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Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » February 5th, 2022, 1:28 am

Barbados' education system is in for a major shakeup.

Marking the first sitting of Parliament as a republic state, President of Barbados, Her Excellency the Most Honourable Dame Sandra Mason, announced plans to replace the Education Act of 1983, during the President's Address at the Lloyd Erskine Sandiford Centre today.

The President stated that the new legislation will be "more suited" for the modern developments in the educational system.

"Education will be more focused on problem-solving, critical thinking and life-long learning," the President read.

President Dame Sandra Mason also declared the Barbados Secondary School Entrance Examination (BSSEE), commonly known as the 11-Plus, will be abolished and replaced with a middle schools system.

Government also plans to form Schools of Excellence in arts, sciences, commerce, information and communications technology (ICT), technical skills and other skillsets needed for national development.

Briefly touching on Government's plans to continually upskill and train citizens, the President disclosed plans are afoot to train artisans and construction workers for the incoming "building boom".

"There will be continuous effort to train teachers and civil servants, to upskill the national population, to train artisans and a new core of male and female construction workers to fill the jobs in the coming building boom."

"Every Barbadian child and young person will be supported in self-actualisation through education and training, to achieve their aspiration within the scope of their abilities and God-given talents. Government's goal is to encourage creatives, thinkers, change agents and thought leaders, not to write off our children and our young people," she stated.

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby VexXx Dogg » February 5th, 2022, 9:41 am

This is quite an experiment.

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby bamfo_dennis » February 5th, 2022, 9:45 am

so is school project and term test right through d last 3 primary school years and then use some statistic thing and get a nice average graph and scores?

maybe it go work. maybe it is the rite way n take off dat stupid pressure from 11 year old chirren. dey should start computer code from standard 3 cuz that is the way the world is now kids writing apps on dey phone.

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby timelapse » February 5th, 2022, 10:10 am

bamfo_dennis wrote:so is school project and term test right through d last 3 primary school years and then use some statistic thing and get a nice average graph and scores?

maybe it go work. maybe it is the rite way n take off dat stupid pressure from 11 year old chirren. dey should start computer code from standard 3 cuz that is the way the world is now kids writing apps on dey phone.
If they moving away from tourism oriented education, they smarter than T&T.

We should have been educating to move away from oil and gas a long time ago

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby Ripe Chenette » February 5th, 2022, 10:21 am

Good, the SEA was a horrible system and told hard working children to give up if they didnt get a good school because somebody's father made a phone call. Lets see if they keep the momentum going and prosper or end up like the rest of us.

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby zoom rader » February 5th, 2022, 3:24 pm

SEA was designed to keep those out.

If Trni scraps SEA then you would see a parallel education system as we have in the infant stage of international school becoming bigger.

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby goalpost » February 5th, 2022, 4:32 pm

Is d bajan president making these announcements? And not the prime Minister?

Interesting...

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby ProtonPowder » February 5th, 2022, 5:00 pm

It doesnt matter what they do to the format and content of SEA, its detrimental effects to childrens' minds will stay the same, just because it will remain a pissing contest between parents.

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby antlind » February 5th, 2022, 5:25 pm

If TT scraps SEA the primary school teachers will riot. Could you imagine the amount of tax-free income they would be losing through their ‘extra lessons’. And then, they may actually be forced to teach during normal working hours.

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Postby agent007 » February 5th, 2022, 11:25 pm

^^^not necessarily but point taken

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Postby abducted » February 6th, 2022, 1:41 am

antlind wrote:If TT scraps SEA the primary school teachers will riot. Could you imagine the amount of tax-free income they would be losing through their ‘extra lessons’. And then, they may actually be forced to teach during normal working hours.

Don't forget, the 20% list in prestige secondary schools, and the financial contributions parents make to get their children on the list, prestige schools will protest too,

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby Redman » February 6th, 2022, 6:16 am

So instead of getting the lower quality schools to upgrade their game ...we going to muddle the ting.

Any of you guys put a junior sec as your or your kids first choice?
Why not?

Improve the delivery of education at all the schools.
Make sure kids at Junior Secs get taught at the same level as the prestige schools,.

