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) before God! Manning did that. There is nothing wrong with a spiritual advisor, but when you get hooked on that and can't even call upon God himself for guidance, THEN YOU ARE SIMPLY SHOWING GOD THAT SHE IS GREATER THAN GOD HIMSELF!
d spike wrote:You know what I have found to be rather alarming? That there are people who will agree that each of us is unique... they will state that everyone is quite different... very true they will denounce organized religion for lumping humanity together...because organized religion inserts their tradition and personal thoughts and seeks to govern other people by it globally expound on the virtue of personal interpretation of scriptures... prate on about having Jesus as your personal saviour, and the importance of having a personal relationship with him...
...and then turn around and tell you that their perspective is THE right one... their interpretation of a book combined of many books, written by many different people from many different walks of life, spanning centuries, from differing cultures, different languages each with its own idioms, translated through different languages - sometimes by amateur translators who didn't fully understand the lingo - full of conflicting ideals and concepts, is THE proper interpretation...you see you forget a very important part here "INSPIRED BY GOD"if you submit to the holy spirit and not lean on to your own understanding, what ever he teaches you is always right ,He is never wrong
so if the Holy spirit is the author, who do you think will be the revealer ? .......Only the Holy spirit and if you think you are capable of understanding it on your own , you will be on your own because God requires that you be humble and to be humble is to accept that you are totally Dependant on God and not on your own capabilitieshttp://www.carm.org
The Bible was written by about 40 men in about 1600 years, dating from 1500 B.C. to about 100 A.D. These men wrote as they were moved by the Holy spirit (2 Pet. 1:21). They wrote not in words of human wisdom but in words taught by the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 2:13).
nismotrinidappa wrote:d spike thats why you pray for enlightenment and why we meditate on scripture.. so god can reveal to you what he wants you to know and understand so you get further information on the topic..
the bible is not a textbook.. its a guide..
megadoc1 wrote:D spike you're always advising people to "Find a theologian who ascribes to your brand of christianity, and follow his work"
but the best advise is to humble oneself to God and submit to the Holy spirit for He is the true teacher, not man.
d spike wrote:megadoc1 wrote:D spike you're always advising people to "Find a theologian who ascribes to your brand of christianity, and follow his work"
but the best advise is to humble oneself to God and submit to the Holy spirit for He is the true teacher, not man.
Authoring inane rantings and cutting/pasting articles does not put you in a position to advise others - apart from how to rant inanely and on matters involving cutting and or pasting.
While the Holy Spirit may be the true teacher, it has become plainly obvious to many (especially those who read your posts) that there are some who think that any sound that rattles their empty brain-pan must be be clamouring of the Holy Spirit... it takes knowledge and experience acquired from those who know the difference between that of God's voice and that of one's own hunger for notice, to tell the difference.It doesn't matter what many think because the Holy spirit is a gift to those who believes in Jesus and He is there to guide you into all truth .
because of Him you know lies when you see them
Megadoc1, you have made it abundantly clear that you are obviously one of a specific type of people where religion is concerned: the quasi-christian who, after a situation in life has left a deep impression, hysterically demands every one else to repent and be saved,really? the reason everyone else needs to repent and turn to christ it is because thats the right thing to do, it have nothing to do with me and without much - and sometimes any - real introspection, or consultation with a professional. here we Go againTheir concepts are highly coloured and often irrational, and they fixate on scriptural passages that highlight their blinkered focus, ignoring all others that point out the difficulties in adhering to their particular tenets.
I was never responding to your ability to quote scripture, but to your crassness. As I said before, I don't see the point of attempting discussion with someone who accuses me falsely, and then doesn't have the cojones to either explain himself or admit error.
You called me a liar, my young spud, and you have never since explained yourself, only repeated your baseless accusations - only further entrenching my point.
as long as you continue with what you are doing that is something you will have to live with
The fact remains that you CANNOT cope with intelligent rebuttal, far less being able to take part in intelligent dialogue - unintelligible diatribe is more your style.
