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Postby The_Honourable » March 13th, 2020, 12:34 am

GECOM Chair suspends tabulation of Reg. 4 votes

Chair of the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM), Justice (ret’d) Claudette Singh has suspended the tabulation of votes from the Region 4 district. This suspension has occurred in an effort to clarify the ruling by Chief Justice, Roxane George-Wiltshire.

On Wednesday, the Chief Justice issued an order for the Returning Officer (RO) for District Four, Clairmont Mingo, to return to the legally prescribed procedure for tabulating the votes for region four after she deemed the previously declaration to be unlawful on the grounds that the tabulation used to arrive at it was in breach of the law. However when the process restarted on Thursday morning, the RO sought out to use a spreadsheet, which was objected to by all political parties, except the APNU+AFC coalition.

Opposition- appointed commissioner, Sase Gunraj, said that, “The RO, Mingo, is refusing to use or present Statements of Poll to ascertain the total number of votes cast in favour of each contesting party. He is instead attempting to use a spreadsheet, which is a clear breach of the tenets of Sec 84(1) of the Representation of the People Act, Cap 3:01.

The CJ handed down a consequential order that in interest of transparency, but taking into consideration the need for urgency, the RO is to decide whether the process of ascertaining the total number of votes cast in favor of each list in the district by adding up the votes recorded in favor of the list in accordance with the Statement of Polls delivered, should be restarted or continued.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2020 ... g-4-votes/



Contempt charge looms over GECOM

Attorney-at-Law Anil Nandlall, on behalf of Reeaz Holladar, will make an application to the Chief Justice today at 10:30 am for a contempt charge to be brought before several Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) officials on the grounds that they failed or refused to comply with the order of Chief Justice Roxane George-Wiltshire in her Wednesday ruling.

The Chief Justice had ruled that there was a breach of the law by Returning Officer for Region Four, Clairmont Mingo, and that the declaration he made as a result of the procedural breach was vitiated. As a result, the CJ ordered that Mingo return to the process by 11 am yesterday.

It is this order that the intended application purports that Mingo breached.

The application purports the respondents to be Mingo; Chief Elections Officer, Keith Lowenfield; and the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM) through its servants and agents, GECOM Chair, Claudette Singh and the three government-nominated Commissioners, Vincent Alexander, Desmond Trotman and Charles Corbin.

It requests an order that the respondents stand committed to the Georgetown Prison or such place or such place of confinement for one month, and a fine of no less than $750,000 for being in contempt of the Court.
Mingo is accused in the document of failing to commence compliance with section 84(1) of the Representation of the People Act by 11 am yesterday. It had been indicated to the press that the process would start by 11. At least one party representative said that the process began minutes past 11 am.

Mingo is also accused of failing and/or refusing to ascertain the votes recorded in favour of each list of candidates in accordance with the statements of poll, “but instead, chose to use a pre-prepared spreadsheet, as the basis for the ascertaining and adding up of the said votes”.

The Chief Justice’s Wednesday ruling had made it clear that the returning officer is free to decide on the method of tabulation for the ascertainment process, even if it is a spreadsheet. However, the contention of several parties, including the People’s Progressive Party (PPP) is not with the general use of a spreadsheet, but with the fact that the spreadsheet presented by Mingo yesterday contained tabulations not witnessed by the observers and the election agents.

They indicated that they were not convinced that the source of the numbers on the spreadsheet came from the Statements of Poll. Further, Sase Gunraj told reporters yesterday that Mingo indicated, after being questioned, that the spreadsheet he brought yesterday is the same spreadsheet employed for the previous tabulation process which led to the first declaration by Mingo. That declaration has now been declared unlawful by the Chief Justice.

The intended application also purports that Mingo failed and/or refused to allow the duly appointed candidates for all political parties for electoral District number Four to be present at the said exercise, and that he failed to allow all persons entitled under Section 84(1) of the Act to be present.

A GECOM official, Colin April, had approached the press, observers and party agents in the morning, yesterday, indicating that only one representative would be allowed from each observer group and one party agent, to witness the count.

In her ruling, the Chief Justice had said that the presence of all of the officials entitled to witness the count as stated in section 84(1) in the Representation of the People Act is not mandatory. However, in the interest of transparency, she ruled that if they are present, they must witness the count.

Several observers and duly appointed candidates did present themselves at the GECOM centre, but most of them were refused entry. Lastly, the purported application states that the respondents failed and or refused to take into consideration the need for urgency as directed by the Court.

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Postby zoom rader » March 13th, 2020, 7:02 am

The real issue in Guyana is that black folk don't want to be ruled by no perceived Injun goverment. The same situation happened in Fiji.

