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Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

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Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » December 4th, 2024, 10:20 pm

88sins wrote:Gentlemen and ladies of the forum, I propose the following.

Stop arguing with idiots. They ain't worth the time, effort, or even the thought you might spare them.

Max, see how I looking out for you, trying to get people to stop arguing with you.
Tomorrow will soon be here, I suggest you don't waste it on your usual jabbering about light skinned venes, and try to learn something instead. Self improvement is always a good thing son, whether financial, psychological, mental, spiritual, intellectual or social. Yuh could do and be better son, but only if you put n the efforts.


Asking about a law, is learning something.

Trinituner Ole Talk forum is me being social and the sheits and giggles help my mental and is a stress reliever.

The efforts i put in, take care of my finances. You know i am a straight and fair person, i dont mix matters. I done tell you, go back on your offer to call me, you will be shocked when we speak. Remember, this is an ole talk forum.

Thanks for looking out.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » December 4th, 2024, 10:41 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Jackarse you as a home owner employing a casual worker is an employer even if u hire a maid.

That should answer your question.

You are Fueling criminals than have no background police certificate of good character from there home country. This is a requirement to obtain a Trinidad work permit



You is a next illiterate one Zoom. I am asking you to answer the question with the Law stating that I am required to ask every workman, customer and beggar for their documentarian for any transaction.

Store owners….Do they ask customers to see their documentation? So an illegal immigrant can walk in any store and buy what they like? Isn’t this some form of aid to them? Can the store owner be charged? How the hell are they supposed to know? What does the law state?

Let me get this straight, i am NOT asking anyone for their documentation when it comes to whatever services i may need. For hiring in a business, definitely, but for work around the house i am calling you, letting you do you work, and paying you…talk done. Who ever wanted by the police, have pending court cases, came out of jail, illegally here, how the hell is the public supposed to know….that has nothing to do with me, thats for the ttps and immigration to handle.
Its against the law to hire non nationals.

When a foreigner gets his passport stamped by immigration it clearly states " not permitted employment "

Spin it however you want you are aiding in Criminal behaviour

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » December 5th, 2024, 3:44 am

zoom rader wrote:Its against the law to hire non nationals.

When a foreigner gets his passport stamped by immigration it clearly states " not permitted employment "

Spin it however you want you are aiding in Criminal behaviour


Zoom, never knew that, just googled some TT stamps and saw it.

Again, how is a residential household supposed to know? Allyuh showing me some Chap 18:01 Law, immigration reporting forms and passport stamp but not really answering the question.

So the hardware that sells the bandits cro bars and duct tape aid in criminal behavior?

The pensioner that paying the Vene $40 to cut grass who she doesn’t know is illegal, can be charged as she is aiding in criminal behavior?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby timelapse » December 5th, 2024, 7:24 am

MaxPower wrote:Soldier are you a jackass or you trying to act smart? Typical illiterate Trini incapable of answering a question, but playing knowledgable with a law that is irrelevant to the question asked.

Try to read, understand, and then google the law or ask someone who knows, and then respond as if you genuinely know.

Asking for the millionth time, if i am looking for a painter or to cut grass and someone gives me a number for one who happens to be a Venezuelan. Am i required, by law, to ask for their documentation? How many “law abiding” upstanding citizens have Venezuelans in and out of their homes and pay them for services without asking to see papers? Let’s say they are found to be illegal, can the person who hired them be charged? I am asking if a law exists.

If i see a beggar, and i give them money, and they turn out to be illegal, can i be charged?

If i tip a waitress at a bar, who happens to be illegal, can i be charged?


Let me answer your question with another questions since I am a smart acting jackass.
If you buy goods and they turn out to be stolen goods, are you liable for breaking the law?
They are breaking a law,you by aiding and abetting may also be liable as an accomplice.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » December 5th, 2024, 7:56 am

timelapse wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Soldier are you a jackass or you trying to act smart? Typical illiterate Trini incapable of answering a question, but playing knowledgable with a law that is irrelevant to the question asked.

Try to read, understand, and then google the law or ask someone who knows, and then respond as if you genuinely know.

