Evo VI parts?

[De Dragon]

What's the availability locally and what TME and"normal" Evo VI parts can be interchanged? Thanks

[Sanctifier]

What's the availability locally and what TME and"normal" Evo VI parts can be interchanged? Thanks

availability locally... These are all usable in an E6 or TME. Availability depends on patience and luck.

Engines: E4-E9... Occasionally. (E4 & E9 each need special harness & ECU.)

Gearboxes: E4-E6... Occasionally.

Suspension: E5-E6... Difficult AFAIK.
Slight front differences but E5 parts also usable in an emergency. E6 & TME differences below*.

Body Panels: Doors & Trunk... from any CK Lancer.
Bonnet - Aluminium... same for E6 & TME.... Very rare AFAIK.
E6 TME Air-dam/bumper... AFAIK only fibre-glass copy available locally. PM for details.
Side-skirts... Don't know.

E6 & TME Parts Interchange: (I'll ignore the obvious air-dam/bumper & Interior trim.)

Engines/ECU & Harness: ... Identical.

Turbo: Only E6 TME GSR has smaller, quicker spooling '15K' turbo.
All other turbos are the bigger '16G' for E6 TME RS/RS 2, E6 GSR and E6 RS/RS 2.

AFAIK cams, injectors and other engine parts, except TME exhaust are identical.

Gearboxes: ... Identical. (4.875:1 final drive available as OEM option.)

Suspension: ... Spring height: TME 10 mm lower... Spring rate: TME is higher AFAIK.

Steering: ... Front Cross-member - Lower mounting points for steering-rack in TME and E6 RS / RS 2.

............................ Steering Rack - Mounted lower on cross-member in TME and E6 RS / RS 2.
................................................... E6 GSR & TME GSR... Identical... 2.6 turns "lock-to-lock".
................................................... E6 RS & TME RS........ Identical... 2.2 turns "lock-to-lock".

The RS rack is MAGIC! It's the BEST part of the car IMHO. Getting one (+ RS cross-member) is almost impossible! All other suspension parts ... Identical AFAIK.

AFAIK almost all other mechanical parts are the same; except for optional OEM RS (4.875:1) gear-ratios.
............................................................................................................................... ^ ^ ^ More MAGIC!

My $0.02¢

[Razkal]

Sanctifier, you are ridiculous yes
Good info as always, is the RS and RS2 steering rack the same unit?

In your opinion, what would be the Magic drivetrain parts available across all E6 models to 'swap' onto say a bone stock GSR E6...
-steering rack out an RS/RS2
-RS2 rear lsd (?)
-...?

[hmph]

Sanctifier, good read.

lately though Evos 4-6 are swapping ECUs to Evo 7-8 Ecus so they can flash and tune once the full harness is available.

Razkal, was the plan?

[De Dragon]

Sanctifier, good read.

lately though Evos 4-6 are swapping ECUs to Evo 7-8 Ecus so they can flash and tune once the full harness is available.

Razkal, was the plan?

Sanctifier you really are the man! Thanks!

[venum]

Sanctifier you really are the man! Thanks

Uncle, like these fellas now realize this

he bordering on EVO-god status

[Rudman]

Hmmm......so ah Honda Civic man looking into the avaliability of EVO spares?.....

[hmph]

Hmmm......so ah Honda Civic man looking into the avaliability of EVO spares?.....

he moving up!

[Sanctifier]

Uncle, like these fellas now realize this...

Thanks venum... but fancy formatting doesn't make me any so-called "expert."
No maths in it. I just buy parts over the years...and either learn... or "get burnt".
Then post the little that I find out, plus what I read about. No biggie.

Sanctifier... is the RS and RS2 steering rack the same unit?
In your opinion, what would be the Magic drivetrain parts available across all E6 models to 'swap' onto say a bone stock GSR E6...
-steering rack out an RS/RS2
-RS2 rear lsd (?)
-...?

Razkal, AFAIK ALL E6 quick-ratio steering racks (RS, RS2 and TME RS & RS2) are the same.
BTW they ("2.2") are quicker than later E7-E9 RS racks AFAIK... Please confirm.

EDIT: IMHO MAGIC! means... (in order of importance.)

