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The voice of the people is the voice of Mann...uh I mean God

Postby janfar » July 9th, 2009, 5:23 am

VOTERS DON'T CARE

PM to senators: Why so much fuss over Local Govt postponement?


The postponement of the local government election for the fourth consecutive year is not a violation of democracy, since it is being done with the approval of the Parliament, Prime Minister Patrick Manning said yesterday.

"If we (had) sought to do it without the Parliament, then that would have been a different story," he said. Government had exposed itself to public scrutiny and public debate, giving "honourable members opposite and Independent Senators their chance to say what they feel and what is on their mind", Manning noted.

Manning further argued that the electorate was more concerned with the quality of service it was getting, rather than the postponement of elections. He based public sentiment on the result of one television (CMNG) programme on which Local Government Minister Hazel Manning appeared yesterday.

"The way honourable members speak, here and outside of the Parliament, you get the impression that the population is very concerned about the postponement of local government elections, much more than they are concerned about the services they get.

"The distinguished Minister of Local Government was on television this morning and the public called in. How many calls came from people who said they were concerned about the postponement of elections? There was one call. One, Mr President. The bulk of the comments were 'I can't get this road fixed.'"

"I have been in the vineyard for too long not to know that ... I am in a position to say to you that that is where the concern lies," the PM stated, adding that that was why the Government was taking the view that "you fix that first and then go to the polls".

Manning also justified Government's actions by stating that after a review of the local government system, there would be a reduction in the councils from 14 to 12.

"A number of people are likely to become redundant. What do you expect is likely to happen? In those circumstances you are likely to get resistance and it is more likely to come from within your own camp. That is the reality of politics," he said.

Manning said Government was proposing a course of action "that is exactly what was done in 1976 when the country was moving from one system of governance to the next". He said then that the Republican Constitution was passed in August and the country went to the polls in September.

But Independent Senator Dana Seetahal intervened, saying: "My recollection was that there was no suspension of the elections ... There was no postponement, so the analogy is not a correct one, is it?"

Manning replied: "There was no postponement (then) because there is no need for it. And the only reason that there is a postponement now is because there is a need for it."

Stressing that local government reform was part of Vision 2020, he said: "It is not being done because we are afraid of the Opposition. We have three members of Parliament in another place (House of Representatives) going hither, thither and yon and saying all kinds of things and describing their leader in all kinds of terms ... That political party is losing more and more support as that issue goes on.

"I have great doubts as to whether they are really unhappy that the local government election is being postponed ...They really would prefer if no election is called because they would not be held to public scrutiny." (See Page 4).

He said the other Opposition party, the COP, had not yet been able to make a breakthrough at the grassroots level and therefore constituted no threat.

Manning said what delayed the reform process was after the first Green Paper and White Paper were presented, Government realised there was no agreement on the responsibilities of the local government system. It therefore had to go back out and consult the population again on the roles and functions of the local government body.

"This caused us to lose time," he said, adding: "So when we gave a commitment last year to the Parliament that we wanted a postponement for one year to complete the process, we were confidence at the time ... that we would have been able to call the local government elections on time."

Manning's contribution to the debate on the Municipal Amendment bill in the Senate, however, was unprecedented and, in the view of the Opposition, an unconstitutional one.

Wade Mark wanted to know under what Standing Order the Prime Minister was allowed to speak, since under Section 62 (3) of the Constitution, only the Attorney General, not the Prime Minister, had the right to speak to any debate in both houses of Parliament. The Section says ministers can only speak on matters relating to their portfolio in either House.

Senate President Danny Montano said he granted leave to the Prime Minister because Prime Ministers were held accountable for every portfolio that exists.

"If that were not so there would be no point in criticising Prime Ministers for crime or unemployment or whatever," he stated, adding that the Prime Ministers appoint Ministers and therefore held responsibility for every ministry. Montano later told the media that the Constitution was silent on whether the President Officer could grant leave and the Standing Orders did not debar him from doing so.


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Postby dregz » July 9th, 2009, 6:08 am

way sah, man becoming more and more of a dictator every single day.

