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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby section34onyoutube » April 30th, 2020, 11:07 pm

I was hoping for a modicum of rational discourse but what I'm seeing is a multitude of incoherent babbling and an extensive use of emojis by those for whom even English words are a challenge. Arguing that the party in power is corrupt is not a justification for the UNC being absolutely corrupt. Two wrongs do not make a right. I cannot say which party is the "lesser evil" but I can say, based on the pure volume of monetary misappropriation, that the UNC is the most evil without a doubt.

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby zoom rader » April 30th, 2020, 11:42 pm

section34onyoutube wrote:I was hoping for a modicum of rational discourse but what I'm seeing is a multitude of incoherent babbling and an extensive use of emojis by those for whom even English words are a challenge. Arguing that the party in power is corrupt is not a justification for the UNC being absolutely corrupt. Two wrongs do not make a right. I cannot say which party is the "lesser evil" but I can say, based on the pure volume of monetary misappropriation, that the UNC is the most evil without a doubt.
Yeah dey evil

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby rspann » May 1st, 2020, 6:45 am

What is the volume of monetary misappropriation ? How much we talking about ? Let's have a modicum of rational discourse . Please state figures with proof , otherwise it's just he say , she say , and them say . You're making a claim so we need to see what you're basing it on .

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby Redman » May 1st, 2020, 7:32 am

rspann wrote:What is the volume of monetary misappropriation ? How much we talking about ? Let's have a modicum of rational discourse . Please state figures with proof , otherwise it's just he say , she say , and them say . You're making a claim so we need to see what you're basing it on .


If only you were serious.

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby zoom rader » May 1st, 2020, 8:27 am

rspann wrote:What is the volume of monetary misappropriation ? How much we talking about ? Let's have a modicum of rational discourse . Please state figures with proof , otherwise it's just he say , she say , and them say . You're making a claim so we need to see what you're basing it on .
The man right kamala theeef since 1956.

Kamala gave us one term and they must be held responsible since 1956

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby death365 » May 1st, 2020, 8:27 am

I was going to write a damming response to your post, aka who was in office longest and thief d most, but instead I'll keep it simple

Nar was at. Fault to send the country to the IMF (not irresponsible pmn who was in charge b4)

Unc 1st and 2nd time in office was the most stealing and croupt governments ever.

Great is the PNM, they save the country from the IMF 2015 to now...

GOD bless them
Amen

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby zoom rader » May 1st, 2020, 8:29 am

death365 wrote:I was going to write a damming response to your post, aka who was in office longest and thief d most, but instead I'll keep it simple

Nar was at. Fault to send the country to the IMF (not irresponsible pmn who was in charge b4)

Unc 1st and 2nd time in office was the most stealing and croupt governments ever.

Great is the PNM, they save the country from the IMF 2015 to now...

GOD bless them
Amen
Preach brother !

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby rspann » May 1st, 2020, 8:33 am

I'm not saying they didn't do wrong , but unless there is facts to back it up it's no different to when the opposition says that PNM is the most corrupt but provide no evidence . If there was so much widespread looting , why has only two or three people been arrested and charged ? Then we can say that PNM is ineffective in dealing with corruption ?

Rowley has been accused of all sorts of misbehaviour , even by his own gov't . Then using the same yardstick , he is guilty ? Rowley , Dillon , Cuffie , Rohani , Dealsingh , Marlene , Smith , Al Wari , Frankie , Camille Stuarty , Imbert ,et al . To me they are only accusations until they are found guilty . That's the premise our whole legal system is based on .

I hear that a driver said that coonilal had bags of money in his trunk and people say, billions in some Swiss bank . That is true ? Why hasn't he been arrested . In politics, stories become facts and are used in election campaigns .

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby zoom rader » May 1st, 2020, 8:38 am

rspann wrote:I'm not saying they didn't do wrong , but unless there is facts to back it up it's no different to when the opposition says that PNM is the most corrupt but provide no evidence . If there was so much widespread looting , why has only two or three people been arrested and charged ? Then we can say that PNM is ineffective in dealing with corruption ?

Rowley has been accused of all sorts of misbehaviour , even by his own gov't . Then using the same yardstick , he is guilty ? Rowley , Dillon , Cuffie , Rohani , Dealsingh , Marlene , Smith , Al Wari , Frankie , Camille Stuarty , Imbert ,et al . To me they are only accusations until they are found guilty . That's the premise our whole legal system is based on .

I hear that a driver said that coonilal had bags of money in his trunk and people say, billions in some Swiss bank . That is true ? Why hasn't he been arrested . In politics, stories become facts and are used in election campaigns .
People just dont understand.

