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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby alfa » July 10th, 2024, 12:21 pm

Habit7 wrote:
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Habit7 wrote:Idk, ask the man responsible for FULs who gave it to them.

Who appointed that man?

He is appointed by the popular vote of House of Representatives and is answerable to the Police Service Commission, not the PM. No PM can order any CoP to do anything. A few months before TTPS under the command of the CoP arrested a deputy political leader of the PNM and minister of govt. The CoP consults with the govt but acts independently. The CoP is under no obligation to do anything for any PM.

You honestly believe if the PM asks the COP to do something he's going to say ' big man ent you know that's not how this does work? Lol.
Eric Williams himself said when he calls the shot or something to the effect, not a damn dog bark.
If Rowley says organize the FUL for Warner, better get yuh rooster stiff and do it

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 10th, 2024, 12:33 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Idk, ask the man responsible for FULs who gave it to them.

Who appointed that man?

He is appointed by the popular vote of House of Representatives and is answerable to the Police Service Commission, not the PM. No PM can order any CoP to do anything. A few months before TTPS under the command of the CoP arrested a deputy political leader of the PNM and minister of govt. The CoP consults with the govt but acts independently. The CoP is under no obligation to do anything for any PM.
Bullśhit

Rowlee himself said he has the final say on who gets FULs

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 10th, 2024, 12:35 pm

Habit7 wrote:The TTPS criminally investigating somebody, consulting with the DPP and then laying charges is independent. But if somebody is outside the jurisdiction of the TTPS then obviously they will have to approach the govt to extradite them. If the govt of TT or BB drop the ball that is their fault. But it doesn't deny the that the TTPS operated independently to investigate the person in the first place.

"govt to govt(barbados) was all done by CoP"
This is wholly wrong. Extraditions are done by the Central Authority Unit of the office of the AG, not the CoP.
Bullśhit again

Trinidad operates where Rowlee can go after anyone he wants. DPP is in PNM pockets

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 10th, 2024, 12:39 pm

Dear Habit7 it time you stop posting nonsense.

Everyone knows Rowlee controls everything from gangs to cheif jussticce , all in PNM pockets

Stop trying to spin that trinidad is not a corrupt country.


U making Mero & wing look bright

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Re: PNM In Gov't

Postby FrankChag » July 10th, 2024, 4:00 pm

redmanjp wrote:


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Looks like he's vexed that he has to sit on a hard chair like the others.

I can't watch this "pappyshow" nonsense with crime still raging onward and upwards.

Imagine this man and the CoP still have their jobs.

Shameless madness.


Lost any faith I had remaining in Dr. Rowley.
If he's unwilling to get rid of incompetent Hinds and Erla, then it really is time for PM change.



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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby wing » July 10th, 2024, 4:03 pm

zoom rader wrote:Dear Habit7 it time you stop posting nonsense.

Everyone knows Rowlee controls everything from gangs to cheif jussticce , all in PNM pockets

Stop trying to spin that trinidad is not a corrupt country.


U making Mero & wing look bright
I'm bright enough to know what you and your pedo friends and alternative lifestyle cult want to bring into schools. Saw this floating around allegedly the Tobago faction of the UNC. Wouldn't be surprised zoom radar is one of these nastiness.
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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » July 10th, 2024, 4:19 pm

alfa wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Idk, ask the man responsible for FULs who gave it to them.

Who appointed that man?

He is appointed by the popular vote of House of Representatives and is answerable to the Police Service Commission, not the PM. No PM can order any CoP to do anything. A few months before TTPS under the command of the CoP arrested a deputy political leader of the PNM and minister of govt. The CoP consults with the govt but acts independently. The CoP is under no obligation to do anything for any PM.

You honestly believe if the PM asks the COP to do something he's going to say ' big man ent you know that's not how this does work? Lol.
Eric Williams himself said when he calls the shot or something to the effect, not a damn dog bark.
If Rowley says organize the FUL for Warner, better get yuh rooster stiff and do it

So your attempt to refute what I said is to cite what a former PM said decades ago, to members of his own political party? In your mind, that means the PM can command the CoP? :roll:

When CoP Griffith roughed up some Sea Lots boys during covid-19 but didn't for some ppl inside the private Bayside Towers, Rowley told him to apply the law for all. CoP Griffith lashed back and called the PM a hypocrite https://tt.loopnews.com/content/commiss ... -democracy

Not too long after the PM put in a release that he "summoned" CoP Griffith along with others to discuss covid procedures. CoP quickly fired back that the PM could not summon him, but he was invited https://newsday.co.tt/2020/09/14/cop-i- ... s-invited/

CoP Griffith several times told the PM no and arrested his minister and deputy political leader. And Erla is no different since she recently arrested the PM's friend and his son.

