Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

[Habit7]

Consolidated fund = Government bank account. Once $ goes in whom ever is the ruling government can spend it anyway they chooses.

And that right there is the problem.
They touting this tax and saying "is to finance operations in the regional corporations", but administering it in a way that's contrary of the purpose for which it exists.

But the tax hasn’t been collected as yet. But you accusing them of administering it in a way that's contrary of the purpose for which it exists?

This is why PNM has been winning consistently. They implement a harsh measure, UNC and likeminded ppl run around with their hair on fire proclaiming the sky is falling. The sky doesn’t fall and PNM looks rational and responsible while the opposition look wild eyed and crazy. This happened for Petrotrin and Covid.

I just shared the law that explicitly says “Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.”

It is not going into the Consolidation Fund. It is being collected by the PNM/UNC corporations and being put in the Corporation Fund. That is a fund that doesn’t even pay salaries, it is directly for services and infrastructure in the Corporation.

If property taxes so bad, why the need to lie about it?

[lalloboy101]

so for the last few years, cepep doesnt maintain the area, they stop short out the road as the councillor said its a budgetary issue. When this tax is paid am i to assume things like this would be addressed, i highly doubt.
I have to pay out of pocket to clean drains or do it myself. Garbage from the trucks is scattered along the roadway

[matr1x]

Consolidated fund = Government bank account. Once $ goes in whom ever is the ruling government can spend it anyway they chooses.

And that right there is the problem.
They touting this tax and saying "is to finance operations in the regional corporations", but administering it in a way that's contrary of the purpose for which it exists.

But the tax hasn’t been collected as yet. But you accusing them of administering it in a way that's contrary of the purpose for which it exists?

This is why PNM has been winning consistently. They implement a harsh measure, UNC and likeminded ppl run around with their hair on fire proclaiming the sky is falling. The sky doesn’t fall and PNM looks rational and responsible while the opposition look wild eyed and crazy. This happened for Petrotrin and Covid.

I just shared the law that explicitly says “Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.”

It is not going into the Consolidation Fund. It is being collected by the PNM/UNC corporations and being put in the Corporation Fund. That is a fund that doesn’t even pay salaries, it is directly for services and infrastructure in the Corporation.

If property taxes so bad, why the need to lie about it?

Because even in the states, property taxes are often not spent.on what is promised. You sit down there and think that.money.not getting tief out

[88sins]

Consolidated fund = Government bank account. Once $ goes in whom ever is the ruling government can spend it anyway they chooses.

And that right there is the problem.
They touting this tax and saying "is to finance operations in the regional corporations", but administering it in a way that's contrary of the purpose for which it exists.

But the tax hasn’t been collected as yet. But you accusing them of administering it in a way that's contrary of the purpose for which it exists?

This is why PNM has been winning consistently. They implement a harsh measure, UNC and likeminded ppl run around with their hair on fire proclaiming the sky is falling. The sky doesn’t fall and PNM looks rational and responsible while the opposition look wild eyed and crazy. This happened for Petrotrin and Covid.

I just shared the law that explicitly says “Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.”

It is not going into the Consolidation Fund. It is being collected by the PNM/UNC corporations and being put in the Corporation Fund. That is a fund that doesn’t even pay salaries, it is directly for services and infrastructure in the Corporation.

If property taxes so bad, why the need to lie about it?

Your statement is that the tax hasn't been collected yet, so, the notices of assessment that ppl finding in their mailbox, indicating their tax liability, those are love letters from BIR? Those notices can be disregarded because nobody will ever have to pay them right?

Now, you mention section 109, but lemme ask you this.
As of right now, if they said "property tax is due and payable effective Friday 8th March 2024" which regional corporations are going to be collecting these property tax payments directly from property owners and using said funds solely in their region? because iirc, as of right now, when these tax dollars are going to be collected they will be collected by by BIR, that much has been made clear
and they will NOT be collected by the regional corporations.
So, what i want you to do is this.
Explain to the masses, exactly how is the regional corporation supposed to have control over those funds that are not and were never in their possession or under their control, funds that are actually under the control and possession of the central government?
And your answer can't be "because of section 109", because what on the law books in section 109 isn't being adhered to at the moment.

[Habit7]

If you don’t believe:
“Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.”

Then why are you believing you have to pay property tax? You are believing in the law that makes you obligated to pay property tax but not the law on how it is to be collected, retained and spent?

