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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby toyolink » April 3rd, 2020, 10:16 am

Well it is reasonable to assume the asymptomatic cat is amongst the pigeons.
Statistically 3 per day can easily launch to much higher daily occurrences.
Time to wear the mask if you must be out there.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby Redman » April 3rd, 2020, 10:35 am

sMASH wrote:^^ and we keep on voting PNM, they grinding this country down to dust. clue-fricking-less.

thank good kams get an innings to build that couva hospital. cause all now people lie down in brian lara carpark.


Of course if they had put effort into improving water supplies and maintenance of the distribution network, these people might have actually have benefited.

That said WASA has been the flogging post for every admin-non of which has put proper things in place.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby paid_influencer » April 3rd, 2020, 10:43 am

In today's press conference, the CMO has made the following recommendations on masks:

[*] ALL sick persons should wear a mask (even at home).
[*] ALL elderly persons should wear a mask when in public
[*] ALL persons with chronic medical condition (diabetes, hypertension, etc) should wear a mask when in public
[*] ALL healthcare workers should wear a mask

[*] Mask in this case means any face covering, not necessarily surgical masks.
[*] N95 grade masks should be only be used by healthcare workers and only for specific procedures

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby maj. tom » April 3rd, 2020, 10:48 am

Those are good points eh? BL stadium and Red House giving we National Pride all now when the crunch is here and sheit really matters. For all that money spent, for no investment returns. They would have set up tents in the stadium and treating COVID-19 patients.

The Couva Hospital facilities. That was not enough pride.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby paid_influencer » April 3rd, 2020, 11:33 am

CMO in today's press conference:

"If we had transmission during Carnival, we would have tens of thousands of cases today."

That statement is simultaneously terrifying and reassuring.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby mero » April 3rd, 2020, 12:00 pm

paid_influencer wrote:CMO in today's press conference:

"If we had transmission during Carnival, we would have tens of thousands of cases today."

That statement is simultaneously terrifying and reassuring.


CMO now added to list of untrustworthy deceptive PNM ppl. How dare he

Funny how team BaN CArnIVAL/I’m so classy/ daz PNM ppl ting/I rather fly out to Keneda and Mehyami or go on a fcking cruise instead, directly placed more at risk than Carnival masqueraders for that period.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby paid_influencer » April 3rd, 2020, 12:04 pm

PNM / Carnival babies see the statement as a justification for them. "We were right all along," they believe.

I see it as an admission things could have gone drastically and horribly wrong in a way which could have destroyed the country for years into the future. It was an experiment that did not need to have happened.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby blitz83 » April 3rd, 2020, 12:06 pm

mero wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:CMO in today's press conference:

"If we had transmission during Carnival, we would have tens of thousands of cases today."

That statement is simultaneously terrifying and reassuring.


CMO now added to list of untrustworthy deceptive PNM ppl. How dare he

Funny how team BaN CArnIVAL/I’m so classy/ daz PNM ppl ting/I rather fly out to Keneda and Mehyami or go on a fcking cruise instead, directly placed more at risk than Carnival masqueraders for that period.


Team no visa?

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby zoom rader » April 3rd, 2020, 12:08 pm

paid_influencer wrote:PNM / Carnival babies see the statement as a justification for them. "We were right all along," they believe.

I see it as an admission things could have gone drastically and horribly wrong in a way which could have destroyed the country for years into the future. It was an experiment that did not need to have happened.
Hmmm I never thought about that.

Most PNM ppl are carnival babies.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby MaxPower » April 3rd, 2020, 12:18 pm

paid_influencer wrote:CMO in today's press conference:

"If we had transmission during Carnival, we would have tens of thousands of cases today."

That statement is simultaneously terrifying and reassuring.


That statement is also bullsheit.

How many cases would we have if we tested everyone?

But no, anyone showing Trotman symptoms were denied.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 89 cases, 5 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby bluefete » April 3rd, 2020, 12:21 pm

What do you have to say now that the Ministry finally gave out guidelines for mask wearing?