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Postby antlind » March 13th, 2020, 10:41 am

zoom rader wrote:The real issue in Guyana is that black folk don't want to be ruled by no perceived Injun goverment. The same situation happened in Fiji.


Back to the days of Forbes Burhman. Under his rule many Indo Guyanese left or were forced to flee the country. His modus operandi is one of the main reasons why racism is Guyana is as bad as it is today.

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Postby speedmelter » March 13th, 2020, 5:20 pm

antlind wrote:
zoom rader wrote:The real issue in Guyana is that black folk don't want to be ruled by no perceived Injun goverment. The same situation happened in Fiji.


Back to the days of Forbes Burhman. Under his rule many Indo Guyanese left or were forced to flee the country. His modus operandi is one of the main reasons why racism is Guyana is as bad as it is today.


Yup, black folk in Guyana still live in shame today because of that man. He essentially destroyed that country. I find it so sad that after the destruction he brought they never changed their culture for the good.

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Postby Snyper » March 13th, 2020, 5:26 pm

that's why most of the injuns that migrate made something of themselves while the blacks continue to live in poverty

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Postby eliteauto » March 13th, 2020, 7:49 pm

https://newsroom.gy/2020/03/13/breaking ... 4PZ_mIAIDs

The process being conducted by the Returning Officer for Region 4 to ascertain the results of the national and regional elections held on March 2 does not meet the required standard of fairness and transparency.

The Chief Justice’s ruling handed down on March 11 required the Returning Officer or Deputy Returning Officer to determine the best method of tabulating the Statements of Poll and included the expectation “that the Returning Officer would act reasonably in ensuring a process that allows persons to observe what is being tabulated and how”.

This has not occurred. Instead, and without any plausible explanation, the Returning Officer continued to ascertain the votes cast for each party list without affording the duly authorized candidates and counting agents an opportunity to see the Statements of Poll, in order to compare them with the copies in their possession. Such a process could have been easily facilitated using the same technology which allows the tabulation to be displayed.

The Returning Officer’s defiance of the Chief Justice’s orders and expectations, and his refusal to allow the Statements of Poll to be exhibited, gives credence to the allegations that the numbers being tabulated do not correspond with the numbers appearing on the Statements of Poll prepared following the March 2 elections.

The Mission has noted that images of the Statements of Poll published by the PPP/Civic, on its website, which it claims were given to its polling agents after the ballots were counted at each polling station on the night of the elections, produce a result that is vastly different from that being declared by the Returning Officer and would have a decisive effect on the outcome of the national election.

To date, neither the Chief Elections Officer nor APNU has challenged the authenticity of the Statements of Poll published by the PPP/Civic by producing the copies in their possession. The implications are deeply troubling and make it all the more necessary for the Returning Officer to display the Statements of Poll on which he is relying.

The OAS Election Observer Mission was pleased to have declared that the March 2 poll was, in almost all respects, well executed. The subsequent tabulation of the Statements of Poll in the other nine regions was carried out in compliance with the law and no dispute has arisen in relation to the declaration of results.

However, the process employed by the Returning Officer for Region 4 is not transparent and, based on the numbers that have emanated since the process was first disrupted, is unlikely to produce a result that is credible and is able to command public confidence.

The legitimacy of any government that is installed in these circumstances will be open to question. This would be a terrible blow to the country’s democracy. The people of Guyana do not deserve this.

Given the circumstances cited above, the OAS Electoral Observation Mission regrets that it has no option but to withdraw from Guyana. The Chief of Mission will prepare his report for submission to the Secretary General.

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Postby De Dragon » March 13th, 2020, 8:40 pm

GECOM boss have some brass ones for sure! Willing to face contempt charges to brownnose to Burnham, err sorry Granger.

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Postby zoom rader » March 13th, 2020, 9:45 pm

De Dragon wrote:GECOM boss have some brass ones for sure! Willing to face contempt charges to brownnose to Burnham, err sorry Granger.
GECOM and EBC are cut from the same cloth.

We have to be extra careful with EBC , they really are an extension of the PNM and their motives to steal the upcommimg elections.

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Postby The_Honourable » March 14th, 2020, 1:42 am

11 days after elections… Late-night Region Four declaration puts coalition ahead

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Returning officer, Clairmont Mingo made a declaration of the region four general and regional election results shortly before midnight last night at the Guyana Elections Commission (GECOM)’s Kingston office.

The media had been invited to witness the declaration, but upon arrival at the location, Kaieteur News reporters were almost assaulted, then chased away from the centre by a crowd screaming “No media!”