Pick your struggle. Either you believe in no laws and live like an anarchist. Or believe in the law that says you have to pay and if your money is not spent as the law dictates, use the same law and sue the govt.

Stop with the crazy tin foil hat speculations and be consistent.

[wing]

If you don’t believe:
“Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.”

Then why are you believing you have to pay property tax? You are believing in the law that makes you obligated to pay property tax but not the law on how it is to be collected, retained and spent?

Pick your struggle. Either you believe in no laws and live like an anarchist. Or believe in the law that says you have to pay and if your money is not spent as the law dictates, use the same law and sue the govt.

Stop with the crazy tin foil hat speculations and be consistent.

Leave him alone. He riding out to Canada just now. I wonder what he will do when Justin gets booted and Polievre comes in and starts squeezing immigrants and putting native Canadians first. I suspect he'll be glad to pay the tax, no questions when they're sent back.

[88sins]

If you don’t believe:
“Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.”

Then why are you believing you have to pay property tax? You are believing in the law that makes you obligated to pay property tax but not the law on how it is to be collected, retained and spent?

Pick your struggle. Either you believe in no laws and live like an anarchist. Or believe in the law that says you have to pay and if your money is not spent as the law dictates, use the same law and sue the govt.

Stop with the crazy tin foil hat speculations and be consistent.

Which corporations are going to be collecting this tax and spending what they collected?

[DMan7]

If the property tax is being redistributed to the regional corporation is there a process where the government is tracking the people who've paid the property tax and the area they live in so as to take their tax and give to that persons specific regional corporation in the area they belong?

[Habit7]

Oh so now you want facts to inform your opinion? Don't worry, everything going to crash and burn.

[88sins]

What I want is for you to start using your head for something other than as a hat rack & a place to hold nonsense.
So, since you seem to want to appear to be well versed wrt this property tax, you should be able to answer the question. If you can't, just say you can't, and that's the end of that.
So, I'll ask you again

Which corporations are going to be collecting this tax and spending what they collected?



And just so you know,I have an issue with property tax in general, because the idea that you have to pay an entity for them to let you keep something that is supposedly yours, and very much in particular when it is being levied upon a population under false pretenses.

[assassin]

Consolidated fund = Government bank account. Once $ goes in whom ever is the ruling government can spend it anyway they chooses.

And that right there is the problem.
They touting this tax and saying "is to finance operations in the regional corporations", but administering it in a way that's contrary of the purpose for which it exists.

But the tax hasn’t been collected as yet. But you accusing them of administering it in a way that's contrary of the purpose for which it exists?

This is why PNM has been winning consistently. They implement a harsh measure, UNC and likeminded ppl run around with their hair on fire proclaiming the sky is falling. The sky doesn’t fall and PNM looks rational and responsible while the opposition look wild eyed and crazy. This happened for Petrotrin and Covid.

I just shared the law that explicitly says “Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.”

It is not going into the Consolidation Fund. It is being collected by the PNM/UNC corporations and being put in the Corporation Fund. That is a fund that doesn’t even pay salaries, it is directly for services and infrastructure in the Corporation.

If property taxes so bad, why the need to lie about it?

I do not believe this to be accurate.
Weren't Local Gov Reform and legislative amendments required for Corporations to be able to receive and disburse their own funds? I do not believe the amendments are in place

Corporations are allocated sums of money by MOF and have to request releases to meet expenditure

[Habit7]

I do not believe this to be accurate.
Weren't Local Gov Reform and legislative amendments required for Corporations to be able to receive and disburse their own funds? I do not believe the amendments are in place

Corporations are allocated sums of money by MOF and have to request releases to meet expenditure

This was the amendment:

The Miscellaneous Provisions (Local Government) Act, 2022
78. (1)A Municipal Corporation shall be responsible for the collection of property taxes in relation to residential land within its Municipality.
(2)Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.
https://www.ttparliament.org/publicatio ... -act-2022/

It was assented to 1 July 2022. That was the same amendments that extended to term of Local govt which was then challenged all the way up the Privy Council by the UNC and the govt lost. Nevertheless, MOF still allocates releases to municipalities but according to ACT which means it is proclaimed law, the municipalities will collect property tax and retain it within themselves.

