so what's the best way to STORE data: *reliability factor*

Sinister_Audio · Postby **Sinister_Audio** » March 2nd, 2009, 1:24 pm

sooo seein that hard drives crashin like dc5's these days....
lets jus say a couple hundred gigs.... prolly one or two TB in data,
how would u store ur data?
or what would u recommend?
note: *its gonna fill up pretty fast, 1 hour recorded in HD = 11.3GB*

skylinechild · Postby **skylinechild** » March 2nd, 2009, 1:30 pm

invest in a good hard drive and do a RAID systemfor redundancy and you should be good to go......otherwise get a DLT....

or burn off to some dual sided dual layered dvd discs

Postby **r3iXmann** » March 2nd, 2009, 1:32 pm

LTO 3 tape :mrgreen:

400gb uncompressed, 800gb compressed

MG Man · Postby **MG Man** » March 2nd, 2009, 1:35 pm

parchment (once the air is sufficiently dry)
stone tablets (but do not subject to sudden drops or vibration)

Sabot · Postby **Sabot** » March 2nd, 2009, 1:40 pm

Invest in a SAN, pays for itself depending on how valuable your data is.

zodiaque · Postby **zodiaque** » March 2nd, 2009, 1:40 pm

^^and don't write anything too profound on em, ppl will go and preach from it.

G-T · Postby **G-T** » March 2nd, 2009, 1:44 pm

Postby **r3iXmann** » March 2nd, 2009, 1:44 pm

MG Man wrote:parchment (once the air is sufficiently dry)
stone tablets (but do not subject to sudden drops or vibration)

tapestry is better suited..is video the man storing

honda hoe · Postby **honda hoe** » March 2nd, 2009, 1:48 pm

sooo seein that hard drives crashin like dc5's these days....

MG Man · Postby **MG Man** » March 2nd, 2009, 1:54 pm

reiXmann wrote:
MG Man wrote:parchment (once the air is sufficiently dry)
stone tablets (but do not subject to sudden drops or vibration)

tapestry is better suited..is video the man storing

nah jed
flip ah few parchment pages and yuh have yuh vid :!:

Postby **Ignorant Ignis** » March 2nd, 2009, 2:00 pm

just don't store it in the back of your car while parked at trincity mall ......

i feeling real sorry for devi

Sinister_Audio · Postby **Sinister_Audio** » March 2nd, 2009, 2:02 pm

MG Man wrote:
reiXmann wrote:
MG Man wrote:parchment (once the air is sufficiently dry)
stone tablets (but do not subject to sudden drops or vibration)

tapestry is better suited..is video the man storing

nah jed
flip ah few parchment pages and yuh have yuh vid

fuh real eh...
firetruck utoob ent? :rofl:

thnx thou,
will look into those options...
*esp the stone tablets* SolidState? :lol:

wagonrunner · Postby **wagonrunner** » March 2nd, 2009, 2:03 pm

Ignorant Ignis wrote:just don't store it in the back of your car while parked at trincity mall ......

i feeling real sorry for devi

that's where it happened?
sigh................ extremely unfortunate, but..................... sigh

MG Man · Postby **MG Man** » March 2nd, 2009, 2:14 pm

sigh.............trincity mall again
he ignored my survival tips:
a) Drive EURO
b) Leave NOTHING in the car
c) If you drive a hatchback, remove the luggage cover so the can SEE you have NOTHING in the car

wagonrunner · Postby **wagonrunner** » March 2nd, 2009, 2:42 pm

MG Man wrote:sigh.............trincity mall again
he ignored the survival tips:
a) Do not patronize while driving
b) Do not patronize while driving
c) Do not patronize while driving

fixed

Postby **AllTrac** » March 2nd, 2009, 3:13 pm

Sinister_Audio wrote:so what's the best way to STORE data

reiXmann say to give it to Godzilla.

Damien · Postby **Damien** » March 2nd, 2009, 3:14 pm

Cut ah hole in your matress and put it in

Postby **r3iXmann** » March 2nd, 2009, 3:17 pm

AllTrac wrote:
Sinister_Audio wrote:so what's the best way to STORE data

reiXmann say to give it to Godzilla.

