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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby purple_heart77 » March 14th, 2013, 12:54 pm

I just looked back at the pics you posted Allergic, seems my Yeti got the same head unit, AC set up, spedo/tacho and even the rear AC vents minus the 12V outlet. Slight difference with the seat configuration, my rear seats can come out easily. As Nexxis said all VAG...

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby VW_Exec » March 14th, 2013, 2:51 pm

cdx2k1 wrote:If you want launch control on the 7 speed, Unitronic (and one or two other co's) sell a remap for DQ200 that allows the feature..torque limit on the box is also increased.


something to explore when I look at Stage 1 ECU upgrade.

as for launch control, sorry to disappoint the VW Passat guys, tried it yesterday and it was an EPIC failure! DSG/DQ200 clearly doesn't want you 'dicking' around launching as once you've applied the brake (after ESP turned Off), and get on the acc pedal, it bogs at 1500-1800rpm and goes back to idle speed.... :?

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby neexis » March 14th, 2013, 4:52 pm

VW_Exec wrote:
cdx2k1 wrote:If you want launch control on the 7 speed, Unitronic (and one or two other co's) sell a remap for DQ200 that allows the feature..torque limit on the box is also increased.


something to explore when I look at Stage 1 ECU upgrade.

as for launch control, sorry to disappoint the VW Passat guys, tried it yesterday and it was an EPIC failure! DSG/DQ200 clearly doesn't want you 'dicking' around launching as once you've applied the brake (after ESP turned Off), and get on the acc pedal, it bogs at 1500-1800rpm and goes back to idle speed.... :?


haha really? now i'm curious to try. did you turn auto hold off? will attempt this tonight if some free road is available. if it doesn't work... sport mode is wild enough for me. used it to pull off once and tyres screeched a bit

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby neexis » March 14th, 2013, 5:04 pm

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:With enough money I guess anything is possible but I dunno bout that 500 from a 1.4 twincharger.

Greggle you can get extremely cheap chrome exhausts on Amazon.com

I bought and they fit ok but for the cost I can't complain. They are screwed down but if you get someone to weld them on the fit would be 100% interms of alignment. Will try to find the link for the set I bought. I put them on in May this year and no discoloration yet.

Edit: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CP ... hs_product

Alternatively you could try to get the oem tips. I think these are about 50 to 70 pounds.

Edit: my bad they cost 98 pounds!!!

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did these tips match your exhaust perfectly? i picked up some that were for the passat/cc/etc. thing is, my exhausts have a sharper angle, so its only the uppermost part of the stock exhaust that makes contact. i'll take some pics later and decide if i still want to try them or not.

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby EcoTune Trinidad » March 14th, 2013, 8:33 pm

VW_Exec wrote:
cdx2k1 wrote:If you want launch control on the 7 speed, Unitronic (and one or two other co's) sell a remap for DQ200 that allows the feature..torque limit on the box is also increased.


something to explore when I look at Stage 1 ECU upgrade.

as for launch control, sorry to disappoint the VW Passat guys, tried it yesterday and it was an EPIC failure! DSG/DQ200 clearly doesn't want you 'dicking' around launching as once you've applied the brake (after ESP turned Off), and get on the acc pedal, it bogs at 1500-1800rpm and goes back to idle speed.... :?


My advice..if it didn't come with this feature in the first place, don't program the DSG for launch control unless you look into installing heavy duty clutches which can take the abuse...vehicles equipped with this, have their clutch pack compound made up differently and this feature really heats up the clutches each time you use it....

Don't get me wrong,its a lovely feature...just saying it isn't designed to be in use like a track car for fear of wearing them out prematurely.

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby neexis » March 14th, 2013, 11:07 pm

ok.... i tried it as well. with ESP and autohold off, it wouldnt even cross 1500rpm.... even when floored. it's as if it was just ignoring the attempt at madness.

oh well.. there's always flooring it in sport mode

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby purple_heart77 » March 15th, 2013, 7:48 am

:mrgreen: Ah ha...looking for DSG7 at traffic light :mrgreen:

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby 2WNBoost » March 15th, 2013, 9:48 pm

Hi Tuners,

Does anyone know of a good alignment shop with updated software for the 2011+ Jetta?
Best Auto does not perform alignment as part of their service and it's too inconvenient to drop the car off only to have them take the car to MasterServ to get the work done.

I'll prefer options other than MasterServ.

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 16th, 2013, 12:52 am

Only place that comes to mind is mileage mack. I have to get mine aligned too. Best Auto mentioned I carry it to masterserv though.

