Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

[purple_heart77]

Neexis 32000 km and counting!!! RAH!!!

hopefully theory tested only while car under warranty

knock on wood grain.. i now hit a 11000 and hoping for the best

Ah right behind, 2280 miles....

[Pointman-IA]

lol...

[neexis]

Ah right behind, 2280 miles....

If is the 6 speed wet clutch DSG you have, I feel you should be safe!! I wish I had one of the other variants... then I woulda do the ECU remap for sure

[purple_heart77]

Ah right behind, 2280 miles....

If is the 6 speed wet clutch DSG you have, I feel you should be safe!! I wish I had one of the other variants... then I woulda do the ECU remap for sure

Yea I have the six speed.
Like the sound of an ECU remap :D

[EcoTune Trinidad]

Somebody called ?

[nemesis]

Neexis 32000 km and counting!!! RAH!!!

hopefully theory tested only while car under warranty

knock on wood grain.. i now hit a 11000 and hoping for the best

You'd better hope that's real wood grain!

[purple_heart77]

Somebody called ?

I have your number

[neexis]

Somebody called ?

I waiting to hear how the silver mk5 Jetta holds up!

[EcoTune Trinidad]

Somebody called ?

I waiting to hear how the silver mk5 Jetta holds up!

Won't be the first time this setup has been tuned on a world level...and certainly won't be the last as this going on in Europe years now and still continuing at present; and no issues save for the minor 2008/9 alleged mechatronic failures on those earlier models, which are completely unrelated to stage 1 tuning

[neexis]

Still.... the same issue of pushing a potentially problematic tranny past its recommended HP and torque values has me being very hesitant about doing it..... also bearing in mind that conditions are very different in Europe.

[drchaos]

Yes europe can get very cold for half of the year ... Cold starts put alot of wear and tear on an engines and transmission as the oil and transmission fluid are not at the right temperatures.

[EcoTune Trinidad]

Still.... the same issue of pushing a potentially problematic tranny past its recommended HP and torque values has me being very hesitant about doing it..... also bearing in mind that conditions are very different in Europe.

It's not the Tranny which is problematic...It was the internals to the mechatronic which brought about issues...but I can respect your concern nonetheless..just know that ALL clutches wear over time and the recommended torque specification is only there to guarantee the maximum allowable mileage achievable on these clutches ie. upwards of 300,000miles...so once you increase torque grabbing pressures this will be shortened.

Yes the climate conditions are different in Europe, but those folks drive harder,faster and more aggressive than us in the tropics and they only drive this way in the summer...

Don't get me wrong bro, just showing you both sides of the coin here..

[Pointman-IA]

Still.... the same issue of pushing a potentially problematic tranny past its recommended HP and torque values has me being very hesitant about doing it..... also bearing in mind that conditions are very different in Europe.

It's not the Tranny which is problematic...It was the internals to the mechatronic which brought about issues...but I can respect your concern nonetheless..just know that ALL clutches wear over time and the recommended torque specification is only there to guarantee the maximum allowable mileage achievable on these clutches ie. upwards of 300,000miles...so once you increase torque grabbing pressures this will be shortened.

Yes the climate conditions are different in Europe, but those folks drive harder,faster and more aggressive than us in the tropics and they only drive this way in the summer...

Don't get me wrong bro, just showing you both sides of the coin here..

Well said..

[neexis]

It's not the Tranny which is problematic...It was the internals to the mechatronic which brought about issues...but I can respect your concern nonetheless..just know that ALL clutches wear over time and the recommended torque specification is only there to guarantee the maximum allowable mileage achievable on these clutches ie. upwards of 300,000miles...so once you increase torque grabbing pressures this will be shortened.

Yes the climate conditions are different in Europe, but those folks drive harder,faster and more aggressive than us in the tropics and they only drive this way in the summer...

Don't get me wrong bro, just showing you both sides of the coin here..

I still don't think summer in Europe is as hot as down here.

I'm still waiting to see how the new DSG7's hold up down here before I go tinkering

[2WNBoost]

Does anyone know whether the DSG on the current Passat makes as much noise as the current Jetta's DSG? Example: When going over humps.
It makes the Jetta sound like an old truck.