That was useless information I posted giving both sides of the argument on Wednesday, right?

Note that no one has talked about the temporary loss of smell and taste as a symptom of the virus. Useless information indeed.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby aaron17 » April 3rd, 2020, 12:28 pm

paid_influencer wrote:In today's press conference, the CMO has made the following recommendations on masks:

[*] ALL sick persons should wear a mask (even at home).
[*] ALL elderly persons should wear a mask when in public
[*] ALL persons with chronic medical condition (diabetes, hypertension, etc) should wear a mask when in public
[*] ALL healthcare workers should wear a mask

[*] Mask in this case means any face covering, not necessarily surgical masks.
[*] N95 grade masks should be only be used by healthcare workers and only for specific procedures
All healthy persons should wear a mask...they don't know if they have it.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby bluefete » April 3rd, 2020, 12:35 pm

Everyone should be wearing masks of some kind. An infected person, not knowing they are infected, can spread the virus by speaking at close range (via spittle) to a non-infected person, if both are not wearing masks.

But Trevor Sayers - yadda yadda yadda (toting feelings, nah, abducted!).

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby bluefete » April 3rd, 2020, 12:35 pm

Thanks you aaron 17. Well said! I did not see your post before I wrote and posted mine.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby toyolink » April 3rd, 2020, 12:48 pm

One must really wonder if this is natures way to cull the pack of humanity.
Actually, the deliberately stupid among us may very well be the most vulnerable.
The innocently ignorant (the babies) appear to the most protected.
Nature does come with unavoidable order.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby SMc » April 3rd, 2020, 12:55 pm

aaron17 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:In today's press conference, the CMO has made the following recommendations on masks:

[*] ALL sick persons should wear a mask (even at home).
[*] ALL elderly persons should wear a mask when in public
[*] ALL persons with chronic medical condition (diabetes, hypertension, etc) should wear a mask when in public
[*] ALL healthcare workers should wear a mask

[*] Mask in this case means any face covering, not necessarily surgical masks.
[*] N95 grade masks should be only be used by healthcare workers and only for specific procedures
All healthy persons should wear a mask...they don't know if they have it.


I hope you have one already- Trump deployed the DPA last night towards 3M (the largest global manufacturer of 95 respirators) which means that they have taken (or tried thus far) to secure all respirators 3M manufactures globally for the US, cutting countries like Canada & Latin America (where T&T sits) out of the US manufactured product. other countries have already responded by not sending respirators made in their region to the US- the expected outcome of the decision is that the US ends up with less respirators- good move.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby computercentral » April 3rd, 2020, 1:08 pm

Just got real in Barbados curfew from 5 today people panicking at the moment

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby paid_influencer » April 3rd, 2020, 1:13 pm

computercentral wrote:Just got real in Barbados curfew from 5 today people panicking at the moment


closing groceries is surefire way to cause panic. Let's see how it works out for them. :drinking:

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby 88sins » April 3rd, 2020, 1:18 pm

SMc wrote:
aaron17 wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:In today's press conference, the CMO has made the following recommendations on masks:

[*] ALL sick persons should wear a mask (even at home).
[*] ALL elderly persons should wear a mask when in public
[*] ALL persons with chronic medical condition (diabetes, hypertension, etc) should wear a mask when in public
[*] ALL healthcare workers should wear a mask

[*] Mask in this case means any face covering, not necessarily surgical masks.
[*] N95 grade masks should be only be used by healthcare workers and only for specific procedures
All healthy persons should wear a mask...they don't know if they have it.


I hope you have one already- Trump deployed the DPA last night towards 3M (the largest global manufacturer of 95 respirators) which means that they have taken (or tried thus far) to secure all respirators 3M manufactures globally for the US, cutting countries like Canada & Latin America (where T&T sits) out of the US manufactured product. other countries have already responded by not sending respirators made in their region to the US- the expected outcome of the decision is that the US ends up with less respirators- good move.

short story shorter
murica say ftw we before anybody else, then the world say f@ck murica.
status will soon be every man for themselves, and lil T&T will feel the squeeze

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby maj. tom » April 3rd, 2020, 1:30 pm

TT could have been the agriculture powerhouse of the Caribbean and exporting to the smaller CARICOM nations who will get hit hard with the food imports. We have all the technical knowledge and resources too, UWI and CABI. I think that was the British idea as well when they administered CABI in 1946.

