rename NAPA to Patrick Manning Academy for the Performing Arts

[Redman]

Like I said...good company.

[Rovin]

i now reading this thread & coming to type d same ting

very simple solution

u dont want to be removing 1 man name to put ah next man , especially when ppl does say race for every lil ting in this country ....

Well if Stalin was born on Library Corner, they could name that after him. It's a famous well known spot in the City and as a San Fernandian I do not have a problem with that. They could erect a statue somewhere by the clock in his honour as well.

But I don't see why he had to bring up the talk about Sundar and SAPA other than to cast aspersions on people's motives and to denigrate (ever so slightly...) Popo's name in the process.

Junia come across as a petty political stooge with that statement.

[Rovin]

seems like regrello like to rename ting

he is some kinda specialist authority hired to be renaming jesso jesso ?


i not from sando so i dunno d history of d name bertrand - anybody knows & can educate us ? .....

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/streets- ... 883f844302

A street in San Fer­nan­do will soon be re­named af­ter steel­pan arranger and ex­tra­or­di­naire pan­nist Ken “Pro­fes­sor” Philmore, three months af­ter he died in an ac­ci­dent in south Trinidad.

This was re­vealed by San Fer­nan­do may­or Ju­nia Re­grel­lo dur­ing the cor­po­ra­tion’s month­ly statu­to­ry meet­ing held at City Hall yes­ter­day.

Re­grel­lo said oth­er street names will be changed to ho­n­our the leg­ends of the city.

Re­grel­lo said Bertrand Street will be re­named the Rod­ney Wilkes Street in ho­n­our of the T&T’s first medal­ist who won the gold medal at the 1946 Cen­tral Amer­i­can and Caribbean Games in Bar­ran­quil­la, Colom­bia.

Wilkes, who was known as the Mighty Midget, trained in weightlift­ing us­ing flour bags to build his strength.

Since 2011, res­i­dent Patrick Lau­rence called for a street to be named in ho­n­our of Wilkes. Lau­rence said Wilkes was 23 years old when he won the sil­ver Olympic medal with­out the ben­e­fit of in­ter­na­tion­al train­ing.

Mean­while, Re­grel­lo al­so an­nounced that Quen­ca Street will be re­named the Dr Ru­pert In­dar Snr Street.

In­dar, who opened the first med­ical cen­tre in the city in 1970, is 92 years old. He al­so opened the first On­col­o­gy Cen­tre in the coun­try.

Re­grel­lo fur­ther said that T&T’s first Olympic cham­pi­on and the first Olympic 100m cham­pi­on from a Caribbean coun­try Hase­ly Craw­ford will al­so be ho­n­oured as In­de­pen­dence Av­enue will be re­named af­ter him.

Philmore, 58, died in Sep­tem­ber, six days af­ter his Toy­ota Hilux skid­ded along the north­bound car­riage­way of the Solomon Ho­choy high­way and flipped sev­er­al times. He suf­fered se­vere in­ter­nal in­juries in the crash which oc­curred on the Re­pub­lic Day hol­i­day. Fol­low­ing his death, Re­grel­lo, a per­son­al friend, said a fit­ting trib­ute will be giv­en to Philmore.

Dur­ing a meet­ing in De­cem­ber, the San Fer­nan­do City Coun­cil con­firmed the re­nam­ing of the stretch from Par­adise Street to Li­brary Cor­ner as Lennox “Bob­by” Mo­hammed Street; In­de­pen­dence Av­enue in a west­er­ly di­rec­tion to Hat­ters pa­n­yard as Steve Achai­ba Street; Low­er High Street in an east­er­ly di­rec­tion to Quen­ca Street ad­ja­cent to Re­pub­lic Bank as Robert Mon­tano Street; Cros­by Lane to JD Guides Lane; and Cof­fee Street, in a souther­ly di­rec­tion to Me­dine Street, as Bel­groves Lane.

[zoom rader]

seems like regrello like to rename ting

he is some kinda specialist authority hired to be renaming jesso jesso ?


i not from sando so i dunno d history of d name bertrand - anybody knows & can educate us ? .....

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/streets- ... 883f844302

A street in San Fer­nan­do will soon be re­named af­ter steel­pan arranger and ex­tra­or­di­naire pan­nist Ken “Pro­fes­sor” Philmore, three months af­ter he died in an ac­ci­dent in south Trinidad.

This was re­vealed by San Fer­nan­do may­or Ju­nia Re­grel­lo dur­ing the cor­po­ra­tion’s month­ly statu­to­ry meet­ing held at City Hall yes­ter­day.

Re­grel­lo said oth­er street names will be changed to ho­n­our the leg­ends of the city.

Re­grel­lo said Bertrand Street will be re­named the Rod­ney Wilkes Street in ho­n­our of the T&T’s first medal­ist who won the gold medal at the 1946 Cen­tral Amer­i­can and Caribbean Games in Bar­ran­quil­la, Colom­bia.

Wilkes, who was known as the Mighty Midget, trained in weightlift­ing us­ing flour bags to build his strength.

