COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[redmanjp]

more than 2000 vaccinations were done today? I thought they were rescheduled because of the curfew?

[Dohplaydat]

I confused didn't we just get 11k new tests from private labs added yesterday where are those results this data makes no sense

Those results trickle out across the week.

[bluefete]

June 3rd, 2021
MEDIA RELEASE

Report of Pfizer drug brought in privately and illegally and being distributed - Fake News

Within the last 24 hours, a business representative made a very serious claim, stating that he knew for a fact that the Pfizer drug entered this country and was being distributed to citizens.

If this allegation was accurate, then it meant that a very serious crime had taken place.

Commissioner of Police, Gary Griffith, wishes to remind all citizens that it is the responsibility and obligation of the TTPS to investigate any matter that may be deemed serious, especially if it involves a major criminal act and one that can affect lives during the course of this act, and an official report may not be required for the Police to ignite such an investigation.

This incident was one such circumstance, and the CoP immediately directed that this report be investigated, because if the accusation was accurate, it meant that certain persons would have been arrested for importation of a drug without requisite approval from the Food and Drug Division.

The investigation commenced with the TTPS contacting the said individual, who made the public statement on Wednesday that the drug entered the country and was being administered to citizens via a private medical facility. Deputy Commissioner of Police (Investigations and Intelligence), Mc Donald Jacob, contacted the businessman personally, who was unable to provide any shred of evidence, data, documentation, or witness, to verify that his statement had any merit.

He also claimed that he passed on information to the Director of Foods and Drug Division. When the Director was contacted again, he confirmed that it was solely hearsay statements, with the initial businessman, stating "that he heard so".

A senior administrator in the said medical facility where the businessman claimed that the drug was received and being distributed, also had absolutely no knowledge of the matter.

In summary, the statement made by the individual that made headline news, lacks merit, and is deemed to be false as there is absolutely nothing to substantiate his claim, which has been deemed baseless.

The Commissioner of Police welcomes any citizen to conduct their civic duty and bring forward information of any possible action to the relevant authorities for investigation so the relevant action can be taken.

However, the CoP also wishes to remind all, that citizens should be mindful and have a degree of responsibility when public comments are made, and not done based on rumor, third party comments, he say she say gossip, hearsay all amounting to rum shop talk, as it can cause a waste of Police time, but more importantly, can cause undue fear throughout the nation based on what was said.

So a degree of reasonability and not being reckless is strongly advised.

Corporate Communications Unit
June 3rd, 2021

END

Deny, deny, deny.

Why would the man lie?

Did Tantie Kams pay him a ton of money to lie?

Remember Sagba?

Nuff said.

[pugboy]

antigua pm said the hadeed family of antigua organized pfizer for him a few months ago

[Chimera]

i dont understand why they think it so hard to get specific vaccines black market or through back channels

ansa was offering to get it for Trinidad months ago

300 USD or so for a blackmarket pfizer dose and you can easily get it to buy abroad

the big issue was the shipping and customs clearance and keeping the item cold


but....there are enough repatriation flights...and the only difference between a insulin vial and a vaccine vial is a label

if people does smuggle cocaine on flights...whats a vaccine lol






https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... story.html

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coron ... hilippines


https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/07/ukr ... ine-smuggl

https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/fe ... 0equipment.

[teems1]

i dont understand why they think it so hard to get specific vaccines black market or through back channels

ansa was offering to get it for Trinidad months ago

300 USD or so for a blackmarket pfizer dose and you can easily get it to buy abroad

the big issue was the shipping and customs clearance and keeping the item cold


but....there are enough repatriation flights...and the only difference between a insulin vial and a vaccine vial is a label

if people does smuggle cocaine on flights...whats a vaccine lol






https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... story.html

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coron ... hilippines


https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/07/ukr ... ine-smuggl

https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/fe ... 0equipment.

The mRNA vaccines require ultra cold storage (-70 C) which come in large cooler with insulation etc.



Not as easy to smuggle as insulin vials which can be stored at fridge temps (1-4 C) and can use simple cool packs.

[j.o.e]

If you get a batch of Pfizer it’s highly likely it’s stolen which means moving it around or discussing it gonna raise red flags. Even though it’s distributed at regular pharmacies in the states you not gonna get a batch unless you have someone on the inside stealing and then storage would be the next issue. It’ll take some months before it’s easy to get and at that point everybody will have anyway.

[Chimera]

It can be stored at fridge Temps for 5 days.
Longterm storage is the ultra cool pack.

And even the ultracool pack....
It just takes 2 low level employees and one customs officer and the right incentive.

