passport and citizenship?

[sMASH]

yeah, if my passport expired, does that mean i am no longer a citizen of trinidad? and tobago?
aksin for a friend...

[j.o.e]

You trolling right ?

[sMASH]

You trolling right ?

its for a 'friend'... lol.

[zoom rader]

Passport is only a travel document.

Trinidad Birth paper gives you one of the rights to be a citizen.

Or a Naturalisation certificate if you was not born here .

[pugboy]

correct, a large majority of north americans incl canadians do not have passports

Passport is only a travel document.

Trinidad Birth paper gives you one of the rights to be a citizen.

Or a Naturalisation certificate if you was not born here .

[sMASH]

so, if i have citizen ship in another country, i would still be a citizen of tnt too?
and for me to only have citizenship there, i woudl have to renounce my citizenship here? just having an expired passport does not make my citizenship null?

aksin for a friend...

[pugboy]

there are many many ppl who have dual citizenship locally

many trinis who migrated to usa and got citizenship there after 5 years
and trini passports expired and never bothered to renew

some would have gone to usa as a baby and never stepped foot in TT or had a local passport in decades and get deported back here, literally dropped off at piarco with zero papers.

likewise many foreigners eg chinese would have come here and got residence and eventually citizenship
and i doubt would give up their chinese citizenship

so, if i have citizen ship in another country, i would still be a citizen of tnt too?
and for me to only have citizenship there, i woudl have to renounce my citizenship here? just having an expired passport does not make my citizenship null?

aksin for a friend...

[sMASH]

there are many many ppl who have dual citizenship locally

many trinis who migrated to usa and got citizenship there after 5 years
and trini passports expired and never bothered to renew

some would have gone to usa as a baby and never stepped foot in TT or had a local passport in decades and get deported back here, literally dropped off at piarco with zero papers.

likewise many foreigners eg chinese would have come here and got residence and eventually citizenship
and i doubt would give up their chinese citizenship

so, if i have citizen ship in another country, i would still be a citizen of tnt too?
and for me to only have citizenship there, i woudl have to renounce my citizenship here? just having an expired passport does not make my citizenship null?

aksin for a friend...

[Redman]

Smash,
The status of the person isn't correlated to the life of documentation used to prove that status.

If a dual citizen wants to renounce one of their citizenship, they will have to complete a process...as determined by that countrys immigration authority.

Especially with regard to tax status...be careful.

[timelapse]

How about with regards to be an Attorney General?

[88sins]

yeah, if my passport expired, does that mean i am no longer a citizen of trinidad? and tobago?
aksin for a friend...

only if their passport, ID, DP, birth certificate, BIR file number, & NIS number also expired

so, if i have citizen ship in another country, i would still be a citizen of tnt too?
and for me to only have citizenship there, i woudl have to renounce my citizenship here? just having an expired passport does not make my citizenship null?

aksin for a friend...

no, your friend would have to renounce both citizenships, then reapply for the one they want.

[VexXx Dogg]

How about with regards to be an Attorney General?

I recall ministers having to renounce citizenship, no?
Would the same apply here?

[timelapse]

How about with regards to be an Attorney General?

I recall ministers having to renounce citizenship, no?
Would the same apply here?

Is PNM, go figure.Normal laws don't apply to them.
This is just Smash chooking fire

[De Dragon]

How about with regards to be an Attorney General?

I recall ministers having to renounce citizenship, no?
Would the same apply here?

How is the freshly minted AG's case different from Le Hunte's case?

[sMASH]

How about with regards to be an Attorney General?

I recall ministers having to renounce citizenship, no?
Would the same apply here?

How is the freshly minted AG's case different from Le Hunte's case?

what was said was that le hunte was born here and went and adopted ghana.
amour was born there, and later, adopted ours.

me, i say, de man hasnt decleared he is leaving dominica behind, and need to do so officially to dominica, then be able to assume the position.

[De Dragon]

How about with regards to be an Attorney General?

I recall ministers having to renounce citizenship, no?
Would the same apply here?

How is the freshly minted AG's case different from Le Hunte's case?

what was said was that le hunte was born here and went and adopted ghana.
amour was born there, and later, adopted ours.

me, i say, de man hasnt decleared he is leaving dominica behind, and need to do so officially to dominica, then be able to assume the position.

That sounds like splitting hairs. In my humble interpretation, you cannot be a citizen of another country and hold public office here, certainly not the # 2 man in the GORTT.

[sMASH]

a lot of people hold that opinion/interpretation of the wording.
so, now even before our new ag was made the ag, many people see him as twisting words to weasel himself where ever

[pugboy]

i wonder how it is in usa where ppl renounce their citizenship and become a citizen of another country to avoid paying taxes

[De Dragon]

a lot of people hold that opinion/interpretation of the wording.
so, now even before our new ag was made the ag, many people see him as twisting words to weasel himself where ever

Exactly, can't have it both ways.
It's also not as if he has to fly halfway around the world to renounce his Dominican citizenship.

