The Religion Discussion

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

one person sees a movie...nice special effects...leaves with thoughts of how wrong it is/was to enslave other races....

another sees the same movie and sees pornographic symbolism....

intriguing at one's perception of events...

they also saw an industry that promotes wrong doing, making movies glorifying demons, satanic practices and anti-christian content.

I don't know why he just didnt go and see something for smaller minds like Cats & Dogs 2 instead.. oh wait.. nevermind.

Hey bluefete, megadoc1's group is very powerful; you should contact them so that they can eradicate all of Hollywood and the satanic content they produce. I am sure his group can do this easily.

[d spike]

I don't know why he just didnt go and see something for smaller minds like Cats & Dogs 2 instead
Have you lost your marbles??? You want that good christian boy to go and see that expression of shamanism... animals talking like people, that's downright demonic...
... the coarse, vulgar, sexual overtones (cats represent the wild female side, dogs represent the virile, oversexed male - everyone KNOWS that)... and they're all NAKED!!!

.. oh wait.. nevermind.
Quite right! You wouldn't want your boy to be overcome and swallowed up by worldly thoughts, now would you?
You would then be forced to ask Megadoc to go and exorcise him...

[buzz]

add to that lord of teh rings, harry pot head erm lada gaga ?

[bluefete]

bluefete HOW is a Navi an animal or even a DEMON??

sounds just like the white man during the slave trade when they saw the black man as animals.

it is the HEIGHT of ignorance to fear and belittle what you don't understand.

Hollywood has done its work well on you.

We need to pray for discernment so that we can understand the messages both direct & subliminal being sent to us.

[bluefete]

The Jesus you know so well used high symbolism at the time

And how do you know that the 7 days of creation and the age of the earth (which you calculated to be 6000yrs old) is not also symbolism?

Because we are told that with God (for us humans) 1 day = 1,000 years.

Jesus himself sometimes spoke directly and sometimes in parables. When he spoke in parables, he sometimes gave the meaning. Not always, though.

[bluefete]

Its job is to convince us that what is wrong is right and what is right is wrong.

It takes a strong mind to understand that

Your mind is not even strong enough to realize it's just a movie!

But in true hypocritical style you will continue to watch movies produced by Hollywood.

Just like megadoc takes medication even though he can heal people through Christ.

~Sighs~: How else can I understand the Hollywood agenda. By guess? Remember I stated that if I had known what Avatar was about I would not have gone to see it.

Luke was a physician. Yet he attested to Jesus' miracles. Paul told Timothy to "take a little wine for your stomach".

Avatar was NOT just a movie. There are many themes which directly and indirectly impact this movie. You know that better than most.

You also know that better than most for many Hollywood movies.

[bluefete]

Hollywood is the new morality for today.
Its job is to convince us that what is wrong is right and what is right is wrong.
It takes a strong mind to understand that and to see it in the movies put out for human consumption.

St. John Chrysostom said to not look for demons everywhere, but where you find them, step on them.
You are seeing hobgoblins under every stone.
While I agree that quite often the 'silver screen' plays a major role in the growing materialism of today's world, there are times it surprises you and produces something that uplifts... 'Avatar' was one such uplifting movie, with Christian themes such as the inherent beauty and goodness of nature, the importance of doing right, the wondrous thing that is love, the beauty and honour of loyalty, friendship and sacrifice.
The only job Hollywood has, is to make money.

Get a life.

Agreed. But Hollywood's job is to also inculcate the themes of American Imperialism, Culturalism, Superiority, and so on. While making ton loads of money, of course.

"We are the big, bad, good wolves" - is a major theme in many movies.

While Avatar may indeed have some of the themes you mentioned above. what lay underneath was much darker.

I was not looking for demons in Avatar. It just jumped out at me. Like a jumbie.

[bluefete]

So wasn't this demon possession? He did take over / was placed into the body of another Navi.
No, it wasn't 'demon possession. (Despite the behaviour of many of my ex-in-laws, humans are not demons ) Didn't they 'build/create' the alien bodies that the humans operated? You must have had a sorry childhood... seeing monsters and evil things everywhere

Reminds me of a prayer that actually was printed in an old Scottish prayer-book:
From ghoulies and ghosties
and long-leggedy beasties
and things that go 'bump' in the night,
Good Lord deliver us!

