COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[RedVEVO]

This is so sad. The government has tried to absolve itself from some very poor decision making.

When they were telling us to do one thing, they were doing something else. Dr. Rowley getting Covid and Faris having to isolate are just two. If you saw the pictures of them in the papers leading up to this spike, you will realize that they did not care to follow C19 protocols.

And all the sheep decided to do likewise.

Now the followers and others are the ones paying the price.

Let us not forget our borders and the big shot lawyers who sued the government to allow illegal Covid carrying Venezuelans to stay.

I wish every tuner reading this would scroll back up and read Duane's heartbreaking posts from people who have lost loved ones.

Only when dead bodies are laid out in the streets will we begin to take this thing seriously.

Why would YOUR body be on the street ?

Why would anybody read drama and heartbreaking posts when they can exercise and eat healthy and strengthen their immunity etc. ?

Why you soooo NEGATIVE ?

Only OLD and SICK people ( in the majority ) are dying .

Why you not allow the YOUNG people to live and enjoy their lives ?

If you old and you going to die , can you do it in private ?

And donate your computer to a child in school

Yes let them just isolate the old persons and let the young live . Who dead dead not so ?

Exactly

If you OLD and USELESS then take the vaccine and die or not die - BUT do it in private .

Young people do not need ALL this OLE PEOPLE drama and harassment .


We want to go beach and party and eat in restaurants and live .

We young and strong and why you have ALL these LAWS curtailing the FREEDOM of YOUNG & HEALTHY .

[adnj]

This is so sad. The government has tried to absolve itself from some very poor decision making.

When they were telling us to do one thing, they were doing something else. Dr. Rowley getting Covid and Faris having to isolate are just two. If you saw the pictures of them in the papers leading up to this spike, you will realize that they did not care to follow C19 protocols.

And all the sheep decided to do likewise.

Now the followers and others are the ones paying the price.

Let us not forget our borders and the big shot lawyers who sued the government to allow illegal Covid carrying Venezuelans to stay.

I wish every tuner reading this would scroll back up and read Duane's heartbreaking posts from people who have lost loved ones.

Only when dead bodies are laid out in the streets will we begin to take this thing seriously.

Why would YOUR body be on the street ?

Why would anybody read drama and heartbreaking posts when they can exercise and eat healthy and strengthen their immunity etc. ?

Why you soooo NEGATIVE ?

Only OLD and SICK people ( in the majority ) are dying .

Why you not allow the YOUNG people to live and enjoy their lives ?

If you old and you going to die , can you do it in private ?

And donate your computer to a child in school

Yes let them just isolate the old persons and let the young live . Who dead dead not so ?

Exactly

If you OLD and USELESS then take the vaccine and die or not die - BUT do it in private .

Young people do not need ALL this OLE PEOPLE drama and harassment .


We want to go beach and party and eat in restaurants and live .

We young and strong and why you have ALL these LAWS curtailing the FREEDOM of YOUNG & HEALTHY .

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[zoom rader]

This is so sad. The government has tried to absolve itself from some very poor decision making.

When they were telling us to do one thing, they were doing something else. Dr. Rowley getting Covid and Faris having to isolate are just two. If you saw the pictures of them in the papers leading up to this spike, you will realize that they did not care to follow C19 protocols.

And all the sheep decided to do likewise.

Now the followers and others are the ones paying the price.

Let us not forget our borders and the big shot lawyers who sued the government to allow illegal Covid carrying Venezuelans to stay.

I wish every tuner reading this would scroll back up and read Duane's heartbreaking posts from people who have lost loved ones.

Only when dead bodies are laid out in the streets will we begin to take this thing seriously.

Because of the red government greed for power we are in this situation. They are very selfish and ever since elections we have been in this situation.

They hid the real covid figures from the public and fooled the nation .

Now citizens have to pay the price because we have idiots running this county

[De Dragon]

WTF wrong with old people.... is 6 feet ... not 6 blasted inches. Went grocery today and them old people coming close close to you. Rowley should tell them to stay home yes!!!

I pass Xtra Plaza today around half 2 and there wasn't a single parking space available. Even KFC car park full.

I went to get some basics, and when I saw that crowd, U-turn and home one time.

[widdyphuck]

By the time this COVID-19 situation is over, it will be time to vote again.

[paid_influencer]

WTF wrong with old people.... is 6 feet ... not 6 blasted inches. Went grocery today and them old people coming close close to you. Rowley should tell them to stay home yes!!!

I pass Xtra Plaza today around half 2 and there wasn't a single parking space available. Even KFC car park full.

I went to get some basics, and when I saw that crowd, U-turn and home one time.

this thing I don't understand. Every day people have to make grocery so? Or is panic buying or cooked food or what it is they really need so?

