Pros and Cons of new 1.4 tsi Jetta

[purple_heart77]

I have been following this thread and really interested in knowing what the issue is with this 7 speed DSG box. Looking on the internet some of the remedy would be replacing either the clutch pack or the mechatronic unit. Don't know what will be told by the dealership here, waiting on someones experience.

[neexis]

I have been following this thread and really interested in knowing what the issue is with this 7 speed DSG box. Looking on the internet some of the remedy would be replacing either the clutch pack or the mechatronic unit. Don't know what will be told by the dealership here, waiting on someones experience.

The older DSG7's on the MK5 jetta were more prone to failure.. usually due to the mechatronic unit.

In the event of failure, the dealer will replace it under warranty ( and in some cases within a reasonable time out of warranty).
Today I asked about the performance of the DSG7 on vehicles sold within the last year and only one seemed to be faulty and was replaced.

The other issue described by a few seems to be the shudder in second gear, in which case it was recommended that the engine not be petted and manual shifting be used for the lower gears till the problem settles.

Other than that.... the transmission drives beautifully. D1 to D2 can be slightly jerky(possibly because I'm just getting used to it), but beyond that it's smooooooth.

[purple_heart77]

Thanks for that Neexis.
Also good to know of the DSG7 characteristics.
The internet was just full of complaints, made me a bit concerned. I know there are mechanical and can fail any time. Just hoping it can stand up to our road conditions, temperature (not really sure if this matters) and traffic.

[neexis]

purple heart, you driving a DSG7 equipped vehicle too?

I was also concerned about its performance, but I've been following this thread and one other viewtopic.php?f=38&t=423021 for first hand driver experiences. The OP in the linked thread has his for almost a yr with no real issues

[purple_heart77]

Yea, got one of those new Skoda Yeti 1.8TSI. I am out of the country atm and home tells me it came with a DSG (it is written on the gear lever) transmission. I bought the vehicle last year and it was recently delivered and as far as I know only the 1.2 TSI and variant of the diesel came with a DSG box.
So when I saw the issues here obviously I was concerned. I just hope it works well that is all.

[EcoTune Trinidad]

Purple heart I think the 1.8tsi yeti came with one also...wasn't aware we got the 1.2tsi tho...tell me how it pulls:)

[purple_heart77]

The 1.2 TSI or the diesel models are currently not available in Trinidad, I just read about it online.
Once I am back, I'll update on my experience. So far I am told no lack of power or speed, coming from someone who drives a 1.8TSI Passat

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Dsg is here to stay it seems...spreading across more production lines and extended warranties being given in other regions.

[drchaos]

Hey Allergic, Thanks for putting up this post... really helped me to take the plunge and buy the Jetta.

Got a Platinum grey, got it last week.

One question, saw from your pictures that you had the rubber monster mats with the clips. Where did you get them from? Saw them online for left hand drive cars and was not sure if they would fit.


Thanx alot man

peace out

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Congrats drchaos. Post some pics when you get a chance nah. I hardly see pics of the platinum grey locally.

Monster mats unfortunately are only made for lhd vehicles. I learned this te hard way. The rear monster mats will fit but the fronts won't because the clip layout and pedal layout for front passenger and driver area are different to what is in rhd vehicles. I ended up using the driver side monster mat on my passenger side and the the front passenger side monster mat remains unused.

Also do not buy euro style mats for lhd vehicles as you will encounter the same problem.

So I have 3 monster mats and one stock driver carpet mat in mine.

The real problem I have is this: Best auto does not sell rhd rubber mats. According to VW Germany this is Best Auto's choice.

If you want rhd rubber mats with clip support you need to order from a market that is rhd. England, Australia come to mind but the costs to buy and ship are high. I don't know anyone in Jamaica or Barbados who can check either so for now I put that mini project on the back burner.

Does your armrest slide backward and forward?