There are so many dimensions to this Avatar movie. I stand by my statement.
Yeah... like the one about how enraged and insulted Hindus must be, by the portrayal of blue-skinned people referred to as 'avatars'...

If memory serves, Captain Kirk never got it on with any foreign beast.
(I admire the way you morphed "alien" into "beast"...)
Wait one minute... so, what's the (moral) difference between a green-skinned Orion chick, or Troi's grandmother, and a blue-skinned Na'vi? Come, come Bluefete... I never thought of you as a racist/speciesist...

Racist, I certainly am not!!! Let's get that clear.

The green skinned Orion chick was still a human. The Na'vis were a combination of human and beasts. (Do you think they evolved those long tails and ears? )

Actually, I had a very HAPPY childhood. I did not see monsters/beasts in everything. It was only when I came into adulthood that I was given the spirit of discernment to understand what I was seeing and hearing.

So they built a body that the humans operated and then put a human in it to spiritually transfer to another dimension. Sounds like either Frankenstein or demon possession to me. Take your pick.

[bluefete]

one person sees a movie...nice special effects...leaves with thoughts of how wrong it is/was to enslave other races....

another sees the same movie and sees pornographic symbolism....

intriguing at one's perception of events...

Well... one's perception is based on one's life experiences... the quality of photograph you can take depends on whether you take pictures with an expensive digital camera - or a box with a coated glass on one side, a pinhole on the other, and a flash of gunpowder...
One would hardly expect Moses to be conversant about a Mercedes... Peter may have been an excellent sailor/fisherman, but he would have serious difficulty explaining to Andrew about the maintenance of an outboard engine...
Bluefete lives cowering from the imaginary demons that ooze out of the woodwork and swirl about him - exactly what St. John Chrysostom's advice was meant to help avoid. He will see them everywhere - never seeing the real ones.
And so he will succeed to spend his finite existence never really able to appreciate or truly enjoy it, keeping it sealed in secure little bottle, safe from the evil forces that plague his imagination - and colour his perception.
I had written before about the tools used by the Evil One, one of them being the seeing of evil everywhere. This is a prime example. The devil has a pretty good idea of how this existence will end, and he will attempt to ruin it for as many as possible - like the little bully who wasn't invited to the party, he formulates a plan to smash the cake, wet the presents, and make everyone as miserable as possible.
One way to do this is to take the joy out of existence... the Puritans showed us that this is actually quite easily done, especially with the help of religion! Enter Bluefete, whose self-imposed blinkers will never let him see the beauty of displayed love or loyalty, simply because he might glimpse nudity, hear a coarse utterance, or (God forbid) see two imaginary creatures express love for each other.

All that is on the surface. Many Hollywood movies can be quite enjoyable WITHOUT the cursing of God or taking Jesus' name in vain or even the f... and m...f words.

The mere fact that 99% of Hollywood movies today liberally curse God and take Jesus' name in vain means that there is a clear agenda to demonise God and make people feel that it is okay to take God's name in vain.

The third commandment clearly states that "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain."

I read in astonishment how so-called editors like Keith Smith of the Express now liberally damn God and take Jesus' name in their writings.

All this is done under the guise of "free speech' or press freedom.

Again, it is most interesting how they will never use the name of Muhammed (pbuh) or Hanuman or Buddha or any other such names in the way they use Jesus' name or damn God's name.

[bluefete]

I don't know why he just didnt go and see something for smaller minds like Cats & Dogs 2 instead
Have you lost your marbles??? You want that good christian boy to go and see that expression of shamanism... animals talking like people, that's downright demonic...
... the coarse, vulgar, sexual overtones (cats represent the wild female side, dogs represent the virile, oversexed male - everyone KNOWS that)... and they're all NAKED!!!