d phoq

benko · Postby **benko** » March 2nd, 2009, 3:21 pm

I would say tape since you said "store" rather than keep the data directly available
however, for availability, you would should look into a raid configuration, SAS drives (solid state is just unjustifiably expensive for that quantity of data, perhaps just for the OS and app not data), since SAS is approx 4x the price of SATA you could alternately go with a mix of SAS (critical data) Raid 5 and SATA drives (replaceable data) and use higher levels of drive redundancy Raid 1

of caourse you would need an enclosure and controllers and OS capable of using all this so an external storage unit is usually the best option so yes an entry level SAN or a "good" NAS, of course, you could even build one on the cheap with I suppose with enough research, Tape would make a good addition to all that realtime backup for offline storage incase of corruption eg from some kinda raging evil virus.

benko · Postby **benko** » March 2nd, 2009, 3:29 pm

reiXmann wrote:LTO 3 tape

400gb uncompressed, 800gb compressed

doh count on that compressed rate btw remember video is not likely to compress much further

MG Man · Postby **MG Man** » March 2nd, 2009, 3:49 pm

benko wrote:
reiXmann wrote:LTO 3 tape

400gb uncompressed, 800gb compressed

doh count on that compressed rate btw remember video is not likely to compress much further

cinco · Postby **cinco** » March 2nd, 2009, 8:13 pm

solid state is the best bet

buzz · Postby **buzz** » March 2nd, 2009, 8:31 pm

if is vids yuh wokkin on i would assume you want to access this data some what frequently tapes are slow and not very reliable neither are they durable egs exposure to sunlight, magnets etc

as another 2ner suggested, if youre hell bent on reliablity i woud say go with a RAID 1 (mirroring) config. it would cost more and "wastes" space but the price of this "wastage" is what you pay for reliability

then i'd say optical media (DVD's) for, well anything that is compleated or doesnt need to be editied further that is of course if you can/ or willing to split the files

$0.02

Postby **r3iXmann** » March 2nd, 2009, 8:36 pm

buzz wrote:if is vids yuh wokkin on i would assume you want to access this data some what frequently tapes are slow and not very reliable neither are they durable egs exposure to sunlight, magnets etc

as another 2ner suggested, if youre hell bent on reliablity i woud say go with a RAID 1 (mirroring) config. it would cost more and "wastes" space but the price of this "wastage" is what you pay for reliability

then i'd say optical media (DVD's) for, well anything that is compleated or doesnt need to be editied further that is of course if you can/ or willing to split the files

$0.02

i doh think the man gonna be walking around with his tapes eh :lol:

safely stored tapes are extremely reliable for archiving (which i assumed he wanted to do with his vids)

buzz · Postby **buzz** » March 2nd, 2009, 8:45 pm

reiXmann wrote:
buzz wrote:if is vids yuh wokkin on i would assume you want to access this data some what frequently tapes are slow and not very reliable neither are they durable egs exposure to sunlight, magnets etc

as another 2ner suggested, if youre hell bent on reliablity i woud say go with a RAID 1 (mirroring) config. it would cost more and "wastes" space but the price of this "wastage" is what you pay for reliability

then i'd say optical media (DVD's) for, well anything that is compleated or doesnt need to be editied further that is of course if you can/ or willing to split the files

$0.02

i doh think the man gonna be walking around with his tapes eh

safely stored tapes are extremely reliable for archiving (which i assumed he wanted to do with his vids)

well true he aint go be walkin rong wid d tapes but i was more targeting constant usage and access time then again i dont know how frequently he's gonna access this data

but with the advent for optical media i jus doh really rate up tapes again nah

storage space on DVD's tho suck compared to the rest

kiamotors · Postby **kiamotors** » March 2nd, 2009, 8:47 pm

Soundwave wrote:what if he take the tapes with him to jump up in a fete, and all his data falls out, take that reiXmann!

LOL!

Sinister_Audio · Postby **Sinister_Audio** » March 2nd, 2009, 9:31 pm

lol.... thanks again all....
but dvds are out of the question thou, i mean the single file size per hour (63min tape) is 12gb, isnt a dvd ~4.7gb?
and to go tru converting to a smaller file size may cause loss of quality @ times maybe.

or i could prolly jus buy this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/100-Sony-Premium-Mi ... 7C294%3A50

and label da phoq out of them....

rodfarva · Postby **rodfarva** » March 2nd, 2009, 9:34 pm

I running 4 Hard drives in raid 0 striping
my machine is just a huge data loss waiting to happen

S-Type · Postby **S-Type** » March 4th, 2009, 6:54 am

benko wrote:You would should look into a raid configuration.

Usually the best option is an entry level SAN or a "good" NAS, of course, you could even build one on the cheap with I suppose with enough research, Tape would make a good addition to all that realtime backup for offline storage incase of corruption eg from some kinda raging evil virus.

Try that for the price, availability and reliability.