Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

[daring dragoon]

i pass by a wholesaler today. no 100lb of red bean , lentil, blackeye. a lot of products close to expiry selling at reduced prices. flour and rice full stock.

[pugboy]

aka nft hydroponics
not “air and water only”

[bamfo_dennis]

I do the grocery shopping for my household. I can guarantee that I buy more close to expiry date 2/1 than most people! Last weekend at Best Deal foods in Curepe I bought ALL the 2/1 butter they had. They're in my freezer right now. THat'll last a year if need be.

Yeah, but only a few supermarket items occasionally are on bogo specials. So Pricesmart is very handy IRL.

The first and last time I went there, a 100 box of Lipton tea was $60.00. That was about 2 years ago. That same box can now be had for $20.00 by X-Tra Foods at month end.

But I jelly cause you got 2/1 butter. Glad for you though. That is exactly how I shop.

by which part is bess deal? dey have more butter sale? ah want 2 make cake but dat stink margine does make meh sick

[shake d livin wake d dead]

i hear u but u hada realise nothing gets done in this country without approval of d 1% & all this food importing is done by them to keep their pockets forever fat , once they living it up nice they simply have no conscience to GAF about if d country run down to d ground : they will simply migrate ... hopefully it may not happen in our lifetime but at this current rate 1 day it will

Agriculture is a pure joke in this country and no govt has made it easy to get into the industry. NONE! We may not have the ability to produce food where we can match our imports but we certainly can do things to get the cost down.

Firstly, make better use of Cepep(instead of only cleaning drains, cutting grass( respective regional corps are there for that)and having one man bawling ohhhhhhh when a car passing, start planting the much available land in each district!

Secondly, have prisoners plant their own blasted food or grown their own poultry. You would see how fast the cost to "maintain" one prisoner would go down.

Make access roads ACCESSIBLE!

Make land tenure an actual thing and not an election gimic

Yes, the govt can assist with the cost of fertilizers.

Ever tried going to the ADB....it's easier to take a 7 year loan to buy an Aqua than to get some money to plant one acre of something. FIX IT!

Larceny is a thing that cannot be eradicated but controlled.

Don't start me on water supply.

Take it from someone who has given up, looking to sell out all agriculture land and looking for something else to do.

Nail on head

[hover11]

Any body remember this list?

[dogg]

I do the grocery shopping for my household. I can guarantee that I buy more close to expiry date 2/1 than most people! Last weekend at Best Deal foods in Curepe I bought ALL the 2/1 butter they had. They're in my freezer right now. THat'll last a year if need be.

Yeah, but only a few supermarket items occasionally are on bogo specials. So Pricesmart is very handy IRL.

The first and last time I went there, a 100 box of Lipton tea was $60.00. That was about 2 years ago. That same box can now be had for $20.00 by X-Tra Foods at month end.

But I jelly cause you got 2/1 butter. Glad for you though. That is exactly how I shop.

by which part is bess deal? dey have more butter sale? ah want 2 make cake but dat stink margine does make meh sick

Evans St Curepe. Near UWI. I bought all the 2/1 butter. I dunno if they have more now.

[timelapse]

Do not waste your money on Mayonnaise.All you need is a mini chopper, eggs,oil and a tsp of mustard

[daring dragoon]

persads have 4 butter for $20

[dogg]

persads have 4 butter for $20

Errr... butter? Not margarine?

[pugboy]

palm oil

persads have 4 butter for $20

Errr... butter? Not margarine?

[DMan7]

Why don't y'all make your own butter?

[dogg]

You have any idea how much a litre of cream costs?

If you did know, you would have understood that posting this was a waste of time.

Why don't y'all make your own butter?

[DMan7]

You have any idea how much a litre of cream costs?

If you did know, you would have understood that posting this was a waste of time.

Why don't y'all make your own butter?

You get more than enough butter that you bargained for. Stop complaining, either make the butter or buy it.

[dogg]

You have any idea how much a litre of cream costs?

If you did know, you would have understood that posting this was a waste of time.

Why don't y'all make your own butter?

You get more than enough butter that you bargained for. Stop complaining, either make the butter or buy it.

Where you see me complaining bredz?

[DMan7]

Oh ok it must be somebody else in here b1tching about butter prices.