Since 2011, res­i­dent Patrick Lau­rence called for a street to be named in ho­n­our of Wilkes. Lau­rence said Wilkes was 23 years old when he won the sil­ver Olympic medal with­out the ben­e­fit of in­ter­na­tion­al train­ing.

Mean­while, Re­grel­lo al­so an­nounced that Quen­ca Street will be re­named the Dr Ru­pert In­dar Snr Street.

In­dar, who opened the first med­ical cen­tre in the city in 1970, is 92 years old. He al­so opened the first On­col­o­gy Cen­tre in the coun­try.

Re­grel­lo fur­ther said that T&T’s first Olympic cham­pi­on and the first Olympic 100m cham­pi­on from a Caribbean coun­try Hase­ly Craw­ford will al­so be ho­n­oured as In­de­pen­dence Av­enue will be re­named af­ter him.

Philmore, 58, died in Sep­tem­ber, six days af­ter his Toy­ota Hilux skid­ded along the north­bound car­riage­way of the Solomon Ho­choy high­way and flipped sev­er­al times. He suf­fered se­vere in­ter­nal in­juries in the crash which oc­curred on the Re­pub­lic Day hol­i­day. Fol­low­ing his death, Re­grel­lo, a per­son­al friend, said a fit­ting trib­ute will be giv­en to Philmore.

Dur­ing a meet­ing in De­cem­ber, the San Fer­nan­do City Coun­cil con­firmed the re­nam­ing of the stretch from Par­adise Street to Li­brary Cor­ner as Lennox “Bob­by” Mo­hammed Street; In­de­pen­dence Av­enue in a west­er­ly di­rec­tion to Hat­ters pa­n­yard as Steve Achai­ba Street; Low­er High Street in an east­er­ly di­rec­tion to Quen­ca Street ad­ja­cent to Re­pub­lic Bank as Robert Mon­tano Street; Cros­by Lane to JD Guides Lane; and Cof­fee Street, in a souther­ly di­rec­tion to Me­dine Street, as Bel­groves Lane.

In this case Phillmore should get the honour of his own street.

Phillmore was a real San Do man and put Trini on the world map where Pan is concerned .

Weeks actually lived on Bertrand st and has a barbell in his yard as a monument. He deserves it.

Bertrand st, is a link between Narvet road and Rushworth St. Mostly busy in rush hours.

[Rovin]

yea i know bertrand street very good , passed there alot like a shortcut when i in sando

wasnt fighting anything down eh , was jes asking what is d history behind it .....

[zoom rader]

yea i know bertrand street very good , passed there alot like a shortcut when i in sando

wasnt fighting anything down eh , was jes asking what is d history behind it .....

Most of the streets in San was named from prominent folk some where slave owners from the 1800s.

So it's fitting to delete these slave owners .

[pugboy]

the constant need and demand to name things after persons is a true reflection of a third world thinking society
it like dog and cat always peeing to make a statement

regrello is not the first to rename, pos mayor tim kee renamed king george v park to nelson mandela a few years ago
he want to erase the history, just shows the mentality
history should not be erased

[Redman]

The challenge is to respect history and balance that with need to remain relevant to its current population.

[zoom rader]

the constant need and demand to name things after persons is a true reflection of a third world thinking society
it like dog and cat always peeing to make a statement

regrello is not the first to rename, pos mayor tim kee renamed king george v park to nelson mandela a few years ago
he want to erase the history, just shows the mentality
history should not be erased

It should be erased if a street was named after a slave owner or folk who supported slavery.

Mandela gets an honour is ok.

[De Dragon]

Like I said...good company.

And like I said you'll ALWAYS be immune to arsery/racism/disparaging of people's name once it is PNM politicians perpetrating it. Your pathetic attempts to sound dismissive are also so predictable, it isn't funny

[Redman]

If my Allegance is so obvious...why you keep stating the obvious...while avoiding the question.

Dragon point out where his statement used race.
Not your interpretation.
His words.

Giving his entire speech equal weight... You show where he ill spoke Sundar Popo and his race.

Use his words....not your spin.


Show where he said anything to do with Popo,s race being an issue.
Use his words.

I would be grateful...

[De Dragon]

If my Allegance is so obvious...why you keep stating the obvious...while avoiding the question.

Dragon point out where his statement used race.
Not your interpretation.
His words.

Giving his entire speech equal weight... You show where he ill spoke Sundar Popo and his race.

Use his words....not your spin.


Show where he said anything to do with Popo,s race being an issue.
Use his words.

I would be grateful...

Sometimes I wonder about you Does he need to say "Sundar Popo is an undeserving Indian to name NAPA after?"
The implication is there for those without a balisier in their eye to see. The mere fact that he disparages Popo to promote Stalin screams it.

[Redman]

So there is nothing that points to Race being the issue.
Other than your clearly twisted POV.

Maybe the man believes the place should be named after Stalin.


If you disagree...is it because Stalin is black?

If I agree...I don't like Indians?

