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help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 8:42 pm
by devsingh
suzuki jimny
2000 - year of manufacture
120Y 1500 engine and transmission
experiencing overheating when driving ( over 30km/hr) in hot sun

changed :
head gasket
radiator
shroud
fan ( new electric runs direct with relay on ignition)
removed thermostat ( couldn't find a replacement)
replace sensor
installed external gauge and sensor

no bubbles in radiator
changed oil
coolant
no leaks and not loosing water

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 13th, 2013, 10:10 pm
by Big Z
water pump

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 14th, 2013, 9:16 am
by devsingh
no water lost and when you remove the radiator cap, you actually see the water flowing , not sure if the flow ie enough or how to test

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 14th, 2013, 9:59 am
by timos976
I am getting a thermal camera soon... Will u allow me to scan the engine for hot spots? Maybe it can help ...

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 14th, 2013, 10:38 am
by Big Z
Start vehicle.
Fast idle the vehicle to about 2500 rpm.
See if both radiator lines get hot. If only the top line is hot, there is a blockage in the system.
Given the age of the engine, the water pump may be worn and no longer as efficient as it once was.

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 14th, 2013, 11:12 am
by devsingh
timos976 sure you can contact me
355 5865

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 14th, 2013, 11:28 am
by timos976
i will call u when it arrive.... but while u wait i recommend BIg z advice...

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 17th, 2013, 12:37 pm
by devsingh
replaced water pump, little help but same problem.

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 17th, 2013, 12:38 pm
by devsingh
would a 3 core radiator help ?

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 17th, 2013, 1:20 pm
by timos976
i hadda get that camera fast

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 17th, 2013, 3:24 pm
by Big Z
Your problem seems blockage related as almost everything looks like its been changed.
Possibly a failing cat converter, if still on the vehicle.

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 17th, 2013, 6:08 pm
by devsingh
cat taken out by previus owner , even had the exhaust inspected for restrictions of damaged muffler, everything good. i replaced the new aluminium radiator with my two core copper and brass , going for a test run again

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 17th, 2013, 7:09 pm
by devsingh
can faulty of leaking spark plug wires, interfere with the temperature gauge ?
i'll test tomorrow with new wires. I believe its some screwed up electrical problem but not sure

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 18th, 2013, 3:20 pm
by gt4tified
Its unlikely that both your dash gauge AND an external gauge would go bonkers at the same time, especially if the external gauge is wired independently to its own sensor.

Have you noticed whether the coolant is cycling between the radiator and the overflow bottle? Did you try running the vehicle with the system not pressurized (rad cap half way open) and see if the problem persisted?

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 18th, 2013, 10:19 pm
by devsingh
coolant bottle level remains constant, i never let the gauge go above 75%
will try to leave the cap half way open ( not sure what is supposed to happen though)
remember the car only overheats actually running over 4000 rpm

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 19th, 2013, 12:01 pm
by gt4tified
Your coolant bottle level is not supposed to remain constant per say. When the engine is hot the level should fall a bit and as the engine is switched off and cooling, it should fill back to the "full" level.

Also, what do you mean by you never let the gauge go above 75%? What does 75% equate to in degrees (C/F)? Didn't you say that you installed an aftermarket gauge?

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 19th, 2013, 12:36 pm
by devsingh
i installed a sensor/gauge combo on the top of the radiator close to the top hose. today the temperature went to 220 F so i switched off ac and allowed it to cool

just another thought , the electric fan for the radiator is about one inch from the engine pulleys, would that any contribution to the heating problem ?

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 19th, 2013, 12:48 pm
by gt4tified
How is your fan configured, as a pusher or puller? If its mounted on the inside of the radiator, i.e. between the rad and the engine it should be a puller.

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 19th, 2013, 12:56 pm
by devsingh
posting pics shortly

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 19th, 2013, 1:02 pm
by devsingh
ac fan pulls
radiator fan pulls

Image

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 19th, 2013, 1:12 pm
by devsingh
the temperature rises but also drops quickly...

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 19th, 2013, 5:20 pm
by gt4tified
Are you absolutely sure you burped the system properly? Just asking eh. Where you located?

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 20th, 2013, 12:11 pm
by devsingh
arouca, what you mean burp system ?
feel free to gimme a call 355 5865

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 23rd, 2013, 2:08 pm
by gabriel_tintman
what i believe gti's talking about is getting air out the cooling system by running it for about 15min without the cap on..

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 23rd, 2013, 2:29 pm
by devsingh
ohh did that, still no change, i'm going to try having the distributor cap looked at

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 25th, 2013, 9:33 pm
by DatManiac
You using the original 1500 carb? Cuz i had a problem with runnin the 1200 carb on my 1500 and it was apparently runnin lean causin my temp to go up with the a.c. on. If not clean your jets in your carb. Also make sure ignition timing is good too.

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 26th, 2013, 5:01 pm
by devsingh
original 1500 carb, but i had the distributor retarded a bit, just incase the ignition timing was off; going for a test run now

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 27th, 2013, 12:34 am
by gabriel_tintman
my father explained to me that timing is everything so if your timing is off or distributer is too retarded or if its too advanced you'll get that overheat problem, you gotta get it just right..

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 28th, 2013, 3:01 pm
by devsingh
timing checked out to be good, problem still there but not temperature rising not as quickly, going to try changing the distributor to an electronic

Re: help overheating 2000 jimny

Posted: April 28th, 2013, 5:06 pm
by Big Z
Just thought of this.. exhaust restriction.. is there a catalytic converter installed?
A plugged exhaust causes overheating as well.
An easy test would be using a vacuum gauge to check the engine vacuum at a constant medium rpm.
Low vacuum = exhaust restriction.