[SuperiorMan]

Do you get more bang for your buck away?

[daring dragoon]

actual butter have too much saturated fat just like ghee. golden ray on the other hand in a piece of hot sada roti does hit the spot on ah evening.
i saw tru valu san juan had the 2 fer 1 kerrygold special just before ramadan, same in teejays munroe road

[adnj]

Ukraine war causes giant leap in global food prices, says UN


The Ukraine war led to a "giant leap" in food prices last month to another record high, the United Nations says.

The war has cut off supplies from the world's biggest exporter of sunflower oil which means the costs of alternatives have also climbed.

Ukraine is also a major producer of cereals such as maize and wheat which have risen sharply in price too.

The UN said "war in the Black Sea region spread shocks through markets for staple grains and vegetable oils".

The UN Food Prices Index tracks the world's most-traded food commodities measuring the average prices of cereal, vegetable oil, dairy, meat, and sugar.

Food prices are at their highest since records began 60 years ago according to the index, which jumped nearly 13% in March, following February's record high.

The price of vegetable oils soared 23% while cereals were up 17%. Sugar rose 7%, meat was up 5%, while dairy - which has been less affected by the war - only climbed 3%.

Food commodity prices were already at 10-year highs before the war in Ukraine according to the index because of global harvest issues.



https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61036715

[bluefete]

^^^ I now coming to post something similar but from March 2022.

This was almost 1 month ago and we see where things have reached since.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/12/busi ... index.html

War has brought the world to the brink of a food crisis
Julia Horowitz byline
By Julia Horowitz, CNN Business

Updated 1244 GMT (2044 HKT) March 14, 2022

London (CNN Business)Svein Tore Holsether says the world is careening toward a food crisis that could affect millions of people.

Record high natural gas prices have forced the company he runs, fertilizer producer Yara International, to curtail its production of ammonia and urea in Europe to 45% of capacity. With less of those two essential agricultural ingredients, he expects knock-on effects for global food supplies.

"It's not whether we are going to have a food crisis. It's how large that crisis will be," Holsether told CNN Business.

Two weeks after Russia invaded Ukraine, the prices of key agricultural products produced in the region have skyrocketed. The biggest problem is wheat, a pantry staple. Supplies from Russia and Ukraine, which together account for almost 30% of global wheat trade, are now at risk. Global wheat prices hit an all-time high earlier this week.

Another major problem is access to fertilizer. Essential for farmers to hit their production targets for crops, it's never been more expensive, as exports from Russia grind to a halt. Output in Europe has also plunged thanks to the surging price of natural gas, a key ingredient in nitrogen-based fertilizers like urea.

The situation is ringing alarm bells for global health experts. The cost of corn, soybeans and vegetable oils has been jumping, too.
Agriculture ministers from the G7 countries said Friday they "remain determined to do what is necessary to prevent and respond to a food crisis."

But fearing shortages, countries are already turning inward, which could ultimately leave less food for those in need.

Egypt just banned the export of wheat, flour, lentils and beans amid growing concerns over food reserves in the Arab world's most populous state.

Indonesia has also tightened export restrictions on palm oil, which is a component in cooking oil as well as in cosmetics and some packaged goods like chocolate. It's the world's top producer of the product.

The G7 ministers called on countries to "keep their food and agricultural markets open and to guard against any unjustified restrictive measures on their exports."

"Any further increase in food price levels and volatility in international markets could threaten food security and nutrition at a global scale, especially among the most vulnerable living in environments of low food security," they said in a statement.

Western countries with more access to agriculture will be hurt, too. Consumers there have already been stung by higher prices, and the situation is poised to deteriorate further.

Russia, Ukraine and global food supplies
Even before Russia launched a war in Ukraine, the global food system was strained. Snarled supply chains and unpredictable weather patterns — often the result of climate change — had already pushed food prices to their highest level in about a decade. Affordability was also an issue after the pandemic left millions out of work.

The number of people on the edge of famine has jumped to 44 million from 27 million in 2019, the UN's World Food Programme said this month.

The conflict between Russia and Ukraine, which both play crucial roles in the carefully calibrated system of global food production, stands to make the situation worse.