Asking for the millionth time, if i am looking for a painter or to cut grass and someone gives me a number for one who happens to be a Venezuelan. Am i required, by law, to ask for their documentation? How many “law abiding” upstanding citizens have Venezuelans in and out of their homes and pay them for services without asking to see papers? Let’s say they are found to be illegal, can the person who hired them be charged? I am asking if a law exists.

If i see a beggar, and i give them money, and they turn out to be illegal, can i be charged?

If i tip a waitress at a bar, who happens to be illegal, can i be charged?


Let me answer your question with another questions since I am a smart acting jackass.
If you buy goods and they turn out to be stolen goods, are you liable for breaking the law?
They are breaking a law,you by aiding and abetting may also be liable as an accomplice.


Good attempt smart acting jackass, but key word is “may also be liable”, which can easily be justified in court. Example for a very common situation: your phone gets stolen, the thief sells it to a clueless buyer, the police finds the stolen phone and the buyer….that is not lock up for sure. So there must have a Law that relates to it? send this law.

Also is there a law that says that i MUST ask for a workman’s documentation to clean the drain regardless of nationality. Send that law as well.

Yuh done start off with Chap 18:01, don’t back out now. If you don’t know, or don’t have the time, just say so and quit the smart acting. Don’t be like my boy 88 who knows the answer so his solution is to ignore.

You said i need help and I am asking for clarity on this. Prove me wrong na

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » December 5th, 2024, 8:36 am

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Its against the law to hire non nationals.

When a foreigner gets his passport stamped by immigration it clearly states " not permitted employment "

Spin it however you want you are aiding in Criminal behaviour


Zoom, never knew that, just googled some TT stamps and saw it.

Again, how is a residential household supposed to know? Allyuh showing me some Chap 18:01 Law, immigration reporting forms and passport stamp but not really answering the question.

So the hardware that sells the bandits cro bars and duct tape aid in criminal behavior?

The pensioner that paying the Vene $40 to cut grass who she doesn’t know is illegal, can be charged as she is aiding in criminal behavior?
Stay ignorant as you are no better than a PNM die hard that can't understand right from wrong

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » December 5th, 2024, 8:38 am

timelapse wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Soldier are you a jackass or you trying to act smart? Typical illiterate Trini incapable of answering a question, but playing knowledgable with a law that is irrelevant to the question asked.

Try to read, understand, and then google the law or ask someone who knows, and then respond as if you genuinely know.

Asking for the millionth time, if i am looking for a painter or to cut grass and someone gives me a number for one who happens to be a Venezuelan. Am i required, by law, to ask for their documentation? How many “law abiding” upstanding citizens have Venezuelans in and out of their homes and pay them for services without asking to see papers? Let’s say they are found to be illegal, can the person who hired them be charged? I am asking if a law exists.

If i see a beggar, and i give them money, and they turn out to be illegal, can i be charged?

If i tip a waitress at a bar, who happens to be illegal, can i be charged?


Let me answer your question with another questions since I am a smart acting jackass.
If you buy goods and they turn out to be stolen goods, are you liable for breaking the law?
They are breaking a law,you by aiding and abetting may also be liable as an accomplice.
Yes you are liable buying stolen goods ,that is a crime

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » December 5th, 2024, 8:39 am

MaxPower wrote:
timelapse wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Soldier are you a jackass or you trying to act smart? Typical illiterate Trini incapable of answering a question, but playing knowledgable with a law that is irrelevant to the question asked.

Try to read, understand, and then google the law or ask someone who knows, and then respond as if you genuinely know.

Asking for the millionth time, if i am looking for a painter or to cut grass and someone gives me a number for one who happens to be a Venezuelan. Am i required, by law, to ask for their documentation? How many “law abiding” upstanding citizens have Venezuelans in and out of their homes and pay them for services without asking to see papers? Let’s say they are found to be illegal, can the person who hired them be charged? I am asking if a law exists.

If i see a beggar, and i give them money, and they turn out to be illegal, can i be charged?

If i tip a waitress at a bar, who happens to be illegal, can i be charged?


Let me answer your question with another questions since I am a smart acting jackass.
If you buy goods and they turn out to be stolen goods, are you liable for breaking the law?
They are breaking a law,you by aiding and abetting may also be liable as an accomplice.