.. oh wait.. nevermind.
Quite right! You wouldn't want your boy to be overcome and swallowed up by worldly thoughts, now would you?
You would then be forced to ask Megadoc to go and exorcise him...(Was this a show for ... gasp ...CHILDREN??)

[bluefete]

one person sees a movie...nice special effects...leaves with thoughts of how wrong it is/was to enslave other races....

another sees the same movie and sees pornographic symbolism....

intriguing at one's perception of events...

they also saw an industry that promotes wrong doing, making movies glorifying demons, satanic practices and anti-christian content.

I don't know why he just didnt go and see something for smaller minds like Cats & Dogs 2 instead.. oh wait.. nevermind.

Hey bluefete, megadoc1's group is very powerful; you should contact them so that they can eradicate all of Hollywood and the satanic content they produce. I am sure his group can do this easily.

While you may make fun now, life has many twists and turns. You do not know if one day, God may send you or Spikey or Buzz or Illuminati or ABA Trading or MGMan directly to Mega's church for a special purpose.

Life can be like that, sometimes. God does have a sense of humour. He made us.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

We need to pray for discernment

Clearly it hasn't been helping you!

The Jesus you know so well used high symbolism at the time

And how do you know that the 7 days of creation and the age of the earth (which you calculated to be 6000yrs old) is not also symbolism?

Because we are told that with God (for us humans) 1 day = 1,000 years.

Jesus himself sometimes spoke directly and sometimes in parables. When he spoke in parables, he sometimes gave the meaning. Not always, though.

How do you know that 1day = 1000years is not also symbolic? 1000 years really meaning " a very long time"?

How do you know what to take literal and what to take figuratively? As I remember there isn't a little asterisk next to text that should be taken literal.

Its job is to convince us that what is wrong is right and what is right is wrong.

It takes a strong mind to understand that

Your mind is not even strong enough to realize it's just a movie!

But in true hypocritical style you will continue to watch movies produced by Hollywood.

Just like megadoc takes medication even though he can heal people through Christ.

~Sighs~: How else can I understand the Hollywood agenda. By guess? Remember I stated that if I had known what Avatar was about I would not have gone to see it.

Why do you go to cinema at all if hollywood has a satanic agenda? Are you a hypocrite?

Agreed. But Hollywood's job is to also inculcate the themes of American Imperialism, Culturalism, Superiority, and so on. While making ton loads of money, of course.

How is this different from Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen or any other non-denominational TV evangelist in America or similar group in T&T?

The green skinned Orion chick was still a human. The Na'vis were a combination of human and beasts. (Do you think they evolved those long tails and ears? )

Do you know any other green humans?



She was meant to be an alien in the movie!

Actually, I had a very HAPPY childhood. I did not see monsters/beasts in everything. It was only when I came into adulthood that I was given the spirit of discernment to understand what I was seeing and hearing.

you are confusing discernment with myopia and conspiracy theory.

So they built a body that the humans operated and then put a human in it to spiritually transfer to another dimension. Sounds like either Frankenstein or demon possession to me. Take your pick.

a human is not a demon. Frankenstein was a collection of other peoples' body parts to make a new person. Try harder.

[bluefete]

We need to pray for discernment

Clearly it hasn't been helping you!

The Jesus you know so well used high symbolism at the time

And how do you know that the 7 days of creation and the age of the earth (which you calculated to be 6000yrs old) is not also symbolism? 1 day = 1,000 years

Because we are told that with God (for us humans) 1 day = 1,000 years.

Jesus himself sometimes spoke directly and sometimes in parables. When he spoke in parables, he sometimes gave the meaning. Not always, though.

How do you know that 1day = 1000years is not also symbolic? 1000 years really meaning " a very long time"? 1,000 years is a very long time. You got that right.

How do you know what to take literal and what to take figuratively? As I remember there isn't a little asterisk next to text that should be taken literal. What you are given understanding about, you talk about. The rest you leave alone.

Its job is to convince us that what is wrong is right and what is right is wrong.

It takes a strong mind to understand that

Your mind is not even strong enough to realize it's just a movie!

But in true hypocritical style you will continue to watch movies produced by Hollywood.

