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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » June 13th, 2024, 11:27 am

House voted on Wednesday to block US Defense funding for the reconstruction of the Gaza Strip


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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » June 13th, 2024, 11:41 am

Bad Dog wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
coltspeed wrote:
sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
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United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

Gaza return the Bibas boys yet? Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpgScreenshot_20240613-063603.jpgScreenshot_20240613-062951.jpg

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Article 51 of the UN Charter does speak to the right of self-defence, and it has outlined that an attack that would trigger self-defence must be committed by another member state and cannot have originated from a territory that is under belligerent occupation by the state that is claiming self-defence.

In other words, Palestinians and their territory are under illegal occupation, and therefore any attacks that emanate from Gaza—which is under Israel’s control as an occupier—does not allow for Israel to use force against Gaza as self-defence as outlined in Article 51 of the Charter.


... according to the Protocol I Amendment of the Geneva Convention. Now, nearly 50 years later, neither the US nor Israel have ratified the Amendment.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Bad Dog » June 13th, 2024, 11:53 am

adnj wrote:
Bad Dog wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
coltspeed wrote:
sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
Aks Moses IMG_20240602_195902.jpg


United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

Gaza return the Bibas boys yet? Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpgScreenshot_20240613-063603.jpgScreenshot_20240613-062951.jpg

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Article 51 of the UN Charter does speak to the right of self-defence, and it has outlined that an attack that would trigger self-defence must be committed by another member state and cannot have originated from a territory that is under belligerent occupation by the state that is claiming self-defence.

In other words, Palestinians and their territory are under illegal occupation, and therefore any attacks that emanate from Gaza—which is under Israel’s control as an occupier—does not allow for Israel to use force against Gaza as self-defence as outlined in Article 51 of the Charter.


... according to the Protocol I Amendment of the Geneva Convention. Now, nearly 50 years later, neither the US nor Israel have ratified the Amendment.

...and the reason why they did not ratified the Amendment to Article is...
They are committing crimes and they feel that they are above the law.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » June 13th, 2024, 12:08 pm

^ "Why hasn’t the United States stepped up to the plate? According to scholars and policymakers, one major reason is the fear of treaties infringing on national sovereignty. The United States shuns treaties that appear to subordinate its governing authority to that of an international body like the United Nations. The United States consistently prioritizes its perceived national interests over international cooperation, opting not to ratify to protect the rights of U.S. businesses or safeguard the government’s freedom to act on national security. Politics also poses a significant barrier to ratification. While presidents can sign treaties, ratification requires the approval of two-thirds of the Senate. Oftentimes, the power of special interest groups and the desire of politicians to maintain party power, on top of existing concerns of sovereignty, almost assures U.S. opposition to treaty ratification."
https://www.cfr.org/blog/international- ... -play-ball

adnj wrote:
Bad Dog wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
coltspeed wrote:
sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
Aks Moses IMG_20240602_195902.jpg


United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

Gaza return the Bibas boys yet? Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpgScreenshot_20240613-063603.jpgScreenshot_20240613-062951.jpg

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Article 51 of the UN Charter does speak to the right of self-defence, and it has outlined that an attack that would trigger self-defence must be committed by another member state and cannot have originated from a territory that is under belligerent occupation by the state that is claiming self-defence.

In other words, Palestinians and their territory are under illegal occupation, and therefore any attacks that emanate from Gaza—which is under Israel’s control as an occupier—does not allow for Israel to use force against Gaza as self-defence as outlined in Article 51 of the Charter.


... according to the Protocol I Amendment of the Geneva Convention. Now, nearly 50 years later, neither the US nor Israel have ratified the Amendment.

Correct - the US signed in 1977 but has not ratified it, Israel never signed nor ratified it.
Same for Protocol II which addresses protection of victims of non-international armed conflicts.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » June 13th, 2024, 12:41 pm

Bad Dog wrote:
adnj wrote:
Bad Dog wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
coltspeed wrote:
sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
Aks Moses IMG_20240602_195902.jpg


United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

Gaza return the Bibas boys yet? Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpgScreenshot_20240613-063603.jpgScreenshot_20240613-062951.jpg

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Article 51 of the UN Charter does speak to the right of self-defence, and it has outlined that an attack that would trigger self-defence must be committed by another member state and cannot have originated from a territory that is under belligerent occupation by the state that is claiming self-defence.

In other words, Palestinians and their territory are under illegal occupation, and therefore any attacks that emanate from Gaza—which is under Israel’s control as an occupier—does not allow for Israel to use force against Gaza as self-defence as outlined in Article 51 of the Charter.


... according to the Protocol I Amendment of the Geneva Convention. Now, nearly 50 years later, neither the US nor Israel have ratified the Amendment.

...and the reason why they did not ratified the Amendment to Article is...
They are committing crimes and they feel that they are above the law.

You neglected to state that your prior argument lacks substance.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Bad Dog » June 13th, 2024, 1:09 pm

UN Report Details Hamas/Israeli War Crimes During First Months of War on Gaza.
The UN’s first in-depth investigation of the events that took place on and since 7 October 2023.
Israel obstructed the Commission’s investigations and prevented its access to Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory.
The Commission found that Israeli authorities are responsible for the war crimes of starvation as a method of warfare, murder or wilful killing, intentionally directing attacks against civilians and civilian objects, forcible transfer, sexual violence, torture and inhuman or cruel treatment, arbitrary detention and outrages upon personal dignity. The Commission was also unable to verify reports of sexualized torture and genital mutilation. Additionally, the Commission found some specific allegations to be false, inaccurate or contradictory with other evidence or statements and discounted these from its assessment.
They also found that the military wing of Hamas and six other Palestinian armed groups, are responsible for the war crimes of intentionally directing attacks against civilians, murder or wilful killing, torture, inhuman or cruel treatment, destroying or seizing the property of an adversary, outrages upon personal dignity, and taking hostages, including children. The commission did not find credible evidence that the militants received orders to commit sexual violence and were unable to make a conclusion on this issue based on the absence of forensic evidence or victims.
As in most cases victims of sexual violence is reluctant to come forward.
All 59 pages of the report.
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/fil ... -crp-3.pdf

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » June 13th, 2024, 6:08 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
coltspeed wrote:
sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
Aks Moses IMG_20240602_195902.jpg


United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

Gaza return the Bibas boys yet? Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpgScreenshot_20240613-063603.jpgScreenshot_20240613-062951.jpg

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Killing, mistreatment and abduction in civilian locations

Hamas military wing, other Palestinian armed groups and civilians attacked distinct civilian targets in at least 24 localities, as well as public spaces and outdoor festivals. In these sites militants systematically moved from house to house setting homes on fire, shooting into private and public shelters, and removing people from hiding places, killing, injuring and abducting civilians to Gaza.

The Commission investigated six distinct attacks in Be’eri and eight attacks in Nir Oz, each involving multiple victims, largely from the same families.

In Be’eri, 105 civilians were killed (63 men and 42 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) as well as by civilians from Gaza. In addition, 31 civilians (13 men and 18 women) were abducted to the Gaza Strip. Attackers entered the kibbutz and shot at residents, cars, pets and houses, killing and injuring, setting houses on fire and abducting people to Gaza. In one case, a nine-month-old baby girl, was shot and killed while hiding with her mother in their safe room in Be’eri. In another case, at least four people were taken out of their homes and killed at the perimeter of the Be’eri, likely while being transferred to Gaza.

In Nir Oz, 46 civilians were killed (33 men and 13 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the PIJ, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, the armed wing of the Palestinian Mujahideen Movement and the armed wing of the Popular Resistance Committees. Palestinian civilians also participated in these killings. Seventy-two residents of the kibbutz (37 men and 35 women) were abducted to Gaza. In one case, a 79-year-old woman and her 12-year-old autistic granddaughter from Nir Oz were killed close to the perimeter fence with Gaza, allegedly because they were slowing down the retreat of their captors. In another case, a 70-year-old woman and her 73-year-old husband were attacked while out for a walk in the kibbutz. The woman was killed, while her partner was abducted to Gaza where he died in captivity.

