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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby zoom rader » May 16th, 2025, 7:22 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:The demerit point system worked because it prevented a lot of people from driving recklessly and accumulating points to lose their license. However, the system needs reform and tweaking. Fines alone will not encourage as much people to drive safer and abide by the law.
The fact that there was only one private organization that did rehabilitation is crazy though.
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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby zoom rader » May 16th, 2025, 7:24 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:The demerit point system worked because it prevented a lot of people from driving recklessly and accumulating points to lose their license. However, the system needs reform and tweaking. Fines alone will not encourage as much people to drive safer and abide by the law.
The fact that there was only one private organization that did rehabilitation is crazy though.
Sounds like a sponsored ad from arrive Alive

Read it again - I am against having only one private organization for rehabilitation
Yeah?

Why de fvck u did not speak out against it when pnm was raping citizens with fines and points

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby pugboy » May 16th, 2025, 7:35 am

i don’t want to speculate if the lady is a crook or if it turned into a gravy train

but the lady started as a one person show when she lost her son to a drunk driver and was doing her own self funded campaigns for a long time about reckless driving
for a long time she was used by many entities to raise awareness
eg insurance companies, ttps
as duane say, for govt to set up a demerit system and hand over something collecting that kind of money to a private org is rather odd

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby hover11 » May 16th, 2025, 7:38 am

The entity isn't even accredited to conduct this type of rehabilitation look at the transport commissioner , his brother is on the board of directors of the same company is calling it what I seeing it as. Corruption to the highest extent
pugboy wrote:i don’t want to speculate if the lady is a crook or if it turned into a gravy train

but the lady started as a one person show when she lost her son to a drunk driver and was doing her own self funded campaigns for a long time about reckless driving
for a long time she was used by many entities to raise awareness
eg insurance companies, ttps
as duane say, for govt to set up a demerit system and hand over something collecting that kind of money to a private org is rather odd

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby pugboy » May 16th, 2025, 8:26 am

that certainly smells so now
don’t trust them white shirts at all

hover11 wrote:The entity isn't even accredited to conduct this type of rehabilitation look at the transport commissioner , his brother is on the board of directors of the same company is calling it what I seeing it as. Corruption to the highest extent
pugboy wrote:i don’t want to speculate if the lady is a crook or if it turned into a gravy train

but the lady started as a one person show when she lost her son to a drunk driver and was doing her own self funded campaigns for a long time about reckless driving
for a long time she was used by many entities to raise awareness
eg insurance companies, ttps
as duane say, for govt to set up a demerit system and hand over something collecting that kind of money to a private org is rather odd

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby sMASH » May 16th, 2025, 8:58 am

zoom rader wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:The demerit point system worked because it prevented a lot of people from driving recklessly and accumulating points to lose their license. However, the system needs reform and tweaking. Fines alone will not encourage as much people to drive safer and abide by the law.
The fact that there was only one private organization that did rehabilitation is crazy though.
Sounds like a sponsored ad from arrive Alive

Read it again - I am against having only one private organization for rehabilitation
Yeah?

Why de fvck u did not speak out against it when pnm was raping citizens with fines and points
Scrap it , start over.

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby sMASH » May 16th, 2025, 9:07 am

14,000 people had their license revoked last year, at 2500 per arrive Alive contribution , that's 35,000,000 going to arrive Alive. Not to the treasury . What arrive Alive doing so thst they could use 35,000,000 ?


That is a big scam in the name of 'safety'.

The thing is, the course arrive Alive offering can be done free , and administered by lo itself directly .
And u don't even need to build out new facilites as u already have to sit and do exams in lo for multiple purposes.

If they don't want that, the ministry of energy or ngc have the exam rooms to do the PLEA pass for pt Lisas . The very same format for the defensive course .




Demerits a big scam and people still drive carelessly .. Cause all u need to do is avoid roadblock and it doesn't apply.

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby pugboy » May 16th, 2025, 9:24 am

is it a fact that all 14k persons rush back to enroll to get back their license

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby hover11 » May 16th, 2025, 9:36 am

Well we assuming just like how ttps says they issued 5000 tickets in one month , we assume everybody will pay
pugboy wrote:is it a fact that all 14k persons rush back to enroll to get back their license

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby sMASH » May 16th, 2025, 9:37 am

pugboy wrote:is it a fact that all 14k persons rush back to enroll to get back their license
That's just one year . They cannot get back a legit license until ... If thry don't they not driving or they driving illegally ...
If u say half opt to not get it back , 5here would be other years .