We will in a very stupid country.

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby section34onyoutube » May 1st, 2020, 9:11 am

I'll just leave this right here if anyone wants actual information from unbiased sources
(unless The Press is in on the conspiracy to take down the UNC):

$Billions in Contracts for UNC Financier - Trinidad Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.tt/article-6.2.403898.ce7c0448e4

Anand's Arrest Linked to Legal Fees - Trinidad Express
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 1e601.html

Corruption Hurts UNC Again - Trinidad and Tobago News
Ex MP Collin Partap slams party
https://www.trinidadandtobagonews.com/blog/?p=11646

Volney on Section 34: I Was Wrong - Trinidad and Tobago News
Volney accepted full responsibility for what has become known as the "Section 34" fiasco.
https://www.trinidadandtobagonews.com/blog/?p=8213

Decade-old Piarco 2 Corruption Case to Start Over - T&T Newsday
https://newsday.co.tt/2019/11/14/decade ... tart-over/

Beetham Wastewater Plant Wastes One Billion Dollars - T&T Newsday
https://newsday.co.tt/2019/05/19/lee-hu ... wastes-1b/

Lalla gets Hefty contracts
One company, Super Industrial Services Ltd (SIS), has accumulated over a half a billion dollars in lucrative Government contracts over the past four years.
Its most recent contract: The $1.6 billion Beetham Water Recycling Plant project–tips the scales at the heftiest of all the contracts Government has awarded to this single company.
http://www.guardian.co.tt/article-6.2.379929.0cd1efed5a

Happy reading!

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby rspann » May 1st, 2020, 9:24 am

(1) UNC Financier , no name given ,no evidence , nobody charged . Maybe he's financing the PNM now ?

(2) Anan and Ram are two of the ones I mentioned . Before the courts . We'll see the outcome .

(3) Partap came out after he was rejected . He would still be there if they chose him. What did he say , was anybody arrested ?

(4) Volney was up to something and was aided and abetted by the PNM .

(5) That was Panday gov't not PP . If We using that then we have to start from 1962 when the PNM was in control . Including O'Hallaran etc .

(6) The case against SIS showed that 45 % was completed and not $1b was spent as stated . It could be completed for the remainder . More was lost on the stadium alone .

(7) A repeat of 6

Disclosure . I was PNM most my life . Never liked Panday . Voted for PP . Voted PNM last time . Although I don't like /Trust Growlers .
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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby zoom rader » May 1st, 2020, 10:14 am

rspann wrote:(1) UNC Financier , no name given ,no evidence , nobody charged . Maybe he's financing the PNM now ?

(2) Anan and Ram are two of the ones I mentioned . Before the courts . We'll see the outcome .

(3) Partap came out after he was rejected . He would still be there if they chose him. What did he say , was anybody arrested ?

(4) Volney was up to something and was aided and abetted by the PNM .

(5) That was Panday gov't not PP . If We using that then we have to start from 1962 when the PNM was in control . Including O'Hallaran etc .

(6) The case against SIS showed that 45 % was completed and not $1b was spent as stated . It could be completed for the remainder . More was lost on the stadium alone .

(7) A repeat of 6
Stop explaining these tings nah

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby De Dragon » May 1st, 2020, 10:28 am

section34onyoutube wrote:I was hoping for a modicum of rational discourse but what I'm seeing is a multitude of incoherent babbling and an extensive use of emojis by those for whom even English words are a challenge. Arguing that the party in power is corrupt is not a justification for the UNC being absolutely corrupt. Two wrongs do not make a right. I cannot say which party is the "lesser evil" but I can say, based on the pure volume of monetary misappropriation, that the UNC is the most evil without a doubt.

You need Mathematics lessons. Trillions lost under one vs. billions under another, and yes corruption is corruption whether UNC or PNM because it is OUR money. You seem to be another sheep as was shown by your lame "links" though PRO RedChupiddy would be proud. Now do him prouder and dig in!

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby Slartibartfast » May 1st, 2020, 1:12 pm

rspann wrote:
section34onyoutube wrote:Thank you for watching my video.
I guess there's no real way to convince you otherwise but I will like to state that I have witnessed this corruption first-hand and this is my attempt at a wake-up call to citizens that this scourge on our country my come back. I'm just a patriot who detests corruption in any way, shape or form. I'm not advocating for any other political party because we all know they're all corrupt but the reality is we should choose the lesser evil for the good of the country. This video format may be unusual but that's how I've chosen to express my view. I expect it won't be popular with everyone but at least we can make it a catalyst for discussion.