Just like megadoc takes medication even though he can heal people through Christ.

~Sighs~: How else can I understand the Hollywood agenda. By guess? Remember I stated that if I had known what Avatar was about I would not have gone to see it.

Why do you go to cinema at all if hollywood has a satanic agenda? Are you a hypocrite? What is it you have with the word "hypocrites?"

Agreed. But Hollywood's job is to also inculcate the themes of American Imperialism, Culturalism, Superiority, and so on. While making ton loads of money, of course.

How is this different from Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen or any other non-denominational TV evangelist in America or similar group in T&T? No different. They are all about making tons of money.

The green skinned Orion chick was still a human. The Na'vis were a combination of human and beasts. (Do you think they evolved those long tails and ears? )

Do you know any other green humans?



She was meant to be an alien in the movie! A human painted green is different from a Na'vi with a tail!!

Actually, I had a very HAPPY childhood. I did not see monsters/beasts in everything. It was only when I came into adulthood that I was given the spirit of discernment to understand what I was seeing and hearing.

you are confusing discernment with myopia and conspiracy theory. Disagree with you there.

So they built a body that the humans operated and then put a human in it to spiritually transfer to another dimension. Sounds like either Frankenstein or demon possession to me. Take your pick.

a human is not a demon. Frankenstein was a collection of other peoples' body parts to make a new person. Try harder.

Do you remember "King Kong?" Need I say more?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ King Kong is a satanic movie now? LOL

1,000 years is a very long time. You got that right.

yes so then why do you calculate it as exactly 1000 years and then say the earth is 6000 years old. Are you saying something and meaning something else?

What you are given understanding about, you talk about. The rest you leave alone.

There is single word to describe that thought, its called "IGNORANCE". If scientists just left things alone just because they didnt understand it then we'd still be riding donkeys and camels as our main mode of transport and we wouldn't have the advanced medicine and technology we have now.

If you strongly believe that we should not go digging for answers then you should not use any of the technology and medicine that the digging for answers, questioning and scientific research had delivered. You should stay away from cars, planes, medicine, electricity etc. Unless you are saying something and doing something else?

What is it you have with the word "hypocrites?"

Well its a single word that means "Saying something and meaning/doing something else" go figure.

How is this different from Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen or any other non-denominational TV evangelist in America or similar group in T&T?

No different. They are all about making tons of money.

I take it your "non-denominational group" "doh deal up in dat"?

A human painted green is different from a Na'vi with a tail!!

WHAT???!!!! Both are characters in a movie! Both are portrayed by a human actor with makeup on!. Are you on drugs?

[bluefete]

^ King Kong is a satanic movie now? LOL

Errmmm - Wasn't that show about a gorilla/ape "simian thingie" who fell in love with a woman and all the assorted "niceties" that went with it?

1,000 years is a very long time. You got that right.

yes so then why do you calculate it as exactly 1000 years and then say the earth is 6000 years old. Are you saying something and meaning something else? I never said the earth was 6,000 years old. God rested on the 7th.day. The earth is about 10,000 years old, today. God's word, not mine. Why is it so difficult for you to belive that there could have been a rapid development of the earth? Yeah, I know, it does not gel with the scientific facts.

What you are given understanding about, you talk about. The rest you leave alone.

There is single word to describe that thought, its called "IGNORANCE". If scientists just left things alone just because they didnt understand it then we'd still be riding donkeys and camels as our main mode of transport and we wouldn't have the advanced medicine and technology we have now.

If you strongly believe that we should not go digging for answers then you should not use any of the technology and medicine that the digging for answers, questioning and scientific research had delivered. You should stay away from cars, planes, medicine, electricity etc. Unless you are saying something and doing something else? Explain this to me: - "And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many." Matthew 27:52-53

Or this: -"They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also. which betrayed Him stood with them.

As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward and fell to them ground." Mark 18:5-6

What you discuss about scientists, I have repeated often in this thread. They are fullfilling biblical prophecy given in Daniel - "Knowledge shall be increased."

What is it you have with the word "hypocrites?"