[Redress10]

Jamaica have curfew and for their Labour Day holiday they have an all day curfew.
https://jis.gov.jm/curfews-extended-until-june-2/

should we have had a curfew for easter?

we can operate normally, just no big mass gatherings. no big fetes. but a lil house party here and there would not cause any big spike. so long as is here adn there anddd no big fetes happen, lol.

50k for easter, that was the absolute wrong call, highly reckless.

candlelight vigils. no significant numbers following it. which shows how outdoors is not a big deal, as long as most peopel space out.

You need to stop sounding as though u know what you are talking about. Tobago didn't cause this spread else Tobago would have high covid numbers. Unless you're telling me that 50k went Tobago and stayed in the same room etc.

We already had mass gatherings during a pandemic. It was the vigils etc. Has nothing to do with being spaced out etc. The wrong call was allowing those meetings. I cringed nightly watching those ppl gather in mass. Trinis need to learn to stop being emotional and start being rationale.

To find out the cause of this spike you need to find out which community is mostly being affected. The source is usually nearby. Diseases are spread amongst members of the community. Find the community and you'll find the source of the spike.

[Dohplaydat]

WTF wrong with old people.... is 6 feet ... not 6 blasted inches. Went grocery today and them old people coming close close to you. Rowley should tell them to stay home yes!!!

I pass Xtra Plaza today around half 2 and there wasn't a single parking space available. Even KFC car park full.

I went to get some basics, and when I saw that crowd, U-turn and home one time.

this thing I don't understand. Every day people have to make grocery so? Or is panic buying or cooked food or what it is they really need so?

A lot of people don't know how to buy stocks last a while. Especially when you get dependent on buying fast food to fill gaps until you go grocery.

[De Dragon]

Ever notice how Salty ALWAYS seeing people not distancing, or not wearing masks or drinking W.O. and Coke but never EVER stops his lazy arse to talk to anyone, or call the TTPS? I guess it's easier to come an pappyshow your attention whoring useless crocodile tear crying arse in a presser, than to spend two minutes at least attempting to get people to change their behaviour.

[adnj]

Jamaica have curfew and for their Labour Day holiday they have an all day curfew.
https://jis.gov.jm/curfews-extended-until-june-2/

should we have had a curfew for easter?

we can operate normally, just no big mass gatherings. no big fetes. but a lil house party here and there would not cause any big spike. so long as is here adn there anddd no big fetes happen, lol.

50k for easter, that was the absolute wrong call, highly reckless.

candlelight vigils. no significant numbers following it. which shows how outdoors is not a big deal, as long as most peopel space out.

You need to stop sounding as though u know what you are talking about. Tobago didn't cause this spread else Tobago would have high covid numbers. Unless you're telling me that 50k went Tobago and stayed in the same room etc.

We already had mass gatherings during a pandemic. It was the vigils etc. Has nothing to do with being spaced out etc. The wrong call was allowing those meetings. I cringed nightly watching those ppl gather in mass. Trinis need to learn to stop being emotional and start being rationale.

To find out the cause of this spike you need to find out which community is mostly being affected. The source is usually nearby. Diseases are spread amongst members of the community. Find the community and you'll find the source of the spike.

Recent research has shown that it is the smaller household gatherings that have triggered Covid infection spikes worldwide.

There are popular misconceptions of what is "safe."

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A record-breaking surge in U.S. coronavirus cases is being driven to a significant degree by casual occasions that may feel deceptively safe, officials and scientists warn — dinner parties, game nights, sleepovers and carpools.

Many earlier coronavirus clusters were linked to nursing homes and crowded nightclubs. But public health officials nationwide say case investigations are increasingly leading them to small, private social gatherings. This behind-doors transmission trend reflects pandemic fatigue and widening social bubbles, experts say — and is particularly insidious because it is so difficult to police and likely to increase as temperatures drop and holidays approach.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... atherings/

[Redress10]

Can't compare TT to USA. Mask wearing in USA isn't mandatory etc.

You have to put this spike in context of all the barriers that we have put in place and still have a spike. There was an event that triggered this spike.

Find out where the biggest cluster is and work from there. Also go back to where cases started rising and look about 2-4 weeks prior to find the original trigger.