Good attempt smart acting jackass, but key word is “may also be liable”, which can easily be justified in court. Example for a very common situation: your phone gets stolen, the thief sells it to a clueless buyer, the police finds the stolen phone and the buyer….that is not lock up for sure. So there must have a Law that relates to it? send this law.

Also is there a law that says that i MUST ask for a workman’s documentation to clean the drain regardless of nationality. Send that law as well.

Yuh done start off with Chap 18:01, don’t back out now. If you don’t know, or don’t have the time, just say so and quit the smart acting. Don’t be like my boy 88 who knows the answer so his solution is to ignore.

You said i need help and I am asking for clarity on this. Prove me wrong na
Yes there is law , i provided the law but you are as ignorant as an arse.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby dogg » December 5th, 2024, 8:49 am

Just be glad you haven't been deported back to Guyana.
And be thankful for the job in the grocery meat room.

As an aside, will you be going to Guyana to collect the $1000 USD?


MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:Its against the law to hire non nationals.

When a foreigner gets his passport stamped by immigration it clearly states " not permitted employment "

Spin it however you want you are aiding in Criminal behaviour


Zoom, never knew that, just googled some TT stamps and saw it.

Again, how is a residential household supposed to know? Allyuh showing me some Chap 18:01 Law, immigration reporting forms and passport stamp but not really answering the question.

So the hardware that sells the bandits cro bars and duct tape aid in criminal behavior?

The pensioner that paying the Vene $40 to cut grass who she doesn’t know is illegal, can be charged as she is aiding in criminal behavior?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby timelapse » December 5th, 2024, 10:00 am

MaxPower wrote:
Good attempt smart acting jackass, but key word is “may also be liable”, which can easily be justified in court. Example for a very common situation: your phone gets stolen, the thief sells it to a clueless buyer, the police finds the stolen phone and the buyer….that is not lock up for sure. So there must have a Law that relates to it? send this law.

Also is there a law that says that i MUST ask for a workman’s documentation to clean the drain regardless of nationality. Send that law as well.

Yuh done start off with Chap 18:01, don’t back out now. If you don’t know, or don’t have the time, just say so and quit the smart acting. Don’t be like my boy 88 who knows the answer so his solution is to ignore.

You said i need help and I am asking for clarity on this. Prove me wrong na


The entire structure of legal system is not contained in any single document.There is statute, precedent and other factors.
You are asking about strawman issues that may/may not exist depending on if those specific cases were brought before a court.
This is Trinituner homie, know your audience
https://agla.gov.tt/downloads/laws/10.02.pdf
ACCESSORIES AND ABETTORS ACT
CHAPTER 10:02

An Act relating to the trial and punishment of Accessories to
and Abettors of Offences.
[17 TH M ARCH 1925]
1. This Act may be cited as the Accessories and Abettors Act.
2. Any person who aids, abets, counsels or procures the
commission of any indictable offence may be indicted, tried and
punished as a principal offender.
3. (1) Any person who aids, abets, counsels, or procures
the commission of any offence punishable on summary conviction
is liable to the same punishment as the principal offender, and
may be proceeded against either with the principal offender or
before or after his conviction, and either in the district in which
the principal offender may be convicted or that in which the
offence of aiding, abetting, counselling or procuring may have
been committed.
(2) Any person so aiding, abetting, counselling or
procuring may be tried before any Magistrate or Justice having
cognisance of the principal offence

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby 88sins » December 5th, 2024, 4:58 pm

MaxPower wrote:
timelapse wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Soldier are you a jackass or you trying to act smart? Typical illiterate Trini incapable of answering a question, but playing knowledgable with a law that is irrelevant to the question asked.

Try to read, understand, and then google the law or ask someone who knows, and then respond as if you genuinely know.

Asking for the millionth time, if i am looking for a painter or to cut grass and someone gives me a number for one who happens to be a Venezuelan. Am i required, by law, to ask for their documentation? How many “law abiding” upstanding citizens have Venezuelans in and out of their homes and pay them for services without asking to see papers? Let’s say they are found to be illegal, can the person who hired them be charged? I am asking if a law exists.