Well its a single word that means "Saying something and meaning/doing something else" go figure. I think I have been very straightforward on this thread. If you can't figure it out well ...

How is this different from Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen or any other non-denominational TV evangelist in America or similar group in T&T?

No different. They are all about making tons of money.

I take it your "non-denominational group" "doh deal up in dat"? I do not belong to any group.

A human painted green is different from a Na'vi with a tail!!

WHAT???!!!! Both are characters in a movie! Both are portrayed by a human actor with makeup on!. Are you on drugs?

Sorry, I never tried them in my life.

But what is the message they are sending? We must be able to discern and see beyond.

[bluefete]

GASP. You mean Duane was right, all along??????

'Four-legged' fish goes for a walk along ocean floor in stunning photos taken on deep sea dive

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 10:20 AM on 27th August 2010

Perhaps he had just got tired of swimming.

For this odd-looking fish looks like he's just decided to head out for an evening stroll along the ocean floor.

But while it looks like he has sprouted legs, this angler fish's limbs are just the fins he uses to balance himself on the sea bed.

The fish rests on the ocean floor as he prepares to make a dart for any passing prey he has lured towards him using the protrusion above his mouth.

An angler fish appears to 'walk' across the ocean floor as it waits for its prey

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z0xnaTH91Z


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... z0xnaGgJnH

[bluefete]

Knowlege shall be increased.


Coming soon, the wheat revolution: Scientists DNA breakthrough paves the way for cheaper bread

By Paul Bentley

Last updated at 8:08 AM on 27th August 2010


A vital crop: The breakthrough means new super strains of wheat could be created, with growers about to filter poor quality seeds

British scientists have cracked the genetic code for wheat – paving the way for a new breed of crops resistant to disease.

The experts will today share the map of the wheat genome online for free, allowing growers around the world to develop super strains of the crop.

The development could also lead to massively increased production – and in turn lower bread prices.

But last night there were fears the breakthrough could open the doors to genetically modified 'Frankenstein foods' as scientists will now be able to manipulate the wheat DNA.

The mapped genome will also allow growers to identify weaknesses, filtering out poor quality seeds.

It is hoped new breeds of crops will be producing higher wheat yields in as little as five years' time.

This could mean a significant reduction in the price of bread and greater food security in the developing world.

It is estimated that world food production will have to increase by 50 per cent over the next 40 years to feed the rising population.

Wheat yield is also of particular concern this summer because of the failure of the harvest in Russia.

Professor Neil Hall, a genome scientist at Liverpool University – one of three research centres to carry out the study – said the breakthrough would increase wheat production dramatically.

'A process that now takes five or six years will take one or two years,' he said.

'It is quite possible that in five years' time a loaf of bread will be cheaper because of this.'

Professor Keith Edwards, from Bristol University, said the findings were highly significant.

'In a short space of time we have delivered most of the sequences necessary for plant breeders to identify genetic differences in wheat,' he said.
Bread

Cheaper: The price of bread could fall if the new wheat leads to increased production, while also improving food security in the third world

'The public release of the data will dramatically increase the efficiency of breeding new crop varieties.'

Over the past decade wheat yields have hit a plateau, failing to keep up with increased demand, largely because of constantly evolving diseases.

Professor Hall said: 'It is estimated that in Europe, productivity needs to double to keep pace with demand and to maintain stable prices.

'We need to start breeding new varieties of wheat that will be important in five or ten years' time.'

But Professor Hall warned that 'nature may not be enough' and that 'genetic modification will also be necessary to boost yields'.

The decoding of the wheat genome was completed in less than a year by the British scientists.

The research project cost £1.8million and was funded by the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council.

'Sequencing the human genome took 15 years . . . but with huge advances in DNA technology, the wheat genome took only a year,' Professor Hall said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0xnbWXADW

[d spike]

Hey, Mr. Straightforward Answers-yer-questions, Don't change the topic yet!!!Leave the walking fish and bush alone and deal with this.

A human painted green is different from a Na'vi with a tail!!

WHAT???!!!! Both are characters in a movie! Both are portrayed by a human actor with makeup on!. Are you on drugs?