[jm3]

So I was looking to buy a new Jetta,
but I have been monitoring this thread first and unfortunately this whole transmission issue reminds me too much of the nightmare I had with my old Peugeot 307,
so I don't think the Jetta is on my list anymore. Shame because I really liked the car during the test drive.

[neexis]

Does anyone know whether the DSG on the current Passat makes as much noise as the current Jetta's DSG? Example: When going over humps.
It makes the Jetta sound like an old truck.

This was actually discussed in the last 2-3 pages.

The Passat has the same DSG7 as the Jetta, and I really haven't heard any noise from it. I turned off the radio and AC and drove with the windows down.... flat road and even over humps, in automatic and manual modes and still nothing.

Bear in mind... VW says the rattling is part of the normal operation due to its design.

Which model did you hear the noise? When I tried the Jetta I drove around the Neal & Massy compound over humps etc. There was some noise but I don't remember it being as bad as "an old truck"

[neexis]

So I was looking to buy a new Jetta,
but I have been monitoring this thread first and unfortunately this whole transmission issue reminds me too much of the nightmare I had with my old Peugeot 307,
so I don't think the Jetta is on my list anymore. Shame because I really liked the car during the test drive.

Well watch and see...

I could be wrong...Except for Rainman's friend, I don't think any MK6 Jettas had any DSG issues so far

From the ones that give trouble: syncrod and cdx2k1 (Mk5), kingskid (golf variant).

Anybody else keeping score?

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Svramotaur and my friend (both mk5 jetta) had mechatronic units replaced.

[2WNBoost]

Does anyone know whether the DSG on the current Passat makes as much noise as the current Jetta's DSG? Example: When going over humps.
It makes the Jetta sound like an old truck.

This was actually discussed in the last 2-3 pages.

The Passat has the same DSG7 as the Jetta, and I really haven't heard any noise from it. I turned off the radio and AC and drove with the windows down.... flat road and even over humps, in automatic and manual modes and still nothing.

Bear in mind... VW says the rattling is part of the normal operation due to its design.

Which model did you hear the noise? When I tried the Jetta I drove around the Neal & Massy compound over humps etc. There was some noise but I don't remember it being as bad as "an old truck"

I've noticed it with the current model Jetta.
You won't hear it on a show room vehicle, but it makes itself known after 12,000 miles or so are on the odometer.

I was just wondering if the DSG units in the Passat offer better sound dampening.

That metallic sound when a Jetta is taking a hump just seems to be a characteristic of cars from decades ago.
It's not something a modern high tech euro spec autobahn tuned auto should wear as a badge.
It's a shame because the eco boxes from Korea and Japan don't put up as much noise.

Who knows, maybe they'll get it right with version <insert appropriate version number>...

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Does anyone know whether the DSG on the current Passat makes as much noise as the current Jetta's DSG? Example: When going over humps.
It makes the Jetta sound like an old truck.

This was actually discussed in the last 2-3 pages.

The Passat has the same DSG7 as the Jetta, and I really haven't heard any noise from it. I turned off the radio and AC and drove with the windows down.... flat road and even over humps, in automatic and manual modes and still nothing.

Bear in mind... VW says the rattling is part of the normal operation due to its design.

Which model did you hear the noise? When I tried the Jetta I drove around the Neal & Massy compound over humps etc. There was some noise but I don't remember it being as bad as "an old truck"

I've noticed it with the current model Jetta.
You won't hear it on a show room vehicle, but it makes itself known after 12,000 miles or so are on the odometer.

I was just wondering if the DSG units in the Passat offer better sound dampening.

That metallic sound when a Jetta is taking a hump just seems to be a characteristic of cars from decades ago.
It's not something a modern high tech euro spec autobahn tuned auto should wear as a badge.
It's a shame because the eco boxes from Korea and Japan don't put up as much noise.

Who knows, maybe they'll get it right with version <insert appropriate version number>...

I noticed mine within a week of owning. It's a fairly common complaint acknowledged by VW. They say it's a "comfort" complaint and have no steps to change it on current vehicles. Only way to get rid of it seems to be to sell the vehicle.