SEA pressure will disappear as it's not all or none

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby nemisis » February 6th, 2022, 7:24 am

Redman wrote:So instead of getting the lower quality schools to upgrade their game ...we going to muddle the ting.

Any of you guys put a junior sec as your or your kids first choice?
Why not?

Improve the delivery of education at all the schools.
Make sure kids at Junior Secs get taught at the same level as the prestige schools,.

SEA pressure will disappear as it's not all or none
Better off parents invest more heavily into their children who in turn will make up the bulk of prestige school entries who then will invest more into both. Junior secs cannot financially compete with a prestige school

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby Redman » February 6th, 2022, 8:06 am

Well ALL parents would do what they can...if they are faced with a lack of space in schools that will give their kids a fighting chance.

So if we increase the number of schools where the education is up to standard, parents will have options.

In 2022 it almost irrelevant where you went to school once you qualified.

Any one ever hire a failure from a prestige school Infront of a success from a chit school?

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby De Dragon » February 6th, 2022, 9:08 am

Redman wrote:Well ALL parents would do what they can...if they are faced with a lack of space in schools that will give their kids a fighting chance.

So if we increase the number of schools where the education is up to standard, parents will have options.

In 2022 it almost irrelevant where you went to school once you qualified.

Any one ever hire a failure from a prestige school Infront of a success from a chit school?

:roll:
I feel like you're living somewhere other that T&T

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby Redman » February 6th, 2022, 9:44 am

De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:Well ALL parents would do what they can...if they are faced with a lack of space in schools that will give their kids a fighting chance.

So if we increase the number of schools where the education is up to standard, parents will have options.

In 2022 it almost irrelevant where you went to school once you qualified.

Any one ever hire a failure from a prestige school Infront of a success from a chit school?

:roll:
I feel like you're living somewhere other that T&T


It's a direct question.

I haven't.
And I could care less where someone went to school.

No one that hires that I know care either.

I guess you do.

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby zoom rader » February 6th, 2022, 9:56 am

Redman wrote:So instead of getting the lower quality schools to upgrade their game ...we going to muddle the ting.

Any of you guys put a junior sec as your or your kids first choice?
Why not?

Improve the delivery of education at all the schools.
Make sure kids at Junior Secs get taught at the same level as the prestige schools,.

SEA pressure will disappear as it's not all or none
You full of 5hit

Why u dont put ur kids in Jn sec?

Why not admit that the red government created this monster.

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby Redman » February 6th, 2022, 10:55 am

ZR,
After you get past blaming whoever.
What then?
You have anything to add?

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby Trinispougla » February 6th, 2022, 11:17 am

Redman wrote:Well ALL parents would do what they can...if they are faced with a lack of space in schools that will give their kids a fighting chance.

So if we increase the number of schools where the education is up to standard, parents will have options.

In 2022 it almost irrelevant where you went to school once you qualified.

Any one ever hire a failure from a prestige school Infront of a success from a chit school
?

True. But where you go to school exponentially increases your chances of success. Almost every year, 50% of people fail Mathematics, and the numbers are worse for English language. Reasonably you cannot say that 50% of exam entrants are stupid. The difference is the teaching. I actually went to a seven year school , and I had to finish the entire syllabus in a weekend . I only got through because I would assume I am only slightly stupid. Most, 94% of my classmates failed. My"teacher" got injured in the last term but was missing clsss long before that for the most mundane and frivolous reasons. To expext children to perform under that is cruel and unusual. And more often than not, problems like this are most present in schools that are not prestige schools. And not to forget the near rebellion that would occur if the concordat was to be abolished. Barbados has to worry about none of this. Limited Demographics, virtually one religion, none of the peculiarities that are applicable to TTO

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby VexXx Dogg » February 6th, 2022, 12:05 pm

Are there any recent studies that suggest the best model for Trinidad and Tobago? Not talking about political kaka or armchair analysis

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby ProtonPowder » February 6th, 2022, 1:04 pm

Those studies are probably locked up in UWI library as graduate theses, never to be seen again until referenced in another graduate thesis.

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby Redman » February 6th, 2022, 3:41 pm

If we had more schools delivering content ..SEA pressure could disappear

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby ProtonPowder » February 6th, 2022, 3:56 pm

No. No matter what, there will always be a perceived hierarchy among the schools.