[88sins]

I do not believe this to be accurate.
Weren't Local Gov Reform and legislative amendments required for Corporations to be able to receive and disburse their own funds? I do not believe the amendments are in place

Corporations are allocated sums of money by MOF and have to request releases to meet expenditure

This was the amendment:

The Miscellaneous Provisions (Local Government) Act, 2022
78. (1)A Municipal Corporation shall be responsible for the collection of property taxes in relation to residential land within its Municipality.
(2)Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.
https://www.ttparliament.org/publicatio ... -act-2022/

It was assented to 1 July 2022. That was the same amendments that extended to term of Local govt which was then challenged all the way up the Privy Council by the UNC and the govt lost. Nevertheless, MOF still allocates releases to municipalities but according to ACT which means it is proclaimed law, the municipalities will collect property tax and retain it within themselves.

Which corporations are going to be collecting this tax and spending what they collected?

[matr1x]

Habit is the kinda man that will try to convince a rape victim that she benefit from it.


Dotish man

[assassin]

I do not believe this to be accurate.
Weren't Local Gov Reform and legislative amendments required for Corporations to be able to receive and disburse their own funds? I do not believe the amendments are in place

Corporations are allocated sums of money by MOF and have to request releases to meet expenditure

This was the amendment:

The Miscellaneous Provisions (Local Government) Act, 2022
78. (1)A Municipal Corporation shall be responsible for the collection of property taxes in relation to residential land within its Municipality.
(2)Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.
https://www.ttparliament.org/publicatio ... -act-2022/

It was assented to 1 July 2022. That was the same amendments that extended to term of Local govt which was then challenged all the way up the Privy Council by the UNC and the govt lost. Nevertheless, MOF still allocates releases to municipalities but according to ACT which means it is proclaimed law, the municipalities will collect property tax and retain it within themselves.

Thanks for this.

Current property tax valuations are payable by Sept 30, 2024 and payment is to be made at Inland Revenue. But IRD/ District Revenue Offices are under MOF and not MRDLG.

I'm interested to see how the transfer of the collected tax to the Corporations will be done. Maybe adjustments to the process will be made in the new Fiscal Year.

[Habit7]

I do not believe this to be accurate.
Weren't Local Gov Reform and legislative amendments required for Corporations to be able to receive and disburse their own funds? I do not believe the amendments are in place

Corporations are allocated sums of money by MOF and have to request releases to meet expenditure

This was the amendment:

The Miscellaneous Provisions (Local Government) Act, 2022
78. (1)A Municipal Corporation shall be responsible for the collection of property taxes in relation to residential land within its Municipality.
(2)Where a Municipal Corporation collects property taxes on residential land in its Municipality, it shall retain such taxes in its Corporation Fund established under section 109.
https://www.ttparliament.org/publicatio ... -act-2022/

It was assented to 1 July 2022. That was the same amendments that extended to term of Local govt which was then challenged all the way up the Privy Council by the UNC and the govt lost. Nevertheless, MOF still allocates releases to municipalities but according to ACT which means it is proclaimed law, the municipalities will collect property tax and retain it within themselves.

Thanks for this.

Current property tax valuations are payable by Sept 30, 2024 and payment is to be made at Inland Revenue. But IRD/ District Revenue Offices are under MOF and not MRDLG.

I'm interested to see how the transfer of the collected tax to the Corporations will be done. Maybe adjustments to the process will be made in the new Fiscal Year.

No problem.

As you could clearly see the law say local govt is responsible for collecting the tax. In Sept we will see.

[zoom rader]

Habit is the kinda man that will try to convince a rape victim that she benefit from it.


Dotish man

He only come out when elections is around the corner, spills propaganda, spins and misdirects idiots on tuner.

A true paid blogger

[wing]

Habit is the kinda man that will try to convince a rape victim that she benefit from it.


Dotish man

He only come out when elections is around the corner, spills propaganda, spins and misdirects idiots on tuner.

A true paid blogger

Getting paid to further a narrative and antagonize the simpletons on trinituner? While the opposition forces in disarray and unable to pay for their bloggers? Radar, influencer, music seller, sinner, no money and others doing it for free?

[zoom rader]

Habit is the kinda man that will try to convince a rape victim that she benefit from it.


Dotish man

He only come out when elections is around the corner, spills propaganda, spins and misdirects idiots on tuner.