Many Israeli families suffered a multigenerational impact with several members either killed or abducted to Gaza. In one case in Be’eri, a 48-year-old woman and her two teenage daughters were killed, while the father was abducted to Gaza. In Nir Oz, a family of five was hiding in their safe room when militants broke into the room, shot and killed both parents, and set fire to their home, which resulted in the killing of their three children from smoke suffocation. The children’s grandmother was shot dead in a different safe room in the kibbutz. In another case from Nir Oz, an entire family was abducted to Gaza, including both parents, a four-year-old boy and a 9-month-old baby. Two of the children’s grandparents were also killed in the attack and their bodies were found near the Gaza border.

Of 3,000 young people at the Nova music festival in Re'im, 364 attendees (including 215 men and 136 women) were killed by members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups, while around 40 others were abducted to Gaza. Victims were killed at the site of the main festival while attempting to hide under the festival stage, in portable public toilets, inside parked cars and in garbage containers. In one case, a man hid by a parked silver car, when Hamas militants shot him to death. Many of those killed were shot while running through a field east of the Nova site, trying to escape. Others were killed while hiding in stationary cars and in public shelters along road 232 where they sought refuge. Survivors in shelters reported lying for hours under piles of bodies waiting for first responders to arrive.

The Commission investigated the killing of civilians in four public shelters (near Re’im, Be’eri and Alumim). In all four locations, militants attacked the shelters using grenades and machine gun fire, shooting at any person attempting to escape. In a shelter near Re’im, the Commission found that militants also used a rocket propelled grenade. Militants abducted civilians to Gaza from the Re’im shelter, all of whom were suffering from serious injuries. The similar pattern of attack against these and other public shelters suggests that the attackers planned the modalities of the attacks in advance.

In Zikim beach, Hamas militants killed at least 18 civilians, including five teenagers (four boys and one girl), in a public shelter, public toilets and at other locations on the beach. Two boats carrying some 10 Hamas militants arrived at the beach at approximately 06:45. Hamas militants threw grenades into the shelter and then shot indiscriminately. The Commission reviewed and verified digital evidence of the attack on the toilet block showing five teenagers crouching while shooting is heard in the background. An ISF soldier is also present, engaging the militants and returning fire. In another video published by Hamas six dead bodies, including the five teenagers, are seen in the toilet block, all of whom appear to have been shot and killed.

The Commission found evidence of mistreatment of civilians and ISF members in several locations, and significant evidence on the desecration of corpses, including sexualized desecration, decapitations, lacerations, burning, severing of body parts and undressing.

The Commission estimates that some 130 older persons were killed in the attack. In one incident at a bus-stop in Sderot, militants shot and killed 13 civilians, eight of them were over the age of 65.

At least 68 foreign nationals were killed on 7 October. The Commission documented the torture, attempted beheading and killing of Thai workers in Nir Oz and the killing of 19 Thai and Nepalese exchange students in Alumim.

Killing of soldiers considered hors de combat and sexual and gender-based violence (SGBV) in Nahal Oz military outpost

The Commission investigated an attack on the Nahal Oz military outpost in which members of the military wing of Hamas and other armed groups killed 66 ISF soldiers, including one male soldier who was decapitated after death, and female intelligence observation soldiers (Tazpitaniyot), who were young, unarmed, and untrained for combat. The Commission found that militants killed at least 20 female soldiers and abducted seven. The Commission notes that in several cases these soldiers were visibly unarmed, wounded, hiding, captured and/or showing signs of having surrendered at the time of their abduction or killing, including one case where three female soldiers were hiding under a desk and shot and killed. The Commission finds reasonable grounds to believe that some soldiers were hors de combat and should not have been attacked.

The Commission found that seven female soldiers were taken to Gaza as hostages and viewed footage showing that they had been subjected to physical and verbal abuse. Four female bodies found at Nahal Oz outpost were partially or completely undressed, two of which were isolated in separate rooms, showing signs of physical abuse and sexual violence.

SGBV

The Commission found indications that members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups committed gender-based violence (GBV) in several locations in southern Israel on 7 October. These were not isolated incidents but perpetrated in similar ways in several locations and by multiple Palestinian perpetrators. The acts documented by the Commission reflected clear abuse of power by male perpetrators and a disregard for the special considerations and protection of women’s integrity and autonomy granted by international law.

Hamas military wing rejected all accusations that its forces committed sexual violence against Israeli women. However, the Commission documented cases indicative of sexual violence perpetrated against women and men in and around the Nova festival site, as well as the Nahal Oz military outpost and several kibbutzim, including Kfar Aza, Re’im and Nir Oz. It collected and preserved digital evidence, including images of victims’ bodies displaying indications of sexual violence, a pattern corroborated by independent testimonies from witnesses. Reliable witness accounts obtained by the Commission describe bodies that had been undressed, in some incidents with exposed genitals. The Commission received reports and verified digital evidence concerning the restraining of women, including hands and sometimes feet of women being bound, often behind the victims’ backs, prior to their abduction or killing. Additionally, the Commission made assessments based on the position of the body, for example images displaying legs spread or bent over, and signs of struggle or violence on the body, such as stab wounds, burns, lacerations and abrasions.

The Commission has reviewed testimonies obtained by journalists and the Israeli police concerning rape but has not been able to independently verify such allegations, due to a lack of access to victims, witnesses and crime sites and the obstruction of its investigations by the Israeli authorities. The Commission was unable to review the unedited version of such testimonies. For the same reasons, the Commission was also unable to verify reports of sexualized torture and genital mutilation. Additionally, the Commission found some specific allegations to be false, inaccurate or contradictory with other evidence or statements and discounted these from its assessment.

Civilian women were deliberately killed by militants during their abduction or while trying to escape, including in Be’eri, Mefalsim, Nir Oz and close to the Nova site. The Commission has documented three such cases with verified digital footage, showing that women were shot at close range while trying to escape.

Ninety women and girls were abducted to Gaza on 7 October. The Commission documented the physical and psychological violence in the process of several of these abductions. Many abductions were filmed, with women placed on the back of vehicles including motorbikes and brought to Gaza; acts committed with force, threat of force or the fear of violence. The abductees were forced to sit very close to their abductors and filmed during their abduction, in several cases placed between two men on a small motorbike, forcing them to coerced intimacy with their abductors. Female abductees have described how they were subjected to physical and psychological violence in the course of their abductions, being treated as “trophies” or “objects” or subjected to insults such as Jewish female dog. The Commission found that women were disproportionally affected by this type of gender-based crime and documented many cases with the same pattern, from both kibbutzim and the Nova festival.

Women and women’s bodies were used as victory trophies by male perpetrators. The abduction, violence and humiliation of women were put on public display, either on the streets of Gaza and/or by recording the bodies of women or the acts of the crime and publishing it online for propaganda purposes. This type of gender-based crime was identified by the Commission in many locations, women being the primary but not the only target.

The Commission documented the desecration of both male and female bodies, including sexual acts such as undressing the body and/or displaying it partially undressed in public. In several cases the victims' undressed bodies were displayed as a means of humiliation and disrespect, while these acts were filmed and disseminated. Militants posed with bodies in the streets of Gaza and in videos and photos, violating the personal dignity of the dead persons.

Impact on children

Forty Israeli children (at least 23 boys and 15 girls), including one under the age of two years and 10 under the age of 10 years, were killed and hundreds more were wounded on 7 October. Twenty children lost both their parents and 96 children lost one parent. In all the cases investigated by the Commission, militants attacked with full knowledge that children were present. In one case, three siblings from Kfar Aza witnessed the killing of their parents. One of the siblings, a three-year-old girl, was then abducted to Gaza, while her brother and sister spent 14 hours hiding in a wardrobe, waiting to be rescued.

The Commission found that children were instrumentalized by members of the military wing of Hamas and other armed groups with the intent of achieving specific political or strategic gains. In one case investigated by the Commission, militants used a 17-year-old boy in kibbutz Nahal Oz to lure his neighbours to open their houses, filmed and livestreamed his ordeal. He was later killed, while his 15- and eight-year-old stepsisters were abducted to Gaza. In Holit, two siblings, aged four and four-months respectively, witnessed the murder of their mother. They were then taken and held by a Hamas militant and filmed while the militant said: “look at the mercy in our hearts. Here are the children, we did not kill them.” The video was uploaded on the official Hamas military wing telegram for propaganda purposes. The two children were then taken to a neighbour’s house for the purpose of being abducted and were released on the way to the Gaza Strip. In these and other cases, children were removed from the protection and care of their parents and put in highly vulnerable situations with little ability to understand the situation or voice objection.

