Riots in the USA

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

[Dohplaydat]

I fully agree with these protests and even looting (to an extent) as it is a demonstration of the frustration being experienced. However, I am appalled at the attitude many black people seem to have when people of other ethnicities say #alllivesmatter, hell even a white a person saying that I see no issue if their intent was solidarity. I get that it can be used as a cynical response to the black lives matter movement but it isn't always.

Black people seem to conveniently forget many many other races face discrimination as well. Hispanics, Japanese, Indians, Native Americans, Jews, and very recently, Chinese.

Hell even black people themselves use portray tonnes of racism as well to other races. Two rights don't make a wrong.

You may be disadvantaged due to the way the US is structured. I fully agree that you are, but gangsta culture has done you no favors as well.

Next, in Trinidad and Tobago, we don't have institutionalized racism at present. Having a one-party black government for decades kinda ensures that. In fact, Indo-Trinis have faced far more racism than blacks within Trinidad and Tobago.

Yet, pulling down each other accusing ppl of having DDI culture, going to 1% fetes and restaurants is F*CKING BS. If you have an issue with some of these businesses being involved in money laundering, fine good argument. But these businesses etc do not prevent you from partaking due to race. Anyone can go. If they were racist to you, call them out, but in my experience, unless you dressed like a gangsta there is NO racism being portrayed.

Hart's carnival band is not racist, it is literally one of the only bands where you DON'T need a committee member to sign you up, anyone can. Yuma and Tribe, traditionally black bands do have screening by committee members. Fetes like Soaka do screen attendees, but that is more of a friend exclusivity classist thing as opposed to racist. There are very mixed crowds in that fete.

Stop hating and pulling down people you perceive as stush or doing 'white people' thing. That is creating division and racism.

Things that we should be appalled about and stand up for:
1. Not allowing your child to date outside their race
2. Scorning darker skilled people within your own race
3. Chasing after a man or woman who have a lil color to produce fairer children
4. Judging people on their race (though black genes is a ting, them f*cking beetham vagrant rocking abs that most gym goers can only dream of)
5. Hiring people of a preferred race
6. Judging people on their family background or religion

[zoom rader]

I fully agree with these protests and even looting (to an extent) as it is a demonstration of the frustration being experienced. However, I am appalled at the attitude many black people seem to have when people of other ethnicities say #alllivesmatter, hell even a white a person saying that I see no issue if their intent was solidarity. I get that it can be used as a cynical response to the black lives matter movement but it isn't always.

Black people seem to conveniently forget many many other races face discrimination as well. Hispanics, Japanese, Indians, Native Americans, Jews, and very recently, Chinese.

Hell even black people themselves use portray tonnes of racism as well to other races. Two rights don't make a wrong.

You may be disadvantaged due to the way the US is structured. I fully agree that you are, but gangsta culture has done you no favors as well.

Next, in Trinidad and Tobago, we don't have institutionalized racism at present. Having a one-party black government for decades kinda ensures that. In fact, Indo-Trinis have faced far more racism than blacks within Trinidad and Tobago.

Yet, pulling down each other accusing ppl of having DDI culture, going to 1% fetes and restaurants is F*CKING BS. If you have an issue with some of these businesses being involved in money laundering, fine good argument. But these businesses etc do not prevent you from partaking due to race. Anyone can go. If they were racist to you, call them out, but in my experience, unless you dressed like a gangsta there is NO racism being portrayed.

Hart's carnival band is not racist, it is literally one of the only bands where you DON'T need a committee member to sign you up, anyone can. Yuma and Tribe, traditionally black bands do have screening by committee members. Fetes like Soaka do screen attendees, but that is more of a friend exclusivity classist thing as opposed to racist. There are very mixed crowds in that fete.

Stop hating and pulling down people you perceive as stush or doing 'white people' thing. That is creating division and racism.

Things that we should be appalled about and stand up for:
1. Not allowing your child to date outside their race
2. Scorning darker skilled people within your own race
3. Chasing after a man or woman who have a lil color to produce fairer children
4. Judging people on their race (though black genes is a ting, them f*cking beetham vagrant rocking abs that most gym goers can only dream of)
5. Hiring people of a preferred race
6. Judging people on their family background or religion

X2

PNM ppl not going to like you bro

[Emmar01]

X3

[paid_influencer]

6. Judging people on their family background or religion

*entire denominational school system was built on that

[sMASH]

so, the protesting worked. the officers are all charged.