So which party is the lesser evil ?
Depends on which d!ck you rather get f&*#ed with.

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby section34onyoutube » May 1st, 2020, 5:29 pm

You should do a "pole" on that.

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby rspann » May 1st, 2020, 6:15 pm

Well look how nobody going to take you serious now .

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby Playerz » May 1st, 2020, 7:00 pm

UNC thief and PNM suffering people & thiefing too, ent know sheit about running a country...dotish...long lines to get food from Living Waters for Covid-19 cuz real people lose their work. New party...

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/c ... cde4b.html

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/us-probe ... 2b869c66b6

download/file.php?id=546812&mode=view

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby viedcht » May 2nd, 2020, 2:09 pm

zoom rader wrote:PNM not losing, Rowlee saved the country from covid with advice from WHO.

Kamala and dem too nasty and she theef out de money. It's cause of she we seeing all dis janjat since 1956


But yuh seeing dat!! Treasury empty all now

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby viedcht » May 2nd, 2020, 2:13 pm

section34onyoutube wrote:I was hoping for a modicum of rational discourse but what I'm seeing is a multitude of incoherent babbling and an extensive use of emojis by those for whom even English words are a challenge.


Did you really expect anything different on tuner?

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby Playerz » May 2nd, 2020, 2:43 pm

viedcht wrote:
zoom rader wrote:PNM not losing, Rowlee saved the country from covid with advice from WHO.

Kamala and dem too nasty and she theef out de money. It's cause of she we seeing all dis janjat since 1956


But yuh seeing dat!! Treasury empty all now


So eric, george, anr, bas, manning thief all the people money cuz they was in power before Kamla since 1956? lol: If people ent know sheit how to run a country treasury must be empty. We need new leadership. Even if treasury empty whoever in power not fixing the problem but sad stories of blaming someone else, is like they illiterate and ent know dey arse from dey elbow. Generate revenue. Some people sad to say behaving like politicians and cant think for themself, is like beavis and butthead, posts created for political points when people are suffering and have no food...

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby De Dragon » May 4th, 2020, 8:10 am

rspann wrote:Well look how nobody going to take you serious now .

Well, the way this young sheep bolted the pen, I think he needed not to be taken seriously from the beginning. Red Plastic Bag and elitecorolla are losing their touch, by sending this underprepared juvenile lamb.

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby section34onyoutube » May 6th, 2020, 8:45 am

Please consider watching this video to further educate yourselves:

Afra Raymond: Three Myths About Corruption


This video is educational on two levels:

1. It teaches us about what Corruption really is about in Trinidad & Tobago.
2. It teaches us how to express ourselves in a clear and unambiguous manner.

I've come to realise from trying, and I do mean trying with effort, is these fora (original Latin plural of forum)
are essentially an incoherent cacophony of verbal diarrhea and this may be as a result of the failed education
of the individuals who participate in these discussions. Notice I did not say "failed education system" because
this country provides an excellent free education system. It is the failing of individuals who somehow manage
to evade absorbing knowledge - especially in critical thinking skills and verbal expression for being effectively
comprehended.

Good day.
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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby maj. tom » May 6th, 2020, 8:51 am

Please educate yourself on Johnny O'Halloran.

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby rspann » May 6th, 2020, 9:17 am

Op , we get the point . Only UNC corrupt , vote PNM .

I get amused by people who , as soon as you don't subscribe to their views , start ad hominem ( Latin ) attacks . It happens in the political realm and also on trinituner . They attack your education (as if education brings sense and intelligence ) , they cry shame on you and stray from the topic at hand . There are highly educated people (especially in politics ) who do not have a modicum ( Latin again ) of sense or morals . Look how quickly your education degenerated into vulgarity when somebody else made the "dick " comment .

Carry on .

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby MDtuner70 » May 6th, 2020, 9:40 am

section34onyoutube wrote:Please consider watching this video to further educate yourselves:

Afra Raymond: Three Myths About Corruption


This video is educational on two levels:

1. It teaches us about what Corruption really is about in Trinidad & Tobago.
2. It teaches us how to express ourselves in a clear and unambiguous manner.

I've come to realise from trying, and I do mean trying with effort, is these fora (original Latin plural of forum)
are essentially an incoherent cacophony of verbal diarrhea and this may be as a result of the failed education
of the individuals who participate in these discussions. Notice I did not say "failed education system" because
this country provides an excellent free education system. It is the failing of individuals who somehow manage
to evade absorbing knowledge - especially in critical thinking skills and verbal expression for being effectively
comprehended.

Good day.
Section34onYouTube



Lol @ "these fora (original Latin plural of forum)"

Oh gosh I dead with that one

I was going to say he must be MaxPanty padna, but MaxPanty ain't know all dem big words.