1) WEIGHT: THIS is the most important advantage for the E5-E6 model IMHO.
When you are at least 250-300 lbs LIGHTER than an E7-E9...
... and almost 800 lbs. LIGHTER than an Evo X MR... the rest is obvious!

2) RS / RS 2 Front Helical LSD... THE most important part to reduce understeer.

3) "2.2" Steering rack & RS cross-member = INSTANT Turn-in... It's just like a new scalpel...
After 3 years of driving the 4wd 1.8 GSR ("2.6"), I almost climbed the left pavement when I first
used E6 RS2 in anger... and then over-corrected... and almost climbed the right pavement too!

4) Optional 4.875 final drive instead of boring (155 mph) 4.53 gearing.
I swapped my original engine AND box for a newer E7 engine and box... BAD DECISION!
The difference was TERRIBLE! The damn car felt like I threw away one whole cylinder.
You'll NEVER hit 155 mph with a 4.875... but THE ACCELERATION!... HOLY SH!T

BTW now you can sacrifice some EXTRA QUICK acceleration for more of everything else...
a) TALLER 18" rims.................... = Better caliper COOLING...
b) WIDER (9.5"-10") FRONT rims = Better "Turn-in" PLUS MORE ADHESION...
c) 1" NARROWER rear rims......... = Easier "rotation" (power oversteer) i.e. 1" less than NEW front rims.
d) Evo X ft. & rr. brake rotors.... = SHORTER stopping distances.
... Same size calipers + larger Evo X rotors = Greater effective radius = BETTER BRAKES!

5) RS LSD: Now it's not "compulsory" to buy "impossible to find" E6 rear LSD. Just install E7-E9 ACD first.
There's a new traction control unit for AYC that gives even more adjustability.... but it's EXPENSIVE!

Try this other idea on for size too. BTW I'm going to try it when $$$ allow...

... lately though Evos 4-6 are swapping ECUs to Evo 7-8 Ecus so they can flash and tune once the full harness is available.

Yup great idea... I bought one a couple years ago. Looking for an E7-E9 transfer case now.

With E7-E9 harness I can modify the front tunnel & swap E6 Viscous Centre Diff for E7-E9 Active Centre Diff.
That way I'll get "Tarmac / Gravel / Snow" front-to-rear torque transfer in my E6.
I'll also get "de-coupled" transfer case operation during "hand-brake turns" too.

Last but not least ADD aftermarket, adjustable traction control to the mix. Now you should have the advantages of E7-E9 ACD with few disadvantages of AYC... plus ADJUSTABLE Traction Control.

Another $0.02¢.

[De Dragon]

Hmmm......so ah Honda Civic man looking into the avaliability of EVO spares?.....

he moving up!

Maybe, once I can get said Civic sold!

[hmph]

De Dragon, cool any decision on which one yet?


Sanctifier, good advice as always......

[De Dragon]

De Dragon, cool any decision on which one yet?


Sanctifier, good advice as always......

I've got EVO VIII or IX taste ..........


































But EVO VI pockets

[obeiron]

^--- go with the VIII mr or the ix. Or, follow Sanctifier and build a VI that will leave the newer cars for dead

[De Dragon]

^--- go with the VIII mr or the ix. Or, follow Sanctifier and build a VI that will leave the newer cars for dead

Re-read my previous post!

[*KRONIK*]

My $0.02¢

Another $0.02¢

so i guess this makes $0.04 rite

[hmph]

De Dragon, the six is a good option, i wanted a six when i bought my car, hell i still want one. but with respect to parts the VIII and IX are available in the states so parts for the VII, VIII and IX are pretty easy to get.

for the six you may have to order from the UK for some parts, Sanctifier will know more about that.

[Sanctifier]

My $0.02¢... Another $0.02¢

so i guess this makes $0.04 rite

Yup!

De Dragon, the six is a good option... but with respect to parts the VIII and IX are available in the states so parts for the VII, VIII and IX are pretty easy to get.

for the six you may have to order from the UK for some parts, Sanctifier will know more about that.

Actually I have always bought parts locally except for the EvoGREEN turbo & kit from USA.

Check Mitsu Main Dealers in UK... CoOrdSport... Xtreme Motors... Colt Cars Mid-West Group... etc. for E6 body and suspension parts if necessary.