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Postby bluefete » July 9th, 2009, 6:13 am

So, yuh really tort he was goin' Cuba for heart treatment??????????????????


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Postby noobie » July 9th, 2009, 6:50 am

Is he right though? Does the average man in the street really care, or understand anything about local government elections?

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Postby JBL » July 9th, 2009, 7:37 am

WE LIKE EEET SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Postby Greypatch » July 9th, 2009, 7:49 am

streams into rivers...

rivers into the sheit hole we are in now

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Postby mitsu_chick941 » July 9th, 2009, 7:54 am

*sighs*


and the funny thing is,people's opinion and views are not even acknowledged by this dictator...

what manning says goes

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Postby kiamotors » July 9th, 2009, 7:54 am

he was not kidding, when he said he is here to stay!! :|

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Postby evo-STI-k » July 9th, 2009, 7:55 am

Greypatch wrote:streams into rivers...

rivers into the sheit hole we are in now


voice of the people??? like god press the mute button on dem chupid kants.

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Postby horsepwrjunki » July 9th, 2009, 8:01 am

.. i hear soem one in the media ask a question about the legality of his apearance in the senate to " convince" the senators

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Postby Peanut Punch » July 9th, 2009, 8:04 am

where is Abu Bakr when u need him to shoot a Prime minister :idea:

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Postby janfar » July 9th, 2009, 8:06 am

Mrs Peanut Punch wrote:where is Abu Bakr when u need him to shoot a Prime minister :idea:


He has been bought, just like all the other potential threats to this PNM govt.

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Postby mitsu_chick941 » July 9th, 2009, 8:08 am

guess i'm ah hadda do this mahself



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Postby kiamotors » July 9th, 2009, 8:09 am

Abu Bakr has been roped in also..

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Postby Greypatch » July 9th, 2009, 8:09 am

Abu Bakr WILL always be a criminal for the sheit he did to this country and the family of the people who were killed and abused in July 1990.

so doh bring he here, is the blind arse supporters that have he in power.

ahs he knows he could sheit all over T&T and still win.

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Postby Peanut Punch » July 9th, 2009, 8:11 am

:? :( :|

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Postby evo-STI-k » July 9th, 2009, 9:27 am

:shock: is surprised that tuners caped crusader hero has not showed up as yet to defend his govt!..


:roll:

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Postby Greypatch » July 9th, 2009, 9:45 am

LMAO

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Postby weedja2 » July 9th, 2009, 9:48 am

Look at haters here.... manning is the best prime minister we ever had, allyuh just dont know it.

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Postby mitsu_chick941 » July 9th, 2009, 9:49 am

yuh unnerstan
evo-STI-k wrote::shock: is surprised that tuners caped crusader hero has not showed up as yet to defend his govt!..


:roll:



ah reach

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Postby janfar » July 9th, 2009, 9:57 am

hottgyul wrote:yuh unnerstan
evo-STI-k wrote::shock: is surprised that tuners caped crusader hero has not showed up as yet to defend his govt!..


:roll:



ah reach


Stop whoring for attention.

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Postby mitsu_chick941 » July 9th, 2009, 10:00 am

janfar wrote:
hottgyul wrote:yuh unnerstan
evo-STI-k wrote::shock: is surprised that tuners caped crusader hero has not showed up as yet to defend his govt!..


:roll:



ah reach


Stop whoring for attention.



oh snap







wait :? :? :?

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Postby 16 cycles » July 9th, 2009, 10:09 am

*edit*

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Postby G-T » July 9th, 2009, 10:27 am

Trinidadians have no say in this country then. He basically rule out that he have no other party to contest him in the elections *sigh*. What is frustrating in this entire damn thing, Manning is right about the other parties. COP still trying to ground themselves & UNC is just feuding with each other...Manning really knows what he is doing & he is going to make sure to postpone every election.

This is going to be a grim future; we are slowly entering a world of Dictatorship.

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Postby Carnage117 » July 9th, 2009, 12:14 pm

Hmmmm... Democratic Dictatorship - when citizens have freedom of speech and the elected government does not listen to the people! But you have to wonder, when Mr. Manning went into a radio station. Not even freedom of speech again. Oh well...

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