[MaxPower]

so, the protesting worked. the officers are all charged.

Ok so why are these people still protesting?

[Gladiator]

I fully agree with these protests and even looting (to an extent)

Care to elaborate on why you agree with the looting?

[sMASH]

so, the protesting worked. the officers are all charged.

Ok so why are these people still protesting?

u ever see how they win football games in ero... i mean american hand egg games?

[MaxPower]

so, the protesting worked. the officers are all charged.

Ok so why are these people still protesting?

u ever see how they win football games in ero... i mean american hand egg games?

Hmmmmm true

[sMASH]

[MaxPower]

I fully agree with these protests and even looting (to an extent) as it is a demonstration of the frustration being experienced. However, I am appalled at the attitude many black people seem to have when people of other ethnicities say #alllivesmatter, hell even a white a person saying that I see no issue if their intent was solidarity. I get that it can be used as a cynical response to the black lives matter movement but it isn't always.

Black people seem to conveniently forget many many other races face discrimination as well. Hispanics, Japanese, Indians, Native Americans, Jews, and very recently, Chinese.

Hell even black people themselves use portray tonnes of racism as well to other races. Two rights don't make a wrong.

You may be disadvantaged due to the way the US is structured. I fully agree that you are, but gangsta culture has done you no favors as well.

Next, in Trinidad and Tobago, we don't have institutionalized racism at present. Having a one-party black government for decades kinda ensures that. In fact, Indo-Trinis have faced far more racism than blacks within Trinidad and Tobago.

Yet, pulling down each other accusing ppl of having DDI culture, going to 1% fetes and restaurants is F*CKING BS. If you have an issue with some of these businesses being involved in money laundering, fine good argument. But these businesses etc do not prevent you from partaking due to race. Anyone can go. If they were racist to you, call them out, but in my experience, unless you dressed like a gangsta there is NO racism being portrayed.

Hart's carnival band is not racist, it is literally one of the only bands where you DON'T need a committee member to sign you up, anyone can. Yuma and Tribe, traditionally black bands do have screening by committee members. Fetes like Soaka do screen attendees, but that is more of a friend exclusivity classist thing as opposed to racist. There are very mixed crowds in that fete.

Stop hating and pulling down people you perceive as stush or doing 'white people' thing. That is creating division and racism.

Things that we should be appalled about and stand up for:
1. Not allowing your child to date outside their race
2. Scorning darker skilled people within your own race
3. Chasing after a man or woman who have a lil color to produce fairer children
4. Judging people on their race (though black genes is a ting, them f*cking beetham vagrant rocking abs that most gym goers can only dream of)
5. Hiring people of a preferred race
6. Judging people on their family background or religion

Hello DPD,

I read your entire input and i agree with all you have stated with the exception of the looting part.

Businesses, employees and the community should not have to suffer in these protests, but this is what movements like BLM etc encourage in addition to their “peaceful protesting”. To them, they depend on the violent protestors and looters to get their voices heard. The authorities are too lenient in dealing with these nuisances and i believe that excessive force must be used to send a clear message to vandals of all races.

[MaxPower]

In the meantime all we could do is wait a 14 days to see what Covid have to say.

History repeats itself.

[Dohplaydat]

I fully agree with these protests and even looting (to an extent) as it is a demonstration of the frustration being experienced. However, I am appalled at the attitude many black people seem to have when people of other ethnicities say #alllivesmatter, hell even a white a person saying that I see no issue if their intent was solidarity. I get that it can be used as a cynical response to the black lives matter movement but it isn't always.

Black people seem to conveniently forget many many other races face discrimination as well. Hispanics, Japanese, Indians, Native Americans, Jews, and very recently, Chinese.

Hell even black people themselves use portray tonnes of racism as well to other races. Two rights don't make a wrong.

You may be disadvantaged due to the way the US is structured. I fully agree that you are, but gangsta culture has done you no favors as well.

Next, in Trinidad and Tobago, we don't have institutionalized racism at present. Having a one-party black government for decades kinda ensures that. In fact, Indo-Trinis have faced far more racism than blacks within Trinidad and Tobago.