As an example, people who want their daughters to go to naps girls will look down on SJC in sando. Both schools deliver great results, and a constant stream of new doctors, lawyers, engineers etc. But no matter what, there will always be an informal ranking system amongst parents and teachers.

SEA pressure not going nowhere no matter what.

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Postby Redman » February 6th, 2022, 4:25 pm

What you're describing is competition.
Perception isn't something to base policy on.

Also the competition is one thing, but having 100+ high schools pushing out kids with full certs is what we need.

And perception changes...my son just wrote SEA and his class had a few kids who chose Couva JR Sec (?) as their second choice....cuz apparently the school is delivering.

The parents had a good solid option close to home.
Sensible and pragmatic.
The boy just gained 2-3 hrs every day.

We need that schools management systems replicated through out the system.

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Postby hover11 » February 6th, 2022, 4:42 pm

So we replacing the SEA exam with what? A system of mediocrity ? There is a reason there are prestige schools, those who worked hard (excluding the 20 percent ) earned their opportunity to have a place within the walls of a seven year college or convent. Notice I used the word, opportunity, it is what the child decides to make of it. Tbh the moment every child was guaranteed a place in a secondary school regardless of academic merit was the moment our education system eroded.

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby zoom rader » February 6th, 2022, 4:51 pm

Redman wrote:What you're describing is competition.
Perception isn't something to base policy on.

Also the competition is one thing, but having 100+ high schools pushing out kids with full certs is what we need.

And perception changes...my son just wrote SEA and his class had a few kids who chose Couva JR Sec (?) as their second choice....cuz apparently the school is delivering.

The parents had a good solid option close to home.
Sensible and pragmatic.
The boy just gained 2-3 hrs every day.

We need that schools management systems replicated through out the system.
Why creole always like to attend injun schools.

You never see injuns want to send their kids to red government schools

Same as you never see 1% sending their kids to creole or injun schools

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby timelapse » February 6th, 2022, 4:59 pm

Redman wrote:What you're describing is competition.
Perception isn't something to base policy on.

Also the competition is one thing, but having 100+ high schools pushing out kids with full certs is what we need.

And perception changes...my son just wrote SEA and his class had a few kids who chose Couva JR Sec (?) as their second choice....cuz apparently the school is delivering.

The parents had a good solid option close to home.
Sensible and pragmatic.
The boy just gained 2-3 hrs every day.

We need that schools management systems replicated through out the system.
Carapichaima delivering as well.I know quite a few engineers that went there.They very good for Industry related studies.
Couva Junior sec turns out a lot of techies

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Re: Barbados to change education system, abolish SEA

Postby De Dragon » February 6th, 2022, 5:15 pm

timelapse wrote:
Redman wrote:What you're describing is competition.
Perception isn't something to base policy on.

Also the competition is one thing, but having 100+ high schools pushing out kids with full certs is what we need.

And perception changes...my son just wrote SEA and his class had a few kids who chose Couva JR Sec (?) as their second choice....cuz apparently the school is delivering.

The parents had a good solid option close to home.
Sensible and pragmatic.
The boy just gained 2-3 hrs every day.

We need that schools management systems replicated through out the system.
Carapichaima delivering as well.I know quite a few engineers that went there.They very good for Industry related studies.
Couva Junior sec turns out a lot of techies

Waterloo won some scholarships and is also said to be performing well.

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Postby Redman » February 7th, 2022, 6:22 am

So within a few years those 3 schools are starting to get better students choosing to attend as opposed to the dregs and left overs.

This has happened with Debe High, Mod Sec, and based on what a CATHOLIC principal advised ASJA is a excellent choice.

So bring the quality up through out the country, and give kids alternative s

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Postby timelapse » February 7th, 2022, 7:12 am

Redman wrote:So within a few years those 3 schools are starting to get better students choosing to attend as opposed to the dregs and left overs.

This has happened with Debe High, Mod Sec, and based on what a CATHOLIC principal advised ASJA is a excellent choice.

So bring the quality up through out the country, and give kids alternative s
Will always recommend ASJA.I was in the last class of degenerates there.After that was scholarship down the line

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