Children were also intentionally targeted for abduction. Thirty-six children were abducted to Gaza, 10 of whom were abducted alone, without parents or other family members. Thirty-four children were released in November 2023.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/co-israel/index
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » June 13th, 2024, 6:11 pm

Been offline most of today. Now logged in to see Hezbollah's #2 or #3 possibly taken out today together with other members of the militancy.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » June 13th, 2024, 7:55 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
coltspeed wrote:
sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
Aks Moses IMG_20240602_195902.jpg


United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

Gaza return the Bibas boys yet?
Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpg
Screenshot_20240613-063603.jpg
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That was done to protect them from idf tanks and helicopters .
Nobody wants to have children and elderly as hostages ... The purpose is to exchange for some ransom , it only works of they are alive. Old people hard to keep alive , and both need too much care to not get heat for mistreatment .



Only Israel likes to kidnap old, young Palestinians .

Every accusation is confession .

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » June 13th, 2024, 8:03 pm

adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
coltspeed wrote:
sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
Aks Moses IMG_20240602_195902.jpg


United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

Gaza return the Bibas boys yet? Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpgScreenshot_20240613-063603.jpgScreenshot_20240613-062951.jpg

Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app
Fake Zionists news
Rubbish


Killing, mistreatment and abduction in civilian locations

Hamas military wing, other Palestinian armed groups and civilians attacked distinct civilian targets in at least 24 localities, as well as public spaces and outdoor festivals. In these sites militants systematically moved from house to house setting homes on fire, shooting into private and public shelters, and removing people from hiding places, killing, injuring and abducting civilians to Gaza.

The Commission investigated six distinct attacks in Be’eri and eight attacks in Nir Oz, each involving multiple victims, largely from the same families.

In Be’eri, 105 civilians were killed (63 men and 42 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) as well as by civilians from Gaza. In addition, 31 civilians (13 men and 18 women) were abducted to the Gaza Strip. Attackers entered the kibbutz and shot at residents, cars, pets and houses, killing and injuring, setting houses on fire and abducting people to Gaza. In one case, a nine-month-old baby girl, was shot and killed while hiding with her mother in their safe room in Be’eri. In another case, at least four people were taken out of their homes and killed at the perimeter of the Be’eri, likely while being transferred to Gaza.

In Nir Oz, 46 civilians were killed (33 men and 13 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the PIJ, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, the armed wing of the Palestinian Mujahideen Movement and the armed wing of the Popular Resistance Committees. Palestinian civilians also participated in these killings. Seventy-two residents of the kibbutz (37 men and 35 women) were abducted to Gaza. In one case, a 79-year-old woman and her 12-year-old autistic granddaughter from Nir Oz were killed close to the perimeter fence with Gaza, allegedly because they were slowing down the retreat of their captors. In another case, a 70-year-old woman and her 73-year-old husband were attacked while out for a walk in the kibbutz. The woman was killed, while her partner was abducted to Gaza where he died in captivity.

Many Israeli families suffered a multigenerational impact with several members either killed or abducted to Gaza. In one case in Be’eri, a 48-year-old woman and her two teenage daughters were killed, while the father was abducted to Gaza. In Nir Oz, a family of five was hiding in their safe room when militants broke into the room, shot and killed both parents, and set fire to their home, which resulted in the killing of their three children from smoke suffocation. The children’s grandmother was shot dead in a different safe room in the kibbutz. In another case from Nir Oz, an entire family was abducted to Gaza, including both parents, a four-year-old boy and a 9-month-old baby. Two of the children’s grandparents were also killed in the attack and their bodies were found near the Gaza border.

Of 3,000 young people at the Nova music festival in Re'im, 364 attendees (including 215 men and 136 women) were killed by members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups, while around 40 others were abducted to Gaza. Victims were killed at the site of the main festival while attempting to hide under the festival stage, in portable public toilets, inside parked cars and in garbage containers. In one case, a man hid by a parked silver car, when Hamas militants shot him to death. Many of those killed were shot while running through a field east of the Nova site, trying to escape. Others were killed while hiding in stationary cars and in public shelters along road 232 where they sought refuge. Survivors in shelters reported lying for hours under piles of bodies waiting for first responders to arrive.

The Commission investigated the killing of civilians in four public shelters (near Re’im, Be’eri and Alumim). In all four locations, militants attacked the shelters using grenades and machine gun fire, shooting at any person attempting to escape. In a shelter near Re’im, the Commission found that militants also used a rocket propelled grenade. Militants abducted civilians to Gaza from the Re’im shelter, all of whom were suffering from serious injuries. The similar pattern of attack against these and other public shelters suggests that the attackers planned the modalities of the attacks in advance.

In Zikim beach, Hamas militants killed at least 18 civilians, including five teenagers (four boys and one girl), in a public shelter, public toilets and at other locations on the beach. Two boats carrying some 10 Hamas militants arrived at the beach at approximately 06:45. Hamas militants threw grenades into the shelter and then shot indiscriminately. The Commission reviewed and verified digital evidence of the attack on the toilet block showing five teenagers crouching while shooting is heard in the background. An ISF soldier is also present, engaging the militants and returning fire. In another video published by Hamas six dead bodies, including the five teenagers, are seen in the toilet block, all of whom appear to have been shot and killed.

The Commission found evidence of mistreatment of civilians and ISF members in several locations, and significant evidence on the desecration of corpses, including sexualized desecration, decapitations, lacerations, burning, severing of body parts and undressing.

The Commission estimates that some 130 older persons were killed in the attack. In one incident at a bus-stop in Sderot, militants shot and killed 13 civilians, eight of them were over the age of 65.

At least 68 foreign nationals were killed on 7 October. The Commission documented the torture, attempted beheading and killing of Thai workers in Nir Oz and the killing of 19 Thai and Nepalese exchange students in Alumim.

Killing of soldiers considered hors de combat and sexual and gender-based violence (SGBV) in Nahal Oz military outpost

The Commission investigated an attack on the Nahal Oz military outpost in which members of the military wing of Hamas and other armed groups killed 66 ISF soldiers, including one male soldier who was decapitated after death, and female intelligence observation soldiers (Tazpitaniyot), who were young, unarmed, and untrained for combat. The Commission found that militants killed at least 20 female soldiers and abducted seven. The Commission notes that in several cases these soldiers were visibly unarmed, wounded, hiding, captured and/or showing signs of having surrendered at the time of their abduction or killing, including one case where three female soldiers were hiding under a desk and shot and killed. The Commission finds reasonable grounds to believe that some soldiers were hors de combat and should not have been attacked.

The Commission found that seven female soldiers were taken to Gaza as hostages and viewed footage showing that they had been subjected to physical and verbal abuse. Four female bodies found at Nahal Oz outpost were partially or completely undressed, two of which were isolated in separate rooms, showing signs of physical abuse and sexual violence.

SGBV

The Commission found indications that members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups committed gender-based violence (GBV) in several locations in southern Israel on 7 October. These were not isolated incidents but perpetrated in similar ways in several locations and by multiple Palestinian perpetrators. The acts documented by the Commission reflected clear abuse of power by male perpetrators and a disregard for the special considerations and protection of women’s integrity and autonomy granted by international law.

Hamas military wing rejected all accusations that its forces committed sexual violence against Israeli women. However, the Commission documented cases indicative of sexual violence perpetrated against women and men in and around the Nova festival site, as well as the Nahal Oz military outpost and several kibbutzim, including Kfar Aza, Re’im and Nir Oz. It collected and preserved digital evidence, including images of victims’ bodies displaying indications of sexual violence, a pattern corroborated by independent testimonies from witnesses. Reliable witness accounts obtained by the Commission describe bodies that had been undressed, in some incidents with exposed genitals. The Commission received reports and verified digital evidence concerning the restraining of women, including hands and sometimes feet of women being bound, often behind the victims’ backs, prior to their abduction or killing. Additionally, the Commission made assessments based on the position of the body, for example images displaying legs spread or bent over, and signs of struggle or violence on the body, such as stab wounds, burns, lacerations and abrasions.

