those fines are impractical.

All we need is constant enforcement of the laws by the entire judicial system (from the TTPS right up to expediency in the courts).

The TTPS also need to raise the standards of who they accept into the Police Service. I have read too many accounts on this website where the Police write wrong information on the tickets they issue.

Perhaps, they should also introduce the points penalty system where your driving privileges are suspended/terminated based on the laws that are broken over a specific period.

[Chimera]

BTW - Which is more precious? The life of your child (if you have any) or the life or the nitwit behind the wheel doing 170 km/h coming at you over the median from the opposite lane?

But God's plan was for that nitwit to fly across the median and hit your child, not so?

[buzz]

I forgive you. I am the child of a King who is NOT a dumbass; therefore that does not make me a dumb-ass. Neither does that make you one. Even though you may think you are one.

yuh get some stripes fuh not getting emo

but your comprehension of the situation at hand is still whack

[buzz]

BTW - Which is more precious? The life of your child (if you have any) or the life or the nitwit behind the wheel doing 170 km/h coming at you over the median from the opposite lane?

But God's plan was for that nitwit to fly across the median and hit your child, not so?

oh gorm man, allyuh nuh easy unno

[bluefete]

You can put a million dollar fines but unless you change the attitude of the people AND ensure proper policing of the laws we have, nothing will be accomplished.

common sense is not allowed here

you should ban yourself forthwith

And that starts in the home changing attitudes not banning yourself ). But given the MASSIVE failure of so many parents to teach their children the basics, it is left up to the state to change the attitude/mindset of these same children starting in kindergarten.

People must do their jobs or be terminated. Thus if the police don't want to enforce the laws, we must find people who can.

[bluefete]

bluefete, while your intent may be good, your proposed execution is not since those fines are impractical.

All we need is constant enforcement of the laws by the entire judicial system (from the TTPS right up to expediency in the courts).

The TTPS also need to raise the standards of who they accept into the Police Service. I have read too many accounts on this website where the Police write wrong information on the tickets they issue.

Perhaps, they should also introduce the points penalty system where your driving privileges are suspended/terminated based on the laws that are broken over a specific period.

CJRuckus made a similar comment earlier. Would this cause a driver to think twice before doing stupidness behind the wheel? If you have to get to 3 strikes, how many accidents would you cause by then or how many people would you damage by then?

I agree with you that enforcement across the entire strata is a must.

[bluefete]

BTW - Which is more precious? The life of your child (if you have any) or the life or the nitwit behind the wheel doing 170 km/h coming at you over the median from the opposite lane?

But God's plan was for that nitwit to fly across the median and hit your child, not so?

And that is why we must try and prevent the nitwit from coming across the median at 170 km/h to hit your child.

[bluefete]

I forgive you. I am the child of a King who is NOT a dumbass; therefore that does not make me a dumb-ass. Neither does that make you one. Even though you may think you are one.

yuh get some stripes fuh not getting emo After 170 pgs of licks, the last thing on my mind is getting emo.

but your comprehension of the situation at hand is still whack

How come it can work in "foreign" but we must always look for excuses why it cannot work in T&T?

[buzz]

You can put a million dollar fines but unless you change the attitude of the people AND ensure proper policing of the laws we have, nothing will be accomplished.

common sense is not allowed here

you should ban yourself forthwith

And that starts in the home changing attitudes.

Agreed

But given the MASSIVE failure of so many parents to teach their children the basics,
Also Agreed

it is left up to the state to change the attitude/mindset of these same children starting in kindergarten.

Now here is problem, the "sate" has in its employ the same children that lacked the upbringing you speak of

People must do their jobs or be terminated.

Agreed

Thus if the police don't want to enforce the laws, we must find people who can.

erm... who then ?

[Chimera]

BTW - Which is more precious? The life of your child (if you have any) or the life or the nitwit behind the wheel doing 170 km/h coming at you over the median from the opposite lane?

But God's plan was for that nitwit to fly across the median and hit your child, not so?

And that is why we must try and prevent the nitwit from coming across the median at 170 km/h to hit your child.

So you trying to stop God's plan from taking effect? You sir are doing the work of the Devil.