You think this agenda will change politically after this?

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby bluefete » April 3rd, 2020, 1:31 pm

Actually, the mask thing may not be as bad as some are making it out to be.

You can make a mask from an old jersey, a clean sanitary pad and so on.

The key is to try and prevent transmission via spittle and breathing droplets.

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Postby aaron17 » April 3rd, 2020, 1:32 pm

I was reading the moh public health ordinance regulation document. Can someone tell me where the subregulation 2 is?

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Postby bluefete » April 3rd, 2020, 1:34 pm

maj. tom wrote:TT could have been the agriculture powerhouse of the Caribbean and exporting to the smaller CARICOM nations who will get hit hard with the food imports. We have all the technical knowledge and resources too, UWI and CABI. I think that was the British idea as well when they administered CABI in 1946.

You think this agenda will change politically after this?


Not a chance in sh.t. As long as Rowley, Imbert and Kams in charge, agriculture will always be the outside child in their administrations.

Go back to 1986 with the NAR. If we had followed their policies then 34 years later we would have been "the agriculture powerhouse of the Cribbean."

We just have to make do with importing yams from Ghana.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby maj. tom » April 3rd, 2020, 1:35 pm

Making a certified N95 mask is not a simple process though.
It's energy intensive and requires a lot of technical knowledge and resources to mass produce.

9 points that need to be met for N95:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... 39c4304989

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Postby Dohplaydat » April 3rd, 2020, 1:36 pm

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591- ... 92Brd0RHbE

Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.

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Postby bluefete » April 3rd, 2020, 1:38 pm

aaron17 wrote:I was reading the moh public health ordinance regulation document. Can someone tell me where the subregulation 2 is?


On pg. 233, there is a 2 (1) and a 2 (2) -which deals with the penalty for carrying more than 50% of people in your taxi

http://news.gov.tt/sites/default/files/ ... NEW%29.pdf

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Postby Dohplaydat » April 3rd, 2020, 1:38 pm

mero wrote:
paid_influencer wrote:CMO in today's press conference:

"If we had transmission during Carnival, we would have tens of thousands of cases today."

That statement is simultaneously terrifying and reassuring.


CMO now added to list of untrustworthy deceptive PNM ppl. How dare he

Funny how team BaN CArnIVAL/I’m so classy/ daz PNM ppl ting/I rather fly out to Keneda and Mehyami or go on a fcking cruise instead, directly placed more at risk than Carnival masqueraders for that period.


Been saying this since the start of this thread when men wanted to ban carnival but still leave borders open. There is no espcaing this virus, only controlling the spread.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby bluefete » April 3rd, 2020, 1:50 pm

Look carefully at the date of this article.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020 ... tages.html

Japanese get creative in face of coronavirus crisis mask shortages
KYODO NEWS KYODO NEWS - Feb 25, 2020 - 15:05


Desperate to protect themselves against the coronavirus that is sweeping parts of the planet, but unable to buy face masks due to shortages, people in Japan are going to unusual lengths with DIY solutions.

While fearful Chinese people are forced into some extreme, if strange, measures such as using fruit skins, plastic bottles, sanitary pads, and even bras as makeshift face masks, many Japanese are coming up with ingenious solutions of their own.

Fears from COVID-19, as the disease has been named by the World Health Organization, have led to worldwide mask shortages, not only triggering panic buying but also a crime wave as opportunists get their hands on masks to sell at inflated, fear-driven prices.

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Recently, thieves stole 6,000 surgical masks from a hospital in Kobe, western Japan, and armed robbers stole 600 rolls of toilet paper after mugging a delivery man outside a Hong Kong supermarket as fears of supply shortages mount.