[sMASH]

u forgot to consider the boat, plane rides, airport, sea port gatherings and the public transport when they moved to and from tobago. u will have different groups waiting stagnantly until they move. when they reach, they separate and meet up different groups and cross contamitate as they spread. when they return they meet up even more different groups.

superspreader event sponsored by sh!tkicker and his new boat.




all recent research saying, the outdoor spread is insignificant. not nil, but very low, and its inherent.
what allows for spread outdoors, is when u interact close, for extended periods.
the surface contact is not as much as initially thought. they ran the numbers, and its lowER than previously thought. but, not low enough to say stop sanitizing. still do it.

what spreading covid is people breathing in the same air. it is INHERENTLY less a problem outside, cause the air dilutes so readily. but if u stay very close to someone, and for long period, u WILL expose urself to too many virus partilces and contract it.

standing up by the doubles man not gonna give u covid. standing up by the doubles man without a mask not gonna give u covid. once u stay 6 ft away from anybody else.
collecting ur doubles within 3 ft not gonna give u covid once is just that breif interaction.

for simplicity, just keep ur mask on outside. stopping outdoor activity not gonna improve covid stats, as its not how its spreading in any signficant way. it will have some spread cause some people will stay too long with each other, but its still low


indoors is where its spreading. ur breathign in the other people's breath, long after they are gone, even if there are few people.
closing down many places where people have to go, concentrating the places where people WILL go.

so, ur limiting interaction, but concentrating spread in the few places there are interactions due to the sheer number of people ur forcing to go to the few places that ARE open.

just because ur stopping activity, doesnt mean u stopped metabolism. people still hadda eat, still hadda get supplies.



if they was paying people to lock down, then go ahead, sponsor the banana and the netflix, it will be no problem to lock up inside.

but stamping out income earning is not necessary, just so long as who ever can conduct their business outside, in tent, roadside outdoor, open air manner.

[adnj]

Can't compare TT to USA. Mask wearing in USA isn't mandatory etc.

You have to put this spike in context of all the barriers that we have put in place and still have a spike. There was an event that triggered this spike.

Find out where the biggest cluster is and work from there. Also go back to where cases started rising and look about 2-4 weeks prior to find the original trigger.

These States Have COVID-19 Mask Mandates

The majority of states, U.S. territories and the District of Colombia have mask-wearing requirements in place to help stem the spread of the coronavirus.

By Kaia Hubbard

May 5, 2021

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states ... k-mandates

Mask use in the USA has been similar to TTO.

Contact tracing showed community spread of the P1 variant recently - a single event, occurring in the near-past being responsible for the current spread, is highly unlikely.

Much more likely is asymptomatic or low impact infections being undetected for many weeks; and spread through small gatherings.

[widdyphuck]

This guy was 1of Trinidad's Body Builders. He died last night from COVID-19. He was also the manager of the gym in Grand Bazaar.

[paid_influencer]

u forgot to consider the boat, plane rides, airport, sea port gatherings and the public transport when they moved to and from tobago. u will have different groups waiting stagnantly until they move. when they reach, they separate and meet up different groups and cross contamitate as they spread. when they return they meet up even more different groups.

superspreader event sponsored by sh!tkicker and his new boat.

my theory is this surge was caused by a limited number of 'superspreader' events that in aggregate, pushed us past a tipping point.

The inter-island transport vessels are repurposed cruise ships. They did what cruise ships do - mix a couple hundred passengers on a limited space for a few hours to create a nice, thick virus soup leading to an outbreak. Then there's the Easter gatherings, the Nav Ratri gatherings, and the KFC panic buying/last lap activities, the constant pricemart/grocery crowds, all feeding off each other into one big spike.

[widdyphuck]

What numbers are we expecting today and this week?
Keep in mind Thursday is a holiday and that may bring with it some overcrowding in supermarkets...

[adnj]

u forgot to consider the boat, plane rides, airport, sea port gatherings and the public transport when they moved to and from tobago. u will have different groups waiting stagnantly until they move. when they reach, they separate and meet up different groups and cross contamitate as they spread. when they return they meet up even more different groups.

superspreader event sponsored by sh!tkicker and his new boat.

my theory is this surge was caused by a limited number of 'superspreader' events that in aggregate, pushed us past a tipping point.

The inter-island transport vessels are repurposed cruise ships. They did what cruise ships do - mix a couple hundred passengers on a limited space for a few hours to create a nice, thick virus soup leading to an outbreak. Then there's the Easter gatherings, the Nav Ratri gatherings, and the KFC panic buying/last lap activities, the constant pricemart/grocery crowds, all feeding off each other into one big spike.

The late February opening of schools for SEA, CXC and CAPE studies was likely a large contributor to undetected community spread.

The opening of schools is a significant risk factor for infection spread.

[pugboy]

yeah, plus any “opening” will simply induce persons to drop their guard even more

just like when he say tobago is the place to be

[sMASH]

we did see a small bump. and that had followed a small bump after ole years and christmas.. small, noticeable, but livable

i really thing given the spike now, that they need to cancel sea.
as previously, there woudl have been very few cases of covid in the students, so it would not spread that much, now there is sooo many that it will spread.
the indoor setting for that duration will cause it. unless they opt to give every soul in those buildings n95 masks a couple days before to prevent the covid virus cycling up in the buildings.