The Commission has reviewed testimonies obtained by journalists and the Israeli police concerning rape but has not been able to independently verify such allegations, due to a lack of access to victims, witnesses and crime sites and the obstruction of its investigations by the Israeli authorities. The Commission was unable to review the unedited version of such testimonies. For the same reasons, the Commission was also unable to verify reports of sexualized torture and genital mutilation. Additionally, the Commission found some specific allegations to be false, inaccurate or contradictory with other evidence or statements and discounted these from its assessment.

Civilian women were deliberately killed by militants during their abduction or while trying to escape, including in Be’eri, Mefalsim, Nir Oz and close to the Nova site. The Commission has documented three such cases with verified digital footage, showing that women were shot at close range while trying to escape.

Ninety women and girls were abducted to Gaza on 7 October. The Commission documented the physical and psychological violence in the process of several of these abductions. Many abductions were filmed, with women placed on the back of vehicles including motorbikes and brought to Gaza; acts committed with force, threat of force or the fear of violence. The abductees were forced to sit very close to their abductors and filmed during their abduction, in several cases placed between two men on a small motorbike, forcing them to coerced intimacy with their abductors. Female abductees have described how they were subjected to physical and psychological violence in the course of their abductions, being treated as “trophies” or “objects” or subjected to insults such as Jewish female dog. The Commission found that women were disproportionally affected by this type of gender-based crime and documented many cases with the same pattern, from both kibbutzim and the Nova festival.

Women and women’s bodies were used as victory trophies by male perpetrators. The abduction, violence and humiliation of women were put on public display, either on the streets of Gaza and/or by recording the bodies of women or the acts of the crime and publishing it online for propaganda purposes. This type of gender-based crime was identified by the Commission in many locations, women being the primary but not the only target.

The Commission documented the desecration of both male and female bodies, including sexual acts such as undressing the body and/or displaying it partially undressed in public. In several cases the victims' undressed bodies were displayed as a means of humiliation and disrespect, while these acts were filmed and disseminated. Militants posed with bodies in the streets of Gaza and in videos and photos, violating the personal dignity of the dead persons.

Impact on children

Forty Israeli children (at least 23 boys and 15 girls), including one under the age of two years and 10 under the age of 10 years, were killed and hundreds more were wounded on 7 October. Twenty children lost both their parents and 96 children lost one parent. In all the cases investigated by the Commission, militants attacked with full knowledge that children were present. In one case, three siblings from Kfar Aza witnessed the killing of their parents. One of the siblings, a three-year-old girl, was then abducted to Gaza, while her brother and sister spent 14 hours hiding in a wardrobe, waiting to be rescued.

The Commission found that children were instrumentalized by members of the military wing of Hamas and other armed groups with the intent of achieving specific political or strategic gains. In one case investigated by the Commission, militants used a 17-year-old boy in kibbutz Nahal Oz to lure his neighbours to open their houses, filmed and livestreamed his ordeal. He was later killed, while his 15- and eight-year-old stepsisters were abducted to Gaza. In Holit, two siblings, aged four and four-months respectively, witnessed the murder of their mother. They were then taken and held by a Hamas militant and filmed while the militant said: “look at the mercy in our hearts. Here are the children, we did not kill them.” The video was uploaded on the official Hamas military wing telegram for propaganda purposes. The two children were then taken to a neighbour’s house for the purpose of being abducted and were released on the way to the Gaza Strip. In these and other cases, children were removed from the protection and care of their parents and put in highly vulnerable situations with little ability to understand the situation or voice objection.

Children were also intentionally targeted for abduction. Thirty-six children were abducted to Gaza, 10 of whom were abducted alone, without parents or other family members. Thirty-four children were released in November 2023.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/co-israel/index


Basically saying that rape is bad, but Israel prevented them from talking to victims/witnesses .... So hadda go by hearsay ...


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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » June 13th, 2024, 8:06 pm

adnj wrote:
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Dizzy28 wrote:
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sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
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United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

Gaza return the Bibas boys yet? Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpgScreenshot_20240613-063603.jpgScreenshot_20240613-062951.jpg

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Article 51 of the UN Charter does speak to the right of self-defence, and it has outlined that an attack that would trigger self-defence must be committed by another member state and cannot have originated from a territory that is under belligerent occupation by the state that is claiming self-defence.

In other words, Palestinians and their territory are under illegal occupation, and therefore any attacks that emanate from Gaza—which is under Israel’s control as an occupier—does not allow for Israel to use force against Gaza as self-defence as outlined in Article 51 of the Charter.


... according to the Protocol I Amendment of the Geneva Convention. Now, nearly 50 years later, neither the US nor Israel have ratified the Amendment.
Relying on the US for moral and values isn't really a good template .
Remeber they nearly exterminated the north American bison to starve out the Indians ...
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » June 13th, 2024, 8:19 pm

This was the 2018 right of return protests that gaza held to protest the Israeli seige of gaza .
This was peaceful protests inside the fencing.

Yet still fired upon.

Hundreds of people wounded by idf shootings ,with many dead.


This one particularly shot the story into the global light.

Apparently might makes right ....
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » June 14th, 2024, 1:44 am

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
coltspeed wrote:
sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
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United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

Gaza return the Bibas boys yet? Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpgScreenshot_20240613-063603.jpgScreenshot_20240613-062951.jpg

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Fake Zionists news
Rubbish


Killing, mistreatment and abduction in civilian locations

Hamas military wing, other Palestinian armed groups and civilians attacked distinct civilian targets in at least 24 localities, as well as public spaces and outdoor festivals. In these sites militants systematically moved from house to house setting homes on fire, shooting into private and public shelters, and removing people from hiding places, killing, injuring and abducting civilians to Gaza.

The Commission investigated six distinct attacks in Be’eri and eight attacks in Nir Oz, each involving multiple victims, largely from the same families.

In Be’eri, 105 civilians were killed (63 men and 42 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) as well as by civilians from Gaza. In addition, 31 civilians (13 men and 18 women) were abducted to the Gaza Strip. Attackers entered the kibbutz and shot at residents, cars, pets and houses, killing and injuring, setting houses on fire and abducting people to Gaza. In one case, a nine-month-old baby girl, was shot and killed while hiding with her mother in their safe room in Be’eri. In another case, at least four people were taken out of their homes and killed at the perimeter of the Be’eri, likely while being transferred to Gaza.

In Nir Oz, 46 civilians were killed (33 men and 13 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the PIJ, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, the armed wing of the Palestinian Mujahideen Movement and the armed wing of the Popular Resistance Committees. Palestinian civilians also participated in these killings. Seventy-two residents of the kibbutz (37 men and 35 women) were abducted to Gaza. In one case, a 79-year-old woman and her 12-year-old autistic granddaughter from Nir Oz were killed close to the perimeter fence with Gaza, allegedly because they were slowing down the retreat of their captors. In another case, a 70-year-old woman and her 73-year-old husband were attacked while out for a walk in the kibbutz. The woman was killed, while her partner was abducted to Gaza where he died in captivity.

Many Israeli families suffered a multigenerational impact with several members either killed or abducted to Gaza. In one case in Be’eri, a 48-year-old woman and her two teenage daughters were killed, while the father was abducted to Gaza. In Nir Oz, a family of five was hiding in their safe room when militants broke into the room, shot and killed both parents, and set fire to their home, which resulted in the killing of their three children from smoke suffocation. The children’s grandmother was shot dead in a different safe room in the kibbutz. In another case from Nir Oz, an entire family was abducted to Gaza, including both parents, a four-year-old boy and a 9-month-old baby. Two of the children’s grandparents were also killed in the attack and their bodies were found near the Gaza border.

Of 3,000 young people at the Nova music festival in Re'im, 364 attendees (including 215 men and 136 women) were killed by members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups, while around 40 others were abducted to Gaza. Victims were killed at the site of the main festival while attempting to hide under the festival stage, in portable public toilets, inside parked cars and in garbage containers. In one case, a man hid by a parked silver car, when Hamas militants shot him to death. Many of those killed were shot while running through a field east of the Nova site, trying to escape. Others were killed while hiding in stationary cars and in public shelters along road 232 where they sought refuge. Survivors in shelters reported lying for hours under piles of bodies waiting for first responders to arrive.