Reporters from other publications also said that they were prevented from entering.


After a few moments of waiting afar from the centre in a locked vehicle, Kaieteur News’ reporters heard loud cheering, then saw a Facebook post from The Citizenship Initiative (TCI)’s presidential candidate, Rhonda-Ann Lam, that a declaration had been made and that Mingo had been surrounded by police officers and quickly escorted from the premises in a vehicle.

Photos of the declarations were sent to the media after the declaration. The regional election result showed that A Partnership for National Unity + Alliance for Change (APNU+AFC) gained 130,289 votes, while the People’s Progressive Party/ Civic (PPP/C) gained 74,877 votes. Votes gained by other parties were all less than a thousand.
In the general election, APNU+AFC got 136,057 votes and PPP/C got 77,231 votes. The general election results for all of the regions, including the national total are displayed in the table attached. APNU+AFC has a lead of 7,457 votes.

The tabulation process for the region four general and regional elections results has been marred by a lack of transparency, accusations of fraud and international condemnation. Several parties had indicated that they will request a recount.

https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2020 ... ion-ahead/

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Postby The_Honourable » March 14th, 2020, 1:43 am

APNU+AFC announced as Guyana election winner

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The Returning Officer for District Four, Guyana, Clairmont Mingo has named the ruling party, A Partnership For National Unity and Alliance For Change (APNU+AFC) the winners of the Regional and General Elections for the area.

APNU+AFC secured 136,057 of 217,425 valid votes cast in the general election in District Four and 130,289 of 207,436 valid votes cast in the regional election in District Four.

The only party representative to sign off on the votes was the APNU+AFC representative.

Parties have until noon to request a recount.

The results came hours after the Organization of American States (OAS) on Friday withdrew its observer mission from Guyana’s disputed presidential election, citing concerns over the fairness and transparency of vote counting.

Top diplomats from the United States, European Union, Britain and Canada also walked out of the elections headquarters Friday in Georgetown, Guyana’s capital, where the count was being held.


The March 2 election has been marred by accusations of fraud in favour of President David Granger, who is running against Irfaan Ali of the opposition People’s Progressive Party to lead the former British colony.

https://www.cnc3.co.tt/apnuafc-announce ... on-winner/

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Postby speedmelter » March 14th, 2020, 8:01 pm

What a disgrace, false democracy is worse than bold aristocracy.

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Banana Republic status confirmed for a next 5 years

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Postby zoom rader » March 14th, 2020, 9:44 pm

They learned well from PNM and stole an election.

Another failed black forced ruled banana republic

What a shame

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Postby De Dragon » March 14th, 2020, 9:48 pm

The US should hit them a "Grenada" and done. Nasty, deceitful unlawful set of MC!

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Postby zoom rader » March 14th, 2020, 9:56 pm

De Dragon wrote:The US should hit them a "Grenada" and done. Nasty, deceitful unlawful set of MC!
It's the same here, just dem PNM ppl more disgusting

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Postby QM » March 14th, 2020, 10:56 pm

Very sad to see a country with a bright future off to a rough start. So many resources...

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Postby zoom rader » March 14th, 2020, 11:03 pm

QM wrote:Very sad to see a country with a bright future off to a rough start. So many resources...
That county doomed with a black goverment, they have not learned from trinidad.

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Postby The_Honourable » May 13th, 2020, 11:13 pm

Golding hits election fraud in Guyana election recount

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Organisation of American States (OAS) observer team head, former Jamaican PM, Bruce Golding, on Wednesday alleged electoral fraud in the recount of the Guyana general elections, citing four ballot box results altered in favour of the ruling APNU.

"I have never seen a more transparent effort to alter the results of an election," he declared in a Facebook "live" recording.

"You know it takes an extraordinarily courageous mind to present fictitious numbers, when such a sturdy paper-trail exists. This is being illustrated now at the recount."

"In ballot box 4062 the statement of poll had indicated 182 votes for APNU and 43 votes for PPP/Civic. The returning officer reported those results as 292 votes for APNU and 33 votes for PPP." The recount confirmed the original results, he said.

Golding said at box 4063, the statement of poll indicated 15 votes for APNU (and) 276 votes for PPP, but the returning officer declared 85 votes for APNU and 246 votes for PPP. He said a recount matched the original numbers.

Golding said at box 4064, the statement of poll showed 70 votes for APNU and 93 votes for PPP. The returning officer declared 170 votes for APNU and 73 votes for PPP. The recount confirmed the election night figures, inclusive of four rejected ballots now included.