Sorry, I never tried them in my life.

Isn't it just like you to only focus on the one question that has NOTHING to do with the issue at hand. Your using drugs? Good grief... I don't think anyone is interested in hearing your confessions.

"Painted green" eh? What sort of BS answer was that? The difference was based on budget and technology! Both characters represented bipedal aliens. That sort of preference for similar life-forms over dissimilar life-forms is referred to by Terry Prachett as a form of racism he terms "speciesism" (in good humour, of course - you humourless bung.)

Racist, I certainly am not!!! Let's get that clear.

Then why the implied claim that the similar-looking alien was "human", while the less similar one was not? Obviously, in comparing the two ALIEN creatures, you preferred one over the other based on appearance... that could be argued as 'prejudiced', my boy...

The bottom line is that it's a STORY, a work of FICTION. What it depicts, what it teaches, is far more important than what it is. Just because someone is different, doesn't mean they are LESS IMPORTANT. All life is important.
Critiquing a story isn't done the same way as a factual or argumentative article. One doesn't start tearing it apart and then criticizing each piece. You have to look and see what the author was trying to say, then decide whether he said it clearly enough.
If you look too closely at a mirror, all you see is glass.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ King Kong is a satanic movie now? LOL

Errmmm - Wasn't that show about a gorilla/ape "simian thingie" who fell in love with a woman and all the assorted "niceties" that went with it?

Yes a MOVIE about a giant ape who fell in love with a woman. How is that Satanic?

Princess and the Frog is satanic too?
OMG what about Shrek!?
Disney is Satanic!!!??

I never said the earth was 6,000 years old. God rested on the 7th.day. The earth is about 10,000 years old, today. God's word, not mine. Why is it so difficult for you to belive that there could have been a rapid development of the earth? Yeah, I know, it does not gel with the scientific facts.

Lets see, it's hard to believe because it does not gel with the scientific facts

There is a mountain of empirical evidence showing the earth is billions of years old. As opposed to a few passages in one book claiming it is 6000-10,000 years old.

This is why scientists, geologists, even primary schools teach that the earth is billions of years old, because there is PROOF of it. Not because they want to be satanic!

Explain this to me: - "And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many." Matthew 27:52-53

Or this: -"They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also. which betrayed Him stood with them.

As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward and fell to them ground." Mark 18:5-6

What you discuss about scientists, I have repeated often in this thread. They are fullfilling biblical prophecy given in Daniel - "Knowledge shall be increased."

Ah so scientists are fulfilling biblical prophecy by increasing their knowledge when they discover and find more proof of evolution and the earth is billions of years old?

What do those passages have to do with what you are saying?

What is it you have with the word "hypocrites?"

Well its a single word that means "Saying something and meaning/doing something else" go figure.

I think I have been very straightforward on this thread. If you can't figure it out well ...

Perhaps in your mind. Why support Hollywood if they are so satanic? Why use technology when it's the same scientists who support the theory of evolution who develop that technology?

How is this different from Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen or any other non-denominational TV evangelist in America or similar group in T&T?

No different. They are all about making tons of money.

I take it your "non-denominational group" "doh deal up in dat"? I do not belong to any group.[/quote]You admit that you stand apart in your beliefs then?

A human painted green is different from a Na'vi with a tail!!

WHAT???!!!! Both are characters in a movie! Both are portrayed by a human actor with makeup on!. Are you on drugs?

Sorry, I never tried them in my life.

The second question was rhetorical. Answer the first one, how are they different when they are both just actors playing aliens?

[b][color=#4000FF]But what is the message they are sending? We must be able to discern and see beyond.

You tell me, since you are a great "discerner". Spock's mother had sex with a green blooded Vulcan alien. Star Trek has had episodes with evolution already. is this satanic too?

[16 cycles]

someone please clarify.....are people in this thread suggesting that king kong is satanic??

[bluefete]

Hey, Mr. Straightforward Answers-yer-questions, Don't change the topic yet!!!Leave the walking fish and bush alone and deal with this.

