Energy Sector Thread - Operators, Engineers, Technicians Et Al

[eitech]

Unfortunately, can't say.

I can only hint of two identical plants and they wear green / grey. Management don't play having been privy to some of the morning meetings. Man with the bike knows his stuff.

Looks like this is a secretive field after all

Thanks I guess.

It is not a secretive field as some would have you believe. Yes there will be certain trade secrets that would be very very specific to the facility. However, much of the processes can be found freely online in technical publications. I suspect that the E/I tech and the a/c tech have an inflated sense of importance.

Understood and thanks. Confidentiality on proprietary processes makes sense.

Not following the whole E/I tech + A/C tech comment though? Not sure what I'm missing here.

I figured the engineering folk would know more about this stuff, hence I asked these questions of folks like nervewrecker or others who seem to be in the know in the eng field.

Yea dat “wing” nut always looking for attention. Oh shux. There i gave him it

[eitech]

Industries SUPPOSED to be different, with evaluations snd performance appraisal system.

Not saying it supposed to be perfect , but that where there is a corporate will, there is the way

And if they get a bad appraisal then what? Or they giving trouble? Usually they just get relocated or moved, let it be someone else problem.

Classic case of monkey in selection of trees for ascension. Same people know to get in line when needed and will be the best worker, hardest worker and have everything in check hse wise. It has been the case with men playing the royal ass and when the bikeman outside doing his walk around the same men know to shape up.

So there situations where they know to shape up.
Its up to management to replicate that condition.

But, people could run their plant how they want.
I jess don't want to ded there

As I said, monkey, tree and colonial mentality.

Not limited to plants alone. Anywhere you go, you have the same thing taking place. You have to work for you and work for the next person, be alert at all times and have a good toolbox meeting done by competent person's all the time. At this point, we just have to accept that there are idiots all over and stop trying to fight it.

True. Toolbox meeting extremely important. Read and spell for everybody.
Idiots everywhere. From field execution to the plant manger it have idiots

[sMASH]

Why Rowley can't sell ours?

[Numb3r4]

The biker-dude seems to be like quite the guy.

[sMASH]

Saw ngc. Buying off shore blocks

[shaneelal]

Top 100 countries by proven natural gas reserves.

[sMASH]

Sooo115 b us.
805btt. About 16 yearly budgets. About32 if u think it only pays for half a budget.


Its running out

[sMASH]

So an incident happen on a promsn site... And i hear that the guy died.

Isolating or opening a vslve snd the line blow out somehow snd buss way he face.

[eitech]

So an incident happen on a promsn site... And i hear that the guy died.

Isolating or opening a vslve snd the line blow out somehow snd buss way he face.

Well something did blow out through similar activities…as far as I know no death…not a guy. Unless this is somethin else

[sMASH]

Only one major incident last night i hear of. So assuming its the same.
Details unsubstantiated, so not willing to repeat anything.

[eitech]

Briefing in a bit

[ST Auto]

Briefing in a bit

Any update?

[eitech]

No deaths. Injured being attended medically

[sMASH]

Nice.

But what was the incident?

[nervewrecker]

Nice.

But what was the incident?

Statement made by Faz and on social media. Nobody dead.

[K74T]

PROMAN has confirmed that two workers were injured in an incident at its AUM Ammonia facility at the Point Lisas Industrial Estate on July 1.

In a release, the company said two contract workers from Phoenix Welding and Fabricating Ltd (PWFL) were hurt.

“The PWFL workers were completing an equipment installation task, as part of the AUM Ammonia facility maintenance turnaround, when the incident occurred.”

No details of the event were given.

“Both workers received immediate attention from the facility’s onsite medical team and the best possible tertiary medical care is subsequently being provided.”

Proman added, “The health and safety of our employees and contractors is our utmost priority. A full investigation has been launched to understand the causes of the incident.

“We are liaising closely with PWFL on the management of this incident and will continue to provide our full support and assistance.”

Late Sunday evening, Labour Minister Stephen Mc Clashie told the Newsday he was unaware an incident of this nature had occurred at the plant.

He said the normal procedure is for incidents in which people are injured to be reported immediately to the Occupational Safety and Health Agency (OSHA). He said if the matter had been reported he would have been alerted.

