The Official CS Lancer Thread!

[turbo_beast369]

Any recommendations for de-sludging a 4G18 in a CS3?

scrap, clean and re-build....

or, if you don't want to go through all that and you willing to spend some money, have very very frequent oil changes with a relatively cheap thinner body oil so you flush out the engine as best as possible

[Ted_v2]

Any recommendations for de-sludging a 4G18 in a CS3?

scrap, clean and re-build....

or, if you don't want to go through all that and you willing to spend some money, have very very frequent oil changes with a relatively cheap thinner body oil so you flush out the engine as best as possible

This

I heard from a source that you can use diesel oils. Which has more detergents to clean out the engine. I'm still digging around with the idea

[ronsin1]

venum had a post on this earlier in the thread search for it

I think he used an oil I think it was NP 10W-30 for a couple days then drained and put the oil he would normally use in his engine

[venum]

venum had a post on this earlier in the thread search for it

I think he used an oil I think it was NP 10W-30 for a couple days then drained and put the oil he would normally use in his engine

that was for the L200 diffs, not the engine

if u have sludge it is from bad oils and poor maintenance

i am not an advocate of those miracles in a can

u are correct on the diesel oil having more detergents and will clean out the engine better than any miracle in a can or gas engine oils

use the same viscosity of diesel oil as u would gas oil

and the good diesel oils with soot and egr additives are not cheap

but don't expect any results overnight

you may run 20,000km before u notice any change

it is simpler than a scrap, clean and rebuild, but not nearly as effective

[idlemind]

Full the engine with diesel, let it sit overnight and drain next morning.
Sludge be gone..

[ZeroOne]

^^^^Bwhahahahhaah

and what if he starts the engine with the diesel in it??

[Biggs3ne]

^^^^Bwhahahahhaah

and what if he starts the engine with the diesel in it??

My exact thoughts as well...:|:-o:shock:

[BrotherHood]

Nex ting I wake up next day and forget it ha diesel in dey and start up.


I fraid da one dred..

[ZeroOne]

engine might just blow up no big deal........lol

[idlemind]

Leave a note on the dash..Diesel in engine, do not start.

[mety57]

Leave a note on the dash..Diesel in engine, do not start.

or leave the car jack up so that's 1 less thing to do

[venum]

Full the engine with diesel, let it sit overnight and drain next morning.
Sludge be gone..

after these many years, many fone calls at weird times, the panicked sketel voice on the other end . . . it makes sense why Blackie then in GDI forms was such a trouble case . . .

thread_sketel thought that the D in GDI was was for Diesel

quit f%$king with these fellas . . . they will take you for serious with your sick twisted sense of humour

and for those of u that would take this seriously, how would that clean the oil passages

[idlemind]

ROFL... What makes you think I'm fcukin with them.
It's actually a method of de-sludging.

But if we being serious...

There's a product from NP called Engine Flush.
Drain oil, fill with engine flush.
Remove coil packs, crank engine to get the pistons moving.
DON'T TURN OVER ENGINE.
Drain oil. Use a thiner oil for a 200km, drain and put in new oil.

Other than that, scrape and clean... But who's being serious???

[venum]

There's a product from NP called Engine Flush.

miracle in a can

[box4lancer]

Nex ting I wake up next day and forget it ha diesel in dey and start up.


I fraid da one dred..

wen next u gonna change oil put some tranny fluid in d engine. start up and let circulate it will thin out d oil. den change oil... i've done it b4.

[mety57]

plenty methods

[slick]

Nex ting I wake up next day and forget it ha diesel in dey and start up.


I fraid da one dred..

wen next u gonna change oil put some tranny fluid in d engine. start up and let circulate it will thin out d oil. den change oil... i've done it b4.

Tried that once box4lancer. Didn't really have much of an effect on the sludge.
Right now I'm using this product. Got this "miracle in a can" running for about 3 weeks now. Breaking down the sludge a little so far but it's been going really slow.

[BrotherHood]

You hadda do that infront my eyes yes... ATF SP111 in the engine.

Let's just say I don't believe everything I hear, try to decifer sense from nonsense and......
I am not a lucky fella.

[Biggs3ne]

I ain't trying that sheit!!! I'll stick to changing my oil on time and keep my fingers crossed that it doesn't build up sludge...

