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Kenjo wrote:sMASH wrote:dem want to mandate all kinda opression, and them ketchin covee all over. is either they not following their own rules, or the rules they implementing dont work. either way, we need to go back to normal, and not penalize anyone for not being a coveesheep.
We aren’t already mostly back to normal except masks ?
The benefits of being unboosted and vaxxed are marginally better? You must be referring to where people that survived a COVID infection, were unvaccinated had a similar, if not lower, hospitalization rate than people that had not been infected but were two-dose vaccinated? All at the time of the omicron variant infections in Scotland?Redman wrote:It is telling tha for the extent of this pandemic-information has been provided,from the authorities
Early on any questioning of the narrative was immediately dealt with,-upto and including banning and delegitimization.
'See the data-look here is the proof- dont argue with science'
As soon as the data feeds start showing that the narrative was off -and that the confidence misplaced, we find ourselves with 'science changing' and data with held because of 'misinterpretation'
Scotland was fine until the graphs began showing that the benefits of taking the vaxx were marginal.
The data can only be misinterpreted when it begins to erode the narrative.
adnj wrote:The benefits of being unboosted and vaxxed are marginally better? You must be referring to where people that survived a COVID infection, were unvaccinated had a similar, if not lower, hospitalization rate than people that had not been infected but were two-dose vaccinated? All at the time of the omicron variant infections in Scotland?Redman wrote:It is telling tha for the extent of this pandemic-information has been provided,from the authorities
Early on any questioning of the narrative was immediately dealt with,-upto and including banning and delegitimization.
'See the data-look here is the proof- dont argue with science'
As soon as the data feeds start showing that the narrative was off -and that the confidence misplaced, we find ourselves with 'science changing' and data with held because of 'misinterpretation'
Scotland was fine until the graphs began showing that the benefits of taking the vaxx were marginal.
The data can only be misinterpreted when it begins to erode the narrative.
A person can be vaccinated, deal with side effects for three days or they can get infected and be one of the likely survivors of infection. When they become a survivor, they will be hospitalized at the same rate as the people that were two-dose vaccinated.
Their Omnicron spike shows the variant (I dont know whether B1 or 2) pushing through all the vaccines/boosted to the point where the vaxxed are being hospitalised at 1.5-2x the rate of un vaxxed. see below
Once the spike passed they all come down to similar rates of hospitalisation.
adnj wrote:A fourth Covid-19 shot might be recommended this fall, as officials 'continually' look at emerging data
(CNN) As the world approaches the second anniversary of the declaration of the Covid-19 pandemic by the World Health Organization, on March 11, more nations are rolling out -- or are discussing the possibility of -- fourth doses of coronavirus vaccine for their most vulnerable. In the United States, leading public health officials say they are "very carefully" monitoring if or when fourth doses might be needed. ...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html
The_Honourable wrote:adnj wrote:A fourth Covid-19 shot might be recommended this fall, as officials 'continually' look at emerging data
(CNN) As the world approaches the second anniversary of the declaration of the Covid-19 pandemic by the World Health Organization, on March 11, more nations are rolling out -- or are discussing the possibility of -- fourth doses of coronavirus vaccine for their most vulnerable. In the United States, leading public health officials say they are "very carefully" monitoring if or when fourth doses might be needed. ...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html
STEUPZ... f**k that forth shot... whole time so?
Then it will have a 5th shot later this year before Christmas? STEUPZ...
adnj wrote:More contagious version of omicron spreads in U.S., fueling worries
February 21, 2022
[/I]Thousands of people test positive for the coronavirus in the U.S. daily, and a small but growing fraction of them are for the more contagious omicron variant BA.2.[/i]
As the omicron surge continues to decline in the U.S., infectious disease experts are keeping a close eye on an even more contagious version of the variant that could once again foil the nation's hopes of getting back to normal.
The virus, known as BA.2, is a strain of the highly contagious omicron variant that appears to spread even more easily — about 30% more easily.
Because BA.2 quickly overtook the original omicron in South Africa and other countries and has even caused a second omicron surge in Denmark, researchers have been bracing for the same thing to happen in the U.S.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... ant-spread
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If there are no effective vaccines for COVID-nn, you don't have anything to take. What's your gripe?paid_influencer wrote:The_Honourable wrote:adnj wrote:A fourth Covid-19 shot might be recommended this fall, as officials 'continually' look at emerging data
(CNN) As the world approaches the second anniversary of the declaration of the Covid-19 pandemic by the World Health Organization, on March 11, more nations are rolling out -- or are discussing the possibility of -- fourth doses of coronavirus vaccine for their most vulnerable. In the United States, leading public health officials say they are "very carefully" monitoring if or when fourth doses might be needed. ...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html
STEUPZ... f**k that forth shot... whole time so?
Then it will have a 5th shot later this year before Christmas? STEUPZ...
doesn't make sense to keep giving people the same mismatched spike protein in the vaccines. boosters currently only work by increasing sheer volume of antibodies to ridiculous levels. Those levels fall quickly to "normal" levels and the booster loses effectiveness, until the next booster.
sooner or later we will need updated vaccines that encode for an entirely new spike protein. These will likely require an entirely new primary series, since "one-shot" won't get the immune response we need.
but here's the real kicker. which spike protein are we gonna code for? nobody farking knows. It can't be omicron-- that son-bich gonna be extinct by the time the vaccines have gone through clinical trials, manufacturing, and eventual distribution to our little island. We would need a crystal ball to see where the viral evolution is going and target it. Crystal balls don't exist lol.
realistically, no new vaccines are coming because "covid is over," vaccine demand has plummeted and Capital does no see the profit in more vaccines. Unless we get real lucky, "living with the virus" is the future.
and "endemic herd immunity" is a bunch of crap that means nothing. seriously, try to explain the specific phrase "endemic herd immunity" to me in a way that makes sense. all I see is deaths and sickness as far as I can see. lol
Unknown but expected to be similar to omicron BA.1.Kenjo wrote:adnj wrote:More contagious version of omicron spreads in U.S., fueling worries
February 21, 2022
[/I]Thousands of people test positive for the coronavirus in the U.S. daily, and a small but growing fraction of them are for the more contagious omicron variant BA.2.[/i]
As the omicron surge continues to decline in the U.S., infectious disease experts are keeping a close eye on an even more contagious version of the variant that could once again foil the nation's hopes of getting back to normal.