[neexis]

I've noticed it with the current model Jetta.
You won't hear it on a show room vehicle, but it makes itself known after 12,000 miles or so are on the odometer.

I was just wondering if the DSG units in the Passat offer better sound dampening.

Well... it's the same model dry clutch DSG, so there shouldn't be much of a difference wrt sound dampening.

The Passat itself offers better sound insulation in the cabin, but like I said, I tried it with the windows down.
It's only done 11000km so far so hopefully nothing changes

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

This is what happens when manufacturers don't deal with complaints in a positive way initially.
http://m.smh.com.au/drive/motor-news/vo ... 2pbye.html

Volkswagen’s sales have plummeted by almost 20 per cent following its controversial recall of nearly 26,000 cars.

Andrew McKellar, executive director of the Australian Automobile Association, said motorists “have voted with their feet”.

“Volkswagen paid a price for the way in which they handled the recall issue and the fact that they didn’t come out and deal with that issue... in an open, honest and more transparent way.”

“It’s a reminder to all vehicle builders that they need to be open and honest with their customers.

“If they try to handle these issues with corporate spin the market will judge them very harshly.”

According to official sales figures released today by the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries, the brand sold 1226 fewer cars compared with the same period last year, a 19 per cent drop.

In contrast, the Australian car market as a whole was up by 5.5 per cent.

The figures showed Volkswagen’s Golf and Jetta models were hit the hardest, with drops of more than 50 per cent.

Dr Paul Harrison, senior lecturer in branding and marketing at Deakin university said the drop was “massive”, but did not come as a surprise.

“The issue is about perception,” he said.

“It will take quite a while for people to regain that sense of trust, you can’t just paper over it.”

Volkswagen recalled thousands of its Golf, Jetta, Polo and Passat models amid customer complaints surrounding safety and reliability.

The brand’s Australian arm had resisted calls to fix its cars despite Volkswagen issuing widespread recalls in China, Japan and Singapore.

Consumer complaints were sparked by a Victorian coronial inquest into the death of Melissa Ryan, who died in a collision while driving her Volkswagen on the Monash freeway.

A Volkswagen spokesman said the brand has “noticed a drop in Volkswagen passenger vehicle sales for June” but said commercial vehicles sales were strong.

The Toyota Hilux was the best selling car in June, followed by the Toyota Corolla, Mazda3, Hyundai i30 and Mitsubishi Triton.

Toyota remains on top in the sales race, ahead of Holden, Hyundai, Ford and Mazda.


I wonder how trinis would react if something similar happened here.

[Pointman-IA]

This is what happens when manufacturers don't deal with complaints in a positive way initially.
http://m.smh.com.au/drive/motor-news/vo ... 2pbye.html

Volkswagen’s sales have plummeted by almost 20 per cent following its controversial recall of nearly 26,000 cars.

Andrew McKellar, executive director of the Australian Automobile Association, said motorists “have voted with their feet”.

“Volkswagen paid a price for the way in which they handled the recall issue and the fact that they didn’t come out and deal with that issue... in an open, honest and more transparent way.”

“It’s a reminder to all vehicle builders that they need to be open and honest with their customers.

“If they try to handle these issues with corporate spin the market will judge them very harshly.”

According to official sales figures released today by the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries, the brand sold 1226 fewer cars compared with the same period last year, a 19 per cent drop.

In contrast, the Australian car market as a whole was up by 5.5 per cent.

The figures showed Volkswagen’s Golf and Jetta models were hit the hardest, with drops of more than 50 per cent.

Dr Paul Harrison, senior lecturer in branding and marketing at Deakin university said the drop was “massive”, but did not come as a surprise.

“The issue is about perception,” he said.

“It will take quite a while for people to regain that sense of trust, you can’t just paper over it.”

Volkswagen recalled thousands of its Golf, Jetta, Polo and Passat models amid customer complaints surrounding safety and reliability.

The brand’s Australian arm had resisted calls to fix its cars despite Volkswagen issuing widespread recalls in China, Japan and Singapore.