A human painted green is different from a Na'vi with a tail!!

WHAT???!!!! Both are characters in a movie! Both are portrayed by a human actor with makeup on!. Are you on drugs?

Sorry, I never tried them in my life.

Isn't it just like you to only focus on the one question that has NOTHING to do with the issue at hand. Your using drugs? Good grief... I don't think anyone is interested in hearing your confessions.

"Painted green" eh? What sort of BS answer was that? The difference was based on budget and technology! Both characters represented bipedal aliens. That sort of preference for similar life-forms over dissimilar life-forms is referred to by Terry Prachett as a form of racism he terms "speciesism" (in good humour, of course - you humourless bung.)

Racist, I certainly am not!!! Let's get that clear.

Then why the implied claim that the similar-looking alien was "human", while the less similar one was not? Obviously, in comparing the two ALIEN creatures, you preferred one over the other based on appearance... that could be argued as 'prejudiced', my boy...

The bottom line is that it's a STORY, a work of FICTION. What it depicts, what it teaches, is far more important than what it is. Just because someone is different, doesn't mean they are LESS IMPORTANT. All life is important.
Critiquing a story isn't done the same way as a factual or argumentative article. One doesn't start tearing it apart and then criticizing each piece. You have to look and see what the author was trying to say, then decide whether he said it clearly enough.
If you look too closely at a mirror, all you see is glass.

Ah Spikey, lad. You and Duane and several others have postulated your interpretations about what Avatar was all about. Good Vs evil, tra la la and so on. Likewise, me. The difference is that I have seen things that many people have not seen (or refuse to even see).

So what it depicts BELOW the surface is far MORE important than what people detect on the surface. So Mr. Cameron said it clearly enough for me.

Somewhere above there, you missed the humour as well. Dry as it might have been.

[Kasey]

^^so dwayne, spike, and several others see the glass as half-full, and you see the glass as half-empty with puncheon then?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

bluefete, seeing a movie as a metaphor or an analogy is one thing.

Claiming that the characters are demonic and the movie as satanic and anti-christian is something completely different.

What about Shrek?

[sMASH]

^^ and teenage mutant ninja turtles?

[QG]

^ LOL I missed that one.

I know some fundamentalist christian groups were boycotting Narnia movies.

I don't think he is judging duane, he is pointing out his views as to how he sees the movie.
I understand the point he is making.

Opinion is good! But there is opinion and then there is pulling out articles and quotes and repeating the concept in a religious thread, changing the 167 page topic title and claiming the movie is satanic all the while shouting "SEE! I TOLD YOU SO" in a prophetic tone.

QG I am glad that you are still sane, level headed and self thinking like most of the good christians I know.

Thanks dude, I just do what I need to do.

Take for instance, Pastor Cuffie does post his article at times on Newsday to share his views on what he likes and dislikes together with scripts from the bible.
Because he is a Pastor, does that mean that every Christian plus myself must agree with him???
Let me answer it one time...NO!!

I separate myself from those Christians who think their ways are ALWAYS right and does not take heed into other people's views.
As a Christian, I do what I must for the Lord, but at the same time there are ways in handling situations. I don't believe in FORCING my beliefs into someone who is not of my faith, plus I like to stay open minded at all times .

[QG]

^^ and teenage mutant ninja turtles?

I looked at that this morning...not bad I must say
Bess series I ever seen!

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ LOL I missed that one.

I know some fundamentalist christian groups were boycotting Narnia movies.

I don't think he is judging duane, he is pointing out his views as to how he sees the movie.
I understand the point he is making.

Opinion is good! But there is opinion and then there is pulling out articles and quotes and repeating the concept in a religious thread, changing the 167 page topic title and claiming the movie is satanic all the while shouting "SEE! I TOLD YOU SO" in a prophetic tone.

QG I am glad that you are still sane, level headed and self thinking like most of the good christians I know.

Thanks dude, I just do what I need to do.

Take for instance, Pastor Cuffie does post his article at times on Newsday to share his views on what he likes and dislikes together with scripts from the bible.
Because he is a Pastor, does that mean that every Christian plus myself must agree with him???
Let me answer it one time...NO!!