At box 4074, the statement of poll showed 86 votes for APNU and 84 votes for PPP. The returning officer declared 140 votes for APNU and 64 votes for PPP, but the recount matched the first results. Golding's face and voice indicated his incredulity at the changed results.

Ambassador Noel Lynch, chair of the Caricom group at OAS on Wednesday hailed Golding's perseverance and voiced Caricom's insistence on democratic practices.

"If each of the political parties genuinely believe it has won, then they should have no fear of the current recount, and they should all support it. Caricom's interest is that, at the end of the recounting process, democracy must be the winner."

Lynch said most Caricom nations are held together by values rooted in centuries of history and fraternity, and in a bitter struggle for their peoples' rights such as the right to elect governments freely and fairly in a democratic process.

"If democracy fails in any Caricom country, it fails in the larger Community. If it is imperilled in any part of our Community, it is imperilled everywhere in it. As an institution, Caricom cannot allow this to happen in any member state.

"Democracy is sacrosanct in Caricom as a treaty organisation, and the institution will not abide its erosion."

Source: https://newsday.co.tt/2020/05/13/goldin ... n-recount/

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Postby zoom rader » May 14th, 2020, 10:56 am

^^^ well bro the same happens in TT , PNM has been rigging elections since 1956. When they want a vote they simply move the boundries and voter pad.

Not one non PNM voter had ever been found guilty for voter padding. To date it has only been PNM voters that have been convicted of padding.

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zoom rader wrote:^^^ well bro the same happens in TT , PNM has been rigging elections since 1956. When they want a vote they simply move the boundries and voter pad.

Not one non PNM voter had ever been found guilty for voter padding. To date it has only been PNM voters that have been convicted of padding.


??

When has anyone ever been convicted of voter padding?

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Postby maj. tom » May 14th, 2020, 11:00 am

Ent the returning officer in that poll was very suspect from the start?
Look at this corruption. Unfortunately i sure it will be a no-stick case because no witnesses, etc.

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Postby zoom rader » May 14th, 2020, 12:16 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:^^^ well bro the same happens in TT , PNM has been rigging elections since 1956. When they want a vote they simply move the boundries and voter pad.

Not one non PNM voter had ever been found guilty for voter padding. To date it has only been PNM voters that have been convicted of padding.


??

When has anyone ever been convicted of voter padding?



This was from the Express, it was played down and not highlighted

It has taken more than a decade for the court to throw out, for want of prosecution, 28 charges of voter padding in the 2000 gene­ral election. The decision re-opens a politically driven chapter, now only dimly recalled, and also gives fresh impetus to concerns about the hopelessly slow and unproductive processes of Trinidad and Tobago justice.
When the voter-padding arrests were made and charges laid, the conduct of elections was a hot focus of political contestation. The People’s National Movement (PNM) made voter padding a cornerstone of its political campaign, with its spokespersons claiming with absolute certitude that the United National Congress (UNC) adminis­tration was plotting to undermine the democratic process and steal the general election. On that basis, both the public and the accused were entitled to expect timely court hearings.
It is thus scandalous that, only in April 2013, a magistrate finally dismissed the cases, with accused persons having been made to appear more than 30 times without prosecutors ever presenting any evidence. So it appears the proof which PNM leaders like Diego Martin North/East MP Colm Imbert claimed to have was never presented to the investigators, which means the voter-padding claims were, at best, a figment of someone’s imagination; or, at worst, a political strategy created by the PNM out of whole cloth to undermine the UNC.
In this regard, it is telling that, in 2007, two persons were in fact convicted of making a false declaration to the Elections and Boundaries Commission for the specific purpose of voter padding, but 52-year-old Judy Joseph and her 29-year-old daughter, Aleena, turned out to be PNM supporters. The PNM understandably never commented on that verdict, not even to warn their supporters against such acts, and it remains to be seen whether the party will now apologise to the 28 persons, most, if not all, of whom had never faced any court matter in their lives and who have for over a decade stood accused of trying to cheat in the electoral process.
It also remains to be satisfactorily explained by the judiciary—but will probably never be—why the magistrate’s decision on Monday to stop the rot could not have been taken, say, the 15th time those cases were called, maybe six years ago.
This is another clear-cut instance in which the administration of justice has been brought into disrepute—in this case, with the connivance of politicians whose claims should have been treated more sceptically. Not only have the accused persons been defamed, inconvenienced, put to expense and even traumatised, but the public would have also found cause to be cynical and even terminally distrustful of the administration of justice.
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Postby De Dragon » May 14th, 2020, 12:46 pm

^^^
PNM tactics, lie, cheat ,steal and only provide "mailbox emails" as proof.