Pfizer being sold all over darkweb.

i dont understand why they think it so hard to get specific vaccines black market or through back channels

ansa was offering to get it for Trinidad months ago

300 USD or so for a blackmarket pfizer dose and you can easily get it to buy abroad

the big issue was the shipping and customs clearance and keeping the item cold


but....there are enough repatriation flights...and the only difference between a insulin vial and a vaccine vial is a label

if people does smuggle cocaine on flights...whats a vaccine lol






https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... story.html

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coron ... hilippines


https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/07/ukr ... ine-smuggl

https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/fe ... 0equipment.

The mRNA vaccines require ultra cold storage (-70 C) which come in large cooler with insulation etc.



Not as easy to smuggle as insulin vials which can be stored at fridge temps (1-4 C) and can use simple cool packs.

[adnj]

I could either:

1. Pay for stolen vaccine in the US. Get enough dry ice to transport it for a few days. Smuggle it through US Customs. Pay the airline to smuggle the cooler. Smuggle it through local customs. Quietly distribute the first doses. Keep it cold for three weeks. Quietly distribute the second doses.

2. Lie on an application to get permission to fly to US. Fly to US. Get two vaccine appointments at no charge. Spend three weeks in Las Vegas.

US tourism is booming again.

[2WNBoost]

Many counterfeit vaccines are for sale.
It’s like buying tickets for the Oscars or Grammys from a guy on the street.

Jump right in

[Chimera]

You complicating the first step.
You only need to keep it on ice for a few hours. For the flight from Miami or NY to here.

I could either:

1. Pay for stolen vaccine in the US. Get enough dry ice to transport it for a few days. Smuggle it through US Customs. Pay the airline to smuggle the cooler. Smuggle it through local customs. Quietly distribute the first doses. Keep it cold for three weeks. Quietly distribute the second doses.

2. Lie on an application to get permission to fly to US. Fly to US. Get two vaccine appointments at no charge. Spend three weeks in Las Vegas.

US tourism is booming again.

[pugboy]

how u getting the luggage past the 14 day quarantine locally ?
u gonna have to pay the porters in kapok hotel something

or the swiss port workers who doing ramp luggage at piarco

[Chimera]

It have 3 or 4 options.

If its pilot doing it for you then he bringing it out normal

Same thing with a airhostess

Swissport worker taking small money to deliver your item to you after as well

You can also abandon the luggage at the airport and they will take it and lock it up in the room next to subway and then you let your person collect it after.


You hadda remember people doing anything for $$$$


Just 2 or 3 people who getting a 3 or 5k each and they don't care what you bringing.
It's a normal thing.

[adnj]

Or fly to Las Vegas, get your shot, a few days of gambling, a few shows, four wheelers in the desert, outlet mall shopping, get the second shot, pay no duty on those gold chains that you bought. Then going through customs without a cavity search.

US tourism is booming.

[Chimera]

Ppl fraid to leave the country. Anything could happen and you end up locked out for a other few months to a year.

Cheaper to pay a 10k and get the vaccine locally.

[pugboy]

cabin crew supposed to stay on airplane when it lands abroad or right by terminal
but them walking outside airport to meet friends and family
crew smuggling might actually be easier now

i bet some woulda go to a pharmacy in miami and get shot already

[teems1]

It can be stored at fridge Temps for 5 days.
Longterm storage is the ultra cool pack.

And even the ultracool pack....
It just takes 2 low level employees and one customs officer and the right incentive.

Pfizer being sold all over darkweb.

i dont understand why they think it so hard to get specific vaccines black market or through back channels

ansa was offering to get it for Trinidad months ago

300 USD or so for a blackmarket pfizer dose and you can easily get it to buy abroad

the big issue was the shipping and customs clearance and keeping the item cold


but....there are enough repatriation flights...and the only difference between a insulin vial and a vaccine vial is a label

if people does smuggle cocaine on flights...whats a vaccine lol






https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... story.html

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coron ... hilippines


https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/07/ukr ... ine-smuggl

https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/fe ... 0equipment.

The mRNA vaccines require ultra cold storage (-70 C) which come in large cooler with insulation etc.



Not as easy to smuggle as insulin vials which can be stored at fridge temps (1-4 C) and can use simple cool packs.

That stuff on the darkweb is probably saline.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-56844149

Coronavirus: Pfizer confirms fake versions of vaccine in Poland and Mexico

US pharmaceutical company Pfizer says it has identified counterfeit versions of its coronavirus vaccine in Mexico and Poland.

The doses were seized by authorities in the two countries and confirmed by tests to be fake.

In Mexico, they had false labels, while the substance in Poland was believed to be anti-wrinkle treatment, Pfizer said.

The World Health Organization (WHO) has warned that fake vaccines "pose a serious risk to global public health".

It has called for them to be identified and removed from circulation.