A true paid blogger

Getting paid to further a narrative and antagonize the simpletons on trinituner? While the opposition forces in disarray and unable to pay for their bloggers? Radar, influencer, music seller, sinner, no money and others doing it for free?

Opposition in disarray, as you stated, then there is no need for idiots bloggers such as urself and PőrnHabit7.

[wing]

Habit is the kinda man that will try to convince a rape victim that she benefit from it.


Dotish man

He only come out when elections is around the corner, spills propaganda, spins and misdirects idiots on tuner.

A true paid blogger

Getting paid to further a narrative and antagonize the simpletons on trinituner? While the opposition forces in disarray and unable to pay for their bloggers? Radar, influencer, music seller, sinner, no money and others doing it for free?

Opposition in disarray, as you stated, then there is no need for idiots bloggers such as urself and PőrnHabit7.

But money passing, not so? Plus the speed which the backpedal and insults start makes for good entertainment. Especially knowing the yellow bloggers have to hold strain until Jack decides to sponsor some of you all.
Anyway, let's keep it on topic.

[matr1x]

What of you can't pay?

[88sins]

What of you can't pay?

Beg for a deferral, get blank, accrue tax+10% penalty annually+15% interest pro-rated daily until you either pay, or they walk into yuh house and take whatever they feel they can sell to get what you "owe" them, or they evict you and seize your house that you "own".


Because if a pensioner in his 70's that get a $600/month tax note while he living on a $3000/month pension apply and get blank, (that's less than minimum wage btw, average minimum wage is roughly $3553.00/month), who is you?

[88sins]

But I seriously doubt that Habitual idiot would have any issues with this either. I here still waiting to see which corporation he think gonna be administering this tax. Well, not really waiting
He so hung up on "what d law say", that he eh realize local politicians have proven that they possess absolutely zero compunction wrt twisting or disregarding the very same laws that they themselves pass, and they intentionally create loopholes that they use to circumvent laws themselves whilst the rest of the population "must obey the law".
But I don't expect less from a pnm sycophant.

[matr1x]

I hearing a word that the influencer who went up in lavantille was paid and it was a stunt by a minister





Allegedly.

What the have to do with property taxes? It's a trick to steal land

[bluefete]

I hearing a word that the influencer who went up in lavantille was paid and it was a stunt by a minister

Allegedly.

What the have to do with property taxes? It's a trick to steal land

Yuh know how long they looking to thief land in Laventille - especially up the hill with the 1% view.

[88sins]

I hearing a word that the influencer who went up in lavantille was paid and it was a stunt by a minister

Allegedly.

What the have to do with property taxes? It's a trick to steal land

Yuh know how long they looking to thief land in Laventille - especially up the hill with the 1% view.

Laventille, Sea Lots, and Beetham.
If yuh kno how BAAAAAAAAAD certain people want to get people out and take control them areas, especially Sea Lots.

[matr1x]

And then send the human excrement to central and south

[88sins]

And then send the human excrement to central and south

Well that was a tad harsh.
But to be fair, shiddy ppl can be found anywhere and everywhere bro, and are legally free to live anywhere and everywhere.
dbu about it.
You never know, a former Beethamite may just move down south, and that may turn out to be just the catalyst he/she needed to become a pillar of excellence and a role model for society.

Or maybe not

But yuh never kno

[wing]

And then send the human excrement to central and south

Well that was a tad harsh.
But to be fair, shiddy ppl can be found anywhere and everywhere bro, and are legally free to live anywhere and everywhere.
dbu about it.
You never know, a former Beethamite may just move down south, and that may turn out to be just the catalyst he/she needed to become a pillar of excellence and a role model for society.

Or maybe not

But yuh never kno

They already here...in Tarodale, Embacadere, Trainline, St. John, Windsor park, Pleasantville and others. And that's just around Sando.

[j.o.e]

And then send the human excrement to central and south

Well that was a tad harsh.
But to be fair, shiddy ppl can be found anywhere and everywhere bro, and are legally free to live anywhere and everywhere.
dbu about it.
You never know, a former Beethamite may just move down south, and that may turn out to be just the catalyst he/she needed to become a pillar of excellence and a role model for society.

Or maybe not

But yuh never kno

They already here...in Tarodale, Embacadere, Trainline, St. John, Windsor park, Pleasantville and others. And that's just around Sando.

Where is Windsor Park? Never heard of it and I’m from Sando