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Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby Monk BANzai » July 11th, 2022, 11:32 pm

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby bluefete » July 11th, 2022, 11:44 pm

Well, now you know it is. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe the wrong mix of chemicals?

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 11th, 2022, 11:45 pm

didn't seem that anything burnt.
Just the bottle exploded and blew out everything around it

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby bluefete » July 11th, 2022, 11:56 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:didn't seem that anything burnt.
Just the bottle exploded and blew out everything around it


Overpressurization?

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby nervewrecker » July 12th, 2022, 12:34 am

Overpressure.

Tank like it took a hit as well, valve bent.

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby hindian » July 12th, 2022, 4:40 am

Article said the tank relief valve was replaced by a solid bung and well no relief was had. Stock relief valve was rated at 3000psi so that bottle saw more pressure than that.

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby hindian » July 12th, 2022, 4:51 am

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby 88sins » July 12th, 2022, 7:12 am

Op, nitrous is flammable, the oxygen in it makes it flammable, it just requires a whole lot more pressure and heat to ignite due to the inert nature of the ratio of nitrogen in it. With enough heat and pressure, it will ignite. But I doubt that's the scenario in this case.

Doesn't look like it was torched, but there's no burst disc, so that's issue number one.

What probably happened?
I suspect the tank had some weak spots on the inside (micro cracks that were either not found on inspection or developed after inspection, if it was even ever inspected), and that the tank was pressurized with more gas than it was rated for, and heat caused said gas to expand to the point where the tank simply couldn't hold it, so it failed violently at its weakest point.


IF you gonna over fill a pressure vessel, make damn sure it can hold what you putting in it, and that it has a proper burst disc in the event of temperature induced thermal expansion of the gas inside it. As a general rule, a tank can be safely overfilled by up to 2-5% of its pressure rating, to allow for pressure decrease when the gas inside the vessel cools after being heated from compression. But 5% is the maximum.
Also, people either forget or don't know, that older metal tanks that are subject to frequent charge and discharge cycles actually get what's called work hardened. This stresses and can actually weaken a pressure vessel, and will contribute to its eventual failure.

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby Les Bain » July 12th, 2022, 8:57 am

Maybe he had beef with the Tran boys, who knows?

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby VexXx Dogg » July 12th, 2022, 9:03 am

The article said they bypassed the pressure relief valve, so kabloooey.

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby sMASH » July 12th, 2022, 10:54 am

All pressure vessels should be periodically pressure certified, to avoiiiid this. Lol

The constant pressuring and depressuring weakens the materials...

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 12th, 2022, 11:05 am

88sins wrote:Op, nitrous is flammable, the oxygen in it makes it flammable, it just requires a whole lot more pressure and heat to ignite due to the inert nature of the ratio of nitrogen in it. With enough heat and pressure, it will ignite. But I doubt that's the scenario in this case.

Nitrous oxide is not flammable.
Oxygen isn’t flammable either or Nitrogen.
Combustion of a fuel requires oxygen so Nitrous can aid in combustion. It’s much cooler and denser too than oxygen alone.

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby Rovin » July 12th, 2022, 11:37 am

:shock: :shock: :shock:

WOW hope nobody was seriously injured or killed by that , is like a bomb exploded ....

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby 88sins » July 12th, 2022, 11:43 am

I more interested in where the base of that tank end up.
cuz it no longer attached to the body of the tank

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby teems1 » July 12th, 2022, 11:58 am

Les Bain wrote:Maybe he had beef with the Tran boys, who knows?


Those snakeskin pants were fire.

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby De Dragon » July 12th, 2022, 12:49 pm

sMASH wrote:All pressure vessels should be periodically pressure certified, to avoiiiid this. Lol

The constant pressuring and depressuring weakens the materials...

From NoS bottles to fire extinguishers, to scuba tanks and aeroplanes, pressurized vessels have a life, and even then only with periodic, recommended inspections, pressure testing etc.

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby nervewrecker » July 12th, 2022, 2:36 pm

N2o and CO2 behave similar, it's easy for a filled tank to reach high pressures with high temps.

Seeing pt chart for n2o going from just over 200psi at 5 deg c to 1100 psi at 37 deg c. In car temps can reach above 50 deg c easy.

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby Monk BANzai » July 12th, 2022, 5:05 pm

88sins wrote:Op, nitrous is flammable, the oxygen in it makes it flammable, it just requires a whole lot more pressure and heat to ignite due to the inert nature of the ratio of nitrogen in it. With enough heat and pressure, it will ignite. But I doubt that's the scenario in this case.

Doesn't look like it was torched, but there's no burst disc, so that's issue number one.

What probably happened?
I suspect the tank had some weak spots on the inside (micro cracks that were either not found on inspection or developed after inspection, if it was even ever inspected), and that the tank was pressurized with more gas than it was rated for, and heat caused said gas to expand to the point where the tank simply couldn't hold it, so it failed violently at its weakest point.


IF you gonna over fill a pressure vessel, make damn sure it can hold what you putting in it, and that it has a proper burst disc in the event of temperature induced thermal expansion of the gas inside it. As a general rule, a tank can be safely overfilled by up to 2-5% of its pressure rating, to allow for pressure decrease when the gas inside the vessel cools after being heated from compression. But 5% is the maximum.

Also, people either forget or don't know, that older metal tanks that are subject to frequent charge and discharge cycles actually get what's called work hardened. This stresses and can actually weaken a pressure vessel, and will contribute to its eventual failure.


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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby De Dragon » July 12th, 2022, 6:08 pm

Capping a relief valve is criminal

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby Dave » July 12th, 2022, 6:49 pm

I see Fast and Furious educated alot of people hahaha.

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Re: Seeing that Nitrous isnt Flammable by nature....HOWWW??

Postby Cantmis » July 12th, 2022, 8:48 pm

Dwayne need to sponsor chemistry lessons!

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