[pugboy]

yeah, plus any “opening” will simply induce persons to drop their guard even more

just like when he say tobago is the place to be

[Redress10]

You are not going to get covid standing in a line for doubles or kfc once you are sufficiently spaced out so those things can't be "superspreader" events. A superspreader event is something like a concert or a football match or a crowded beach. Andrea's overcrowded funeral for instance would have been such an event and not people on a beach who are sticking to themselves and immediate family members.

Some of you all are overthinking things. Covid requires intimate contact. Not as much as something like an std but close maybe a family member or co worker. You are hardly likely to get covid from a stranger because you would exercise appropriate caution, distance and mask wearing with a stranger. Those are all effective barriers.

If planes, boats etc are so dangerous then why aren't the workers who use these things daily falling ill at an alarming pace? Do you see CAL staff having to quarantine frequently for instance? What about the boat staff. A ferry is not similar to a cruise ship. A cruise ship have things such as buffets where the utensils are frequently touched. Water slides and pools as well. There is alot of exchange of bodily fluids on a cruise ship. A cruise ship was always a sailing petri dish. A ferry is a transport vessel. There is a huge difference in how people interact with the two.

This spread was introduced to the population. This is a mew wave most likely started by illegals. What we looking for is a group or groups of illegals who entered recently with covid. You need a massive event to trigger what we are witnessing now. This is not no stand in line type spread etc.

[De Dragon]

This guy was 1of Trinidad's Body Builders. He died last night from COVID-19. He was also the manager of the gym in Grand Bazaar.IMG-20210509-WA0013.jpeg

Lawrence "the Beast" Marshall. He was into bodybuilding for a long time now. RIP

[mrtrini45]

Ever notice how Salty ALWAYS seeing people not distancing, or not wearing masks or drinking W.O. and Coke but never EVER stops his lazy arse to talk to anyone, or call the TTPS? I guess it's easier to come an pappyshow your attention whoring useless crocodile tear crying arse in a presser, than to spend two minutes at least attempting to get people to change their behaviour.

So True

[j.o.e]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/heal ... hreat.html

May 7, 2021
Federal health officials on Friday updated public guidance about how the coronavirus spreads, emphasizing that transmission occurs by inhaling very fine respiratory droplets and aerosolized particles, as well as through contact with sprayed droplets or touching contaminated hands to one’s mouth, nose or eyes.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention now states explicitly — in large, bold lettering — that airborne virus can be inhaled even when one is more than six feet away from an infected individual. The new language, posted online, is a change from the agency’s previous position that most infections were acquired through “close contact, not airborne transmission.”

As the pandemic unfolded last year, infectious disease experts warned for months that both the C.D.C. and the World Health Organization were overlooking research that strongly suggested the coronavirus traveled aloft in small, airborne particles. Several scientists on Friday welcomed the agency’s scrapping of the term “close contact,” which they criticized as vague and said did not necessarily capture the nuances of aerosol transmission.

“C.D.C. has now caught up to the latest scientific evidence, and they’ve gotten rid of some old problematic terms and thinking about how transmission occurs,” said Linsey Marr, an aerosol expert at Virginia Tech

[adnj]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/health/coronavirus-airborne-threat.html

May 7, 2021
Federal health officials on Friday updated public guidance about how the coronavirus spreads, emphasizing that transmission occurs by inhaling very fine respiratory droplets and aerosolized particles, as well as through contact with sprayed droplets or touching contaminated hands to one’s mouth, nose or eyes.

LOWER RISK is the new SAFE.

[elec2020]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... e-n1242167

one time is this. Next time is that. And thats why conspiracy theories rise up.

[mero]

Wonder if roll-on/joint passing and men coughing down the place bunning weed played any significant role?

Have any studies on this?

Been rolling personals for a while but I sure everybody think they bun it crew safe

[Dohplaydat]

This guy was 1of Trinidad's Body Builders. He died last night from COVID-19. He was also the manager of the gym in Grand Bazaar.IMG-20210509-WA0013.jpeg

Lawrence "the Beast" Marshall. He was into bodybuilding for a long time now. RIP

Damn RIP if true. Had a few disputes with him over the years but he was a good guy.

He was also very sickly so not surprised at all.

[Dohplaydat]

Wonder if roll-on/joint passing and men coughing down the place bunning weed played any significant role?

Have any studies on this?

Been rolling personals for a while but I sure everybody think they bun it crew safe

It's possible, but the fact that they already close together smoking would cause spread anyway

[daring dragoon]

:oops:

This guy was 1of Trinidad's Body Builders. He died last night from COVID-19. He was also the manager of the gym in Grand Bazaar.IMG-20210509-WA0013.jpeg

Lawrence "the Beast" Marshall. He was into bodybuilding for a long time now. RIP

Damn RIP if true. Had a few disputes with him over the years but he was a good guy.

He was also very sickly so not surprised at all.

so once you get this new covid you dead? or is it possible to survive ? the pm get it and he survive, not sure if he that the new covid 19.