The Commission investigated the killing of civilians in four public shelters (near Re’im, Be’eri and Alumim). In all four locations, militants attacked the shelters using grenades and machine gun fire, shooting at any person attempting to escape. In a shelter near Re’im, the Commission found that militants also used a rocket propelled grenade. Militants abducted civilians to Gaza from the Re’im shelter, all of whom were suffering from serious injuries. The similar pattern of attack against these and other public shelters suggests that the attackers planned the modalities of the attacks in advance.

In Zikim beach, Hamas militants killed at least 18 civilians, including five teenagers (four boys and one girl), in a public shelter, public toilets and at other locations on the beach. Two boats carrying some 10 Hamas militants arrived at the beach at approximately 06:45. Hamas militants threw grenades into the shelter and then shot indiscriminately. The Commission reviewed and verified digital evidence of the attack on the toilet block showing five teenagers crouching while shooting is heard in the background. An ISF soldier is also present, engaging the militants and returning fire. In another video published by Hamas six dead bodies, including the five teenagers, are seen in the toilet block, all of whom appear to have been shot and killed.

The Commission found evidence of mistreatment of civilians and ISF members in several locations, and significant evidence on the desecration of corpses, including sexualized desecration, decapitations, lacerations, burning, severing of body parts and undressing.

The Commission estimates that some 130 older persons were killed in the attack. In one incident at a bus-stop in Sderot, militants shot and killed 13 civilians, eight of them were over the age of 65.

At least 68 foreign nationals were killed on 7 October. The Commission documented the torture, attempted beheading and killing of Thai workers in Nir Oz and the killing of 19 Thai and Nepalese exchange students in Alumim.

Killing of soldiers considered hors de combat and sexual and gender-based violence (SGBV) in Nahal Oz military outpost

The Commission investigated an attack on the Nahal Oz military outpost in which members of the military wing of Hamas and other armed groups killed 66 ISF soldiers, including one male soldier who was decapitated after death, and female intelligence observation soldiers (Tazpitaniyot), who were young, unarmed, and untrained for combat. The Commission found that militants killed at least 20 female soldiers and abducted seven. The Commission notes that in several cases these soldiers were visibly unarmed, wounded, hiding, captured and/or showing signs of having surrendered at the time of their abduction or killing, including one case where three female soldiers were hiding under a desk and shot and killed. The Commission finds reasonable grounds to believe that some soldiers were hors de combat and should not have been attacked.

The Commission found that seven female soldiers were taken to Gaza as hostages and viewed footage showing that they had been subjected to physical and verbal abuse. Four female bodies found at Nahal Oz outpost were partially or completely undressed, two of which were isolated in separate rooms, showing signs of physical abuse and sexual violence.

SGBV

The Commission found indications that members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups committed gender-based violence (GBV) in several locations in southern Israel on 7 October. These were not isolated incidents but perpetrated in similar ways in several locations and by multiple Palestinian perpetrators. The acts documented by the Commission reflected clear abuse of power by male perpetrators and a disregard for the special considerations and protection of women’s integrity and autonomy granted by international law.

Hamas military wing rejected all accusations that its forces committed sexual violence against Israeli women. However, the Commission documented cases indicative of sexual violence perpetrated against women and men in and around the Nova festival site, as well as the Nahal Oz military outpost and several kibbutzim, including Kfar Aza, Re’im and Nir Oz. It collected and preserved digital evidence, including images of victims’ bodies displaying indications of sexual violence, a pattern corroborated by independent testimonies from witnesses. Reliable witness accounts obtained by the Commission describe bodies that had been undressed, in some incidents with exposed genitals. The Commission received reports and verified digital evidence concerning the restraining of women, including hands and sometimes feet of women being bound, often behind the victims’ backs, prior to their abduction or killing. Additionally, the Commission made assessments based on the position of the body, for example images displaying legs spread or bent over, and signs of struggle or violence on the body, such as stab wounds, burns, lacerations and abrasions.

The Commission has reviewed testimonies obtained by journalists and the Israeli police concerning rape but has not been able to independently verify such allegations, due to a lack of access to victims, witnesses and crime sites and the obstruction of its investigations by the Israeli authorities. The Commission was unable to review the unedited version of such testimonies. For the same reasons, the Commission was also unable to verify reports of sexualized torture and genital mutilation. Additionally, the Commission found some specific allegations to be false, inaccurate or contradictory with other evidence or statements and discounted these from its assessment.

Civilian women were deliberately killed by militants during their abduction or while trying to escape, including in Be’eri, Mefalsim, Nir Oz and close to the Nova site. The Commission has documented three such cases with verified digital footage, showing that women were shot at close range while trying to escape.

Ninety women and girls were abducted to Gaza on 7 October. The Commission documented the physical and psychological violence in the process of several of these abductions. Many abductions were filmed, with women placed on the back of vehicles including motorbikes and brought to Gaza; acts committed with force, threat of force or the fear of violence. The abductees were forced to sit very close to their abductors and filmed during their abduction, in several cases placed between two men on a small motorbike, forcing them to coerced intimacy with their abductors. Female abductees have described how they were subjected to physical and psychological violence in the course of their abductions, being treated as “trophies” or “objects” or subjected to insults such as Jewish female dog. The Commission found that women were disproportionally affected by this type of gender-based crime and documented many cases with the same pattern, from both kibbutzim and the Nova festival.

Women and women’s bodies were used as victory trophies by male perpetrators. The abduction, violence and humiliation of women were put on public display, either on the streets of Gaza and/or by recording the bodies of women or the acts of the crime and publishing it online for propaganda purposes. This type of gender-based crime was identified by the Commission in many locations, women being the primary but not the only target.

The Commission documented the desecration of both male and female bodies, including sexual acts such as undressing the body and/or displaying it partially undressed in public. In several cases the victims' undressed bodies were displayed as a means of humiliation and disrespect, while these acts were filmed and disseminated. Militants posed with bodies in the streets of Gaza and in videos and photos, violating the personal dignity of the dead persons.

Impact on children

Forty Israeli children (at least 23 boys and 15 girls), including one under the age of two years and 10 under the age of 10 years, were killed and hundreds more were wounded on 7 October. Twenty children lost both their parents and 96 children lost one parent. In all the cases investigated by the Commission, militants attacked with full knowledge that children were present. In one case, three siblings from Kfar Aza witnessed the killing of their parents. One of the siblings, a three-year-old girl, was then abducted to Gaza, while her brother and sister spent 14 hours hiding in a wardrobe, waiting to be rescued.

The Commission found that children were instrumentalized by members of the military wing of Hamas and other armed groups with the intent of achieving specific political or strategic gains. In one case investigated by the Commission, militants used a 17-year-old boy in kibbutz Nahal Oz to lure his neighbours to open their houses, filmed and livestreamed his ordeal. He was later killed, while his 15- and eight-year-old stepsisters were abducted to Gaza. In Holit, two siblings, aged four and four-months respectively, witnessed the murder of their mother. They were then taken and held by a Hamas militant and filmed while the militant said: “look at the mercy in our hearts. Here are the children, we did not kill them.” The video was uploaded on the official Hamas military wing telegram for propaganda purposes. The two children were then taken to a neighbour’s house for the purpose of being abducted and were released on the way to the Gaza Strip. In these and other cases, children were removed from the protection and care of their parents and put in highly vulnerable situations with little ability to understand the situation or voice objection.

Children were also intentionally targeted for abduction. Thirty-six children were abducted to Gaza, 10 of whom were abducted alone, without parents or other family members. Thirty-four children were released in November 2023.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/co-israel/index

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » June 14th, 2024, 7:44 am

adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
coltspeed wrote:
sMASH wrote:The only just way to deal with oppression is residence .
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United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

Gaza return the Bibas boys yet? Screenshot_20240613-063733.jpgScreenshot_20240613-063603.jpgScreenshot_20240613-062951.jpg

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Killing, mistreatment and abduction in civilian locations

Hamas military wing, other Palestinian armed groups and civilians attacked distinct civilian targets in at least 24 localities, as well as public spaces and outdoor festivals. In these sites militants systematically moved from house to house setting homes on fire, shooting into private and public shelters, and removing people from hiding places, killing, injuring and abducting civilians to Gaza.