Consumer complaints were sparked by a Victorian coronial inquest into the death of Melissa Ryan, who died in a collision while driving her Volkswagen on the Monash freeway.

A Volkswagen spokesman said the brand has “noticed a drop in Volkswagen passenger vehicle sales for June” but said commercial vehicles sales were strong.

The Toyota Hilux was the best selling car in June, followed by the Toyota Corolla, Mazda3, Hyundai i30 and Mitsubishi Triton.

Toyota remains on top in the sales race, ahead of Holden, Hyundai, Ford and Mazda.


I wonder how trinis would react if something similar happened here.

You referring to the death of the young lady?

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

This is what happens when manufacturers don't deal with complaints in a positive way initially.
http://m.smh.com.au/drive/motor-news/vo ... 2pbye.html

Volkswagen’s sales have plummeted by almost 20 per cent following its controversial recall of nearly 26,000 cars.

Andrew McKellar, executive director of the Australian Automobile Association, said motorists “have voted with their feet”.

“Volkswagen paid a price for the way in which they handled the recall issue and the fact that they didn’t come out and deal with that issue... in an open, honest and more transparent way.”

“It’s a reminder to all vehicle builders that they need to be open and honest with their customers.

“If they try to handle these issues with corporate spin the market will judge them very harshly.”

According to official sales figures released today by the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries, the brand sold 1226 fewer cars compared with the same period last year, a 19 per cent drop.

In contrast, the Australian car market as a whole was up by 5.5 per cent.

The figures showed Volkswagen’s Golf and Jetta models were hit the hardest, with drops of more than 50 per cent.

Dr Paul Harrison, senior lecturer in branding and marketing at Deakin university said the drop was “massive”, but did not come as a surprise.

“The issue is about perception,” he said.

“It will take quite a while for people to regain that sense of trust, you can’t just paper over it.”

Volkswagen recalled thousands of its Golf, Jetta, Polo and Passat models amid customer complaints surrounding safety and reliability.

The brand’s Australian arm had resisted calls to fix its cars despite Volkswagen issuing widespread recalls in China, Japan and Singapore.

Consumer complaints were sparked by a Victorian coronial inquest into the death of Melissa Ryan, who died in a collision while driving her Volkswagen on the Monash freeway.

A Volkswagen spokesman said the brand has “noticed a drop in Volkswagen passenger vehicle sales for June” but said commercial vehicles sales were strong.

The Toyota Hilux was the best selling car in June, followed by the Toyota Corolla, Mazda3, Hyundai i30 and Mitsubishi Triton.

Toyota remains on top in the sales race, ahead of Holden, Hyundai, Ford and Mazda.


I wonder how trinis would react if something similar happened here.

You referring to the death of the young lady?

Not really. Apparently after the story about the death of the women alot of other VW owners complained that they were being turned away at the dealer for other issues. Mostly related to their DSG trannies (the woman was driving a manual Golf though). The uproar force VW to about face as they were saying no recalls for Australia despite cars with the exact same parts being recalled in Japan, Singapore and Malaysia. So after the backlash and stories now you seeing the end result. People staying away from buying. I think if they had instated the recall sooner there wouldn't be that level of negative feedback from customers.

[2WNBoost]

Here's a question.
Would anyone be comfortable buying a used car with a transmission that makes strange noises and an owner who's telling you:
"Doh study dat, dis car in prime condition. Is ah bess ride yuh buyin"

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

If it was a normal slush box automatic or manual then no. If it was some new fandangled transmission I would do research n get back to the owner.

[neexis]

If it was a normal slush box automatic or manual then no. If it was some new fandangled transmission I would do research n get back to the owner.

[drchaos]

Never dropped down the back seat to get more trunk space. Today had to do it to load a long object and the little knobs weren't working. When i went to the back seat and pulled the seat forward it came down effortlessly. When I tried to lock it back I realized the locking mechanism was not working.

Anyone else have problems with dropping the rear seats?

[cinco]

If it was a normal slush box automatic or manual then no. If it was some new fandangled transmission I would do research n get back to the owner.

New fandangled tranny would scare me more