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MISHI's Blog: Keep your cool!!!

Postby MISHI » December 1st, 2011, 10:27 pm

AHAAAAA!!!!!! IT HAS BEEN A WHILE!!!!!!

- Seriously like what; 2 - 3 years? I mean I'm going senile with every day that passes: I try opening the house with the car keys... I get angry because the keyboard and mouse won't work on my PC... only to realise that I was working on the laptop next to it... er....

- um...

- that... thing I was about to say but now I can't remember... (where are my pills?)

Anywaaaay, moving along... -er... OH yes the blog:

Well as many of you my have known I FINALLY got the EVO's service and repairs done recently... and because I did NOT know what I would need for the timing belt service to replace... I bought them all; All the belts, the water pump, the seals, pullies... whatever else my brain is failing to remember right now, etc etc etc.

The thing is this is a 10 year old car; and on top of that a USED car which was purchased. I mentioned one time that you never know what you get when buying a used car... no I didn't mention it here... (oh wait I'll have to use the search button and get back to that for proof). So down comes most of the components to get the thing serviced and one day while I was doing whatever it is I still can't remember I was doing at home, the mechanic called me and said that to be frank (and no that wasn't his name) he didn't see the need to have all the parts changed such as the seals etc as none were leaking; he also said that the water pump looked fine... which is where I stopped him.

- See it's better to not be sure and have ALL your parts you think you should replace, rather than just the basic things then you realised you needed more. So I told him to change the water pump regardless... and what did I see?

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I MEAN LOOK AT IT!!!!

If you wanted your child to know what candy without brushing does to your teeth, show them a used water pump; it'll scare them into pearly whites everytime... I mean could you imagine if that were your teeth all pitted and chipped and smiled at Lady Gaga walking by, you might actually scare her into being un-crazy...

She "might" even become a nun and pray for you...

(twiddles fingers trying to remember what to say)

-Right.

Well then, this as you may see is as a result of some things: One being that your coolant was the wrong quality grade, or two... which is actually the more common, NOT changing your coolant on time. Or even three; the fact that people use water in their cooling system.

-I'd say four, but I can't remember... senile kicked in yo.

Now your cooling system constantly goes through heat and cold cycles everytime you run your car... and true to form, over time that can do not so good things to it. If you use water... especially the basic tap water, you will find that over time, it will begin to rust. This is due to many chemical reactions that I am not smart enough to explain... but you could term it similar to lung cancer for example; smoke over time is BAD. This holds true for water. In a short time, the cycles will continue to eat away at metal components and will start flowing through the system and it just becomes liquid sandpaper going through your cylinder block, your radiator and eventually, your wallet if you choose to leave it.

Now I could simply be short and say "use coolant" but that would be as stupid as saying... oh I don't know - "Don't have unprotected sex, use a plastic bag..." Eventually the bag will burst and there will be a lot more than just a sore mid section 9 months down the line...

No, Coolants come in all shapes and sizes and more importantly, specifications and instructions. If you are unsure about what you need, you should ask your car dealer or for the very least, the internet...

- Perhaps I had that the wrong way around...

Most ( and I do mean MOST) coolants carry a rust inhibitor thing... again this is something I am not smart enough to explain how it works, but think of it using flouride to save your teeth (and Lady Gaga's insanity) from utter destruction. So it basically coats the inner tract of the pipelines and channels sort of the way Pepto Bismol coats your stomach when you're having one of those moments...

- But the thing is, no two flouride is the same... some are made in places called "labs" and others are made in "china" - Simply meaning that you can use coolant and in a few weeks it becomes nothing more than colored water. If you want good coolant, read the specs on the bottle and see what ratings they carry. Many cars use a 30% to 60% mix whether prediluted or if you have to do so yourself; Under 30% you basically are going to have less rust inhibitors... sort of like if you drink too much in front of your mother... And over 60% basically it's not going to cool your car properly... sort of like if you drink in the middle of a cloudless day in the desert...

- Either way I doubt it won't fare well for you.

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So, use a proper coolant for your car... a good concentrate should be mixed with distilled water or better yet, bottled water with less impurities... Even a 50/50 coolant will offer you the best of both worlds...

- But it isn't JUST all about the right coolant. No see, coolant is like your car's engine oil: you can leave it and not change it and over time you'd regret it. ALL coolant breaks down over time with constant heat and cold cycles... So to prolong your cooling system it's best to change it every couple years, although here I'd suggest once per year. That way you can be sure that your cooling system won't look too much like a smoker's lungs... Also, make sure and flush the cooling system. Some companies offer s system which cleanses the entire system before you drain it... again very good if you want that sandpaper gritty liquid out of your system.

Wll that's about all I can tell you right about now... I just can't remember what else to tell you; it's like senile is kicking in a 3rd gear pull right about now... but remember:

- Flouride from a lab is better for your teeth and Lady Gaga

- NO flouride and ALL sweets is bad for your teeth period...