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby section34onyoutube » May 6th, 2020, 11:25 am

Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody,
or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes
as a way to discredit their argument or to undermine someone's case without
actually having to engage with it. The key word here is "somebody" i.e. an individual.

My statement was an observation of the responses in general. To the best of my knowledge,
I have not attacked any one individual (and I never will) and I encourage everyone to express
(not suppress) their opinions while keeping the discourse civil utilising clear language.

BTW Slartibartfast takes "polls". My response was vulgar but yet relevant to his online idiosyncrasy and comment.
It was a bad pun. My bad. My apologies to all those offended at my lame attempt at humour.

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby zoom rader » May 6th, 2020, 11:41 am

section34onyoutube wrote:Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody,
or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes
as a way to discredit their argument or to undermine someone's case without
actually having to engage with it. The key word here is "somebody" i.e. an individual.

My statement was an observation of the responses in general. To the best of my knowledge,
I have not attacked any one individual (and I never will) and I encourage everyone to express
(not suppress) their opinions while keeping the discourse civil utilising clear language.

BTW Slartibartfast takes "polls". My response was vulgar but yet relevant to his online idiosyncrasy and comment.
It was a bad pun. My bad. My apologies to all those offended at my lame attempt at humour.
You are a paid PNM blogger.

I noticed a lot of PNM bloggers are showing up on tuners for the past two months .

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby De Dragon » May 6th, 2020, 1:56 pm

section34onyoutube wrote:Please consider watching this video to further educate yourselves:

Afra Raymond: Three Myths About Corruption


This video is educational on two levels:

1. It teaches us about what Corruption really is about in Trinidad & Tobago.
2. It teaches us how to express ourselves in a clear and unambiguous manner.

I've come to realise from trying, and I do mean trying with effort, is these fora (original Latin plural of forum)
are essentially an incoherent cacophony of verbal diarrhea and this may be as a result of the failed education
of the individuals who participate in these discussions. Notice I did not say "failed education system" because
this country provides an excellent free education system. It is the failing of individuals who somehow manage
to evade absorbing knowledge - especially in critical thinking skills and verbal expression for being effectively
comprehended.

Good day.
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All you've proven there is that you, or most likely your handler, is a better spoken PNM sheep. Maybe the upper echelons of the PNM 2NR sheep crew got fed up of uneducated, 5 word vocabulary nitwits like one eye and Tokesy, and decided to try a new tack. I hope that you can understand, and pardon a lowly School Leaving Certificate holder like myself.Thanks

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby zoom rader » May 6th, 2020, 2:58 pm

De Dragon wrote:
section34onyoutube wrote:Please consider watching this video to further educate yourselves:

Afra Raymond: Three Myths About Corruption


This video is educational on two levels:

1. It teaches us about what Corruption really is about in Trinidad & Tobago.
2. It teaches us how to express ourselves in a clear and unambiguous manner.

I've come to realise from trying, and I do mean trying with effort, is these fora (original Latin plural of forum)
are essentially an incoherent cacophony of verbal diarrhea and this may be as a result of the failed education
of the individuals who participate in these discussions. Notice I did not say "failed education system" because
this country provides an excellent free education system. It is the failing of individuals who somehow manage
to evade absorbing knowledge - especially in critical thinking skills and verbal expression for being effectively
comprehended.

Good day.
Section34onYouTube

All you've proven there is that you, or most likely your handler, is a better spoken PNM sheep. Maybe the upper echelons of the PNM 2NR sheep crew got fed up of uneducated, 5 word vocabulary nitwits like one eye and Tokesy, and decided to try a new tack. I hope that you can understand, and pardon a lowly School Leaving Certificate holder like myself.Thanks
He's a paid PNM blogger.

They comming in here now as elections are getting closer. Redress start already and elite posing to his party favor. Then elite goes to ask why tuners think hes pnm.

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Re: Here Comes The Sun - YouTube Video

Postby brams112 » May 6th, 2020, 9:46 pm

section34onyoutube wrote:I was hoping for a modicum of rational discourse but what I'm seeing is a multitude of incoherent babbling and an extensive use of emojis by those for whom even English words are a challenge. Arguing that the party in power is corrupt is not a justification for the UNC being absolutely corrupt. Two wrongs do not make a right. I cannot say which party is the "lesser evil" but I can say, based on the pure volume of monetary misappropriation, that the UNC is the most evil without a doubt.

Sometime ago a pee on them politician spoke about cockroaches coming out of their holes,like you is one of them Orr wah.

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