If i see a beggar, and i give them money, and they turn out to be illegal, can i be charged?

If i tip a waitress at a bar, who happens to be illegal, can i be charged?


Let me answer your question with another questions since I am a smart acting jackass.
If you buy goods and they turn out to be stolen goods, are you liable for breaking the law?
They are breaking a law,you by aiding and abetting may also be liable as an accomplice.


Good attempt smart acting jackass, but key word is “may also be liable”, which can easily be justified in court. Example for a very common situation: your phone gets stolen, the thief sells it to a clueless buyer, the police finds the stolen phone and the buyer….that is not lock up for sure. So there must have a Law that relates to it? send this law.

Also is there a law that says that i MUST ask for a workman’s documentation to clean the drain regardless of nationality. Send that law as well.

Yuh done start off with Chap 18:01, don’t back out now. If you don’t know, or don’t have the time, just say so and quit the smart acting. Don’t be like my boy 88 who knows the answer so his solution is to ignore.

You said i need help and I am asking for clarity on this. Prove me wrong na


"may" nothing
It is in fact an actual criminal offense to be in possession of stolen property, whether by purchase, holding or keeping or storing it for another person. Don't believe it? Google Frankie Boodram.




And just so you know
Non-nationals are in fact NOT allowed to be employed in T&T without a work permit issued by the ministry of national security, and persons who employ such non-nationals are in fact breaking the law, a can be prosecuted. The law doesn't differentiate between business and residential, and applies to EVERYONE.

You wondering "how I suppose to know if they allowed to lawfully work" , idk, perhaps you could ask questions like:
Do you have a form of Trinidad and Tobago photo ID?
Are you a citizen or legal resident of this country?
Can you legally work here?
Do you have a current work permit?
Are you here legally?




Max, I know it might have some people who really feel that you playing stupid.
Never fear, I'm only here to let them all know once and for all



Allyuh, he ain't playing.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » December 5th, 2024, 8:21 pm

^ thanks, you are getting warmer, i appreciate the time taken man, nuff respect.

Now that you have established that, I am in my right to pay someone/anyone to paint my house, also in my right NOT to ask for their documentation.

On topic, If the person i hire turns out to be an illegal immigrant or a local wanted by police, i may be suspected of aiding and abetting, even charged, but the court will determine if i am in truth, and in fact apart of the criminal activity. Easy case to win even with the sheitiest lawyer, as a genuinely innocent person will have more than enough evidence to prove they are not acquainted. i.e - no previous phone records, video footage or any sort of prior communication. Also, you cannot expect the person to know or force them to ask for documentation.

The thousands of Trinis that are tipping illegal Venezuelans in Bars nationwide, unknowingly to them, can be charged/suspected of aiding and abetting criminal activity. Vene or Trini.

The hundreds of thousands of Trinis paying workmen for various household jobs, can be charged/suspected if they are found to be aiding and abetting criminal activity. Vene or Trini.

The good samaritans that give illegal Venes begging on the street money, can be charged/suspected if they are found to be aiding and abetting criminal activity. Vene or Trini

We can establish, that there is NO law saying that the person paying for the services HAS to ask for documentation, therefore the nationality and criminal status will be unknown. Charged? Yes/Maybe…..jailed/fined? Hardly unlikely for a genuinely innocent person.

For your comments and corrections.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby 88sins » December 5th, 2024, 9:02 pm

MaxPower wrote:^ thanks, you are getting warmer, i appreciate the time taken man, nuff respect.

Now that you have established that, I am in my right to pay someone/anyone to paint my house, also in my right NOT to ask for their documentation.

On topic, If the person i hire turns out to be an illegal immigrant or a local wanted by police, i may be suspected of aiding and abetting, even charged, but the court will determine if i am in truth, and in fact apart of the criminal activity. Easy case to win even with the sheitiest lawyer, as a genuinely innocent person will have more than enough evidence to prove they are not acquainted. i.e - no previous phone records, video footage or any sort of prior communication. Also, you cannot expect the person to know or force them to ask for documentation.

The thousands of Trinis that are tipping illegal Venezuelans in Bars nationwide, unknowingly to them, can be charged/suspected of aiding and abetting criminal activity. Vene or Trini.