- Condoms are better than plastic bags...

- And drinking in front of your mother and in the desert is VERY bad for you...

Or was it that you should change your coolant often, use a good coolant grade?



Bah, I'm going to sleep...I think.

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Re: MISHI's Blog: Keep your cool!!!

Postby wagonrunner » December 2nd, 2011, 2:36 am

you know senile is spelt with an S right?

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Postby MISHI » December 2nd, 2011, 8:33 am

You SEEEE????? same thing I saying... My phone rang this morning and I picked up the AC remote...

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Postby Rudman » December 2nd, 2011, 2:00 pm

This brings us to another question which has been discussed before, but still relevant.....what o what shall i use?

I mean Mitsubishi says use this:
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Shell have this, which according to Dave is very good:
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W2J have this selling in his store for like $300/gal, but will last 7 years in the car (so they say):
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It have plently of this on the market right now, which I am using with no problems so far:
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Decisions, decisions........ :|

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Postby MISHI » December 2nd, 2011, 2:14 pm

Glycoshell is very good... once most coolants meets the specs and you change it often you will be fine.

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Postby rishi_j » December 2nd, 2011, 7:51 pm

Some where i read zerex by valvoline is best suited for japanese vehicles.. could be mistaken

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Re: MISHI's Blog: Keep your cool!!!

Postby MISHI » December 2nd, 2011, 9:19 pm

Once the coolants are within that 30%-60% threshhold it's good. use a good brand and it will work fine. Personally I loved the Castrol concentrate... used to use that in the lancer with bottled water as a mix (yes expensive good water) but I've gotten lazy since and just buy the 50/50

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Postby raybic » December 3rd, 2011, 7:12 pm

used zerex and redline water wetter with some distilled water from my work

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Re: MISHI's Blog: Keep your cool!!!

Postby De Dragon » December 4th, 2011, 11:10 am

MISHI wrote:Once the coolants are within that 30%-60% threshhold it's good. use a good brand and it will work fine. Personally I loved the Castrol concentrate... used to use that in the lancer with bottled water as a mix (yes expensive good water) but I've gotten lazy since and just buy the 50/50

The pH of bottled water is pretty low, so unless your coolant is pH neutral, or slightly alkaline, you could be undoing some of the protection that the coolant is supposed to provide.
I'd seriously take a second look at that mech, I mean HTF could you look at that water pump and say it's ok to leave in?
Corrosion inhibitors work two ways, either they coat the metal with a thin protective film, or they make the water condition difficult for rust to form.

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Postby MISHI » December 4th, 2011, 9:35 pm

compared to the water from the tap I'd think it's a better option.

On the water pump you wouldn't see any damage on the outside; everything looked fine with no leaks... I just wanted it changed cause I had it to change... and when it was removed then the damage was seen. I didn't tell him how long it was there or not...

So no the mech was competent in his work. And though corrosion inhibitors do the job as you stated, I can't say who used what in the history of the car's ownership. It's just not something expected to be seen.

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Postby ecktt » December 5th, 2011, 8:11 pm

While I can't say which one to use, I can say that Prestone has given me zero problems. The pump has never come out but the thermostat has. It looks just like a new one. The only reason it was inspected was, I saw someone else E7 that was rusted till it stuck open. Prestone is less than $60 a gallon and takes about 1 1/2 gallon change out completely, its a cheap peace of mind fix. It should also be said, every time I've change coolant, it came out as clean as it went in.

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Re: MISHI's Blog: Keep your cool!!!

Postby ZeroOne » December 6th, 2011, 1:59 pm

Great write up MISHI

I am guilty of changing coolant at least once per year.

I did some research, read some reviews and this coolant topped all.

I've never used anything else in the past 3 years since I discovered it.

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Honda Type 2 coolant is an ethylene glycol base product for extra long lasting aluminum component protection. Honda coolant has been developed to provide corrosion and rust protection of all cooling system components. Requires no additional corrosion inhibitors. When used as directed in Honda vehicles, this coolant will give complete protection for 5 years or 60,000 miles. No additional water is required. 50/50 Prediluted antifreeze. DO NOT ADD WATER!!

Contains: Water 7732-18-5, Ethylene glycol 107-21-1, Diethylene glycol 111-46-6. Using great than 30 ppm of a bittering agent.

I use this in my CS2

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Re: MISHI's Blog: Keep your cool!!!

Postby Rudman » December 7th, 2011, 8:11 am

^Dear god........the Heresy!........ :|

Probably the only good thing that Honda make.

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Postby Rory Phoulorie » December 9th, 2011, 5:42 pm

I used NP Radol and distilled water in a 50:50 proportion and my radiator lasted 9 years and over 200,000km before it developed a pinhole leak in the core.

NP now has Radol premixed and they even quote the ASTM Standards that the coolant is formulated to meet.

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