If only one person is forced to do it, that is one contribution too much.
The system system is inherently corrupt . Arrive Alive have no reason to be collecting money for a national instrument

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby hover11 » May 16th, 2025, 10:01 am

Idk this just points to the rich must get richer

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby sMASH » May 16th, 2025, 10:06 am

Defensive driving can be done in secondary schools as it's just a video , and it can aid even pedestrians

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby zoom rader » May 16th, 2025, 11:06 am

sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:The demerit point system worked because it prevented a lot of people from driving recklessly and accumulating points to lose their license. However, the system needs reform and tweaking. Fines alone will not encourage as much people to drive safer and abide by the law.
The fact that there was only one private organization that did rehabilitation is crazy though.
Sounds like a sponsored ad from arrive Alive

Read it again - I am against having only one private organization for rehabilitation
Yeah?

Why de fvck u did not speak out against it when pnm was raping citizens with fines and points
Scrap it , start over.
Duane is an idiot

Guy never once spoke out on this scam but all of a sudden he creeps out from his PNM hole

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby mero » May 26th, 2025, 11:37 am

Seems like everyone over 10 points are now magically below.

Two friends of mine, one 14 went to 7 and the other on 20 gone down to 9.

2nrs over 10 go check yuh demerits.

Seems like this is as far as the demerit bligh goes and its not going to be scrapped.

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby hover11 » May 26th, 2025, 11:54 am

mero wrote:Seems like everyone over 10 points are now magically below.

Two friends of mine, one 14 went to 7 and the other on 20 gone down to 9.

2nrs over 10 go check yuh demerits.

Seems like this is as far as the demerit bligh goes and its not going to be scrapped.
Could you wait the government is not even one month old yet. You is one if them who expecting everyday the government will change something. Kamla already said it will be scrapped that's it. What i recommend is a separate court for challenging traffic tickets it can't be logical to challenge a ticket five years down the road

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby redmanjp » May 26th, 2025, 11:55 am

zr like yuh asking fuh a ban or what- talking to d admin like dat.

i'm in favour of a reduction in points rather than a complete scrapping of the system. reckless driving, speeding and DUI still needs to be dealt with -however the double demerit points on certain long weekends as well as not being able to renew your permit even for pts u are contesting is madness.

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby MaxPower » May 26th, 2025, 12:01 pm

buh A A, Zoom

Yuh well out of place.

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby mero » May 26th, 2025, 12:08 pm

hover11 wrote:
mero wrote:Seems like everyone over 10 points are now magically below.

Two friends of mine, one 14 went to 7 and the other on 20 gone down to 9.

2nrs over 10 go check yuh demerits.

Seems like this is as far as the demerit bligh goes and its not going to be scrapped.
Could you wait the government is not even one month old yet. You is one if them who expecting everyday the government will change something. Kamla already said it will be scrapped that's it. What i recommend is a separate court for challenging traffic tickets it can't be logical to challenge a ticket five years down the road
Hoss stfu nah. Is Pantymanism overload everyday with u so?

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Postby mero » May 26th, 2025, 12:09 pm

redmanjp wrote:zr like yuh asking fuh a ban or what- talking to d admin like dat.

i'm in favour of a reduction in points rather than a complete scrapping of the system. reckless driving, speeding and DUI still needs to be dealt with -however the double demerit points on certain long weekends as well as not being able to renew your permit even for pts u are contesting is madness.
It's law to Gazette the intention of double fines etc at least a week or 2 before iirc.

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby hover11 » May 26th, 2025, 12:20 pm

mero wrote:
hover11 wrote:
mero wrote:Seems like everyone over 10 points are now magically below.

Two friends of mine, one 14 went to 7 and the other on 20 gone down to 9.

2nrs over 10 go check yuh demerits.

Seems like this is as far as the demerit bligh goes and its not going to be scrapped.
Could you wait the government is not even one month old yet. You is one if them who expecting everyday the government will change something. Kamla already said it will be scrapped that's it. What i recommend is a separate court for challenging traffic tickets it can't be logical to challenge a ticket five years down the road
Hoss stfu nah. Is Pantymanism overload everyday with u so?
You not making any sense though, the government is less than a month old and you picking at something that kamla said will happen. What are you really picking at so again I say you is one of those uneducated and ignorant ppl who expect the government to change something everyday in this country when parliament only convened Friday. Dawg and if you just gonna reply to attack me save it cause you just proving my point with the ignorance

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby mero » May 26th, 2025, 12:44 pm

You does probably real annoy your boyfriend yes.