I separate myself from those Christians who think their ways are ALWAYS right and does not take heed into other people's views.
As a Christian, I do what I must for the Lord, but at the same time there are ways in handling situations. I don't believe in FORCING my beliefs into someone who is not of my faith, plus I like to stay open minded at all times .

Glad to hear!

It is important for all of humanity to stay open minded. When scientists discovered the earth was not the center of the universe I am sure it rocked alot of religious beliefs and they have since "changed their thinking" around this fact. Of course there are the conspirators who feel the scientists are lying.

[bluefete]

^ LOL I missed that one.

I know some fundamentalist christian groups were boycotting Narnia movies.

I don't think he is judging duane, he is pointing out his views as to how he sees the movie.
I understand the point he is making.

Opinion is good! But there is opinion and then there is pulling out articles and quotes and repeating the concept in a religious thread, changing the 167 page topic title and claiming the movie is satanic all the while shouting "SEE! I TOLD YOU SO" in a prophetic tone.

QG I am glad that you are still sane, level headed and self thinking like most of the good christians I know.

Thanks dude, I just do what I need to do.

Take for instance, Pastor Cuffie does post his article at times on Newsday to share his views on what he likes and dislikes together with scripts from the bible.
Because he is a Pastor, does that mean that every Christian plus myself must agree with him???
Let me answer it one time...NO!!

I separate myself from those Christians who think their ways are ALWAYS right and does not take heed into other people's views.
As a Christian, I do what I must for the Lord, but at the same time there are ways in handling situations. I don't believe in FORCING my beliefs into someone who is not of my faith, plus I like to stay open minded at all times .

There was a wonderful article in today's Newsday where a Pundit explained the virtues of Jesus' philosophy, including the importance of The Lord's Prayer. The gist of the article was that we should pray for others not for ourselves.

There is a saying that if you keep your mind wide open, people will throw garbage into it.

To prevent that happening, you must close it sometimes.

I agree with you on the Cuffie point.

[bluefete]

^ LOL I missed that one.

I know some fundamentalist christian groups were boycotting Narnia movies.

I don't think he is judging duane, he is pointing out his views as to how he sees the movie.
I understand the point he is making.

Opinion is good! But there is opinion and then there is pulling out articles and quotes and repeating the concept in a religious thread, changing the 167 page topic title and claiming the movie is satanic all the while shouting "SEE! I TOLD YOU SO" in a prophetic tone.

QG I am glad that you are still sane, level headed and self thinking like most of the good christians I know.

Thanks dude, I just do what I need to do.

Take for instance, Pastor Cuffie does post his article at times on Newsday to share his views on what he likes and dislikes together with scripts from the bible.
Because he is a Pastor, does that mean that every Christian plus myself must agree with him???
Let me answer it one time...NO!!

I separate myself from those Christians who think their ways are ALWAYS right and does not take heed into other people's views.
As a Christian, I do what I must for the Lord, but at the same time there are ways in handling situations. I don't believe in FORCING my beliefs into someone who is not of my faith, plus I like to stay open minded at all times .

Glad to hear!

It is important for all of humanity to stay open minded. When scientists discovered the earth was not the center of the universe I am sure it rocked alot of religious beliefs and they have since "changed their thinking" around this fact. Of course there are the conspirators who feel the scientists are lying.

The Bible never stated that the earth was the centre of the universe.
That was church doctrine/dogma.

It does teach however, that we humans are special within the creation realm.
So, metaphorically, does that not make us the centre of the universe?

[sMASH]

^^ and the point is, to determine when to open it and when to close it.
why dont u try analyzing what u encounter and see if it makes sense, before accepting it. i dont mean see if it is in line with what u knew before, simply see its merits and its flaws.

so same thing with avatar... believe it or not, i understand what u say about its allusion to the dark side. but it have a few very applicable points. i did not like how the lady lick the blood and how they make the navi so much like american indians. but that was teh inspiration the guy had.

and i dont really need to see more cg sex scenes, the original drove the point home