4G63 parts and most of the drive-train (gearboxes & diffs etc.) can come from E7-E9... ie. US suppliers.
BUT AFAIK there are water & oil-pump differences between E4-6 and E8-9 block... Can't remember about E7.

Gear-ratios: Stick to front & rear diffs from the SAME model (E4-E9) to retain MATCHED gear-ratios.

Here *KRONIK*... $0.01¢ + $0.01¢ again

[16 cycles]

Hmm...as the years progress, parts for the VI may be harder and harder to get whereas there seems to be a myriad of aftermarket / OEM parts for the CT9a chassis seeing that there were more exports internationally

already started stocking parts for a ct9a already - with all the economics nowadays i'll be waiting approx 1 to 2 years to see what the price will be for the last year of production IX's (2007) IIRC.

If rules aren't changed, last possible year to buy a IX would be 2007?

first step is to get my GDB sold....

[hmph]

16 cycles, yup the IXs stopped in 2007.

Sanctifier, never knew all those VI parts were available locally..

[*KRONIK*]

My $0.02¢... Another $0.02¢

so i guess this makes $0.04 rite

Yup!

Here *KRONIK*... $0.01¢ + $0.01¢ again

so daz $0.04 + $0.01 + 0.01 = $0.06

there i made a very a very significant mathematical contribution to the ched

[Sanctifier]

^ ^ ^

[BulletProof]

Sanctifier, hope you didn't buy that EvoGreen yet...

Have you heard about this?

And on the E7 T-case note, the E9 t-case is supposed to be more desirable and easier to obtain. It's a lot more solid that the E7's (at least that's my Oz mates tell me!)

[hmph]

the Tomei turbo look good, but how good it on pump in comparison the Green or CBRD BBK ?


i checked the threads but no dyno sheets...

is it a direct bolt on like the IX turbo (i know its larger)?

[BulletProof]

the Tomei turbo look good, but how good it on pump in comparison the Green or CBRD BBK ?


i checked the threads but no dyno sheets...

is it a direct bolt on like the IX turbo (i know its larger)?

I made a new thread for it. All the info from Tomei's site.

[Sanctifier]

GREAT info Bullet! Like I posted on that thread...

Can you post it on the MadMen forum on Zorce for comparison please?

Sanctifier, hope you didn't buy that EvoGreen yet... Have you heard about this?

hope you didn't buy that EvoGreen yet... Yup I did... not installed yet though.
Other parts to get first... cams... 8 x rims & tyres... seat... and on... and on... and on!

I've retired the E6 for use on weekends and for Solodex only. For my application, adhesion, gear-ratios,
mid-range torque & throttle response are more important than high WHP.

New Tomei turbo looks very promising. Let's see what it costs and how it spools compared to an EvoGREEN.
(Mine is brand new, so I can always sell it)... BTW I agree with the guy on evom.net...

Somebody's gotta send this thing to FP for a Red conversion and see what that big comp. housing can really do.

Do you know what dyno they used?

Transfer Case:

On the E7 T-case note, the E9 t-case is supposed to be more desirable and easier to obtain. It's a lot more solid that the E7's (at least that's my Oz mates tell me!)

Thanks for the T-case info but a used one from an E9 is almost impossible to get over here.
Can you source a good, used E9 T-case for me at a reasonable price?

My $0.02¢

[16 cycles]

sorry for te off-topic question - didn't want to create a whole other thread...


what does a stock evo 9 dyno at locally?

Well aware of int'l numbers - just wanted to know what it puts out at in our environment/conditions - better yet if anyone has a whp/tq curves ?

[hmph]

sorry for te off-topic question - didn't want to create a whole other thread...


what does a stock evo 9 dyno at locally?

Well aware of int'l numbers - just wanted to know what it puts out at in our environment/conditions - better yet if anyone has a whp/tq curves ?

well all cars are different but i would say somewhere around 240-260whp and mathcing torque. please correct me if i am wrong.

[16 cycles]

well all cars are different

I agree with you here -

the 240awhp to 260awhp sounds abt right -

would be very interesting to compare power adders on this platform vs the GDB on a personal level...

[hmph]

16 cycles, that would be a good comparison to see.

just the power adders or tuned?

[16 cycles]

Add-ons as well as tune for add-ons.

Can make more reliable power that way - in my experience