WTK Madza 3 is taking long to start

[sasgaralli1]

any suggestions? thanks

[Big Z]

Check and or replace battery

[Groovemaster]

Yeah dude get your battery checked.........My 323 started to take a little longer to start & today real dead tumble & no start!

[snight01]

Spark... Plugs.

Please change your spark plugs if ur getting a dribbling long start. But check your battery and whatever but i doubt it cause i been there....

Been there, done that...

[sasgaralli1]

battery checked and spark plugs change

[Groovemaster]

Starting better?

[Strugglerzinc]

The OP is a wealth of information.

What does "taking long to start" mean?

Slow turn over? Tumble and no start?

You checked the battery, was it good? bad?

You changed the plugs, did that help any?

Based on the info given, i'm surprised no one suggested he change his tyres..

[sasgaralli1]

in the morning the car sounds like it wants to shut off then it starts sometimes when the engine revs up. somtimes i have to start it twice. battery good spark plugs changed but still i have the same problem no change. y u suprised no one suggested that i changed thetyres??

[snight01]

Had that same problem, i used ngk iridium spark plug. Ferderal in San fernando installed it.

[RubenN]

Partner,
Did you check the timing on the car, sometimes u can get a dead start or preignition
also it would not help to check your injectors or fuel pump..
not all the time the problem could be electrical

[dredman1]

in the morning the car sounds like it wants to shut off then it starts sometimes when the engine revs up. somtimes i have to start it twice.

Could you be more specific?
Is it that it takes long to actually start (meaning you turn the key and the engine keeps cranking over but it takes long to "catch"), or is it that it cranks and starts normally but idles rough for a while after it starts?

[sasgaralli1]

the first part ,it takes long to actually start (meaning you turn the key and the engine keeps cranking over but it takes long to "catch"),

[dredman1]

If it's cranking over normally, battery is probably not the cause.

After a lot of cranking, do you smell fuel? If so, the engine is getting fuel, next to check would be spark then air.

My guess would be the ignition (spark plugs, plug wires). Although the plugs may be new or look good when inspected, are you sure you have the correct heat range plug? Check the plug type and make sure it corresponds to what the manual recommends. Post the number on the plug here if you're not sure.

Also, make sure your air filter is clean.

[sasgaralli1]

the spark plug is ngk spark plug number 6 irdium

[Strugglerzinc]

The plug number would be printed on the side of the plug.

Eg i use ZFR5FIX-11

[originalbling]

Having somewhat of a similar problem, just havent been able to get it checked out as yet.

only happens on morning or when the engine is very cold.

Was doing some reading and came across a TSB

DESCRIPTION
Some vehicles may exhibit a concern of unstable idling or, in some rare cases, stalling, just after the vehicle
stops with no DTCs detected. The problem is due to the accumulation of carbon deposits inside the throttle body causing air flow to decrease.

http://parts.arlingtonmazda.com/documen ... 9-2069.pdf


Dont know if it might be related. I guess it wouldnt hurt to service throttle body then work from there if it still happens.

[ddog]

Before changing parts try checking your battery cables to and from the starter and its respective ground. Cables might be slack, corroded or just in bad shape causing the voltage to drop.
The best approach would be to check the voltage on the positive cable from the battery to the starter while starting(should be around 11 to 12 volts on crank). And also check the ground return on the starter(should be 0 volts).

You said the engine cranks over a while before it starts, is it a clean healthy tumble or a kind of half dead tumble?

[sasgaralli1]

even though i got the battery checked, i change it and now everythinh working. thanks everyone