The Commission investigated six distinct attacks in Be’eri and eight attacks in Nir Oz, each involving multiple victims, largely from the same families.

In Be’eri, 105 civilians were killed (63 men and 42 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) as well as by civilians from Gaza. In addition, 31 civilians (13 men and 18 women) were abducted to the Gaza Strip. Attackers entered the kibbutz and shot at residents, cars, pets and houses, killing and injuring, setting houses on fire and abducting people to Gaza. In one case, a nine-month-old baby girl, was shot and killed while hiding with her mother in their safe room in Be’eri. In another case, at least four people were taken out of their homes and killed at the perimeter of the Be’eri, likely while being transferred to Gaza.

In Nir Oz, 46 civilians were killed (33 men and 13 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the PIJ, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, the armed wing of the Palestinian Mujahideen Movement and the armed wing of the Popular Resistance Committees. Palestinian civilians also participated in these killings. Seventy-two residents of the kibbutz (37 men and 35 women) were abducted to Gaza. In one case, a 79-year-old woman and her 12-year-old autistic granddaughter from Nir Oz were killed close to the perimeter fence with Gaza, allegedly because they were slowing down the retreat of their captors. In another case, a 70-year-old woman and her 73-year-old husband were attacked while out for a walk in the kibbutz. The woman was killed, while her partner was abducted to Gaza where he died in captivity.

Many Israeli families suffered a multigenerational impact with several members either killed or abducted to Gaza. In one case in Be’eri, a 48-year-old woman and her two teenage daughters were killed, while the father was abducted to Gaza. In Nir Oz, a family of five was hiding in their safe room when militants broke into the room, shot and killed both parents, and set fire to their home, which resulted in the killing of their three children from smoke suffocation. The children’s grandmother was shot dead in a different safe room in the kibbutz. In another case from Nir Oz, an entire family was abducted to Gaza, including both parents, a four-year-old boy and a 9-month-old baby. Two of the children’s grandparents were also killed in the attack and their bodies were found near the Gaza border.

Of 3,000 young people at the Nova music festival in Re'im, 364 attendees (including 215 men and 136 women) were killed by members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups, while around 40 others were abducted to Gaza. Victims were killed at the site of the main festival while attempting to hide under the festival stage, in portable public toilets, inside parked cars and in garbage containers. In one case, a man hid by a parked silver car, when Hamas militants shot him to death. Many of those killed were shot while running through a field east of the Nova site, trying to escape. Others were killed while hiding in stationary cars and in public shelters along road 232 where they sought refuge. Survivors in shelters reported lying for hours under piles of bodies waiting for first responders to arrive.

The Commission investigated the killing of civilians in four public shelters (near Re’im, Be’eri and Alumim). In all four locations, militants attacked the shelters using grenades and machine gun fire, shooting at any person attempting to escape. In a shelter near Re’im, the Commission found that militants also used a rocket propelled grenade. Militants abducted civilians to Gaza from the Re’im shelter, all of whom were suffering from serious injuries. The similar pattern of attack against these and other public shelters suggests that the attackers planned the modalities of the attacks in advance.

In Zikim beach, Hamas militants killed at least 18 civilians, including five teenagers (four boys and one girl), in a public shelter, public toilets and at other locations on the beach. Two boats carrying some 10 Hamas militants arrived at the beach at approximately 06:45. Hamas militants threw grenades into the shelter and then shot indiscriminately. The Commission reviewed and verified digital evidence of the attack on the toilet block showing five teenagers crouching while shooting is heard in the background. An ISF soldier is also present, engaging the militants and returning fire. In another video published by Hamas six dead bodies, including the five teenagers, are seen in the toilet block, all of whom appear to have been shot and killed.

The Commission found evidence of mistreatment of civilians and ISF members in several locations, and significant evidence on the desecration of corpses, including sexualized desecration, decapitations, lacerations, burning, severing of body parts and undressing.

The Commission estimates that some 130 older persons were killed in the attack. In one incident at a bus-stop in Sderot, militants shot and killed 13 civilians, eight of them were over the age of 65.

At least 68 foreign nationals were killed on 7 October. The Commission documented the torture, attempted beheading and killing of Thai workers in Nir Oz and the killing of 19 Thai and Nepalese exchange students in Alumim.

Killing of soldiers considered hors de combat and sexual and gender-based violence (SGBV) in Nahal Oz military outpost

The Commission investigated an attack on the Nahal Oz military outpost in which members of the military wing of Hamas and other armed groups killed 66 ISF soldiers, including one male soldier who was decapitated after death, and female intelligence observation soldiers (Tazpitaniyot), who were young, unarmed, and untrained for combat. The Commission found that militants killed at least 20 female soldiers and abducted seven. The Commission notes that in several cases these soldiers were visibly unarmed, wounded, hiding, captured and/or showing signs of having surrendered at the time of their abduction or killing, including one case where three female soldiers were hiding under a desk and shot and killed. The Commission finds reasonable grounds to believe that some soldiers were hors de combat and should not have been attacked.

The Commission found that seven female soldiers were taken to Gaza as hostages and viewed footage showing that they had been subjected to physical and verbal abuse. Four female bodies found at Nahal Oz outpost were partially or completely undressed, two of which were isolated in separate rooms, showing signs of physical abuse and sexual violence.

SGBV

The Commission found indications that members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups committed gender-based violence (GBV) in several locations in southern Israel on 7 October. These were not isolated incidents but perpetrated in similar ways in several locations and by multiple Palestinian perpetrators. The acts documented by the Commission reflected clear abuse of power by male perpetrators and a disregard for the special considerations and protection of women’s integrity and autonomy granted by international law.

Hamas military wing rejected all accusations that its forces committed sexual violence against Israeli women. However, the Commission documented cases indicative of sexual violence perpetrated against women and men in and around the Nova festival site, as well as the Nahal Oz military outpost and several kibbutzim, including Kfar Aza, Re’im and Nir Oz. It collected and preserved digital evidence, including images of victims’ bodies displaying indications of sexual violence, a pattern corroborated by independent testimonies from witnesses. Reliable witness accounts obtained by the Commission describe bodies that had been undressed, in some incidents with exposed genitals. The Commission received reports and verified digital evidence concerning the restraining of women, including hands and sometimes feet of women being bound, often behind the victims’ backs, prior to their abduction or killing. Additionally, the Commission made assessments based on the position of the body, for example images displaying legs spread or bent over, and signs of struggle or violence on the body, such as stab wounds, burns, lacerations and abrasions.

The Commission has reviewed testimonies obtained by journalists and the Israeli police concerning rape but has not been able to independently verify such allegations, due to a lack of access to victims, witnesses and crime sites and the obstruction of its investigations by the Israeli authorities. The Commission was unable to review the unedited version of such testimonies. For the same reasons, the Commission was also unable to verify reports of sexualized torture and genital mutilation. Additionally, the Commission found some specific allegations to be false, inaccurate or contradictory with other evidence or statements and discounted these from its assessment.

Civilian women were deliberately killed by militants during their abduction or while trying to escape, including in Be’eri, Mefalsim, Nir Oz and close to the Nova site. The Commission has documented three such cases with verified digital footage, showing that women were shot at close range while trying to escape.

Ninety women and girls were abducted to Gaza on 7 October. The Commission documented the physical and psychological violence in the process of several of these abductions. Many abductions were filmed, with women placed on the back of vehicles including motorbikes and brought to Gaza; acts committed with force, threat of force or the fear of violence. The abductees were forced to sit very close to their abductors and filmed during their abduction, in several cases placed between two men on a small motorbike, forcing them to coerced intimacy with their abductors. Female abductees have described how they were subjected to physical and psychological violence in the course of their abductions, being treated as “trophies” or “objects” or subjected to insults such as Jewish female dog. The Commission found that women were disproportionally affected by this type of gender-based crime and documented many cases with the same pattern, from both kibbutzim and the Nova festival.

Women and women’s bodies were used as victory trophies by male perpetrators. The abduction, violence and humiliation of women were put on public display, either on the streets of Gaza and/or by recording the bodies of women or the acts of the crime and publishing it online for propaganda purposes. This type of gender-based crime was identified by the Commission in many locations, women being the primary but not the only target.