[nemesis]

So ah see VW said they dropping this engine from next year. Going to make a turbo only version because the Scharger too expensive for them to include. Hard to imagine any turbo that can spool well with just 1.4L, but it is possible.

[neexis]

nemesis... you have a source for that news? I seeing articles as old as 2011 saying it was to be discontinued since that year.


Allergic.... BA should give you some commission. Apparently drchaos is the second man you help invest in a VW

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Nemesis right. I in a fete right now so can't provide a link. 1.4 twincharger not in new golf 7. Single turbo. 0-60 in 8.4 seconds despite no supercharger. Chassis is much lighter. Top end speed is lower though due to lowered hp.

[neexis]

lol... you know men hardcore when they in a fete at 1:46am and still posting on tuner

ok found it
1.4 tsi: 1395cc 16v turbocharged 4-cyl, 138bhp @ 4500-6000rpm, 185lb ft @ 1500-3500rpm
lost some horses.... vs current torqure(177 lb.ft) @ 1500-4500 rpm

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Yep. Beloved twincharger will probably be phased out in model refreshes. Not a bad run I guess. Most engines stick around for 8 to 10 years before being replaced. 2013 will make it 8 years.

[drchaos]

Yeah man,

armrest is leather and slides, and the climate control setup is new. BA also told me the headlights supposed to turn into the turns also.

Thanx for the info on the mats, will probably have to buy some normal rubber mats and cut the driver side to fit.

Will post some pictures within a few days.

We might be getting the TDI engines within the next 2 years or so. Talked to someone in Petrotrin, he saying they trying to get ultra low sulphur diesel in the local market in about that time. Plus a friend who works in BA said they willing to bring them in as soon as they see better diesel. So we will have more options in the future than just the new tsi engines.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Chances are the fog lights supposed to turn on when you turn the wheel. I've never come across info on Jetta headlights being able to turn. I've seen the option in VCDS to turn on the feature of fog lights turning on when the wheel is turned.

Did you order off the lot or had it made for you? Armrest is leather with a cloth interior? I heard a few Jettas were coming with all leather interiors. Didn't get to see any though. I wanna see ones with LED tails and xenon headlights

[drchaos]

Interior is black cloth but the armrest in the middle and on the doors are leather. But have not seen any full leather interiors.

I wonder if you can get a Xenon and LED daytime running lights kit for the front? Would look sweet.

Got a car they had in bond, I am a traveling officer so i get a small amount of VAT of the car. Arrived in the country on the 29th dec and delivered on the 31st Jan. Couldn't wait for a special order, my 1998 Honda CRV oil pump died and engine got damaged so needed a new car as soon as possible.

Will check out the headlights in detail when i get a chance and let you guys know what it really does.

[neexis]

Congrats drchaos! I wonder if I saw your ride.. I took my delivery the day before yours.

Is it fog lamp that switches on when the steering is turned? Check and see
The passat has a cornering light in addition to the fogs.... the angle on it usually illuminates to the side in which the steering is turned.

Still no sign of the leather interior Jetta.. and I've checked every time I went in... Still love that Jetta tho...

BA seems to be doing quite well though... Jettas and Tiguans on the road like wow!!

[neexis]

We might be getting the TDI engines within the next 2 years or so. Talked to someone in Petrotrin, he saying they trying to get ultra low sulphur diesel in the local market in about that time. Plus a friend who works in BA said they willing to bring them in as soon as they see better diesel. So we will have more options in the future than just the new tsi engines.

There was a 2.0 TDI 140HP Passat. Was considering it... but the $ saved on diesel still wasn't making up the $30K difference. The rep also mentioned that some additive would have to be used every other fillup.... so I wasn't too keen on that.

I'm wondering whats the difference... there are turbo diesel engines on the Touareg, Tiguan, Q7 and Cayenne that seem to run fine on our local fuel.

[drchaos]

Ok so the lights do not turn into the turns. What happens is when you turn the steering wheel left, the left fogs turn on and vice versa. Cheaper solution with some practicality.