Yet, pulling down each other accusing ppl of having DDI culture, going to 1% fetes and restaurants is F*CKING BS. If you have an issue with some of these businesses being involved in money laundering, fine good argument. But these businesses etc do not prevent you from partaking due to race. Anyone can go. If they were racist to you, call them out, but in my experience, unless you dressed like a gangsta there is NO racism being portrayed.

Hart's carnival band is not racist, it is literally one of the only bands where you DON'T need a committee member to sign you up, anyone can. Yuma and Tribe, traditionally black bands do have screening by committee members. Fetes like Soaka do screen attendees, but that is more of a friend exclusivity classist thing as opposed to racist. There are very mixed crowds in that fete.

Stop hating and pulling down people you perceive as stush or doing 'white people' thing. That is creating division and racism.

Things that we should be appalled about and stand up for:
1. Not allowing your child to date outside their race
2. Scorning darker skilled people within your own race
3. Chasing after a man or woman who have a lil color to produce fairer children
4. Judging people on their race (though black genes is a ting, them f*cking beetham vagrant rocking abs that most gym goers can only dream of)
5. Hiring people of a preferred race
6. Judging people on their family background or religion

Hello DPD,

I read your entire input and i agree with all you have stated with the exception of the looting part.

Businesses, employees and the community should not have to suffer in these protests, but this is what movements like BLM etc encourage in addition to their “peaceful protesting”. To them, they depend on the violent protestors and looters to get their voices heard. The authorities are too lenient in dealing with these nuisances and i believe that excessive force must be used to send a clear message to vandals of all races.

Well I definitely don't agree with looting small businesses.

But firstly, in the US if you're poor and black you're heavily advantaged from the start. You have poor school districts, few state safety nets, a police force that is incentivised to arrest you and no free health care. It kinda forces you to go into crime in order to compete. Then there's black culture which is heavily mixed with gang culture, exacerbates how others will stereotype you.

Now there are many opportunities still such as minority or diversity scholarships, athletic scholarships etc. But they're not nearly enough to fix the problem.

And that problem is that it's hard to escape poverty in the US. The system ensures that it's very difficult to escape the cycle. This affects everyone mind you, but remember blacks started off with almost nothing.

Immigrates overcome this often by family support and working extra hard. But growing up in is different.

Most of the world isn't like like. For example, locally nothing in our system prevents a Lavantille student from going CIC or QRC. However in the US it isn't so. In Trinidad if you get bounce down innocently, or are born with diabetes your medical bills will be almost zero. In the US that burden is yours and it bankrupts so many people. Our healthcare might be crap but it's free.

So finally, if they loot big businesses I can't fault them. Americas overly capitalist society is heavily influenced by big business. That's why I can't blame them.

The game is rigged against them in the US. In Trinidad the game is not rigged, at least not now.

[2WNBoost]

This may explain why people feel disadvantaged

https://www.facebook.com/26884098678309 ... 982875350/?

[Gladiator]

You started up good... But ended up talking 2 2 as usual...

I fully agree with these protests and even looting (to an extent) as it is a demonstration of the frustration being experienced. However, I am appalled at the attitude many black people seem to have when people of other ethnicities say #alllivesmatter, hell even a white a person saying that I see no issue if their intent was solidarity. I get that it can be used as a cynical response to the black lives matter movement but it isn't always.

Black people seem to conveniently forget many many other races face discrimination as well. Hispanics, Japanese, Indians, Native Americans, Jews, and very recently, Chinese.

Hell even black people themselves use portray tonnes of racism as well to other races. Two rights don't make a wrong.

You may be disadvantaged due to the way the US is structured. I fully agree that you are, but gangsta culture has done you no favors as well.

Next, in Trinidad and Tobago, we don't have institutionalized racism at present. Having a one-party black government for decades kinda ensures that. In fact, Indo-Trinis have faced far more racism than blacks within Trinidad and Tobago.

Yet, pulling down each other accusing ppl of having DDI culture, going to 1% fetes and restaurants is F*CKING BS. If you have an issue with some of these businesses being involved in money laundering, fine good argument. But these businesses etc do not prevent you from partaking due to race. Anyone can go. If they were racist to you, call them out, but in my experience, unless you dressed like a gangsta there is NO racism being portrayed.

