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question for rx8 or rx7 owners

Postby Jon_One » September 3rd, 2009, 3:19 pm

how much cc is your engine registered as?? i am considering importing one but some places i see it is a 1300cc and other places 2600cc.. i understand the whole thing about at one cycle it displaces 1300ccs and at the second cycle it displaces a combined cc of 2600cc .. all i want to know is what is it registered as wrt engine size tax and wat not

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Postby chunks_21 » September 3rd, 2009, 6:19 pm

it should be a 13oo cc cos the first gen and sec gen are 13oo cc

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Postby Jon_One » September 3rd, 2009, 6:38 pm

thanks

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Postby evodude1 » September 4th, 2009, 8:55 am

3rd gen is 1300 cc i tink the rate is 16.75 per cc or sumting like da

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Postby 'Teen » September 26th, 2009, 10:58 pm

Rotary engines displace 1200CC (12A), and 1300cc (13B)! No matter what u read otherwise...those are the spec numbers

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Postby gready123456 » September 27th, 2009, 9:22 am

2600cc = 26b 4 rota lol jk man but that would be cool if u get one of those < very expensive though

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Postby turbonator » October 1st, 2009, 12:46 am

gready123456 wrote:2600cc = 26b 4 rota lol jk man but that would be cool if u get one of those < very expensive though


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Re: question for rx8 or rx7 owners

Postby spiderakarex » December 5th, 2010, 7:08 pm

you pay no engine tax on this car you pay no tax as the car is under 1500cc

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Re: question for rx8 or rx7 owners

Postby Roachmaster » December 6th, 2010, 12:52 pm

Only the KANTS in TTASA does class the 13b engine as over 2000cc!!!

What a bunch of RETARDS!!!

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Re: question for rx8 or rx7 owners

Postby roadracer7 » August 24th, 2013, 3:11 pm

http://www.drivingsports.com/site/2008/ ... uivalency/
1 version

In a rotary engine, displacement is a bit trickier. Each rotor has three faces, or working chambers, and there are two rotors in a 13B engine. All six chambers have a displacement of 0.654 liters, but it takes three revolutions of the output shaft to bring all those chambers through a full cycle. Were it to be rated by the same method as a piston engine (chamber displacement times number of chambers), it would be called a 3.9 liter, which is hardly logical. The accepted approach is to treat each rotor housing as a cylinder and measure the displacement of one chamber per rotation. Interestingly, this happens to be precisely equal to capacity. In other words, on every revolution of the output shaft, the rotary engine moves a volume equal to its rated total displacement.

the real version

http://www.rotarywiki.com/index.php?tit ... splacement

Here's a little info on how to properly figure out displacement on a rotary engine. Everyone argues that it is really a 1.3 liter while others argue that it is really a 2.6 liter engine. They are both wrong! If we look at how a piston engines volume is calculated we arrive at a displacement based on total swept volume of every piston added together. It is not based on rpm. On a rotary, displacement is figured using one rotor face in one complete revolution then multiplied by 2. This only leaves the total for 2 combustion chambers though and the rotary has 6! Since the volume of a 13b rotary is rated at 1.3 liters (only 2 combustion chambers) it really adds up to 3.9 liters!!! I can hear it now, "...but we only have 2 rotors!" So what! Like I said it makes no difference if there are 2 rotors with 6 faces or 6 rotors with one face each. the total is always 6 and the base numbers are only based on 2 chambers. The rotary merely does 3 times the work in a package 1/3 the size. It's just a 3.9 liter engine crammed into a 1.3 liter body. Just so none of you start a fight over this, I will explain this later so don't chastise me yet!!!

In case anyone is curious I did some math to determine what the 13B rotary would be sized at if it were a piston engine. The results are pretty neat. First of all the rotary would be a 3.9 liter, 6 cylinder engine. It would be a 6 stroke. Each cylinder would be 6.54" across (damn big piston!) but the stroke length would only be 1.18" in length peak to peak. Not much there. Interesting isn't it. Now just imagine a way to make all this work with only 2 intake runners!

In all fairness to the terms I have used, the word "stroke" can be interchanged with the word "cycle" since both technically have the same definition. The terms "periods", "quarters", or "phases" can also be used correctly. I merely wrote it the way I did to get a certain mental picture going.

I have already dealt with why the rotary engine is really a 6 stroke engine and why displacement is really 3.9 liters and not 1.3 liters. Now I need to explain why the rotary engine doesn't have the torque or horsepower of a good 3.9 liter engine or why it doesn't get the gas mileage of a 1.3 liter engine. The world has always wondered so here's why.

Remember that I stated that the true displacement of the rotary engine, if figured out according to the way piston engine volumes are calculated, is according to the total number of rotor faces and not the number of rotors, nor does it have anything to do with rpm. This added up to 3.9 liters for a 2 rotor 13B engine and not the published spec of 1.3 liters. They just crammed all 3.9 liters into a 1.3 liter body. If the engine is really a 3.9 liter engine then why doesn't it have the low end torque of a 3.9 liter engine? This has a very simple answer. Lack of leverage. OK, what the hell does that mean?



1.3litres yes
2.6litres yes
3.9litres yes

it took a long time coming

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Re: question for rx8 or rx7 owners

Postby stunt_rides » September 5th, 2013, 11:26 pm

I can answer your Q but you need to be more specific about where yur importing it from ie. country! It makes a difference.
" you pay no engine tax on this car you pay no tax as the car is under 1500cc", spiderakarex I dont know where u got this info from but that's wrong , you still gota pay up !

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