The hundreds of thousands of Trinis paying workmen for various household jobs, can be charged/suspected if they are found to be aiding and abetting criminal activity. Vene or Trini.

The good samaritans that give illegal Venes begging on the street money, can be charged/suspected if they are found to be aiding and abetting criminal activity. Vene or Trini

We can establish, that there is NO law saying that the person paying for the services HAS to ask for documentation, therefore the nationality and criminal status will be unknown. Charged? Yes/Maybe…..jailed/fined? Hardly unlikely for a genuinely innocent person.

For your comments and corrections.


My dear simple Max
Loving the question, even though I know it's your best albeit however feeble attempt to justify criminal activity. So, lemme break it down for you in a way that an infant can understand.
With "rights" come responsibilities, and directly attached to responsibilities, by way of an invisible thread apparently from your responses, said responsibilities are attached to a little thing we call consequences.

So, yes, you retain the right to hire whomsoever you want, to paint/clean/do whatever else you want where you reside, own, work, etc.
With that right, you bear the responsibility of ensuring that neither you, nor your employee, are breaking the law while they are in your employ, whether by the act of you employing them, the task you commission them to perform, or by them seeking to deceive you in order to gain an opportunity to be in your employ. And, most importantly, you are in law to a degree responsible for whomsoever you may hire. Meaning when you breach the law of the land by failing to ensure that you hire a person who can legally work in this country, and you fail to perform due diligence prior to hiring them, you shall be the one bearing the brunt of the consequences of your choice. Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it, and one's failure to perform due diligence isn't an excuse either.

Those consequences may be a prison term, a hefty fine, deportation in your case possibly, but the price to pay will be yours, and they will pay theirs.

Do whatever you want with that

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » December 5th, 2024, 10:15 pm

88sins wrote:
Do whatever you want with that


Thanks for taking the time for the write up, i know you mean well, you are actually the closest to answering my question.

But Yeh man, me and the other hundred of thousands of Trinidadians know what to do with that.

I will continue to look for good workers, and if and when immigrants/locals come looking for work, I WILL pay them and i will not be asking for any documents.

Charge the whole country for aiding and abetting.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby paid_influencer » December 5th, 2024, 11:00 pm

most immigration laws make the distinction between emolument and non-emolument income.

basically if the person is earning a wage- hourly, daily, weekly or monthly- that is emolument income and the person (and the "employer" that pays the wage) may be liable under immigration law.

but paying somebody for goods or services (like painting a fence) is non-emolument income ("non-wage earning" activities). in this case you aren't paying that person a wage - you aren't hiring them - you aren't their employer - so you don't have much of the legal needs to check papers or whatever.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » December 5th, 2024, 11:23 pm

paid_influencer wrote:most immigration laws make the distinction between emolument and non-emolument income.

basically if the person is earning a wage- hourly, daily, weekly or monthly- that is emolument income and the person (and the "employer" that pays the wage) may be liable under immigration law.

but paying somebody for goods or services (like painting a fence) is non-emolument income ("non-wage earning" activities). in this case you aren't paying that person a wage - you aren't hiring them - you aren't their employer - so you don't have much of the legal needs to check papers or whatever.


Exactly, but men just hear two trigger words, Vene and Money and immediately gone into xenophobic mode, they can’t even answer the question correctly because reality hits hard.

Hundreds of thousands of Trinis pay illegal Venes unknowingly, or “aid and abet”.

You telling me a man coming to service AC, and he have his illegal Vene worker, and the customer is aiding and abetting? Lol

Companies with big projects, hiring contractors with all sorts of workers…aiding and abetting?

The Vene who selling plantain chips on the highway…what is his residential status? But the thousands of motorists nationwide are aiding and abetting by supporting them? So, allyuh want citizens to ask for their work permit on the highway? Lol

Listen, if anyone i see asking for help, whether a local or vene, I am helping. Who want to bawl criminal, that’s the most you can do.