So both in law and in practice CoP Griffith and Christopher have shown their independence and inability to be influenced. If you think otherwise it is based on conjecture or some old Dr Williams quote you choose to apply out of context.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Mmoney607 » July 10th, 2024, 4:33 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Idk, ask the man responsible for FULs who gave it to them.

Who appointed that man?

He is appointed by the popular vote of House of Representatives and is answerable to the Police Service Commission, not the PM. No PM can order any CoP to do anything. A few months before TTPS under the command of the CoP arrested a deputy political leader of the PNM and minister of govt. The CoP consults with the govt but acts independently. The CoP is under no obligation to do anything for any PM.

He said it was the biggest mistake of his life

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » July 10th, 2024, 4:37 pm

wait rowlee said that he appointing gg was the biggest mistake of HIS life ?
so it’s not the psc who appoints the CoP?

is it on video anywhere so we can certify he said that?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby alfa » July 10th, 2024, 4:46 pm

pugboy wrote:wait rowlee said that he appointing gg was the biggest mistake of HIS life ?
so it’s not the psc who appoints the CoP?

is it on video anywhere so we can certify he said that?

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/g ... 6f516.html
Can't wait to hear 'the papers took it out of context'

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby 88sins » July 10th, 2024, 4:53 pm

alfa wrote:
pugboy wrote:wait rowlee said that he appointing gg was the biggest mistake of HIS life ?
so it’s not the psc who appoints the CoP?

is it on video anywhere so we can certify he said that?

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/g ... 6f516.html
Can't wait to hear 'the papers took it out of context'


Toolum-head wrong on that tho.
The biggest mistake of his life, was that when he was in utero his mom didn't have access to a wire clothes hanger

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » July 10th, 2024, 5:04 pm

like how he say rowlee never say he does control the rate at which fuls are approved on video

alfa wrote:
pugboy wrote:wait rowlee said that he appointing gg was the biggest mistake of HIS life ?
so it’s not the psc who appoints the CoP?

is it on video anywhere so we can certify he said that?

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/g ... 6f516.html
Can't wait to hear 'the papers took it out of context'

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » July 10th, 2024, 5:28 pm

pugboy wrote:wait rowlee said that he appointing gg was the biggest mistake of HIS life ?
so it’s not the psc who appoints the CoP?

Where did anybody say, "the psc who appoints the CoP?"

And plz answer honestly, don't spin.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » July 10th, 2024, 5:55 pm

so who does? i asked the question if psc appoints.
don’t ask us a question as a response

Habit7 wrote:
pugboy wrote:wait rowlee said that he appointing gg was the biggest mistake of HIS life ?
so it’s not the psc who appoints the CoP?

Where did anybody say, "the psc who appoints the CoP?"

And plz answer honestly, don't spin.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » July 10th, 2024, 6:34 pm

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby 16 cycles » July 10th, 2024, 6:36 pm

.....The selection process is outlined in LN 102. The services of a firm experienced in assessing top police managers is contracted by the Director of Personnel Administration.

The firm then advertises the post and receives applications. The "most suitable candidates" are then short-listed and subjected to the "best practice security vetting." As to the assessment panel, all that is required is that at least one of the persons on the panel must be of equivalent or higher rank than the candidate.

The Police Service Commission becomes involved only when it is presented with the short list. They were presented with such a list by Penn State, which was the firm selected. The PSC deals only with the five top candidates on the short list. They review the assessment and conduct their own interviews. They gather information, and at this stage that would include security checks and the like. They then prepare their own order of merit list from this five. This is then sent to the President.


Affirmative resolution

The Constitution determines what happens after the PSC makes a selection for the post of CoP. Once the names are submitted to the President, he is required to issue a notification specifying the person nominated for the positions of either Commissioner or Deputy.

This notification is subject to an affirmative resolution of the House of Representatives as stated in the Constitution.

There is no Senate involvement here. The PSC can appoint the Commissioner only after the House of Representatives approves the notification.

The bottom line is that the government of the day determines whether or not a particular candidate will get the job as Commissioner of Police.

Previously, it was the Prime Minister who had the veto. The law has been amended to give this power to the House. Last Friday, the House vetoed the appointment of the candidate recommended as Commissioner, although they approved those nominated as deputies.




https://www.guardian.co.tt/article-6.2. ... ecf7e2338f

RIP Dana Seethal

Not sure if process changed since her writing of that article

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby antlind » July 10th, 2024, 6:37 pm

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88sins wrote:
alfa wrote:
pugboy wrote:wait rowlee said that he appointing gg was the biggest mistake of HIS life ?
so it’s not the psc who appoints the CoP?

is it on video anywhere so we can certify he said that?