This is the second industrial accident in the past month. On June 15, fire at the NiQuan plant at Pointe-a-Pierre severely injured a Massy Energy employee, Allan Lane Ramkissoon who suffered burns to 60 per cent of his body. He was flown to a specialised burns unit in Colombia, but died on June 18.

Several probes have begun into that incident and the Ministry of Energy has instructed NiQuan to close that part of its plant until its safety can be ascertained. In 2021, an explosion at NiQuan's gas-to-liquids plant led to its closure for almost a year.

https://newsday.co.tt/2023/07/03/proman-confirms-workers-injured-at-its-point-lisas-aum-plant/

[sMASH]

No details.

What was they doing for a spring hanger to buss out....

[eitech]

I believe they were replacing the spring can and the old one was set down to be removed and well potential energy…

[sMASH]

Well, in future, some sort of cage will have to be developed, snd it will be placed in that to contain the potential to kinetic energy conversion.

Me, i would be so antsy dealing with that...

[nervewrecker]

The backlash from these incidents are felt throughout the industry.

Stand down next day and hse biting tack all side. Every little thing becomes an issue except incompetence and disobedience / chance taking. Over time, it dies down and nonsense continues where the idiots are allowed to prevail as there is strength in numbers.

[sMASH]

Yup.. After two weeks it bubbles down

[Alpha_2nr]

Im not an engineer actually.

People have to understand how trinis and news does go. You tell someone you saw the neighbor walking the dog and by next week you hearing how the neighbor sold the dog to the Chinese and got a cat.

It's best to stay quiet about what you see / hear or it can lead to a company ending up with a bad image.

Ok I gotcha. Makes sense on the Corporate reputation (i.e. re: image).

[Richard Coer de Poulet]

can anybody tell me how to test a single phase and 3 phase motor with a megger. I cant seem to understand youtube vids. I get the basic principles where a coil will have a resistance and the direct shorts but the numbers on the motor wires confusing me

[Richard Coer de Poulet]

The backlash from these incidents are felt throughout the industry.

Stand down next day and hse biting tack all side. Every little thing becomes an issue except incompetence and disobedience / chance taking. Over time, it dies down and nonsense continues where the idiots are allowed to prevail as there is strength in numbers.

correct i am training in a school and the stores van buss down the pole and wires to half the school and nobody was held accountable

[ruffneck_12]

can anybody tell me how to test a single phase and 3 phase motor with a megger. I cant seem to understand youtube vids. I get the basic principles where a coil will have a resistance and the direct shorts but the numbers on the motor wires confusing me

You have an example of this?

[Richard Coer de Poulet]

can anybody tell me how to test a single phase and 3 phase motor with a megger. I cant seem to understand youtube vids. I get the basic principles where a coil will have a resistance and the direct shorts but the numbers on the motor wires confusing me

You have an example of this?

so the single phase motor have t5, t1 and t3 to l1 then t8, t2 and t4 to l2 how would i megger this ? using the red and black leads? thanks

[nervewrecker]

First off, whats a megger?

[eitech]

First off, whats a megger?

Lol actually megger is a brand of test equipment used to do IR testing. It common to say “megger” sumthin which means do an IR test on it

[adnj]

can anybody tell me how to test a single phase and 3 phase motor with a megger. I cant seem to understand youtube vids. I get the basic principles where a coil will have a resistance and the direct shorts but the numbers on the motor wires confusing me

You have an example of this?

so the single phase motor have t5, t1 and t3 to l1 then t8, t2 and t4 to l2 how would i megger this ? using the red and black leads? thanks

One lead goes to ground—the other to the winding terminal. Run your test—repeat. Resistance testing doesn't care about polarity.

edit: the megger tests the insulation resistance of the winding.

[nervewrecker]

First off, whats a megger?

Lol actually megger is a brand of test equipment used to do IR testing. It common to say “megger” sumthin which means do an IR test on it

I wanted him to correct himself and identity what the task is.

It's like how they call all hammer drill Hilti and all toothpaste Colgate.

It's an IR test and that's as much as he knows. Let him elaborate and correct himself now and tell us what ir stands for and we will take it from there. No sense in him being in sch and learning the wrong thing.