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devrat wrote:I'm hearing Green Acres / Coconut Drivenemisis wrote:Where south did the first death reside?
boxy wrote:Your arguement is getting annoying now.
On another note here is an example of the stupidity of Boris Johnson before and regret after. Take note of the way he stresses on the term mild symptoms for all the Web MD graduates who still think the specialists are saying the virus is mild.
https://twitter.com/mufc_1878_1902/stat ... 02437?s=09Gladiator wrote:From the timeline in the article...is it safe to say that if we did not have Carnival Mr Leon would not have come to Trinidad and died and whoever he infected could have been avoided.
Awaits the carnival jumbies to start their rants...hydroep wrote:The CMO/MOH is withholding the date when the gentleman was (first) admitted. Why?...
Wide tracing net needed for 1st COVID fatality
Mark Bassant, Lead Editor - Investigative
Hansel Leon, who died of a COVID-19-related illness at the Couva Hospital on Wednesday.
There are still several burning questions that have not been answered by Ministry of Health authorities in the death of 77-year-old Hansel Leon, a US citizen who succumbed to complications from the COVID-19 on Wednesday close to noon at the Couva Hospital. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that the Ministry’s of Health’s contact tracing net for persons he may have come into contact with will have to be cast wide.
During a post-Cabinet media briefing opn Thursday, Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram skirted around several questions raised about Leon and failed to give clear answers on when the patient was first admitted to a medical facility before he was later transferred to the Couva Hospital, where his condition worsened.
But Guardian Media was able to obtain some vital information not only concerning Leon’s travel but also his activity over the last few weeks with a friend of the man’s relatives.
Senior immigration sources told Guardian Media that Leon, who was staying at his sister’s house in South Trinidad, arrived in the country on flight BW521 on February 7 from New York. The man also visited Trinidad last year, arriving on February 20 and leaving on March 22 - senior immigration sources added.
“He comes every year for Carnival,” a family friend said Thursday.
In the weeks leading up to Carnival, Leon had been socialising and attending public events.
“For all of February he was fine but one of his close relatives where he was staying told him he should not be venturing out so often because of COVID-19,” revealed the family friend.
But on March 1, the week after Carnival, there was a gathering Leon attended along with his friend, also from New York, where there were several other foreign nationals also present, the family friend said.
“I know that he passed out on a chair from tiredness that night and his friend later took him home. About four days later (March 5) he went to a funeral,” the family friend said.
A few days later, Leon fell ill and his friend from New York, who had gone to visit him at his relative’s home, said he did not look well and they decided to call an ambulance.
“From what I was told, he was taken to the San Fernando General Hospital and I know when they admitted him he gave his son’s contact information in Atlanta,” said the friend.
The friend said they believe it was “quite likely that someone else who was ill with the virus may have passed it on to him.”
Leon seems to have been taken to the Couva Hospital sometime between March 13 and 15, where he was being treated until he died on Wednesday, which would suggest he took well over the two to 14-day period which current medical experts suggest before showing symptoms after exposure.
Parasram said there were outliers (anomalies) that didn’t fix the general statistic trend with his case. He said in some cases, patients could show symptoms up to 42 days after.
“All of us have been working with 14 days and we are hoping to God that it is right. There has been shown viremic patients up to 42 days in the research, some as far as beyond 42 days, documented 21 days and carrying viral illness.”
However, he steered clear of indicating when Leon was admitted and if he was admitted around March 13, why his case wasn’t declared to the pubic in some measure since the first two cases declared by the Ministry of Health did not match his age. The ages of the first two COVID-19 patients were 52 and 66 respectively.
Up to Thursday, according to the Ministry of Health, T&T had 65 confirmed cases of COVID and 415 people had been tested.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/wide-tracing-net-needed-for-1st-covid-fatality-6.2.1087619.1a5fbcd137
Your link isn't leading to a page however hopefully it was not this you were referring to when talking about Boris!!boxy wrote:Your arguement is getting annoying now.
On another note here is an example of the stupidity of Boris Johnson before and regret after. Take note of the way he stresses on the term mild symptoms for all the Web MD graduates who still think the specialists are saying the virus is mild.
https://twitter.com/mufc_1878_1902/stat ... 02437?s=09Gladiator wrote:From the timeline in the article...is it safe to say that if we did not have Carnival Mr Leon would not have come to Trinidad and died and whoever he infected could have been avoided.
Awaits the carnival jumbies to start their rants...hydroep wrote:The CMO/MOH is withholding the date when the gentleman was (first) admitted. Why?...