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 17th, 2013, 2:22 am

At the end of the day this isn't a technical install but took pics of the job anyway and decided to post instructions for anyone interested...


Replacing DRL halogen bulb


Turn off ignition and remove key from it.

Behind each main headlight halogen bulbs 1, 2 are covers which protect the innards of the headlight assembly from dirt, water and insects.

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The respective covers are shown here on the left headlight assembly (if facing forward inside the car).


To get to DRL bulb cover 1 must be removed.

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Rest of instructions performed on right headlight assembly.

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Cover 1 removed.
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DRL bulb socket is located towards the lower portion of 1 and has a yellow connector attached to it as seen here. To remove it twist socket and pull it out. To be sure you are really dealing with the DRL bulb move the socket with your finger while watching to see if the DRL bulb moves as well.

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DRL halogen bulb should look like this:

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Bulb is removed by pushing downwards first then twisting. See vid.



Add LED DRL to socket then check to see if the LED lights are working. Lock socket back in headlight assembly by twisting it in the opposite direction to which it was removed.

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Replace headlight assembly cover 1

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....PROFIT!

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Installation can be tedious at times due to cramped spaces. Patience is key.

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby neexis » March 17th, 2013, 11:29 am

I'll be looking out for this car again.. the only time I saw it was around independence day I believe, when you had the flags on the rear windows.

Can you do a daytime shot with the DRLs? Where'd you get those bulbs?

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 18th, 2013, 12:12 am

Food for thought. China has ordered VW to recall vehicles fitted with DSG. This is after VW extended warranties in China last year on vehicles fitted with DSG.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-1 ... arbox.html

"China’s quality watchdog told Volkswagen AG (VOW) to recall vehicles fitted with the direct-shift gearbox system, after Europe’s biggest carmaker was targeted in China Central Television’s annual consumer-rights day program.
The General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine issued the order after tracking faults related to the system for the past year, according to a statement on its website on March 16. The previous day, CCTV highlighted the defects as part of a two-hour prime-time show, along with flaws in Apple Inc. (AAPL)’s after-sales service and investigations into a local automaker and substandard cement.

China is stepping up consumer protection, adopting laws this year that gave the watchdog power to order investigations and impose fines should manufacturers and importers fail to recall faulty products in a timely manner. The nation’s legislature approved plans last week to give more power to the food and drug regulator amid growing public discontent over quality and safety.
McDonald’s Corp., the world’s largest restaurant chain, and Carrefour SA, the world’s second-largest retailer, were targeted by CCTV in a program marking World Consumer Rights Day last year. In 2011, the show highlighted Henan Shuanghui Investment & Development Co., a Chinese sausage maker, for buying pigs which were fed an illegal additive.
Premier Li Keqiang, giving his first press conference yesterday after the close of the NPC, pledged to tackle food problems and the environment with an “iron fist.”
Voluntary Recall
In its March 16 statement, the quality watchdog didn’t say how many Volkswagen vehicles would be involved in the recall and calls to its news department seeking comment went unanswered over the weekend.
“Volkswagen will implement a voluntary recall regarding the DSG issue,” Christoph Ludewig, the company’s Beijing-based spokesman, said in an e-mailed statement on March 16. Details will be announced at a later date, he said.
Owners of VW vehicles fitted with the direct-shift gearbox system in China, the company’s biggest market, have reported abnormal vibrations, loss of power and sudden acceleration, according to CCTV’s report.
The Wolfsburg, Germany-based automaker has been aware of issues with the system since last year. In May, it said its Chinese division agreed to extend the warranty for the automatic transmission technology to 10 years in response to customer complaints. The standard warranty is two years.
After-Sales Flaws
By that time, Volkswagen had sold almost 1 million autos in China with the direct-shift gearbox system and only a “few hundred” had faults that prompted driver feedback, according to a Bloomberg News interview with Harthmuth Hoffmann, a company spokesman, on May 31.
In its March 15 program, CCTV investigated alleged flaws in the after-sales service of Cupertino, California-based Apple. The company’s spokeswoman in Beijing, Carolyn Wu, didn’t answer her mobile phone or reply to an e-mail seeking comment.
Apple slipped to sixth place from fourth in China’s smartphone market in the third quarter of 2012. Samsung leads the China smartphone market in share, and four domestic suppliers also now outsell the iPhone in the nation, according to market researcher IDC.
Even so, Apple’s sales in China in its fiscal first quarter climbed 67 percent from a year earlier to $6.83 billion, the company said in January.
The consumer program also reported on impure gold made in a workshop in Shenzhen and sold in shops in Tianjin and Hebei, and on some Chinese medical companies, including one in Henan province, who hired actors to masquerade as doctors to promote products.
CCTV also investigated the use of substandard concrete by some developers in the southern city of Shenzhen who used low- quality sea sand instead of river sand. The Shenzhen Housing and Construction Bureau found 31 concrete-mixing plants violated industry rules, according to a statement posted on its website on March 16."