Hart's carnival band is not racist, it is literally one of the only bands where you DON'T need a committee member to sign you up, anyone can. Yuma and Tribe, traditionally black bands do have screening by committee members. Fetes like Soaka do screen attendees, but that is more of a friend exclusivity classist thing as opposed to racist. There are very mixed crowds in that fete.

Stop hating and pulling down people you perceive as stush or doing 'white people' thing. That is creating division and racism.

Things that we should be appalled about and stand up for:
1. Not allowing your child to date outside their race
2. Scorning darker skilled people within your own race
3. Chasing after a man or woman who have a lil color to produce fairer children
4. Judging people on their race (though black genes is a ting, them f*cking beetham vagrant rocking abs that most gym goers can only dream of)
5. Hiring people of a preferred race
6. Judging people on their family background or religion

Hello DPD,

I read your entire input and i agree with all you have stated with the exception of the looting part.

Businesses, employees and the community should not have to suffer in these protests, but this is what movements like BLM etc encourage in addition to their “peaceful protesting”. To them, they depend on the violent protestors and looters to get their voices heard. The authorities are too lenient in dealing with these nuisances and i believe that excessive force must be used to send a clear message to vandals of all races.

Well I definitely don't agree with looting small businesses.

But firstly, in the US if you're poor and black you're heavily advantaged from the start. You have poor school districts, few state safety nets, a police force that is incentivised to arrest you and no free health care. It kinda forces you to go into crime in order to compete. Then there's black culture which is heavily mixed with gang culture, exacerbates how others will stereotype you.

Now there are many opportunities still such as minority or diversity scholarships, athletic scholarships etc. But they're not nearly enough to fix the problem.

And that problem is that it's hard to escape poverty in the US. The system ensures that it's very difficult to escape the cycle. This affects everyone mind you, but remember blacks started off with almost nothing.

Immigrates overcome this often by family support and working extra hard. But growing up in is different.

Most of the world isn't like like. For example, locally nothing in our system prevents a Lavantille student from going CIC or QRC. However in the US it isn't so. In Trinidad if you get bounce down innocently, or are born with diabetes your medical bills will be almost zero. In the US that burden is yours and it bankrupts so many people. Our healthcare might be crap but it's free.

So finally, if they loot big businesses I can't fault them. Americas overly capitalist society is heavily influenced by big business. That's why I can't blame them.

The game is rigged against them in the US. In Trinidad the game is not rigged, at least not now.

[Ben_spanna]

I can understand people who want to simply protest in a civil manner, and march together as a show of force.
But the looters and those who are hell bent on destroying everything around them... i believe a bullet is the best cure for their attitudes.
And should any of this type of behavior ever make its ugly way down here i hope our police shoot on site and forget about asking questions..... if you're looting and destroying property that's not yours for no reason, you deserve the other end of a solid piece of sharp metal...
I also wondered if the officer has been formally charged AND the other officers at the scene of the crime have now also been charged then whats the continuing protest and violence about? What exactly does the masses want further than this?

[zoom rader]

Another 1% Kant

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... c9954.html

[sMASH]

I can understand people who want to simply protest in a civil manner, and march together as a show of force.
But the looters and those who are hell bent on destroying everything around them... i believe a bullet is the best cure for their attitudes.
And should any of this type of behavior ever make its ugly way down here i hope our police shoot on site and forget about asking questions..... if you're looting and destroying property that's not yours for no reason, you deserve the other end of a solid piece of sharp metal...
I also wondered if the officer has been formally charged AND the other officers at the scene of the crime have now also been charged then whats the continuing protest and violence about? What exactly does the masses want further than this?

let me put it this way;
a police in the nieghborhood have a piper son. he breaks into ur your yard and theif ur zaboca. u come home and u catch him theifing it. u tell him, 'dont theif it'. he come back and theifin, and u catch him theifin again, and u tell him not to theif. u talk to the police fadda, but no dice.
the next time u catch him, u plannass him propper, u get every body to pull out they fone, u call the fadda to come and collect his son, in ur yard with a bag of zaboca.


its not correct or right, but that is how the change happens. if u uncomfortable, nobody supposed to be comfortable, if u want to get it solved.

[Redman]

But change in police killings of black unarmed men has been on the decline.

The absolute number of police killings and killing of black people is small ...