Wide tracing net needed for 1st COVID fatality
Mark Bassant, Lead Editor - Investigative
Hansel Leon, who died of a COVID-19-related illness at the Couva Hospital on Wednesday.
There are still several burning questions that have not been answered by Ministry of Health authorities in the death of 77-year-old Hansel Leon, a US citizen who succumbed to complications from the COVID-19 on Wednesday close to noon at the Couva Hospital. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that the Ministry’s of Health’s contact tracing net for persons he may have come into contact with will have to be cast wide.
During a post-Cabinet media briefing opn Thursday, Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram skirted around several questions raised about Leon and failed to give clear answers on when the patient was first admitted to a medical facility before he was later transferred to the Couva Hospital, where his condition worsened.
But Guardian Media was able to obtain some vital information not only concerning Leon’s travel but also his activity over the last few weeks with a friend of the man’s relatives.
Senior immigration sources told Guardian Media that Leon, who was staying at his sister’s house in South Trinidad, arrived in the country on flight BW521 on February 7 from New York. The man also visited Trinidad last year, arriving on February 20 and leaving on March 22 - senior immigration sources added.
“He comes every year for Carnival,” a family friend said Thursday.
In the weeks leading up to Carnival, Leon had been socialising and attending public events.
“For all of February he was fine but one of his close relatives where he was staying told him he should not be venturing out so often because of COVID-19,” revealed the family friend.
But on March 1, the week after Carnival, there was a gathering Leon attended along with his friend, also from New York, where there were several other foreign nationals also present, the family friend said.
“I know that he passed out on a chair from tiredness that night and his friend later took him home. About four days later (March 5) he went to a funeral,” the family friend said.
A few days later, Leon fell ill and his friend from New York, who had gone to visit him at his relative’s home, said he did not look well and they decided to call an ambulance.
“From what I was told, he was taken to the San Fernando General Hospital and I know when they admitted him he gave his son’s contact information in Atlanta,” said the friend.
The friend said they believe it was “quite likely that someone else who was ill with the virus may have passed it on to him.”
Leon seems to have been taken to the Couva Hospital sometime between March 13 and 15, where he was being treated until he died on Wednesday, which would suggest he took well over the two to 14-day period which current medical experts suggest before showing symptoms after exposure.
Parasram said there were outliers (anomalies) that didn’t fix the general statistic trend with his case. He said in some cases, patients could show symptoms up to 42 days after.
“All of us have been working with 14 days and we are hoping to God that it is right. There has been shown viremic patients up to 42 days in the research, some as far as beyond 42 days, documented 21 days and carrying viral illness.”
However, he steered clear of indicating when Leon was admitted and if he was admitted around March 13, why his case wasn’t declared to the pubic in some measure since the first two cases declared by the Ministry of Health did not match his age. The ages of the first two COVID-19 patients were 52 and 66 respectively.
Up to Thursday, according to the Ministry of Health, T&T had 65 confirmed cases of COVID and 415 people had been tested.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/wide-tracing-net-needed-for-1st-covid-fatality-6.2.1087619.1a5fbcd137
Dizzy28 wrote:Your link isn't leading to a page however hopefully it was not this you were referring to when talking about Boris!!boxy wrote:Your arguement is getting annoying now.
On another note here is an example of the stupidity of Boris Johnson before and regret after. Take note of the way he stresses on the term mild symptoms for all the Web MD graduates who still think the specialists are saying the virus is mild.
https://twitter.com/mufc_1878_1902/stat ... 02437?s=09Gladiator wrote:From the timeline in the article...is it safe to say that if we did not have Carnival Mr Leon would not have come to Trinidad and died and whoever he infected could have been avoided.
Awaits the carnival jumbies to start their rants...hydroep wrote:The CMO/MOH is withholding the date when the gentleman was (first) admitted. Why?...
Wide tracing net needed for 1st COVID fatality
Mark Bassant, Lead Editor - Investigative
Hansel Leon, who died of a COVID-19-related illness at the Couva Hospital on Wednesday.
There are still several burning questions that have not been answered by Ministry of Health authorities in the death of 77-year-old Hansel Leon, a US citizen who succumbed to complications from the COVID-19 on Wednesday close to noon at the Couva Hospital. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that the Ministry’s of Health’s contact tracing net for persons he may have come into contact with will have to be cast wide.
During a post-Cabinet media briefing opn Thursday, Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram skirted around several questions raised about Leon and failed to give clear answers on when the patient was first admitted to a medical facility before he was later transferred to the Couva Hospital, where his condition worsened.