Global wheat prices have fallen from record highs in recent days, but remain elevated. They're expected to stay that way for some time, according to Rabobank commodity analyst Carlos Mera.

The wheat planting season, which is about to begin in Ukraine, will be disrupted by fighting. It's not clear there will be enough farmers to till the land, as people in the country take up arms — or whether they'll be able to access machinery and other essential products that would typically arrive through Black Sea ports.

"It's anyone's guess if Ukraine will be able to export anything for the rest of this year, or next year, or in the foreseeable future," Mera said. The country also accounts for half of all exports of sunflower oil.
Getting products from Russia onto the world market has also gotten more difficult, because businesses don't want to risk running afoul of sanctions or deal with the logistics of traveling near a war zone.

Russia and Ukraine serve as the breadbasket for countries in the Middle East and North Africa that depend on imports. Many will be hit hard as a result. The United States and Europe will feel the pain, too, since the run-up in prices for important agricultural goods will affect businesses that produce food in every market.

"Any serious disruption of production and exports from these suppliers will no doubt drive up prices further and erode food security for millions of people," the Agricultural Market Information System said in a recent report.

Fertilizer costs soar
The brewing crisis goes beyond wheat and oils. Russia, along with its ally Belarus, is also a major exporter of the fertilizers needed to plant a wide range of crops. But right now, everyone is shunning their stock.

"Nobody wants to touch a Russian product right now," said Deepika Thapliyal, a fertilizer expert at Independent Commodity Intelligence Services. "If you look at all of the traders, all of the buyers, they're very scared."

The price of natural gas is exacerbating the issue. Fertilizer producers outside of Russia and Belarus need gas to make nitrogen-based products like urea, which is used when sowing crops to boost yield and even promotes their deep-green color.

But Holsether, the CEO of Yara, said costs have gotten too high to keep operations running at scale. He's not sure when European production will be at full capacity again.

"There's a large part of the industry that's at risk of not being able to deliver products to the farmers, and that will have an impact on the crop yields quite rapidly," he said.

Farmers have the incentive right now to pay what they need to get fertilizer, since prices for their products are going up, too.

Not everyone has this option, however. Urea has been trading near $1,000 per metric ton, about four times the price at the start of 2021, according to Chris Lawson, the head of fertilizers at CRU Group, a market intelligence firm.

Countries without domestic fertilizer production may also struggle to access it, with huge consequences for the global food system.

"You can't grow massive fields of wheat, barley or soy without fertilizer," said Johanna Mendelson Forman, a professor at American University who specializes in war and food. Farmers in Mexico, Colombia and Brazil are already worried about shortages, she added.

The consequences
On Monday, Russian fertilizer and coal billionaire Andrey Melnichenko broke with President Vladimir Putin and called for peace in Ukraine, noting that a global food crisis looms.

The war "has already led to soaring prices in fertilizers which are no longer affordable to farmers," Melnichenko told Reuters.

"Now it will lead to even higher food inflation in Europe and likely food shortages in the world's poorest countries," he added.

The G7 agriculture ministers said Friday that their countries would leverage humanitarian aid where they can to mitigate fallout from the war. But they may also be hamstrung by a dearth of supplies and rising prices.

"If Ukrainian fields lie fallow this year, aid agencies such as ours will be forced to source new markets to compensate for the loss of some of the world's best wheat," David Beasley, executive director of the World Food Programme, said in an op-ed published in the Washington Post this week. "Doing so will come at a vastly inflated cost."

Beasley noted that Ukrainian wheat has also been essential to feeding populations in other countries facing conflict, including Afghanistan, Sudan and Yemen.

"The vast majority of wheat is used for human consumption, and that's irreplaceable," Rabobank's Mera said.
And it won't just be countries grappling with famine or war that feel the effects.

The affordability of food is a problem for lower-income shoppers everywhere, Mendelson Forman emphasized. In April 2021, about one in seven American adults experienced food insecurity over the past 30 days, according to the Urban Institute.

"We're used to a globalized system of trade to get all kinds of varieties of food," she said. "People will see it in their pocketbooks, and they'll see it in the grocery stores."
— Mostafa Salem contributed reporting.