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby neexis » March 18th, 2013, 7:05 am

Interesting....

I wonder if Trinidad's Consumer laws will ever step up to this level.

Any vibrations, loss of power or sudden acceleration from your DSG?


Only odd thing I notice is that sometimes it seems anxious to shift into D2.... like in traffic if rolling, it will shift from D1 to D2 without even pressing the pedal. These days I find myself switching to manual if I want it to hold out certain gears for a longer period (mostly D1, D2 for slower driving through neighbourhoods etc)

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 18th, 2013, 8:14 am

neexis wrote:Interesting....

I wonder if Trinidad's Consumer laws will ever step up to this level.

Any vibrations, loss of power or sudden acceleration from your DSG?


Only odd thing I notice is that sometimes it seems anxious to shift into D2.... like in traffic if rolling, it will shift from D1 to D2 without even pressing the pedal. These days I find myself switching to manual if I want it to hold out certain gears for a longer period (mostly D1, D2 for slower driving through neighbourhoods etc)


It loves a second gear rolling start. Shift points in D mode different.

No loss of power or sudden acceleration for me. *knocks on wood*

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby neexis » March 18th, 2013, 9:41 pm

you guys checking this "love your volkswagen" event at BA?

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 18th, 2013, 10:27 pm

Whats that? Not the event that went this weekend?

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 19th, 2013, 8:54 pm

I can't go the events unfortunately. Have classes.

Them golfs looking good cdx2k1.

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby neexis » March 19th, 2013, 11:26 pm

i'd like to... but i doubt i finishing work in south before 2pm

props to them though... i don't ever recall a dealer in trinidad doing thing kinda thing

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby purple_heart77 » March 20th, 2013, 8:44 am

Just getting back to the DSG characteristics... In my Yeti I do get that quick change from D1 to D2, but I cannot tell when the gears change...it is really super smooth. I am just up to 600 KM and the performance is great. Clocks 150Km/h in a blink of an eye, have not crossed 3.5K rpm either!

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby drchaos » March 20th, 2013, 9:34 am

Yeah I making a pass at the event ... if there i anything interesting I will fill you guys in.
DSG is smooth for me, sometimes i will hear a light thud tho. Its during manual operation and i down shift when the other clutch has an up gear selected. The dsg is very smooth, but i find its not that good at predicting when i need a downshift or an up shift. Read that the Ford focus dual clutch transmisson is better at predicting the gears you will need but its not as fast or smooth as the DSG.

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby cdx2k1 » March 20th, 2013, 9:58 am

Who going rally?

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 20th, 2013, 10:46 am

For discussion...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21858256


Volkswagen recalls 384,181 vehicles in China

"Volkswagen says it will recall 384,181 vehicles in China to replace a part of their gearboxes, its largest recall in the country to date.

Last week, Chinese state television showed Volkswagen consumers reporting sudden acceleration and loss of power.

The German carmaker said the direct-shift gearboxes could cause a power interruption, but drivers could remain in control and stop.

China is the biggest market for Volkswagen.

The recall, which starts on 2 April, includes the Passat, Bora, Touran and Golf models amongst others, the company confirmed.

Volkswagen currently has two production joint ventures with China's SAIC Motor and FAW Group.

It sold 2.8 million cars in China in 2012, and said it planned to increase production to four million vehicles in the country in the next five years. "


This is after extending warranties in various countries to 5 and 10 years for 7 speed dry clutch DSG.

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby cdx2k1 » March 20th, 2013, 12:24 pm

Hopefully this does not apply to us in Trinidad :/

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » March 20th, 2013, 12:33 pm

Hopefully the extended warranty does.

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby neexis » March 20th, 2013, 4:46 pm

hope might be all we have

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby VW_Exec » March 20th, 2013, 7:21 pm

Allergic2BunnyEars wrote:For discussion...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21858256


Volkswagen recalls 384,181 vehicles in China

"Volkswagen says it will recall 384,181 vehicles in China to replace a part of their gearboxes, its largest recall in the country to date.

Last week, Chinese state television showed Volkswagen consumers reporting sudden acceleration and loss of power.

The German carmaker said the direct-shift gearboxes could cause a power interruption, but drivers could remain in control and stop.