I thought the UNC used Popo's name because of his contribution to TNT culture and the art form..you clearly believe that it's cuz he Indian.
What more disparaging to Popo than that?

[De Dragon]

So there is nothing that points to Race being the issue.
Other than your clearly twisted POV.

Maybe the man believes the place should be named after Stalin.


If you disagree...is it because Stalin is black?

If I agree...I don't like Indians?

I thought the UNC used Popo's name because of his contribution to TNT culture and the art form..you clearly believe that it's cuz he Indian.
What more disparaging to Popo than that?

Nice try, but that deflection only works for PNM supporters. Regrello's racist/political/kant comments, no matter what his motivation, are in extremely poor taste for a public official.

[Redman]

Still nothing-Answer the questions nah- instead of repeating that noise.

[De Dragon]

Still nothing-Answer the questions nah- instead of repeating that noise.

What questions? You're defending racism and poor taste comments and want to get on a high horse too?

[Redman]

You cherry pick one or two sentences in the speech-ignore the majority which clearly define the context and intent of the speech and call race.

We have to be able to respectfully and justifiably criticize any one without it being solely about race.

NOTHING in that speech speaks to race.
Nothing in any of the renaming articles posted above points to race.

If you take the speech in a balanced fair way-race and politics dont play.

[De Dragon]

You cherry pick one or two sentences in the speech-ignore the majority which clearly define the context and intent of the speech and call race.

We have to be able to respectfully and justifiably criticize any one without it being solely about race.

NOTHING in that speech speaks to race.
Nothing in any of the renaming articles posted above points to race.

If you take the speech in a balanced fair way-race and politics dont play.

Regrello's unfortunate, unwarranted and uncalled for comments indicate one, or several of the following.
1) Racism
2) Political brownnosing
3) Promotion of divisiveness.
NONE of these are a good look btw.
I do give him credit for being subtle about it though as he has seemed to convince (not that Red and Ready need it) that he isn't

[Redman]

That of course would be your interpretation.
But I dont expect anything different.

[De Dragon]

That of course would be your interpretation.
But I dont expect anything different.

Yes, ascribe race to everyone else but your idols in the PNM, as to you they seem incapable of such things

[Redman]

You cherry pick one or two sentences in the speech-ignore the majority which clearly define the context and intent of the speech and call race.

We have to be able to respectfully and justifiably criticize any one without it being solely about race.

NOTHING in that speech speaks to race.
Nothing in any of the renaming articles posted above points to race.

If you take the speech in a balanced fair way-race and politics dont play.

Regrello's unfortunate, unwarranted and uncalled for comments indicate one, or several of the following.
1) Racism
2) Political brownnosing
3) Promotion of divisiveness.
NONE of these are a good look btw.
I do give him credit for being subtle about it though as he has seemed to convince (not that Red and Ready need it) that he isn't

You would make more sense IF you were able to point to something he actually said to substantiate your conclusions.

You have not done that yet.

Your stretch is not based on Regrellos actual action,vocalization or inference.
Its your thing-no one elses.

[De Dragon]

You cherry pick one or two sentences in the speech-ignore the majority which clearly define the context and intent of the speech and call race.

We have to be able to respectfully and justifiably criticize any one without it being solely about race.

NOTHING in that speech speaks to race.
Nothing in any of the renaming articles posted above points to race.

If you take the speech in a balanced fair way-race and politics dont play.

Regrello's unfortunate, unwarranted and uncalled for comments indicate one, or several of the following.
1) Racism
2) Political brownnosing
3) Promotion of divisiveness.
NONE of these are a good look btw.
I do give him credit for being subtle about it though as he has seemed to convince (not that Red and Ready need it) that he isn't

You would make more sense IF you were able to point to something he actually said to substantiate your conclusions.

You have not done that yet.

Your stretch is not based on Regrellos actual action,vocalization or inference.
Its your thing-no one elses.

Yes, people always have to say something exactly, and definitely to mean it The concepts of inference, implication and dog whistling seems to be escaping your PNM trained ears.

[Redman]

Yet you're the one hearing and responding to the dog whistle.

So by my inference, and your own implication...you're a PNM dog?

Is that the right application of the concepts?


We should enable officer holders the ability to criticize without automatically relegating his/ her motives to politics and race.
If we don't we will be stuck right here in this space...squabbling over sheit

[FrankChag]

NAPA --> Patrick Manning Academy for the Performing Arts (MAPA)
SAPA --> Basdeo Panday Academy for the Performing Arts (PAPA)

[paid_influencer]

i mean yea is dem whey build it was not we citizens who saddled with loans and empty treasury

[AlphaMan]

Manning ordered it to be built but we paying for it..Still.....with interest......
Panday may not have built those but invested in some sort of social programs for the youth.

[antlind]

NAPA --> Patrick Manning Academy for the Performing Arts (MAPA)
SAPA --> Basdeo Panday Academy for the Performing Arts (PAPA)

TATA —> Keith Rowley Academy for the Underperforming PNM Government.

[gastly369]

[pugboy]

so we still put immense value on naming something after somebody ?
they really take us for idiots to think that is human currency