The Commission documented the desecration of both male and female bodies, including sexual acts such as undressing the body and/or displaying it partially undressed in public. In several cases the victims' undressed bodies were displayed as a means of humiliation and disrespect, while these acts were filmed and disseminated. Militants posed with bodies in the streets of Gaza and in videos and photos, violating the personal dignity of the dead persons.

Impact on children

Forty Israeli children (at least 23 boys and 15 girls), including one under the age of two years and 10 under the age of 10 years, were killed and hundreds more were wounded on 7 October. Twenty children lost both their parents and 96 children lost one parent. In all the cases investigated by the Commission, militants attacked with full knowledge that children were present. In one case, three siblings from Kfar Aza witnessed the killing of their parents. One of the siblings, a three-year-old girl, was then abducted to Gaza, while her brother and sister spent 14 hours hiding in a wardrobe, waiting to be rescued.

The Commission found that children were instrumentalized by members of the military wing of Hamas and other armed groups with the intent of achieving specific political or strategic gains. In one case investigated by the Commission, militants used a 17-year-old boy in kibbutz Nahal Oz to lure his neighbours to open their houses, filmed and livestreamed his ordeal. He was later killed, while his 15- and eight-year-old stepsisters were abducted to Gaza. In Holit, two siblings, aged four and four-months respectively, witnessed the murder of their mother. They were then taken and held by a Hamas militant and filmed while the militant said: “look at the mercy in our hearts. Here are the children, we did not kill them.” The video was uploaded on the official Hamas military wing telegram for propaganda purposes. The two children were then taken to a neighbour’s house for the purpose of being abducted and were released on the way to the Gaza Strip. In these and other cases, children were removed from the protection and care of their parents and put in highly vulnerable situations with little ability to understand the situation or voice objection.

Children were also intentionally targeted for abduction. Thirty-six children were abducted to Gaza, 10 of whom were abducted alone, without parents or other family members. Thirty-four children were released in November 2023.

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United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) has explicitly affirmed the right of Palestinians to resist Israel’s military occupation, including through armed struggle. This right was affirmed in the context of the right to self-determination of all peoples under foreign and colonial rule.
The UN charter also affirms Israel's right to self-defense.

If taking babies is considered armed resistance guess what ....you going to have to learn to dodge 155mm artillery shells in your little enclave.

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Killing, mistreatment and abduction in civilian locations

Hamas military wing, other Palestinian armed groups and civilians attacked distinct civilian targets in at least 24 localities, as well as public spaces and outdoor festivals. In these sites militants systematically moved from house to house setting homes on fire, shooting into private and public shelters, and removing people from hiding places, killing, injuring and abducting civilians to Gaza.

The Commission investigated six distinct attacks in Be’eri and eight attacks in Nir Oz, each involving multiple victims, largely from the same families.

In Be’eri, 105 civilians were killed (63 men and 42 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) as well as by civilians from Gaza. In addition, 31 civilians (13 men and 18 women) were abducted to the Gaza Strip. Attackers entered the kibbutz and shot at residents, cars, pets and houses, killing and injuring, setting houses on fire and abducting people to Gaza. In one case, a nine-month-old baby girl, was shot and killed while hiding with her mother in their safe room in Be’eri. In another case, at least four people were taken out of their homes and killed at the perimeter of the Be’eri, likely while being transferred to Gaza.

In Nir Oz, 46 civilians were killed (33 men and 13 women) by members of the military wings of Hamas and the PIJ, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, the armed wing of the Palestinian Mujahideen Movement and the armed wing of the Popular Resistance Committees. Palestinian civilians also participated in these killings. Seventy-two residents of the kibbutz (37 men and 35 women) were abducted to Gaza. In one case, a 79-year-old woman and her 12-year-old autistic granddaughter from Nir Oz were killed close to the perimeter fence with Gaza, allegedly because they were slowing down the retreat of their captors. In another case, a 70-year-old woman and her 73-year-old husband were attacked while out for a walk in the kibbutz. The woman was killed, while her partner was abducted to Gaza where he died in captivity.

Many Israeli families suffered a multigenerational impact with several members either killed or abducted to Gaza. In one case in Be’eri, a 48-year-old woman and her two teenage daughters were killed, while the father was abducted to Gaza. In Nir Oz, a family of five was hiding in their safe room when militants broke into the room, shot and killed both parents, and set fire to their home, which resulted in the killing of their three children from smoke suffocation. The children’s grandmother was shot dead in a different safe room in the kibbutz. In another case from Nir Oz, an entire family was abducted to Gaza, including both parents, a four-year-old boy and a 9-month-old baby. Two of the children’s grandparents were also killed in the attack and their bodies were found near the Gaza border.

Of 3,000 young people at the Nova music festival in Re'im, 364 attendees (including 215 men and 136 women) were killed by members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups, while around 40 others were abducted to Gaza. Victims were killed at the site of the main festival while attempting to hide under the festival stage, in portable public toilets, inside parked cars and in garbage containers. In one case, a man hid by a parked silver car, when Hamas militants shot him to death. Many of those killed were shot while running through a field east of the Nova site, trying to escape. Others were killed while hiding in stationary cars and in public shelters along road 232 where they sought refuge. Survivors in shelters reported lying for hours under piles of bodies waiting for first responders to arrive.

The Commission investigated the killing of civilians in four public shelters (near Re’im, Be’eri and Alumim). In all four locations, militants attacked the shelters using grenades and machine gun fire, shooting at any person attempting to escape. In a shelter near Re’im, the Commission found that militants also used a rocket propelled grenade. Militants abducted civilians to Gaza from the Re’im shelter, all of whom were suffering from serious injuries. The similar pattern of attack against these and other public shelters suggests that the attackers planned the modalities of the attacks in advance.

In Zikim beach, Hamas militants killed at least 18 civilians, including five teenagers (four boys and one girl), in a public shelter, public toilets and at other locations on the beach. Two boats carrying some 10 Hamas militants arrived at the beach at approximately 06:45. Hamas militants threw grenades into the shelter and then shot indiscriminately. The Commission reviewed and verified digital evidence of the attack on the toilet block showing five teenagers crouching while shooting is heard in the background. An ISF soldier is also present, engaging the militants and returning fire. In another video published by Hamas six dead bodies, including the five teenagers, are seen in the toilet block, all of whom appear to have been shot and killed.

The Commission found evidence of mistreatment of civilians and ISF members in several locations, and significant evidence on the desecration of corpses, including sexualized desecration, decapitations, lacerations, burning, severing of body parts and undressing.

The Commission estimates that some 130 older persons were killed in the attack. In one incident at a bus-stop in Sderot, militants shot and killed 13 civilians, eight of them were over the age of 65.

At least 68 foreign nationals were killed on 7 October. The Commission documented the torture, attempted beheading and killing of Thai workers in Nir Oz and the killing of 19 Thai and Nepalese exchange students in Alumim.

Killing of soldiers considered hors de combat and sexual and gender-based violence (SGBV) in Nahal Oz military outpost

The Commission investigated an attack on the Nahal Oz military outpost in which members of the military wing of Hamas and other armed groups killed 66 ISF soldiers, including one male soldier who was decapitated after death, and female intelligence observation soldiers (Tazpitaniyot), who were young, unarmed, and untrained for combat. The Commission found that militants killed at least 20 female soldiers and abducted seven. The Commission notes that in several cases these soldiers were visibly unarmed, wounded, hiding, captured and/or showing signs of having surrendered at the time of their abduction or killing, including one case where three female soldiers were hiding under a desk and shot and killed. The Commission finds reasonable grounds to believe that some soldiers were hors de combat and should not have been attacked.

The Commission found that seven female soldiers were taken to Gaza as hostages and viewed footage showing that they had been subjected to physical and verbal abuse. Four female bodies found at Nahal Oz outpost were partially or completely undressed, two of which were isolated in separate rooms, showing signs of physical abuse and sexual violence.

SGBV

The Commission found indications that members of the military wing of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups committed gender-based violence (GBV) in several locations in southern Israel on 7 October. These were not isolated incidents but perpetrated in similar ways in several locations and by multiple Palestinian perpetrators. The acts documented by the Commission reflected clear abuse of power by male perpetrators and a disregard for the special considerations and protection of women’s integrity and autonomy granted by international law.