If the absolute numbers are moving in the right direction ...what's the beef?

[zoom rader]

But change in police killings of black unarmed men has been on the decline.

The absolute number of police killings and killing of black people is small ...

If the absolute numbers are moving in the right direction ...what's the beef?

Stop harassing and targeting Latinos and black folk to fill the US jail system.

Jails and the Justice system in the US is a bussines.

https://matadornetwork.com/pulse/how-th ... -business/

[Ben_spanna]

But change in police killings of black unarmed men has been on the decline.

The absolute number of police killings and killing of black people is small ...

If the absolute numbers are moving in the right direction ...what's the beef?

Stop harassing and targeting Latinos and black folk to fill the US jail system.

Jails and the Justice system in the US is a bussines.

https://matadornetwork.com/pulse/how-th ... -business/

Regardless of any justification, its still ridiculous to loot aimlessly and destroy property and claim in to be in retaliation....................... you deserve what you get from riot police or national guard or police....

[zoom rader]

But change in police killings of black unarmed men has been on the decline.

The absolute number of police killings and killing of black people is small ...

If the absolute numbers are moving in the right direction ...what's the beef?

Stop harassing and targeting Latinos and black folk to fill the US jail system.

Jails and the Justice system in the US is a bussines.

https://matadornetwork.com/pulse/how-th ... -business/

Regardless of any justification, its still ridiculous to loot aimlessly and destroy property and claim in to be in retaliation....................... you deserve what you get from riot police or national guard or police....

Black folk was looted from African first

Their villages was burnt while being toted away. Their women was raped while on the way to the US

It's called Karma, you pay for your sins

[Redman]

ZR yuh talking crap.

Taking action against someone for the actions of another is wrong.
Especially if there is no factual connection between the parties.

[zoom rader]

ZR yuh talking crap.

Taking action against someone for the actions of another is wrong.
Especially if there is no factual connection between the parties.

Its the power of Karma

What goes around comes around

If in doubt see Jah

[VII]

Like him or not you gotta respect Zoom..

[Redman]

Absolute numbers....say something.
Absolute number: 1,252 for 2015-May 28 2020.
Proportionally 30 per million..higher than everyone else.
In is vitally important to note that these numbers include valid shootings and wrongful shootings....

In 2018 55 Police officers were shot in the line of duty.
roughly 800,000 Police officers.
That equates to 68 Police deaths per Million

All Lives Matter.

Aren't statistics fun

[zoom rader]

Absolute numbers....says something.
Absolute number: 1,252 for 2015-May 28 2020.
Proportionally 30 per million..higher than everyone else.
In is vitally important to note that these numbers include valid shootings and wrongful shootings....

In 2018 55 Police officers were shot in the line of duty.
roughly 800,000 Police officers.
That equates to 68 Police deaths per Million

All Lives Matter.

Aren't statistics fun

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That data does not account for the first day of US slavery from 1617

[Dohplaydat]

ZR has a point though.

And like I said I don't fully agree with looting, but at some point when you realize how much the system is against you, then you'd understandably rebel.

Imagine in Trinidad if there was zero chance a black person from Morvant or Lavantille would be able to go to a prestige school, if there little to no URP or cepep for them, if governments defunded social programs etc. If any illness's they get it was medical bills up their ass, if for some magical reason they got educated, their chance of getting a job was still hard because you black and from the ghetto. And then you have police constantly in the area roughing you to up and jailing you for minor offenses when a child of Sabga or even middle class Ramesh, wouldn't get haressed or arrested for the same thing.

America doesn't like blacks, they designed a system post slavery to keep them down.

Of course some will beat the system, they key is to move out of the ghetto. But then it doesn't change that most white ppl will see you as an uneducated dangerous brute.

That is the ONLY reason why I emphatize with their looting, they are fed up.

This isn't about these police and Floyd anymore, it's about systemic racism in the US.

And those blacks who made it out and will talk down to the others are the lick bottom types, white people 'love' them and they too stupid to realise they're being used.

[zoom rader]

^^^ Racism in TT is slight pepper , its more to do with Jobs and State funding ie Housing , Social assistance and a lil cuss out from time to time.

The double pepper racism comes from the 1% , these people hide their actions and are protected by the lick bottoms.

How many times have these people been caught out and have to issue an apology to rightful citizens.