[idlemind]

ROFL...
Let me see if I can school these youths

[Biggs3ne]

Got my pen and paper in hand :ugeek::(:)

[idlemind]

Tried and tested from the grandfather himself.
I also did this a couple times on the GDI:

Sanctifier, what engine flush would you recommend? is the auto RX sold locally?
i'm still a little skeptical about the flush, but i've changed oil brands a few times, and i KNOW i might be gathering some sludge.

can you clear up something for me as well: when you say use a cheap "flushing" oil; do you mean after i use the engine flush, put some cheap oil like a gallon of quaker state mineral oil and a regular filter (say purolater)? how long do i run the car with this oil in it? and if i use a cheap mineral oil like the quakerstate or castrol GTX, and i go back to my castrol syntec, wouldn't that defeat the purpose?

i'm a little uncertain about these procedures, would you mind clearing them up?

2nr 8... IMHO sludge causes so much unnecessary wear to the engine that I would
do a chemical flush at least every 2 or 3 oil changes and use "flushing oil" every time first.
what engine flush See what's available and then do a Google for any reviews of it.
is the auto RX sold locally? Don't know. Flush is so seldom used by anyone except marine/
industrial engineers etc. that you'll have to use any decent one that's available.
i KNOW i might be gathering some sludge. You can bet on it. Once an engine is working, sludge forms.
1 gallon gas burnt = 1 gallon of water vapour formed in the combustion chamber.
Now add intake dirt at about 350-600 c.f.m. (cubic feet a minute) because no filter is perfect.
Now mix with carbon deposits etc... IMHO I can't see how there couldn't be sludge formation!

cheap "flushing" oil... There is actually a product called "Flushing Oil."
NP should have in Sea Lots. Check your gas station to order.
It's a very low viscosity oil that's designed to do just that... to "flush" old
oil residue and dirt (sludge) out of the engine and oil-pan.
NEVER START YOUR ENGINE WITH "FLUSHING OIL" IN IT!...
*At most crank for as short as possible once or twice with plug leads disconnected.*
Otherwise you'll burn your bearings very quickly... (As I said before... been there... done that!)

procedures... Follow the "chemical flush" instructions to the letter.
ALWAYS have your engine at normal operating temperature first.
Add "chemical flush" to engine...
Start engine and follow instructions to the letter. The only variation might be to use
"chemical flush" for a minute or two less. ("Damn sure!" better than "Cocksure!")
Stop engine and immediately remove sump plug and old filter...
Drain thoroughly...
Replace sump plug and old filter...
Add "flushing oil"... (at least a gallon...)
...DO NOT START!!!!... (See *...* above.)
Remove sump plug and old filter...
Drain thoroughly...(maybe do this step twice... it's very cheap.)
Maybe if you're very cautious... add a litre of your new oil and drain that first too.
Install new filter and replace sump plug... Add oil to OEM specifications... Don't under/over fill.
Add extra to account for filter volume (fill then drain old filter to learn accurate amount first.)
Now you can start... but allow the engine to warm up again before you "flog" it.

Yup I know... "Picky"...but I paid $20k for my E7 engine. After "add-ons" like cams, exhaust,
ECU, water injection etc. double that! Parts and labour ain't free. What's yours worth to you?
IMHO cleaning the engine properly is a hell of a lot more important than making a huge issue
about whose brand to buy. That decision should be based upon OEM specs and application.

My $0.05c

If you want to read more, check out the full post here:
http://www.zorce.com/zforums/viewtopic.php?t=1578
Uncle Sanct posts alot on info on zorce forums..

[Biggs3ne]

Subscribed!! :ugeek:

[Biggs3ne]

Just finished going through his post....that man real knowledgeable boy...weysss...thanks for the post...will attempt the oil flush when I do my next oil change..not sure if I ever saw any flushing oil from NP though...

Anyone ever did an engine flush?

[slick]

You hadda do that infront my eyes yes... ATF SP111 in the engine.

Let's just say I don't believe everything I hear, try to decifer sense from nonsense and......
I am not a lucky fella.

I used some cheap NP transmission oil when I did it.

[slick]

Just finished going through his post....that man real knowledgeable boy...weysss...thanks for the post...will attempt the oil flush when I do my next oil change..not sure if I ever saw any flushing oil from NP though...

Anyone ever did an engine flush?

Did a couple engine flushes before with Power Max from BlueChem.
Can't say the results were great.

Didn't use the flushing oil though.

[BrotherHood]

My engine works ok. Will stick to frequent oil changes

[Biggs3ne]

My engine works ok. Will stick to frequent oil changes

lol

[mety57]

idle u ain,t easy whats the seppy for tranny flushing

[idlemind]

Nah, Tranny flush different because a drain off will not remove all the oil.
Best you pay to get it done professionally at Automotive Components or somewhere similar.