[buzz]

I forgive you. I am the child of a King who is NOT a dumbass; therefore that does not make me a dumb-ass. Neither does that make you one. Even though you may think you are one.

yuh get some stripes fuh not getting emo After 170 pgs of licks, the last thing on my mind is getting emo.

but your comprehension of the situation at hand is still whack

How come it can work in "foreign" but we must always look for excuses why it cannot work in T&T?

strange how the fines in "foreign" aren't that ridiculously high and it still works huh ?

there is enforcement for one...

and they don't let any tom dick and harry in the force

the list continues

[Rory Phoulorie]

bluefete, let's use your traffic light breaker penalty as an example of the impracticality of your proposed solution.

Suppose you are travelling down the highway at 80km/h and the traffic signal turns amber when you are 10m away from it. You determine that it is unsafe to stop in short a such distance and you go through the intersection BEFORE the light turns red. For the uninformed, you are supposed to STOP on the amber light once it is safe to do so.

Suppose you bull the blonde injun gyul from Gasparillo and her policeman boyfriend saw you go through the amber signal at the intersection. As part of his revenge against you, he determined that it was safe for you to stop at the interection in the 10m distance from a speed of 80km/h. He issues a ticket against you for the infraction and, surprisingly the STD he got from the blonde injun gyul, didn't affect any of his faculties and he wrote the ticket up properly.

What are you supposed to do? Pay the penalty in one day? The law on the amber signal is subjective. He determined you could have stopped, you determined that it was not safe to do so.

[bluefete]

You can put a million dollar fines but unless you change the attitude of the people AND ensure proper policing of the laws we have, nothing will be accomplished.

common sense is not allowed here

you should ban yourself forthwith

And that starts in the home changing attitudes.

Agreed

But given the MASSIVE failure of so many parents to teach their children the basics,
Also Agreed

it is left up to the state to change the attitude/mindset of these same children starting in kindergarten.

Now here is problem, the "sate" has in its employ the same children that lacked the upbringing you speak of

People must do their jobs or be terminated.

Agreed

Thus if the police don't want to enforce the laws, we must find people who can.

erm... who then ?

Changing attitudes does not happen overnight. But it can be done if people are strong-willed enough.

This morning a young boy came out of a toyota to buy some doubles. He took the doubles to his car ate them then threw the paper right onto the roadway. If that is the mindset of the majority of people who live in T&T today, we have a long way to go to change the attitudes.

However, if there was a littering fine of $20,000.00, and enforcement was swift. He would either have found a bin or put the paper in the car until.

But, again, with the right political will, it can be done.

[bluefete]

I forgive you. I am the child of a King who is NOT a dumbass; therefore that does not make me a dumb-ass. Neither does that make you one. Even though you may think you are one.

yuh get some stripes fuh not getting emo After 170 pgs of licks, the last thing on my mind is getting emo.

but your comprehension of the situation at hand is still whack

How come it can work in "foreign" but we must always look for excuses why it cannot work in T&T?

strange how the fines in "foreign" aren't that ridiculously high and it still works huh ?

there is enforcement for one...

and they don't let any tom dick and harry in the force

the list continues

Enforcement and attitude.

The police do their work in foreign. For many years and up until about 4 years ago, one did not need any set of passes to become a police officer. That is why we are so backward now in detection and prevention.

However, to be fair, I have noticed that since the PP came into office, the police are moving with alacrity to crime reports, especially kidnappings. And they seem to be having much success.

Unfortunately, after all that work, some schnit stick lawyer comes along and gets the criminals back onto the streets.

[SR]

increase highway speed limit to 70mph

[bluefete]

bluefete, let's use your traffic light breaker penalty as an example of the impracticality of your proposed solution.

Suppose you are travelling down the highway at 80km/h and the traffic signal turns amber when you are 10m away from it. You determine that it is unsafe to stop in short a such distance and you go through the intersection BEFORE the light turns red. For the uninformed, you are supposed to STOP on the amber light once it is safe to do so.

Suppose you bull the blonde injun gyul from Gasparillo and her policeman boyfriend saw you go through the amber signal at the intersection. As part of his revenge against you, he determined that it was safe for you to stop at the interection in the 10m distance from a speed of 80km/h. He issues a ticket against you for the infraction and, surprisingly the STD he got from the blonde injun gyul, didn't affect any of his faculties and he wrote the ticket up properly.

What are you supposed to do? Pay the penalty in one day? The law on the amber signal is subjective. He determined you could have stopped, you determined that it was not safe to do so.

The law must be amended to remove any doubt. It is either you stop on the amber or go through. One or the other. Not both.

So, as it stands now, 10 metres and light changes to amber, mash brakes!!