The virus, known as BA.2, is a strain of the highly contagious omicron variant that appears to spread even more easily — about 30% more easily.
Because BA.2 quickly overtook the original omicron in South Africa and other countries and has even caused a second omicron surge in Denmark, researchers have been bracing for the same thing to happen in the U.S.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... ant-spread
Mortality ?
adnj wrote:Some people will live but some won't. But the health care system will be just fine. Crisis averted.
adnj wrote:Unknown but expected to be similar to omicron BA.1.
Kenjo wrote:sMASH wrote:dem want to mandate all kinda opression, and them ketchin covee all over. is either they not following their own rules, or the rules they implementing dont work. either way, we need to go back to normal, and not penalize anyone for not being a coveesheep.
We aren’t already mostly back to normal except masks ?
sMASH wrote:Kenjo wrote:sMASH wrote:dem want to mandate all kinda opression, and them ketchin covee all over. is either they not following their own rules, or the rules they implementing dont work. either way, we need to go back to normal, and not penalize anyone for not being a coveesheep.
We aren’t already mostly back to normal except masks ?
if u think a family sleeping in the same house haveing to mask up in their private car is normel... and people ultimated to take vax or lose thier jobs is normel... that might be a bit of stockholm syndrome.
but still, lets wait till next week for sustained low deaths, and then.
long covee? fleck dat, i taking my chances, worked well enough for two years, not gonna put them chemicals in my system
MRNA is code, he is a programmer. Bought up a lot of farming lands, and has already lamented the trend to overpopulation.aaron17 wrote:Why Bill Gates sad?
sMASH wrote:I'll take my chances in public.
If I take the Vax, I have 100% exposure to that chemical.
redmanjp wrote:sMASH wrote:I'll take my chances in public.
If I take the Vax, I have 100% exposure to that chemical.
50% of the country got it. that's 1 in every 2 ppl u meet. half d country eh dead yet.
Which variant is completely asymptomatic? I have not ever seen anything that indicates one exists. Omicron BA.2 is measured at 30% more transmissible than BA.1 with lab testing indicating similar virulence but unknown real-world severity.sMASH wrote:redmanjp wrote:sMASH wrote:I'll take my chances in public.
If I take the Vax, I have 100% exposure to that chemical.
50% of the country got it. that's 1 in every 2 ppl u meet. half d country eh dead yet.
not all strains are the same. could get the asymptomtic version.
Loldogg wrote:
The_Honourable wrote:adnj wrote:A fourth Covid-19 shot might be recommended this fall, as officials 'continually' look at emerging data
(CNN) As the world approaches the second anniversary of the declaration of the Covid-19 pandemic by the World Health Organization, on March 11, more nations are rolling out -- or are discussing the possibility of -- fourth doses of coronavirus vaccine for their most vulnerable. In the United States, leading public health officials say they are "very carefully" monitoring if or when fourth doses might be needed. ...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html
STEUPZ... f**k that forth shot... whole time so?
Then it will have a 5th shot later this year before Christmas? STEUPZ...
pugboy wrote:so mrna is similar to computer programming ?
paid_influencer wrote:The_Honourable wrote:adnj wrote:A fourth Covid-19 shot might be recommended this fall, as officials 'continually' look at emerging data
(CNN) As the world approaches the second anniversary of the declaration of the Covid-19 pandemic by the World Health Organization, on March 11, more nations are rolling out -- or are discussing the possibility of -- fourth doses of coronavirus vaccine for their most vulnerable. In the United States, leading public health officials say they are "very carefully" monitoring if or when fourth doses might be needed. ...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html
STEUPZ... f**k that forth shot... whole time so?
Then it will have a 5th shot later this year before Christmas? STEUPZ...
doesn't make sense to keep giving people the same mismatched spike protein in the vaccines. boosters currently only work by increasing sheer volume of antibodies to ridiculous levels. Those levels fall quickly to "normal" levels and the booster loses effectiveness, until the next booster.
sooner or later we will need updated vaccines that encode for an entirely new spike protein. These will likely require an entirely new primary series, since "one-shot" won't get the immune response we need.
but here's the real kicker. which spike protein are we gonna code for? nobody farking knows. It can't be omicron-- that son-bich gonna be extinct by the time the vaccines have gone through clinical trials, manufacturing, and eventual distribution to our little island. We would need a crystal ball to see where the viral evolution is going and target it. Crystal balls don't exist lol.
realistically, no new vaccines are coming because "covid is over," vaccine demand has plummeted and Capital does no see the profit in more vaccines. Unless we get real lucky, "living with the virus" is the future.
and "endemic herd immunity" is a bunch of crap that means nothing. seriously, try to explain the specific phrase "endemic herd immunity" to me in a way that makes sense. all I see is deaths and sickness as far as I can see. lol
"Totalitarian soy state"Ripe Chenette wrote:Loldogg wrote:
sMASH wrote:pugboy wrote:so mrna is similar to computer programming ?
CRISPR
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