Press on fellas

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » December 6th, 2024, 5:47 am

MaxPower wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:most immigration laws make the distinction between emolument and non-emolument income.

basically if the person is earning a wage- hourly, daily, weekly or monthly- that is emolument income and the person (and the "employer" that pays the wage) may be liable under immigration law.

but paying somebody for goods or services (like painting a fence) is non-emolument income ("non-wage earning" activities). in this case you aren't paying that person a wage - you aren't hiring them - you aren't their employer - so you don't have much of the legal needs to check papers or whatever.


Exactly, but men just hear two trigger words, Vene and Money and immediately gone into xenophobic mode, they can’t even answer the question correctly because reality hits hard.

Hundreds of thousands of Trinis pay illegal Venes unknowingly, or “aid and abet”.

You telling me a man coming to service AC, and he have his illegal Vene worker, and the customer is aiding and abetting? Lol

Companies with big projects, hiring contractors with all sorts of workers…aiding and abetting?

The Vene who selling plantain chips on the highway…what is his residential status? But the thousands of motorists nationwide are aiding and abetting by supporting them? So, allyuh want citizens to ask for their work permit on the highway? Lol

Listen, if anyone i see asking for help, whether a local or vene, I am helping. Who want to bawl criminal, that’s the most you can do.

Press on fellas
One drop of oil in a barrel of water makes it undrinkable.

One kant aiding illegal immigrants is a criminal.

Max, you are part of the problem.

And for those buying roadside foods & and snacks, there is a think called a food badge.

Max also pays for hoes in villa and supporting more Criminal behaviour of human trafficking

Max shares a typical Trini behaviour of a quick fix, bligh, links ect. It is why this country stinks of people like him. No morals whatsoever

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby Chimera » December 6th, 2024, 6:57 am

MaxPower wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:most immigration laws make the distinction between emolument and non-emolument income.

basically if the person is earning a wage- hourly, daily, weekly or monthly- that is emolument income and the person (and the "employer" that pays the wage) may be liable under immigration law.

but paying somebody for goods or services (like painting a fence) is non-emolument income ("non-wage earning" activities). in this case you aren't paying that person a wage - you aren't hiring them - you aren't their employer - so you don't have much of the legal needs to check papers or whatever.


Exactly, but men just hear two trigger words, Vene and Money and immediately gone into xenophobic mode, they can’t even answer the question correctly because reality hits hard.

Hundreds of thousands of Trinis pay illegal Venes unknowingly, or “aid and abet”.

You telling me a man coming to service AC, and he have his illegal Vene worker, and the customer is aiding and abetting? Lol

Companies with big projects, hiring contractors with all sorts of workers…aiding and abetting?

The Vene who selling plantain chips on the highway…what is his residential status? But the thousands of motorists nationwide are aiding and abetting by supporting them? So, allyuh want citizens to ask for their work permit on the highway? Lol

Listen, if anyone i see asking for help, whether a local or vene, I am helping. Who want to bawl criminal, that’s the most you can do.

Press on fellas
Bai a time I was looking for a draughtsman to design an apartment building and I had vene workers as laborers at the time and they tell me they could recommend someone

D fella come and showing me plans he do and how he's the main draughtsman for one of the biggest companies locally but he illegal so he does do the plans and their trini draughtsman does just sign as if he made it
He was charging 2k to 5k for the plans and they would in turn charge the customers 10 to 30k and more

That was several years ago I should still have the plans somewhere in a email

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Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » December 6th, 2024, 7:01 am

Zoom,

Them Vene making more than you this Xmas.

Btw them Venes you have in your farm, are they legal? I assume they are, but how do you know they are not among illegal immigrants? You spying on them? The money you pay them, feeds the mouth of an illegal person. Therefore, you are aiding and abetting.

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Postby zoom rader » December 6th, 2024, 8:00 am

MaxPower wrote:Zoom,

Them Vene making more than you this Xmas.

Btw them Venes you have in your farm, are they legal? I assume they are, but how do you know they are not among illegal immigrants? You spying on them? The money you pay them, feeds the mouth of an illegal person. Therefore, you are aiding and abetting.
Yup, I made sure they had registered.

They see about the farm and I don't pay them cause they are living there rent free. They also pay the other bills to keep the land & farm upkeep. Legal papers were made up .

If I had to pay security to see about the farm or stop squatters, it would cost $$$. Venes are the cheaper option.