again it is not about what I can do
Don't come and pretend now at being civil, and making pseudo-intelligent remarks. You may have put down your tambourine, but you haven't taken off your unstrapped straitjacket yet -you aren't fooling anyone. again I say it is not about me
and I do not intend to fool else I would do like you and not proclaim that jesus is lord
You claim to follow a religion that was meant to promote love, peace and brotherhood... yet you have spewed falsehoods,hold up .. saying that that Jesus is the only way to heaven is false? inanity, prejudice, blindness, indecision and lack of thought in your posts. How is this supposed to help your claimed religion? You are just serving to frighten people away from it.I am not trying to help religion nor do I care about it I am just speaking the truth about God
and anyone who use the term "frighten people away from God" only proves how much they don't know him You would serve your cause even better by just clamming up.you should try clamming up because you are the one that is spewing falsehoods, indecision and in conclusions
d spike wrote:The reason I always advise a fundamentalist to go study theology is because their "beliefs" can only hold sway if they refuse to accept certain logical truths - and within the study of theology, one comes to realise that many religious beliefs are based simply on logic (without denying faith), and with this comes the realisation that fundamentalism is full of illogic and (unfortunately) error. wait wait wait are you so convinced that someone who have experience the power of God, based on His very word and trusted God and saw His written promises come to fruition is in error? now thats illogical
jesus said if I believe in Him I shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover
I tried it and so it was, are you gonna play satan now and tell me it wasn't so? do you really think you can convince me otherwise?
Nothing in this existence, except God is absolute,
The problem with fundamentalism is that it can only accept absolutes
absolutes truth that is from God alone
- and Christianity supposedly teaches that God accepts the human condition, whatever efforts on our part are made, are sanctified and made perfect by him.
Christianity teaches that our sanctification, is solely dependent on what Jesus did for us
So a fundamentalist christian is a contradiction - this is non sense or another trick in your book. a fundamentalist Christian is someone who believes in the fundamentals of Christianity which are
1. The Bible is the inspired Word of God, without flaw in its original form.
2. Christ was born of a virgin.
3. The miracles of Christ are historical events.
4. Christ's Crucifixion is substitutionary atonement (He willingly accepted the judgment for our sins).
5. Bodily resurrection.
coming to think of it a fundamentalist Christian is one that contradicts you due to his beliefs and experience with God based on the bible alone
and in order for such a faith to exist, it must stress whatever scripture applies, while ignoring that which doesn't. Of course, they vehemently state that all scripture is to be accepted as it is, literally - even the parts that weren't written for such a purpose.
axe wrote:This thread often worries me...I mean God is not mocked, whatever a man soweth that he shall reap. We are judged based on every word that we spew from our mouths even those that are transcribed on this thread. Some of you find it funny to make derogatory statements while others like to expound their pseudo-intellect. Careful you reap the whirlwind.
axe wrote:This thread often worries me...I mean God is not mocked, whatever a man soweth that he shall reap. We are judged based on every word that we spew from our mouths even those that are transcribed on this thread. Some of you find it funny to make derogatory statements while others like to expound their pseudo-intellect. Careful you reap the whirlwind.
buzz wrote:this thread will die down by page 120
a new emo member would join and flail insults and around page 130 thread lock
heed my prophecy
megadoc1 wrote:no one says it have to be different but even if it is
one thing remains the same .....Jesus Christ is lord and Saviour, king of kings
BTW whats wrong with Benny Hinn ?
yuh see you cannot compare one Christian to another you, compare them to the word of God,Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:megadoc1 wrote:no one says it have to be different but even if it is
one thing remains the same .....Jesus Christ is lord and Saviour, king of kings
BTW whats wrong with Benny Hinn ?
I didnt say anything was wrong with him; I asked how is that different from him.
but this is just more evidence that you extract what you want from what you read.
The Divine Comedy (Italian: La Divina Commedia) is an epic poem written by Dante Alighieri between 1308 and his death in 1321. It is widely considered the preeminent work of Italian literature,[1] and is seen as one of the greatest works of world literature.[2] The poem's imaginative and allegorical vision of the Christian afterlife is a culmination of the medieval world-view as it had developed in the Western Church. It helped establish the Tuscan dialect in which it is written as the Italian standard.[3] It is divided into three parts, the Inferno, Purgatorio, and Paradiso.
megadoc1 wrote: yuh see you cannot compare one Christian to another you, compare them to the word of God,
compare them to the word of Godd spike wrote:megadoc1 wrote: yuh see you cannot compare one Christian to another you, compare them to the word of God,
Why not? Who says you can't? You do it all the time, judging who is a Satan-worshiper, who should shut-up...
megadoc1 wrote:compare them to the word of Godd spike wrote:megadoc1 wrote: yuh see you cannot compare one Christian to another you, compare them to the word of God,
Why not? Who says you can't? You do it all the time, judging who is a Satan-worshiper, who should shut-up...
megadoc1 wrote:compare them to the word of Godd spike wrote:megadoc1 wrote: yuh see you cannot compare one Christian to another you, compare them to the word of God,
Why not? Who says you can't? You do it all the time, judging who is a Satan-worshiper, who should shut-up...
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