China is the biggest market for Volkswagen.

The recall, which starts on 2 April, includes the Passat, Bora, Touran and Golf models amongst others, the company confirmed.

Volkswagen currently has two production joint ventures with China's SAIC Motor and FAW Group.

It sold 2.8 million cars in China in 2012, and said it planned to increase production to four million vehicles in the country in the next five years. "


This is after extending warranties in various countries to 5 and 10 years for 7 speed dry clutch DSG.



let me just throw up this link as well:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-2 ... aults.html

I was very curious on what year of manufacture was affected, but it appears wide-reaching from 2008 - 2013. Also, the pungent smell bit got me very concerned as you guys seem to have mentioned some 'symptoms'.

I strongly suggest that these articles and information be presented to BA by those who may attend this weekend's event. I was not planning to, but I feel I may indeed drop by to at least ventilate the proposition that, should I experience anything remotely related to these issues, I will be taking up the matter directly with VAG/Germany as I am pretty certain BA will continue to chalk it up to a myriad of other 'normal' causes.

The problem with the whole affair is that we are all hypersensitive and might I say, even paranoid, when we drive our vehicles - listening for rattles, awaiting odd responses, etc. That could never be a relaxed driving experience. One year later, I am still always conscious of the drive-train and sometimes question if something is 'wrong' or 'normal'. I can generally say, there has been nothing (yet) to grip my attention to the point of even noting at servicing, but this cannot be ideal with one year to go on my warranty.

To really allay fears and confidently push sales, BA should proactively liaise with VW, acquire clearance to offer extended warranties and boldly advise customers (existing and potential) that they stand behind the VW brand.

Believe me, local consumers have been burnt before, if they play the reactive role, sales will plummet to zero within 6 months of enough 'wide-spread' complaints and a forced-recall.

NB: You guys should join this FB Group dedicated to this specific issue, if you haven't already.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SOS-CLIE ... 10?fref=ts

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Re: Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

Postby neexis » March 20th, 2013, 11:34 pm

VW_Exec wrote:

let me just throw up this link as well:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-2 ... aults.html

I was very curious on what year of manufacture was affected, but it appears wide-reaching from 2008 - 2013. Also, the pungent smell bit got me very concerned as you guys seem to have mentioned some 'symptoms'.

I strongly suggest that these articles and information be presented to BA by those who may attend this weekend's event. I was not planning to, but I feel I may indeed drop by to at least ventilate the proposition that, should I experience anything remotely related to these issues, I will be taking up the matter directly with VAG/Germany as I am pretty certain BA will continue to chalk it up to a myriad of other 'normal' causes.

The problem with the whole affair is that we are all hypersensitive and might I say, even paranoid, when we drive our vehicles - listening for rattles, awaiting odd responses, etc. That could never be a relaxed driving experience. One year later, I am still always conscious of the drive-train and sometimes question if something is 'wrong' or 'normal'. I can generally say, there has been nothing (yet) to grip my attention to the point of even noting at servicing, but this cannot be ideal with one year to go on my warranty.

To really allay fears and confidently push sales, BA should proactively liaise with VW, acquire clearance to offer extended warranties and boldly advise customers (existing and potential) that they stand behind the VW brand.

Believe me, local consumers have been burnt before, if they play the reactive role, sales will plummet to zero within 6 months of enough 'wide-spread' complaints and a forced-recall.

NB: You guys should join this FB Group dedicated to this specific issue, if you haven't already.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SOS-CLIE ... 10?fref=ts


It'd be great if you can attend and at least represent the more enlightened ones wrt to these issues on this forum.

But you're right about the paranoia thing though... it's always in the back of my mind that something will go wrong, and I usually expect something to go wrong with the transmission first. Not a very comforting thought, but a realistic approach I suppose.

I think within the past year BA's sales have been extremely good for them with a large number of Jettas and Passats being sold. So there are quite a number of DSG7's on the road. It would be interesting to see them change their approach, which so far has been that "these new DSG7's are unaffected".

I'd be happy if they can extend my warranty, but sadly that doesn't seem like it will happen. I'm getting very mixed impressions wrt how proactive certain senior members of staff inside there will be. The close minded approach and swift dismissal of my claim of bird damage to my car is just an example. In this case, numbers will be important.

I suppose their failure to address the issue will affect brand confidence and definitely hurt any prospective sales.



On another note...the smell is not much of an issue again. I suspect it may have been from after gym when some sweat made contact with the leather. I started throwing on a jacket afterward and its much less of an issue now.

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