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Postby MaxPower » December 6th, 2024, 8:20 am

zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Zoom,

Them Vene making more than you this Xmas.

Btw them Venes you have in your farm, are they legal? I assume they are, but how do you know they are not among illegal immigrants? You spying on them? The money you pay them, feeds the mouth of an illegal person. Therefore, you are aiding and abetting.
Yup, I made sure they had registered.

They see about the farm and I don't pay them cause they are living there rent free. They also pay the other bills to keep the land & farm upkeep. Legal papers were made up .

If I had to pay security to see about the farm or stop squatters, it would cost $$$. Venes are the cheaper option.


Ok, so you don’t pay them….so where do they get the money to pay the other bills?

Because as you said, you don’t pay them, so it’s not like when you get the $ from production you give them a salary. Is it that they sell it on their own?

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Postby zoom rader » December 6th, 2024, 8:28 am

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Zoom,

Them Vene making more than you this Xmas.

Btw them Venes you have in your farm, are they legal? I assume they are, but how do you know they are not among illegal immigrants? You spying on them? The money you pay them, feeds the mouth of an illegal person. Therefore, you are aiding and abetting.
Yup, I made sure they had registered.

They see about the farm and I don't pay them cause they are living there rent free. They also pay the other bills to keep the land & farm upkeep. Legal papers were made up .

If I had to pay security to see about the farm or stop squatters, it would cost $$$. Venes are the cheaper option.


Ok, so you don’t pay them….so where do they get the money to pay the other bills?

Because as you said, you don’t pay them, so it’s not like when you get the $ from production you give them a salary. Is it that they sell it on their own?
U minding my business

They farm the land and make money on it. Don't really care for payment. I just need someone on the farm to stop nasty Trinis.

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Postby mero » December 6th, 2024, 8:36 am

Lil yuh give zoom rader enough rope , he bound to hang herself. This man could real lie and spin

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Postby hover11 » December 6th, 2024, 8:37 am

New pandemic approaching, we need to crack down seriously on illegal immigrants

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Postby timelapse » December 6th, 2024, 9:31 am

hover11 wrote:New pandemic approaching, we need to crack down seriously on illegal immigrants

Men doh fraid AIDS and Vene Herpes, they will fraid pandemic?

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Postby MaxPower » December 6th, 2024, 10:00 am

zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Zoom,

Them Vene making more than you this Xmas.

Btw them Venes you have in your farm, are they legal? I assume they are, but how do you know they are not among illegal immigrants? You spying on them? The money you pay them, feeds the mouth of an illegal person. Therefore, you are aiding and abetting.
Yup, I made sure they had registered.

They see about the farm and I don't pay them cause they are living there rent free. They also pay the other bills to keep the land & farm upkeep. Legal papers were made up .

If I had to pay security to see about the farm or stop squatters, it would cost $$$. Venes are the cheaper option.


Ok, so you don’t pay them….so where do they get the money to pay the other bills?

Because as you said, you don’t pay them, so it’s not like when you get the $ from production you give them a salary. Is it that they sell it on their own?
U minding my business

They farm the land and make money on it. Don't really care for payment. I just need someone on the farm to stop nasty Trinis.


Soldier its you talking about your business about Vene and farming and payment methods, we having a disucssion and i minding your business? Lol

Anyway, Your Venezeualan workers farm your land and make money.

If this money, from your land, is used to support the illegal family members of your legal workers, can you be charged/suspected of aiding and abetting criminal activity?

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Postby hover11 » December 6th, 2024, 10:15 am

timelapse wrote:
hover11 wrote:New pandemic approaching, we need to crack down seriously on illegal immigrants

Men doh fraid AIDS and Vene Herpes, they will fraid pandemic?
They thinking well it have treatment for that, so they not taking them thing srs

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » December 6th, 2024, 6:49 pm

Team,

How do you fellas tip at Coops Car Wash?

So many workers on all sides, Xmas coming up so just asking how you guys tip.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby DMan7 » December 6th, 2024, 7:27 pm

You can't wash the car yourself max? Seriously?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby pugboy » December 6th, 2024, 7:51 pm

coops have about 15-20p working
wonder if they get paid according to labour laws or paid per car washed

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