Hamas military wing rejected all accusations that its forces committed sexual violence against Israeli women. However, the Commission documented cases indicative of sexual violence perpetrated against women and men in and around the Nova festival site, as well as the Nahal Oz military outpost and several kibbutzim, including Kfar Aza, Re’im and Nir Oz. It collected and preserved digital evidence, including images of victims’ bodies displaying indications of sexual violence, a pattern corroborated by independent testimonies from witnesses. Reliable witness accounts obtained by the Commission describe bodies that had been undressed, in some incidents with exposed genitals. The Commission received reports and verified digital evidence concerning the restraining of women, including hands and sometimes feet of women being bound, often behind the victims’ backs, prior to their abduction or killing. Additionally, the Commission made assessments based on the position of the body, for example images displaying legs spread or bent over, and signs of struggle or violence on the body, such as stab wounds, burns, lacerations and abrasions.

The Commission has reviewed testimonies obtained by journalists and the Israeli police concerning rape but has not been able to independently verify such allegations, due to a lack of access to victims, witnesses and crime sites and the obstruction of its investigations by the Israeli authorities. The Commission was unable to review the unedited version of such testimonies. For the same reasons, the Commission was also unable to verify reports of sexualized torture and genital mutilation. Additionally, the Commission found some specific allegations to be false, inaccurate or contradictory with other evidence or statements and discounted these from its assessment.

Civilian women were deliberately killed by militants during their abduction or while trying to escape, including in Be’eri, Mefalsim, Nir Oz and close to the Nova site. The Commission has documented three such cases with verified digital footage, showing that women were shot at close range while trying to escape.

Ninety women and girls were abducted to Gaza on 7 October. The Commission documented the physical and psychological violence in the process of several of these abductions. Many abductions were filmed, with women placed on the back of vehicles including motorbikes and brought to Gaza; acts committed with force, threat of force or the fear of violence. The abductees were forced to sit very close to their abductors and filmed during their abduction, in several cases placed between two men on a small motorbike, forcing them to coerced intimacy with their abductors. Female abductees have described how they were subjected to physical and psychological violence in the course of their abductions, being treated as “trophies” or “objects” or subjected to insults such as Jewish female dog. The Commission found that women were disproportionally affected by this type of gender-based crime and documented many cases with the same pattern, from both kibbutzim and the Nova festival.

Women and women’s bodies were used as victory trophies by male perpetrators. The abduction, violence and humiliation of women were put on public display, either on the streets of Gaza and/or by recording the bodies of women or the acts of the crime and publishing it online for propaganda purposes. This type of gender-based crime was identified by the Commission in many locations, women being the primary but not the only target.

The Commission documented the desecration of both male and female bodies, including sexual acts such as undressing the body and/or displaying it partially undressed in public. In several cases the victims' undressed bodies were displayed as a means of humiliation and disrespect, while these acts were filmed and disseminated. Militants posed with bodies in the streets of Gaza and in videos and photos, violating the personal dignity of the dead persons.

Impact on children

Forty Israeli children (at least 23 boys and 15 girls), including one under the age of two years and 10 under the age of 10 years, were killed and hundreds more were wounded on 7 October. Twenty children lost both their parents and 96 children lost one parent. In all the cases investigated by the Commission, militants attacked with full knowledge that children were present. In one case, three siblings from Kfar Aza witnessed the killing of their parents. One of the siblings, a three-year-old girl, was then abducted to Gaza, while her brother and sister spent 14 hours hiding in a wardrobe, waiting to be rescued.

The Commission found that children were instrumentalized by members of the military wing of Hamas and other armed groups with the intent of achieving specific political or strategic gains. In one case investigated by the Commission, militants used a 17-year-old boy in kibbutz Nahal Oz to lure his neighbours to open their houses, filmed and livestreamed his ordeal. He was later killed, while his 15- and eight-year-old stepsisters were abducted to Gaza. In Holit, two siblings, aged four and four-months respectively, witnessed the murder of their mother. They were then taken and held by a Hamas militant and filmed while the militant said: “look at the mercy in our hearts. Here are the children, we did not kill them.” The video was uploaded on the official Hamas military wing telegram for propaganda purposes. The two children were then taken to a neighbour’s house for the purpose of being abducted and were released on the way to the Gaza Strip. In these and other cases, children were removed from the protection and care of their parents and put in highly vulnerable situations with little ability to understand the situation or voice objection.

Children were also intentionally targeted for abduction. Thirty-six children were abducted to Gaza, 10 of whom were abducted alone, without parents or other family members. Thirty-four children were released in November 2023.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/co-israel/index
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Today marks 17year since the dissoultion of the Unity Govnt in the Palestinian Territories and the lead up to the sole control of Gaza by Hamas.

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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ is it sole control?

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/gaza-strip ... rcna119405


Measures in place because those people would actually genocide Jews if they had the means

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Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:^ is it sole control?

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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/gaza-strip ... rcna119405


Measures in place because those people would actually genocide Jews if they had the means
More propaganda , misinformation , defense of subjugation

At one point they banned chocolate...which Obama thought was just too much and got them to allow it



Some times it can be used for terrorism and sometimes it does not ?
If it can be allowed, it means that the restrictions are arbitrary. And merely another dehumanizing measure .



We got a taste of that for the pandemic where many restrictions didn't make sense.. Justified by weak logic .
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https://youtu.be/6pTYHBZVgVQ?si=YVwblS6yLtKXrYtJ

This is the 3d render of the hamas head quarters that isrsel had surveiled under the al shifa hospital ... The one they said justified the obliteration of the health facility and the people there.



More war crimes

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In other news, the contract to trade oil in $US expired recently and the KSA did not renew.
That means $us gonna devalue hard.

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Pity we wouldn't be around in 100 years to see nothing has changed.
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Dizzy28 wrote:Pity we wouldn't be around in 100 years to see nothing has changed. Screenshot_20240614-203836.jpg

How did they conduct this survey and interview a sufficient amount of people in the middle of bombs landing left, right and center?
People are literally starving but have time to come out a makeshift tent to answer a questionaire?

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Supposed to the the Isreali hostage held by hamas in raffa
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One of the hostages retrieved recently has called for more protests on tel Aviv.

The protests on tel Aviv is against the continued war and for ceasefire negotiated release .

He doesn't see the military method of retrieving hostages as effective.
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Reading tea leaves ?
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sMASH wrote:Supposed to the the Isreali hostage held by hamas in raffa
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Choosing the Syrian girl path I see

Fatima Shahin was a Palestinian terrorist arrested after stabbing Israelis.
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sMASH wrote:One of the hostages retrieved recently has called for more protests on tel Aviv.

The protests on tel Aviv is against the continued war and for ceasefire negotiated release .

He doesn't see the military method of retrieving hostages as effective.IMG_20240615_063425.jpg


Andrey Kozlov, one of the hostages rescued during Operation Arnon last week, along with Noa Argamani, Shlomi Ziv, and Almog Meir Jan, released a video on Friday evening, urging the public to attend the rally in support of the hostages and their families at "Hostages Square" in Tel Aviv on Saturday.

In the video, Kozlov, 27, says: "Hello, I'm Andrey Kozlov, and I'm already in Israel at home, but a lot of hostages are still there in Gaza."

I saw a lot of rallies on Saturday, and it gave me a lot of hope," he continued. "I ask you to come and support families and hostages to Kikar Hahatufim (Hostages Square) this Saturday. Thank you, Toda Raba and Shabbat Shalom."

This video marks the first time that Kozlov has spoken out since his release from Hamas captivity six days ago.


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Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Supposed to the the Isreali hostage held by hamas in raffa
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Choosing the Syrian girl path I see

Fatima Shahin was a Palestinian terrorist arrested after stabbing Israelis.
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That person , was shot in the stomach and left to bleed out, befure being arrested and sent fir surgery.

Thar Pic and that story is not the same person .


And around that time there were many lone knife welding attackers , who just happened to attack when a lot of idf around to catch them immediately ...
And the punishment for such a crime was to forfeit ur house in occupied Jerusalem to an Israeli .

Many many Isrealies had alterations with Palestinians ,and many houses were forfeited ...
Very convenient

U never really saw the story about a stabbing victim , but u alway saw that a Palestinian stabber was shot.. And if u remembered the names , later found out that the property was forfeited
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