But Guardian Media was able to obtain some vital information not only concerning Leon’s travel but also his activity over the last few weeks with a friend of the man’s relatives.
Senior immigration sources told Guardian Media that Leon, who was staying at his sister’s house in South Trinidad, arrived in the country on flight BW521 on February 7 from New York. The man also visited Trinidad last year, arriving on February 20 and leaving on March 22 - senior immigration sources added.
“He comes every year for Carnival,” a family friend said Thursday.
In the weeks leading up to Carnival, Leon had been socialising and attending public events.
“For all of February he was fine but one of his close relatives where he was staying told him he should not be venturing out so often because of COVID-19,” revealed the family friend.
But on March 1, the week after Carnival, there was a gathering Leon attended along with his friend, also from New York, where there were several other foreign nationals also present, the family friend said.
“I know that he passed out on a chair from tiredness that night and his friend later took him home. About four days later (March 5) he went to a funeral,” the family friend said.
A few days later, Leon fell ill and his friend from New York, who had gone to visit him at his relative’s home, said he did not look well and they decided to call an ambulance.
“From what I was told, he was taken to the San Fernando General Hospital and I know when they admitted him he gave his son’s contact information in Atlanta,” said the friend.
The friend said they believe it was “quite likely that someone else who was ill with the virus may have passed it on to him.”
Leon seems to have been taken to the Couva Hospital sometime between March 13 and 15, where he was being treated until he died on Wednesday, which would suggest he took well over the two to 14-day period which current medical experts suggest before showing symptoms after exposure.
Parasram said there were outliers (anomalies) that didn’t fix the general statistic trend with his case. He said in some cases, patients could show symptoms up to 42 days after.
“All of us have been working with 14 days and we are hoping to God that it is right. There has been shown viremic patients up to 42 days in the research, some as far as beyond 42 days, documented 21 days and carrying viral illness.”
However, he steered clear of indicating when Leon was admitted and if he was admitted around March 13, why his case wasn’t declared to the pubic in some measure since the first two cases declared by the Ministry of Health did not match his age. The ages of the first two COVID-19 patients were 52 and 66 respectively.
Up to Thursday, according to the Ministry of Health, T&T had 65 confirmed cases of COVID and 415 people had been tested.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/wide-tracing-net-needed-for-1st-covid-fatality-6.2.1087619.1a5fbcd137
Redman wrote:It's pretty informative how the Opposition leaders statements so succinctly identifies the UNCs position at this point in time
Well done KPB.
Redman wrote:It's pretty informative how the Opposition leaders statements so succinctly identifies the UNCs position at this point in time
Well done KPB.
nismotrinidappa wrote:Anybody saw the Chinese military officer confession on whatsapp message? Anybody can confirm anything if it's true? Don't want to post it just so and cause unnecessary panic
goalpost wrote:Redman wrote:It's pretty informative how the Opposition leaders statements so succinctly identifies the UNCs position at this point in time
Well done KPB.
boi, KPB losing the little bit of point remaining in the way she politicizing everything.
somebody advising she real badly.
bossmann wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Any other graphs like this for T&T?
Screenshot 2020-03-26 at 11.26.55 PM.jpg
https://covid19info.live/trinidadandtobago/
covidtt.PNG
Click the cog above the graph and set the day to 0
goalpost wrote:Redman wrote:It's pretty informative how the Opposition leaders statements so succinctly identifies the UNCs position at this point in time
Well done KPB.
boi, KPB losing the little bit of point remaining in the way she politicizing everything.
somebody advising she real badly.
boxy wrote:That is the job of the opposition leader though so you can't really fault her for doing what her job objectives outline. Rowley would have done something similar if the media put a mic to his face and asked him for his opinion as opposition leader.
I just think she should just check them on actual faults they make. Instead of grabbing at straws. The only way for her to get a win out of this is if Rowley tests positive for the virus and it was contracted in Ghana. So she can bury him in his incompetence and stupidity but the incubation period is pretty much over to show symptoms.
On another note I would have loved to know Fuad Khan thoughts when he saw that death announcement I sure he face palmed because he and other members of the opposition who are doctors are fully aware of the medical protocols of patients deaths.goalpost wrote:Redman wrote:It's pretty informative how the Opposition leaders statements so succinctly identifies the UNCs position at this point in time
Well done KPB.
boi, KPB losing the little bit of point remaining in the way she politicizing everything.
somebody advising she real badly.
Until they get infected again...be careful patient #Dave wrote:Discharge! Yes! Excellent!
Wish the individual all the best.
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