Poland's health minister on Wednesday stressed that the risk of counterfeit doses appearing in official circulation was "practically non-existent".

What do we know about the fake doses?
The counterfeit doses were seized by authorities in separate investigations in the two countries.

About 80 people at a clinic in Mexico received a fake version of the drug, which appeared to have been physically harmless but offered no protection against coronavirus, according to the Wall Street Journal (WSJ).

Mexico's government spokesman on Covid-19, Hugo Lopez-Gatell, said the fake vaccines had been detected by cyber police after being offered on social networks for up to $2,500 (£1,800) a shot. Several people have been arrested.

Polish authorities said no one had received counterfeit doses seized at a man's apartment.

Lev Kubiak, Pfizer's head of global security, said the global demand for the vaccine and shortfall in supply had led to the scam.

"We have a very limited supply, a supply that will increase as we ramp up and other companies enter the vaccine space. In the interim, there is a perfect opportunity for criminals," he told the WSJ.

The US Department of Justice told ABC News it was aware of the counterfeit vaccines identified in Mexico and Poland, and would support local authorities and Pfizer "as needed".

Researchers told the BBC in March that they had seen a "sharp increase" in vaccine-related darknet adverts, with Covid-19 vaccines, vaccine passports and faked negative test papers being sold.

[redmanjp]

It have 3 or 4 options.

If its pilot doing it for you then he bringing it out normal

Same thing with a airhostess

Swissport worker taking small money to deliver your item to you after as well

You can also abandon the luggage at the airport and they will take it and lock it up in the room next to subway and then you let your person collect it after.


You hadda remember people doing anything for $$$$


Just 2 or 3 people who getting a 3 or 5k each and they don't care what you bringing.
It's a normal thing.

And what is the fine for getting caught?

[BUG]

Lol people here are seriously suggesting that large numbers of people are both:

a) Tech savvy enough to navigate Tor to order vaccines on the dark web

b) Stupid enough to inject themselves with vials of liquid bought from an anonymous source on the internet?



Some of you seriously live in lala land

[goalpost]

Lol people here are seriously suggesting that large numbers of people are both:

a) Tech savvy enough to navigate Tor to order vaccines on the dark web

b) Stupid enough to inject themselves with vials of liquid bought from an anonymous source on the internet?



Some of you seriously live in lala land

I'm sure a lot of people are stupid to do (b).

[Dohplaydat]

Lol people here are seriously suggesting that large numbers of people are both:

a) Tech savvy enough to navigate Tor to order vaccines on the dark web

b) Stupid enough to inject themselves with vials of liquid bought from an anonymous source on the internet?



Some of you seriously live in lala land

I'm sure a lot of people are stupid to do (b).

Can confirm, regularly buy roids and other drugs online, but I often get new UGLs tested.

Most are real, many happen to be underdosed.

[Chimera]

Lol people here are seriously suggesting that large numbers of people are both:

a) Tech savvy enough to navigate Tor to order vaccines on the dark web

b) Stupid enough to inject themselves with vials of liquid bought from an anonymous source on the internet?



Some of you seriously live in lala land

its not large numbers though, its who can afford it.
and its not an anonymous source if you getting it from people who you know have access to it

and who studying the fine if in your mind, its the matter between life and death.
most of the time that customs fine is 250k or imprisonment
and rarely anyone ever goes to jail for evading customs
everyone does fight for a 10 years and then case either dismissed or small fine
i not talking about guns and cocaine eh, i talking about things that grey market or not illegal but not allowed without permit.

you talking about "stupid people"
you eh realize how much people down here does get caught with IML and other frauds (church etc)
paying big money hoping they will benefit?

but i not talking about that aspect of it



you might see in a few months it come out that batches of pfizer gone missing abroad and they trace it to Trinidad
pfizer has 75k employees

[De Dragon]

Lol people here are seriously suggesting that large numbers of people are both:

a) Tech savvy enough to navigate Tor to order vaccines on the dark web

b) Stupid enough to inject themselves with vials of liquid bought from an anonymous source on the internet?



Some of you seriously live in lala land

Careful the 2NR racist police call you out. They already hot and sweaty about the Theodore Lewis post

[sMASH]

https://fb.watch/5W7X1hDUJR/

tobago health update.

[K74T]

529 / 19

[De Dragon]

Can't seem to break out from the 500 new case/double digit death numbers

[redmanjp]

good grief. at this rate we still in lockdown d end of july

[widdyphuck]

good grief. at this rate we still in lockdown d end of july

End of the year you mean.

[pugboy]

tomorrow will prob be similar numbers
but at least we still on plateau

[redmanjp]

good grief. at this rate we still in lockdown d end of july

End of the year you mean.

nah pfizer/moderna to the rescue