[RedVEVO]

^^

The man was born in Dominica .

And he have 2 nd position in T&T Government ?


They could not find another " Trini to the Bone " AG ?

Penny Beckles is an excellent choice !!

[zoom rader]

^^

The man was born in Dominica .

And he have 2 nd position in T&T Government ?


They could not find another " Trini to the Bone " AG ?

Penny Beckles is an excellent choice !!

Does not matter

Other governments are free to do the same so there should be no uproar from the red government ppl

If the red government can bring other ppl to do Trinidad business from csrribbean nations then there should be problem when other governments bring ppl from India

[RedVEVO]

^^

The man was born in Dominica .

And he have 2 nd position in T&T Government ?


They could not find another " Trini to the Bone " AG ?

Penny Beckles is an excellent choice !!

Does not matter

Other governments are free to do the same so there should be no uproar from the red government ppl

If the red government can bring other ppl to do Trinidad business from csrribbean nations then there should be problem when other governments bring ppl from India

Rowley from India ?

[De Dragon]

^^

The man was born in Dominica .

And he have 2 nd position in T&T Government ?


They could not find another " Trini to the Bone " AG ?

Penny Beckles is an excellent choice !!

Does not matter

Other governments are free to do the same so there should be no uproar from the red government ppl

If the red government can bring other ppl to do Trinidad business from csrribbean nations then there should be problem when other governments bring ppl from India

Rowley from India ?

Yes, he changed his name from Ravana

[RedVEVO]

^^

The man was born in Dominica .

And he have 2 nd position in T&T Government ?


They could not find another " Trini to the Bone " AG ?

Penny Beckles is an excellent choice !!

Does not matter

Other governments are free to do the same so there should be no uproar from the red government ppl

If the red government can bring other ppl to do Trinidad business from csrribbean nations then there should be problem when other governments bring ppl from India

Any T&T born peep will always have a deep down resentment for a politician who was NOT born in T&T.

It's not a matter of passport or oath of allegiance ..

It's just a matter of distrust that you are NOT a "Trini to the Bone."

So many attorneys in T&T and better choices were Penny, Scotland or even Daly

[timelapse]

^^

The man was born in Dominica .

And he have 2 nd position in T&T Government ?


They could not find another " Trini to the Bone " AG ?

Penny Beckles is an excellent choice !!

Does not matter

Other governments are free to do the same so there should be no uproar from the red government ppl

If the red government can bring other ppl to do Trinidad business from csrribbean nations then there should be problem when other governments bring ppl from India

Rowley from India ?

Yes, he changed his name from Ravana

Ravana was a brahmin

[zoom rader]

^^

The man was born in Dominica .

And he have 2 nd position in T&T Government ?


They could not find another " Trini to the Bone " AG ?

Penny Beckles is an excellent choice !!

Does not matter

Other governments are free to do the same so there should be no uproar from the red government ppl

If the red government can bring other ppl to do Trinidad business from csrribbean nations then there should be problem when other governments bring ppl from India

Any T&T born peep will always have a deep down resentment for a politician who was NOT born in T&T.

It's not a matter of passport or oath of allegiance ..

It's just a matter of distrust that you are NOT a "Trini to the Bone."

So many attorneys in T&T and better choices were Penny, Scotland or even Daly

There's a reason why the British employer foreign policemen during colonial era.

Think about it

[De Dragon]

So if he has to draft legislation adversely affecting the country of his birth?
Does he forego his rights and entitlements from that country as well?
There is a reason you have to denounce any other citizenship. The fact that we have a well known, and embarrassing history of this, makes his reluctance, and unilateral declaration of I am satisfied" all the more suspect.

[timelapse]

So if he has to draft legislation adversely affecting the country of his birth?
Does he forego his rights and entitlements from that country as well?
There is a reason you have to denounce any other citizenship. The fact that we have a well known, and embarrassing history of this, makes his reluctance, and unilateral declaration of I am satisfied" all the more suspect.

Will the illegal venes support Juhn Scarfy?

[greggle71]

Renouncing citizenship only applies to persons who are naturalized or in other words voluntarily applied for citizenship. If a country’s laws allow for citizenship by birth (not all countries do) there is no legal process that can change your country of birth and by extension your citizenship status

[adnj]

Renouncing citizenship only applies to persons who are naturalized or in other words voluntarily applied for citizenship. If a country’s laws allow for citizenship by birth (not all countries do) there is no legal process that can change your country of birth and by extension your citizenship status

No it doesn't.

Renunciation of Citizenship

Government of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago

This service is applicable to any Citizen of Trinidad and Tobago of full age and capacity who is or is about to become a citizen of another country and for that reason wishes to renounce their Trinidad and to [sic] Tobago Citizenship.

https://nationalsecurity.gov.tt/applica ... zenship-2/