[hover11]

Sheit gonna hit the fan soon meanwhile Trinidad is still at the mercy of suppliers for food

[bluefete]

Sheit gonna hit the fan soon meanwhile Trinidad is still at the mercy of suppliers for food

Yup. And you see that fertilizer business is salt for we.

Farmers already complaining long time about fertilizer prices.

Didn't Yara dus it from T&T some years ago?

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/yara-tr ... 73740acb19

But I think Yara owns 49% of Trinigen still.

[88sins]

No worries gents
Powdered concrete can be a substitute for rice, steel rebar is an alternative to pasta and noodles, and rats can be repurposed and reclassified from vermin to a never ending source of high protein meat.

grate is d pee-on-dem

[Redress10]

No worries gents
Powdered concrete can be a substitute for rice, steel rebar is an alternative to pasta and noodles, and rats can be repurposed and reclassified from vermin to a never ending source of high protein meat.

grate is d pee-on-dem

Remember

"Gov't has no role to play in food security bro. That is all private sector"

"If it so profitable then why hasn't others invested"?

Imagine a certain company only investment into agriculture is to grow and package frozen berries. Not starch crops, not dairy or even eggs but facking frozen berries for smoothies.

This country is beyond a joke now.

[hover11]

No worries gents
Powdered concrete can be a substitute for rice, steel rebar is an alternative to pasta and noodles, and rats can be repurposed and reclassified from vermin to a never ending source of high protein meat.

grate is d pee-on-dem

Remember

"Gov't has no role to play in food security bro. That is all private sector"

"If it so profitable then why hasn't others invested"?

Imagine a certain company only investment into agriculture is to grow and package frozen berries. Not starch crops, not dairy or even eggs but facking frozen berries for smoothies.

This country is beyond a joke now.

We ain see the joke yet, we will see the joke when the grocery shelves empty and the shortages begin.

[bluefete]

No worries gents
Powdered concrete can be a substitute for rice, steel rebar is an alternative to pasta and noodles, and rats can be repurposed and reclassified from vermin to a never ending source of high protein meat.

grate is d pee-on-dem

Remember

"Gov't has no role to play in food security bro. That is all private sector"

"If it so profitable then why hasn't others invested"?

Imagine a certain company only investment into agriculture is to grow and package frozen berries. Not starch crops, not dairy or even eggs but facking frozen berries for smoothies.

This country is beyond a joke now.

We ain see the joke yet, we will see the joke when the grocery shelves empty and the shortages begin.

If it comes to that, you could always get a mango from yuh neighbour tree.

[hover11]

No worries gents
Powdered concrete can be a substitute for rice, steel rebar is an alternative to pasta and noodles, and rats can be repurposed and reclassified from vermin to a never ending source of high protein meat.

grate is d pee-on-dem

Remember

"Gov't has no role to play in food security bro. That is all private sector"

"If it so profitable then why hasn't others invested"?

Imagine a certain company only investment into agriculture is to grow and package frozen berries. Not starch crops, not dairy or even eggs but facking frozen berries for smoothies.

This country is beyond a joke now.

We ain see the joke yet, we will see the joke when the grocery shelves empty and the shortages begin.

If it comes to that, you could always get a mango from yuh neighbour tree.

To end up like the CEPEP worker yesterday, na boi I good leave ppl thing alone yes

[MaxPower]

Hold strain friends.

PNM 2025 approaches.

[RedVEVO]

No worries gents
Powdered concrete can be a substitute for rice, steel rebar is an alternative to pasta and noodles, and rats can be repurposed and reclassified from vermin to a never ending source of high protein meat.

grate is d pee-on-dem

Remember

"Gov't has no role to play in food security bro. That is all private sector"

"If it so profitable then why hasn't others invested"?

Imagine a certain company only investment into agriculture is to grow and package frozen berries. Not starch crops, not dairy or even eggs but facking frozen berries for smoothies.

This country is beyond a joke now.

We ain see the joke yet, we will see the joke when the grocery shelves empty and the shortages begin.

If it comes to that, you could always get a mango from yuh neighbour tree.

And Wifi ..

[daring dragoon]

$4 for 1 green long mango eh

[hover11]

A deadly and highly infectious avian flu is forcing US farmers to kill millions of egg-laying hens, reducing the country's egg supply and driving up prices.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/08/busi ... 8T11:25:12