In Japan, those who have come across only empty store shelves and who refuse to pay the exorbitant prices set by online gougers have turned to depression-era kinds of frugal creativity.

Handmade masks are trending on social media, with Instagrammers posting tutorial videos on how to construct them using handkerchiefs, scarves, or even coffee filters and elastic bands.

While some experts advise handwashing is more effective than wearing a face mask or go as far as saying reusable masks are dangerous to your health, many still believe that any mask is better protection than no mask at all.

Virologists, on the other hand, have doubts about the effectiveness of masks against airborne viruses, although there is some evidence to suggest they can help prevent hand-to-mouth transfer.

Handicraft magazine Cotton Time, published by Shufu To Seikatsu Sha Co., recently shared a step-by-step guide instructing how to make a DIY face mask on its website using a free downloadable sewing pattern (https://www.cottontimemagazine.com/page/10), and was surprised to see a giant spike in page views.

"Our magazine is published bi-monthly, but we couldn't afford to wait, so we decided to put it up on our website. At times like these, you simply help because that's the right thing to do," said Yumi Ishida, editor-in-chief of the magazine.

"We're getting 10 times more traffic than we normally get. A lot of people have been sharing DIY masks on social media, but we've used our craft expertise to come up with this 3D mask pattern. You don't need a sewing machine. Even if you haven't sewn since your home economics class in school, you'll figure it out."

According to the Japan Hygiene Products Industry Association, more than 5.5 billion disposable face masks were manufactured in Japan in 2018, of which 4.3 billion were for private use.

In ever-trend-conscious Japan, masks have become a fashion accessory worn to make a statement, with many giving no consideration to health and hygiene when masking up.

For some, it is about conforming to a social norm. For others, it is like an addiction.

But the coronavirus has made face masks and hand sanitizers essential, especially for the elderly.

DIY mask instructionals have been making the rounds on YouTube and social media, with some craftspeople selling handmade pieces and others sharing their creative hacks on how to make a mask with a few basic supplies found in most homes.

Yuki Inomata, a blogger and fabric crafter who goes by @neige__y on Instagram, says she expected an influx of visitors to her blog when the news of the coronavirus broke because of what she experienced during the SARS epidemic in 2002-2003.

"At that time, page views soared from a typical 500 per day to 4,000. When I saw what was happening (with the new coronavirus), I had to put my jobs on hold and focus on helping by sharing my skills with others," Inomata said.

"I see people using their hands to cover their mouths when they cough or sneeze. I don't know if masks actually keep people from getting or giving viruses, but at least it stops the flecks of saliva from flying into the air," she said.

With surgical masks from major retailers near impossible to buy in Japan, Inomata says working out how to stitch your own version is so much easier today with a skill-sharing platform like social media.

You will find an illustrated guide to making masks using paper towels, rubber bands and staples on @nekohnd's Twitter account.

A tweet from the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department's Disaster Response Division (@MPD_bousai) teaches you how to wear masks and dispose of them properly, while a free DIY mask instruction manual is available in English, Chinese and Korean on the Oita prefectural government's website (https://www.pref.oita.jp/site/bosaianze ... orona.html).

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Re: Novel Coronavirus - “COVID-19” - 97 cases, 6 deaths confirmed in T&T

Postby SMc » April 3rd, 2020, 1:55 pm

bluefete wrote:Actually, the mask thing may not be as bad as some are making it out to be.

You can make a mask from an old jersey, a clean sanitary pad and so on.

The key is to try and prevent transmission via spittle and breathing droplets.


Thats like saying I could make my own effective shades at home, all I need to do is cut the bottom off 2 sprite bottle-run a rubber band through them and stick them over me head, they covering by eyes and I could still kinda see- taadaa.-It dont work that way

Respirators filter out incoming particles, ole jersey + maxi will only help stop particles going out if correctly fitted , and only applies if you already infected with something- good luck if you want to try that. If it does work and you that confident it does, post a pic of you walking around Massey with maxi-pad strapped around your face

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