Anyway, anyone over 10 saw a drop in points? More ppl popping up all over noticing.

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Postby killercow » May 26th, 2025, 2:06 pm

mero wrote:You does probably real annoy your boyfriend yes.

Anyway, anyone over 10 saw a drop in points? More ppl popping up all over noticing.
I mentioned in another thread a couple of weeks ago that a man points randomly went from 65 to 33 without explanation.

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby one eye » May 26th, 2025, 2:10 pm

When you drive around the country, you realize that many drivers either:

1. Do not know the road laws.
2. Do not care to follow them.

If you are an experienced driver going through a no entry within the specified time you cannot enter, it's called injustice towards the citizens when they receive fines and points?

When white shirts pull you aside for overly dark tint, you vex that they are doing their job.

We know the demerit point system is not perfect.
We know it needs a revamp.

This does not mean it did not prevent a lot of people driving recklessly as Duane rightly said it did.

If you don't commit any particular offences within a given time, it is supposed to remove those particular points.

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Postby redmanjp » May 26th, 2025, 2:31 pm

killercow wrote:
mero wrote:You does probably real annoy your boyfriend yes.

Anyway, anyone over 10 saw a drop in points? More ppl popping up all over noticing.
I mentioned in another thread a couple of weeks ago that a man points randomly went from 65 to 33 without explanation.


65? i doh think it cud even get that high b4 you lose your licence :roll:

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby j.o.e » May 26th, 2025, 3:41 pm

I drive at least [emoji6][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]kms every week … no demerit points … unaffected law abiding citizen. Allyuh who bawling too mc reckless and/or slack
We need a culture change so laws need to hurt a little now. Same way smoking laws changed behavior.
Imagine with our lazy police allyuh still wracking up points

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby mero » May 26th, 2025, 3:58 pm

killercow wrote:
mero wrote:You does probably real annoy your boyfriend yes.

Anyway, anyone over 10 saw a drop in points? More ppl popping up all over noticing.
I mentioned in another thread a couple of weeks ago that a man points randomly went from 65 to 33 without explanation.
Lol well he still ban for life with that.

Ask him to check again and see if it gone down more

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby hover11 » May 26th, 2025, 6:31 pm

I have been asking why a non government organization (Arrive Alive)has sole say if you get back ur permit or not, when in fact is either by licensing office or court order that can and should be the only ones to do such.... sure don't scrap it lets continue making the rich get richer I guess

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Postby j.o.e » May 26th, 2025, 7:04 pm

hover11 wrote:I have been asking why a non government organization (Arrive Alive)has sole say if you get back ur permit or not, when in fact is either by licensing office or court order that can and should be the only ones to do such.... sure don't scrap it lets continue making the rich get richer I guess


You could just move the arrive alive input and make some changes. Nobody say it perfect but not wise to scrap the whole thing. Trinis too wild and reckless

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby hover11 » May 29th, 2025, 8:55 pm

DEMERIT POINT SYSTEM SCRAPPED SAYS PRIME MINISTER KAMLA PERSAD-BISSESSAR:
IT WAS A CAMPAIGN PROMISE AND THE GOVERNMENT WOULD PROCEED.

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16PRvB8VH1/

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Re: New Trinidad Traffic Fines + Demerit + Fixed Penalty System

Postby 88sins » May 29th, 2025, 9:47 pm

Random question here
How many penalties should you have to pay for a singular offense before you consider that the punishment maybe doesn't really fit the crime, and that the penalties might actually exist for an alternative purpose unbeknownst to you?
Try to follow this.
You get a ticket, for whatever. You have to pay $1000, but you also have the burden of demerit points on your license, and if you fail to pay, you will make a jail. one offense, possibly two penalties. You find that reasonable?

Let's say you are ok with that.

And let's say, for the sake of argument, for that same offense, you get saddled with points, a fine, a prison term, some strokes, and the seizure of your car, and a decade long ban from driving. You should be ok with that too no?

I just asking.

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