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De Dragon wrote:^^^
PNM tactics, lie, cheat ,steal and only provide "mailbox emails" as proof.
Yes

Very few people know that PNM ppl was convicted for voter padding. The media did not fully report on it .

30 non PNM ppl was dragged in mud and in the media for trumped up charges and all was thrown out for lack of evidence .

You won't hear Redman, redress and elite speak about this

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Postby Dizzy28 » May 15th, 2020, 9:50 am

zoom rader wrote:
De Dragon wrote:^^^
PNM tactics, lie, cheat ,steal and only provide "mailbox emails" as proof.
Yes

Very few people know that PNM ppl was convicted for voter padding. The media did not fully report on it .

30 non PNM ppl was dragged in mud and in the media for trumped up charges and all was thrown out for lack of evidence .

You won't hear Redman, redress and elite speak about this


PNM doesn't need to pad.
They build NHA/HDC developments in strategic locations then proceed to allocate them whilst trying to keep a certain level of diversity.

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Postby zoom rader » May 15th, 2020, 10:14 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
De Dragon wrote:^^^
PNM tactics, lie, cheat ,steal and only provide "mailbox emails" as proof.
Yes

Very few people know that PNM ppl was convicted for voter padding. The media did not fully report on it .

30 non PNM ppl was dragged in mud and in the media for trumped up charges and all was thrown out for lack of evidence .

You won't hear Redman, redress and elite speak about this


PNM doesn't need to pad.
They build NHA/HDC developments in strategic locations then proceed to allocate them whilst trying to keep a certain level of diversity.
These people spoil decent non PNM areas.

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Postby The_Honourable » June 7th, 2020, 11:12 pm

But what trouble is dis :lol:

PPP/C declared winner on Guyana elections

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General Secretary of the PPP/C Dr Bharrat Jagdeo

The PPP/C has emerged the winner of March 2, 2020, General and Regional Elections following the national recount of the final ballot box (#4877) from Region 4 (Demerara-Mahaica) at the Arthur Chung Conference Centre (ACCC) on Sunday.

The PPP/C gained in excess of 15,500 votes over its main rival, A Partnership for National Unity/Alliance for Change (APNU/AFC).

The elections recount was witnessed by representatives of all the nine (9) political parties that contested the elections, observers from Caribbean Community (Caricom), the Organisation of American States (OAS) and local observers including the Private Section Commission and American Chamber of Commerce (AMCHAM).

On March 2, the original counting of the ballots cast had proceeded smoothly and had been completed in nine (9) regions with the PPP/C in a commanding lead.

However, the tabulation of Statements of Poll (SOP’s) was interrupted in District Four (Demerara-Mahaica) after Returning Officer Clairmont Mingo switched from the legal procedure – which ensures transparency where each SOP – that is each SOP had to be exhibited to the stakeholders present to enable comparison to their copies. However, Mingo diverted to a procedure where the purported numbers from the SOP’s were incorporated into a consolidated spreadsheet. This led to immediate calls for transparency from both local and international observers.

After recourse to the High Court, when all the parties excepting APNU/AFC protested the sleight of hand that facilitated an inflation of the votes for that party.

Following a High Court’s decision, Mingo was ordered to revert to the prescribed procedure but he repeated his subterfuge in another guise and submitted totals that varied substantially from those of other parties and had the APNU/AFC ahead rather than the PPPC.

The Chairwoman of GECOM, retired Justice Claudette Singh agreed to a recount of the all votes, which had been proposed by caretaker President David Granger and agreed to by Opposition Leader Bharrat Jagdeo after an intervention by several Caricom leaders.

Since then both leaders have recommitted to accepting the results of the recount.

As the recount process wound down, voices from the domestic and international community – local Church leaders, the Private Sector Commission, the US State Department, Ambassadors of the US, EU, UK, Caricom, OAS have been calling for an acceptance of the recount by all the parties leading to a peaceful transition for the new government that has been chosen by the people of Guyana.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/pppc-dec ... bda514ed24

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Postby zoom rader » June 7th, 2020, 11:18 pm

^^^ Guyana is saved

We just need to save Trinidad from PNM

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Re: Bacchanal in Guyana's Election Results!

Postby speedmelter » June 7th, 2020, 11:46 pm

Don’t be surprised if the Black lives matter Crew start burning the streets there and riots spark.

Imagine granger caught sabotaging results in conjunction with senior officials, get proven but will not see jail or any charge.

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