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/g ... 6f516.html
Can't wait to hear 'the papers took it out of context'


Toolum-head wrong on that tho.
The biggest mistake of his life, was that when he was in utero his mom didn't have access to a wire clothes hanger

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby paid_influencer » July 10th, 2024, 9:48 pm

you know what does get me

people doesn't have a problem with the PM selecting the CoP.
ppl either don't know that wrong or don't particularly care that it wrong
if you hear complaints, is only about who he select

the country genuinely doh care about democracy, separation of powers, etc. it like we all fully onboard with maximum leadership and dictatorship- the only question is who

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Re: PNM In Gov't

Postby The_Honourable » July 10th, 2024, 11:18 pm

FrankChag wrote:
redmanjp wrote:


Image

Looks like he's vexed that he has to sit on a hard chair like the others.

I can't watch this "pappyshow" nonsense with crime still raging onward and upwards.

Imagine this man and the CoP still have their jobs.

Shameless madness.


Lost any faith I had remaining in Dr. Rowley.
If he's unwilling to get rid of incompetent Hinds and Erla, then it really is time for PM change.




9 years in and you still had faith remaining in rowley to deal with crime?

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » July 11th, 2024, 5:31 am

paid_influencer wrote:you know what does get me

people doesn't have a problem with the PM selecting the CoP.
ppl either don't know that wrong or don't particularly care that it wrong
if you hear complaints, is only about who he select

the country genuinely doh care about democracy, separation of powers, etc. it like we all fully onboard with maximum leadership and dictatorship- the only question is who
Do it slowly one by one. The normalization of merging the powers

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby 88sins » July 11th, 2024, 6:43 am

paid_influencer wrote:you know what does get me

people doesn't have a problem with the PM selecting the CoP.
ppl either don't know that wrong or don't particularly care that it wrong
if you hear complaints, is only about who he select

the country genuinely doh care about democracy, separation of powers, etc. it like we all fully onboard with maximum leadership and dictatorship- the only question is who


What you expect to happen when elected politicians does feel like they have a god-complex and prefer that ignorance be the standard in the wider population.


There's an old saying about politicians.
They will either blind you with brilliance, or baffle you with bull$#it.
Local politicians have never been accused of brilliance.

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Re: PNM In Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 11th, 2024, 7:00 am

The_Honourable wrote:
FrankChag wrote:
redmanjp wrote:


Image

Looks like he's vexed that he has to sit on a hard chair like the others.

I can't watch this "pappyshow" nonsense with crime still raging onward and upwards.

Imagine this man and the CoP still have their jobs.

Shameless madness.


Lost any faith I had remaining in Dr. Rowley.
If he's unwilling to get rid of incompetent Hinds and Erla, then it really is time for PM change.




9 years in and you still had faith remaining in rowley to deal with crime?
Habit7 & Wing does

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 11th, 2024, 8:29 am

PNM logic
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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby j.o.e » July 11th, 2024, 8:52 am

zoom rader wrote:PNM logic
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PEA needs to develop an economic strategy that’s more than attacking the 1% if he wants to progress politically. It’ll get him likes on social media and nothing else.

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 11th, 2024, 9:40 am

j.o.e wrote:
zoom rader wrote:PNM logic
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PEA needs to develop an economic strategy that’s more than attacking the 1% if he wants to progress politically. It’ll get him likes on social media and nothing else.
Maybe so

But we still still waiting on PNM economic strategy

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby pugboy » July 11th, 2024, 9:44 am

blame kamala is the strategy
oh and gg for crime

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » July 11th, 2024, 9:46 am

zoom rader wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
zoom rader wrote:PNM logic
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PEA needs to develop an economic strategy that’s more than attacking the 1% if he wants to progress politically. It’ll get him likes on social media and nothing else.
Maybe so

But we still still waiting on PNM economic strategy
Pnm - take hunjeds of meelions in loans fir pie in the sky projects , take a tidy portion in kick backs , tax Joe public and Joe public Jr to repay those loans .

Lefffff foot ritttttte foot


We need to see how much bank accounts in Ghana have trini transactions

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 11th, 2024, 11:09 am

sMASH wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
zoom rader wrote:PNM logic
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PEA needs to develop an economic strategy that’s more than attacking the 1% if he wants to progress politically. It’ll get him likes on social media and nothing else.
Maybe so

But we still still waiting on PNM economic strategy
Pnm - take hunjeds of meelions in loans fir pie in the sky projects , take a tidy portion in kick backs , tax Joe public and Joe public Jr to repay those loans .

Lefffff foot ritttttte foot


We need to see how much bank accounts in Ghana have trini transactions
When de Yamms coming??

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » July 11th, 2024, 2:45 pm

PNM mudda
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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » July 11th, 2024, 4:10 pm

Ship away with Calcutta but beg from massa
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