Hmmm... seems my right sided back number plate light is out. Will have to take it back to BA for them to check and replace.

Heard that most cars can take the High sulphur diesel but the fuel filter may need changing a year or two down the line. Which can be costly.

Yeah talked to sales guy, he said they sold 22 Jetta's last month aiming for 30 this month. I guess with corolla's being so expensive and boring to drive, Honda's civic's being priced outside of their market range , Cruze and Focus being american cars and elantra's and cerato's having a 110+ day waiting list VW is gonna start doing really well.

[neexis]

22 Jettas in one month!! Well the car is solid though... and really, after you've experienced what a good Euro has to offer, I really don't see the appeal of the 6+ year old corolla, ugly new civic or anything nissan.

[nemesis]

Ok so the lights do not turn into the turns. What happens is when you turn the steering wheel left, the left fogs turn on and vice versa. Cheaper solution with some practicality.

Hmmm... seems my right sided back number plate light is out. Will have to take it back to BA for them to check and replace.

Heard that most cars can take the High sulphur diesel but the fuel filter may need changing a year or two down the line. Which can be costly.

Yeah talked to sales guy, he said they sold 22 Jetta's last month aiming for 30 this month. I guess with corolla's being so expensive and boring to drive, Honda's civic's being priced outside of their market range , Cruze and Focus being american cars and elantra's and cerato's having a 110+ day waiting list VW is gonna start doing really well.

They should just start bringing the diesel cars. They bring the diesel SUV's...actually all dealers, both Jap and Euro do. And BMW now brings the diesel 320i and it works fine. Not sure wda is VW problem since they would undoubtedly be the most affordable of the euros.

And that fog light turning on at turns thing is very old. First car I saw that on was like a 20yr old Maxima. Still useful though.

[neexis]

Allergic... did you sort out that bad smell from the AC?

Im starting to get this kinda odor in my cabin as well... smells almost like fresh raw meat (not sure how else to describe it). Sometimes it's there when the car's opened after being parked overnight... sometimes with the AC. Trying to see if there's anything in the car causing it

[S_2NR]

That is mold ^^

[syncrod]

just found this
http://www.newsouthperformance.com/Mk5dashpod.htm
looks interesting

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Allergic... did you sort out that bad smell from the AC?

Im starting to get this kinda odor in my cabin as well... smells almost like fresh raw meat (not sure how else to describe it). Sometimes it's there when the car's opened after being parked overnight... sometimes with the AC. Trying to see if there's anything in the car causing it

Haven't gotten it sorted just yet. I'm surprised you are getting scents so soon. When I carried by car to service at BA they could t reproduce the problem as it is intermittent. Will try again end of this month at BA. If not I will replace my pollen filter myself.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

That is mold ^^

I believe it is this as well. Will keep thread updated if I find anything

[neexis]

Haven't gotten it sorted just yet. I'm surprised you are getting scents so soon. When I carried by car to service at BA they could t reproduce the problem as it is intermittent. Will try again end of this month at BA. If not I will replace my pollen filter myself.

You and me both. Granted it disappears after a while, but I finding it getting more noticeable when I get into the car. Normally it smells like the leather... unless the smell is coming from the leather.
I think the cabin filter is located under the glove compartment in my car.. will check it and see.

Still 600km to go before first service so I'll mention it to them as well.

Are you getting a moldy smell from yours? Or is it similar to that slightly sweet, fresh meat kinda odor?

[cqk4]

just found this
http://www.newsouthperformance.com/Mk5dashpod.htm
looks interesting

Real off topic but lol.. Wanting to install a boost gauge and saw this as well but don't want to get rid of that center pocket its great!. They also have vent pods.. Will post what I did wrt it.

On topic..
Got moldy smells as well, have tried ALOT of lysol in the vents outside the car but the smell comes back after a few weeks. Also they recommend that after using the AC turn it off to let moisture dry out of the system. I think I am going to order a cabin filter from amazon and change it myself soon.