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damieG82 wrote:
Knight1, those 'impressions' you speak of should be lied to rest 6 feet under. Korean cars are on par with Japanese, if not superior, becuz you get more car for your money. The new Cerato would be my choice over many of its rivals... so much so that the SX4 is way down on the list. My top 3 local 1.6 cars are the Cerato, Focus and Octavia.... M3, Bravo and Civic trailing closely behind
chris1388 wrote:all the licks men givin suzuki here....i still wudnt trade my ignis sport for any oda car.....it does take licks and never breaks down or complains....i have nothing to complain about
chris1388 wrote:all the licks men givin suzuki here....i still wudnt trade my ignis sport for any oda car.....it does take licks and never breaks down or complains....i have nothing to complain about
You sound as if it's being directed personally.....brand loyalty FTL.Nigson wrote:Damien, but I mean all those 3 cars on your list has no value after 3 year bro......
cerato sells dog cheap after a year
focus is real headache.......
and a used Skoda sells cheaper than an accent.......
I cant understand your point when it comes to those undesirable cars with extreme low resale value....
damieG82 wrote:Take the US SX4 has a 2 litre engine.... which isnt even an option here.
Knight 1 --- what do you think about the Liana Hatch?
acesinghit wrote:yep knight is correct when he says brand loyalty FTL...
No one is bashing Suzuki as a brand because I have personal experiences with the SX4, GV and Swift Sport and I can vouch for them being basic reliable Japanese transportation.
We have to understand our local market is a mere drop in the bucket wrt sales and therefore a few shipments that make it across to T&T whether they come or not makes hardly a difference based on the international scale. If we look at the brochures carefully, the websites, owner's manuals and R&D they basically design vehicles specifically for developed markets in North America, Europe, some Middle Eastern countries and some Asian Tigers.
The SX4 in particular was designed to compete against the likes of the Corolla, Civic, Lancer, Elantra, 3, Cerato, Focus, Jetta, Octavia to name a few. Imagine this same SX4 is outclassed by all of the above. For this tiny market of ours it is our right to look at local resale value and Suzuki isn't exceptional neither but if you were studying the rate at which the 2 major South Korean brands have been improving in resale (go to kbb.com) then we won't be finding "fault" in the likes of any Hyundai or Kia.
I believe the company who deserves my hard-earned money is the one who has been re-writing the chapter in vehicle design and development together with quality, equipment and price. The in-roads Hyundai and Kia have been making surely tells you that they are not just sitting down on their lofty chairs and getting comfortable too fast. The kaizen concept lures them to this day. Like any new car, its value depreciates the fastest within its first few years of ownership. In light of such, I would rather close my eyes and purchase a Kia Cerato/Hyundai Elantra over the over-priced SX4 and a Tucson over the Grand Vitara anyday.
The Grand Vitara is the last of a dying breed since the world is moving away slowly from the ladder frame concept and rear differential lock/low gearing transfer case type SUV in favour of more sophisticated AWD systems mounted to unibody platforms. I mean the Subaru Forester won Motor Trend SUV of the Year 2009 and the Subaru Outback won the same award in 2010. The Mazda CX-9 won the same award but in 2008. These 3 winners are also no strangers to the same award awarded by Car and Driver. If AWD was such a failure then the hard-core offroaders wouldn't have chosen these 3 for such prestigious awards. This is essential for weight saving, improved aerodynamics and better crash safety to name a few. Unless Suzuki wants to keep a niche and with that name and current marketing its going to crash that company in the western world, I would not be surprised if the next Grand Vitara would be based on the common crossover platform. Bragging rights? Only those who are weak in justifcation use that for the basis of an argument. Case in point, the new Kia Sorento is now based on the Hyundai Santa Fe and feature AWD.
Lastly, I am sure I am not the only one who have given faith on the South Koreans as it shows for as of today, both Hyundai and Kia are enjoying robust sales around the world and locally. Suzuki had more than 100 years to get it right and here it is the "johnny come lately" brands are doing better. No wonder the humble South Korean automaker is the most profitable car-maker in the world and they are the world's 4th largest. They operate the most sophisticated plant and their painting technology rivals that and surpasses that currently used to paint the flag-ship Mercedes Benz CLS-Class. From the Genesis V8 sedan to the V6 RWD coupe I think Interbrand was right by putting Hyundai ahead of most other car-makers.
Long live Suzuki and then some.
Knight1 wrote:Knight 1 --- what do you think about the Liana Hatch?
Nice engine...that's about it. Nothing impressive about the interior....cheap materials and feel IMO.
It deserved more credit, but given pricing when it came out, and the fact that the car wasn't "perceived" as highly then, led to it's poor sales IMO. Public perception of that car will kill it's resale value, even if it's a solid car.
The Swift has had MUCH better response, and rightly so. The car is a well built machine....and has an ok fit and finish inside even in the base model....so fundamentally that car should hold value a better, given more "public" acceptance..
Nigson wrote:Knight1 wrote:Knight 1 --- what do you think about the Liana Hatch?
Nice engine...that's about it. Nothing impressive about the interior....cheap materials and feel IMO.
It deserved more credit, but given pricing when it came out, and the fact that the car wasn't "perceived" as highly then, led to it's poor sales IMO. Public perception of that car will kill it's resale value, even if it's a solid car.
The Swift has had MUCH better response, and rightly so. The car is a well built machine....and has an ok fit and finish inside even in the base model....so fundamentally that car should hold value a better, given more "public" acceptance..
Nah Bro you lose me dey......The interior is nicer than the swifts interior by far......and this car did not have poor sales...in fact
ppl still seek out the liana hatch.......The swift is way to small than the liana.....
acesinghit wrote:So what Suzuki had to do was refresh the Liana because heck that dash with the slit for a digital speedo looked like something Atari would have made.
chris1388 wrote:i en gonna give u back no talk cuz lol
Nigson wrote:i dont think its that bad either mimi.....tuners are hard to please as we all know
you should drive my 10 yr old Civic, I love when some proud SSS owners trying hard even while I short shift they just can't keep up. They run out of steam too quick but I guess compared to the current market offerings its fast. 
chris1388 wrote:^^more than likely that ten year old civic is not stock as is any "fass" civic lol and i'm sure thats a straight line you speaking about.......let a manual swift sport with a capable driver catch you round some twisties na.....i'm positive the story will change
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